dylan93

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Leave Vivian alooooooone, your hurting my feeeeelllllliiings, feeeeellllllllings are EVERYTHING. Hutch is a scimbag, all he dose is work to keep Vivian accustomed to the lifestyle she feels entitled too, he's tries to be a good husband and father. Vivian's marriage has her oppressed, being a mother and a wife is oppression, Vivian is just misunderstood, neglected and unfulfilled, leave her alooooone, shes in the process of "FINDING HER SELF". Right soyboy and feminist time for a slutwalk on f95zone if anyone disagrees with us progressively regressive leftiods.

All men are evil
Everything is their fault
Marriage and true connection is oppression
being a good wife is oppression
being a mother is oppression
being a home maker is oppression


We feminist just want to be hoe's
we want to wreck all our relationships and cry victim
we want to sleep with everyone
we want to right to spread STDs, thats true liberation, being a worthless hoe with no value

WTF got into me, i was over taken by 3rd and 4th wave feminism for a moment
 

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You are probably right but I still keep hoping Hutch will become more then... well what he is right now.

The previews show she'll have her back blown a lot so no mystery there.
It's open season now for Vivian. It's just a matter of trying to guess how many different dicks, she is going to get railed by, before the end of the game now...:ROFLMAO: (my bet is on at least 5 btw :unsure: minimum) Token BBC Student, The Mechanic, The Twins, and some other fucking random guy that Christian will probably throw her at, like the prostitute she is. IT'S WHORING TIME BBY!

Hutch is the one who will either save this shit and give us some lovely twists, and juicey drama! :love: Or he will remain a giant pussy. And we're now just going to be watching Vivian become an even bigger whore that she already is. (y)

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You are probably right but I still keep hoping Hutch will become more then... well what he is right now.
He gets a whole chapter himself. I bet there is much we don't know about him at this point.
The previews show she'll have her back blown a lot so no mystery there.
The previews show a lot of things. Like Husband and Wife at a garden party (or some such) holding hands. It is not clear at this point what that all means.
In the course of history certain type of women always have dropped their panties for men with status and power. Nothing really changed. Now because of technology those men have easier access to those women and also a harder time to get rid of them.
For sure. Does Wife act like that type of woman in the first part of the game? Does she show a tendency to be a bimbo at all? Or is she the competent, intelligent, problem solver? Would she have gone to Sunshine and wondered what is going on with herself? Would she still be married to Husband at this point?
 

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Does Wife act like that type of woman in the first part of the game?
Yes
Does she show a tendency to be a bimbo at all?
Yes
Or is she the competent, intelligent, problem solver?
Hell No!
Would she have gone to Sunshine and wondered what is going on with herself?
How should I know?
Would she still be married to Husband at this point?
He's her safety net. She is well aware that Christian will dump her at some point. Take into consideration that she is 45. A divorce would be a disaster for her. Also losing Hutch would make her less interesting to Christian.
 
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Yes

Yes

Hell No!
So she is not the one who came up with a plan that Husband should present to Boss to save his job? And she did not take it upon herself to go to Boss and speak for her family?
How should I know?
Because you know that if she knew herself to be a panty dropper, she would not be wondering why she is suddenly doing that at age 45.
He's her safety net. She is well aware that Christian will dump her at some point. Take into consideration that she is 45. A divorce would be a disaster for her.
If she had a history of bimboing herself out to powerful men, the problem of a safety net would have long ago been solved. Some powerful guy would be her safety net at this point. There is the bimbo and the guy who wants a trophy wife. Made in heaven for each other.
 
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So she is not the one who came up with the idea of how to present a plan to Boss to save Husband's job.? And she did not take it upon herself to go to Boss and speak for her family?
First of all she went behind the back of her husband what really is disrespectful towards him. Turns out his job never was in real danger. (but that could be manipulative talk)
I also have never seen a porn game where the wife drops her panties that quick.

Because you are a reasonable person and you know that if she knew herself to be a panty dropper, she would not be wondering why she is suddenly doing that at age 45.
Everyone is wondering why she does it now. What I think is that she is insecure because the sex life with Hutch isn't good. Part of it is her own fault by not giving the things he asks while not being against it with total strangers.
She went to pick up a guy and ended up getting the attention of a girl. That is probably not so good for her self esteem either.

If she had a history of bimboing herself out to powerful men, the problem of a safety net would have long ago been solved. Some powerful guy would be her safety net at this point. There is the bimbo and the guy who wants a trophy wife. Made in heaven for each other.
Maybe she never found one. The problem with successful men is that they rarely commit. They have 2 much options.
She had an active sex life before meeting Hutch. It's not like she didn't try.
 
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First of all she went behind the back of her husband what really is disrespectful towards him.
You think this quibble is more important than whether the plan was hers? And that she saw a need for her to speak up and so she took that initiative. Very unbimbo like I would say.
Turns out his job never was in real danger. (but that could be manipulative talk)
As it certainly is.
I also have never seen a porn game where the wife drops her panties that quick.
Or to the extent of doing it 7 times in one night all in the presence of her husband. Is the light dawning that this is not the typical situation? SC has something in mind in showing us exactly this? I mean other than giving us our typical jolly porn.
Everyone is wondering why she does it now. What I think is that she is insecure because the sex life with Hutch isn't good. Part of it is her own fault by not giving the things he asks while not being against it with total strangers.
She went to pick up a guy and ended up getting the attention of a girl. That is probably not so good for her self esteem either.
I don't think the wondering why she is suddenly dropping her panties at age 45 counts as part of a postulated insecurity. I think she has good reason to wonder that. And if it is insecurity, why suddenly at age 45 does it manifest? Why not at 35? Or 25?
Maybe she never found one. The problem with successful men is that they rarely commit. They have 2 much options.
She had an active sex life before meeting Hutch. It's not like she didn't try.
Being married to Husband would have not have had a dampening effect on her bimboing if she were inclined. Oh, yes, such guys do definitely want trophy wives sometimes. She has had plenty of time to find one if that was her thing. I'd say that the image we are given of her early active sex life is provisional and not particularly uncommon for young women since the 60's or so. Active does not imply she was bimboing herself out. I particularly don't see evidence of that earlier than this deal with Boss.
 
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You think this quibble is more important than whether the plan was hers? And that she saw a need for her to speak up and so she took that initiative. Very unbimbo like I would say.
Yes! The fact alone that she would try to meddle with my work would be reason enough for me to file a divorce. That is not acceptable at all but that is just me.

I don't think the wondering why she is suddenly dropping her panties at age 45 counts as part of a postulated insecurity. I think she has good reason to wonder that. And if it is insecurity, why suddenly at age 45 does it manifest? Why not at 35? Or 25?
I'm 46 now. When I was younger I didn't mind women that were a little older. Now I hardly see beautiful women my age. The insecurity at a certain age is not only real but also funded. She just met a guy that swept her of her feet at that age. Try to test if it would be the same with others and ended up with a guy laughing with her and the attention of a girl.
 

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Yes! The fact alone that she would try to meddle with my work would be reason enough for me to file a divorce. That is not acceptable at all but that is just me.
Maybe so. You might think her intrusion was damnable. But you probably would not think her a bimbo because of that. In Wife's case, I think she made an accurate assessment of the situation and took appropriate action. Smart lady.
I'm 46 now. When I was younger I didn't mind women that were a little older. Now I hardly see beautiful women my age. The insecurity at a certain age is not only real but also funded. She just met a guy that swept her of her feet at that age. Try to test if it would be the same with others and ended up with a guy laughing with her and the attention of a girl.
I don't hear her saying that to Sunshine. I hear her opening up about herself and wondering what is going on. Which I think is entirely appropriate for her. Yes, ask those questions, especially if you find somebody who can listen well and give good advice.

He didn't really sweep her off her feet. He simply stood in front of her and her knees buckled. So much of what goes on in this game is strange in both rw and porn context. And people seem to not notice. Strange again.
 
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What if a middle aged man cheats on his wife for a better younger girl and starts fantasying about all the young tight pussies over her wife? I wish there was a game about this fictional idea...wait it's not a fiction but reality.

I'm not justifying Vivian but the people on this thread is going crazy over a fictional character and her choices at such level that drawing resemblance over real life generations, I mean bro chill, it's just a game.
I think it's a testament to the quality of the game, that it hits so hard. That's good story telling matched with emotionally laden scenes. As easy as it is to lambast the characters, they really impact us the audience because we can picture ourselves in the roles and experiencing these situations. Hits like an RPG, like it or not...
 
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First of all she went behind the back of her husband what really is disrespectful towards him. Turns out his job never was in real danger. (but that could be manipulative talk)
I also have never seen a porn game where the wife drops her panties that quick.
I am glad you also see that it is very possible that Christian was lying when he said that Hutch's job was never in danger, and that Christian saying that might be another manipulation. I was thinking the same thing. I think he told her Hutch's job was never in danger as a way of making her feel even more guilty about what she did because Vivian's guilt is one of the ways he manipulates her. Hutch wasn't the only person who thought Christian was going to fire him. One of his coworkers thought the same thing because he knew how Christian was.

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Christian telling her this obviously made her feel worse about her betrayals.

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It is POSSIBLE that Christian wasn't lying, but given his tendency to lie, and how much he enjoys playing mind games with people, it is equally likely that he was lying about it. Addison did not think Hutch was going to be fired, and she said it was because he was a great salesman, but she may have said that because she likes Hutch (Christian did not seem to think Hutch was a great salesman). In the above conversation with Vivian, he talks about how Hutch isn't good with people. Contrary to what Christian said about needing Hutch, numbers guys like Hutch are very replaceable, especially considering the kind of money it is implied that Hutch was making. For a guy like Christian, getting to play games with people like Vivian and Hutch could be enough incentive to keep Hutch on board. As the owner of the company Christian is probably rich, and sometimes rich guys like him get bored, and playing these kind of games is one of the ways they get over their boredom.

Vivian's continued betrayals don't mean that she doesn't feel guilty. She either doesn't feel guilty enough to change her behavior, or she doesn't channel her guilt into changing her behavior. Her guilt makes her want to be punished, and Christian uses this to get her to accept humiliation and degradation. I am going to do a separate post on Vivian's guilt, and how it is used to motivate her as a character (Guilt isn't her only motivator, but it is an important one). I did a similar post already, but I am going to do another one because I think some people believe she feels no guilt over what she is doing, but her feelings of guilt are important to the story, and add to the drama. She may be loosing her feelings of guilt, and chapter 3 could let us know if that is the direction she is going, but her guilt has up to this point been important to the story. Torment is a good way to describe this story.
 

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What if a middle aged man cheats on his wife for a better younger girl and starts fantasying about all the young tight pussies over her wife? I wish there was a game about this fictional idea...wait it's not a fiction but reality.
Acceptable behavior for a man, not for a woman. Even admitting that does not stop people from damning Wife.
I'm not justifying Vivian but the people on this thread is going crazy over a fictional character and her choices at such level that drawing resemblance over real life generations, I mean bro chill, it's just a game.
How many times have I said that? It has not made a bit of difference. People continue to reify the game. Ok, we can talk at that level. The game can be understood at that level too.
I am glad you also see that it is very possible that Christian was lying when he said that Hutch's job was never in danger, and that Christian saying that might be another manipulation. I was thinking the same thing. I think he told her Hutch's job was never in danger as a way of making her feel even more guilty
I think Boss says that and similar to answer her accusing him of being an asshole. He wants her to think it was all her choosing, he was simply a handy way for her to get an orgasm. She chose because she could always have said no. Except that according to the understanding of the situations that he gave her, it really was not possible for her to make that choice. Yes, Wife, he is still an asshole. Worse than that as you are finding out.
about what she did because Vivian's guilt is one of the ways he manipulates her. Hutch wasn't the only person who thought Christian was going to fire him. One of his coworkers thought the same thing because he knew how Christian was.
I think Sunshine has helped Wife resolve her guilt. It is not as big an issue for her as it was.
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It is POSSIBLE that Christian wasn't lying, but given his tendency to lie, and how much he enjoys playing mind games with people, it is equally likely that he was lying about it. Addison did not think Hutch was going to be fired, and she said it was because he was a great salesman, but she may have said that because she likes Hutch (Christian did not seem to think Hutch was a great salesman). In the above conversation with Vivian, he talks about how Hutch isn't good with people. Contrary to what Christian said about needing Hutch, numbers guys like Hutch are very replaceable, especially considering the kind of money it is implied that Hutch was making. For a guy like Christian, getting to play games with people like Vivian and Hutch could be enough incentive to keep Hutch on board. As the owner of the company Christian is probably rich, and sometimes rich guys like him get bored, and playing these kind of games is one of the ways they get over their boredom.

Vivian's continued betrayals don't mean that she doesn't feel guilty. She either doesn't feel guilty enough to change her behavior, or she doesn't channel her guilt into changing her behavior.
If she does change, it won't be guilt that does it. It will be realizing exactly what kind of person Boss actually is, and that she cannot trust him for anything. Especially she cannot trust him to honor her demands at the end of chapter 2. If she allows it, Boss will have her breaking her promise to Husband that she will always come home at the end of the day, and he will be whoring her out to whomever he pleases. The tension in the game climaxes when we learn whether she accepts all that or not.
Her guilt makes her want to be punished, and Christian uses this to get her to accept humiliation and degradation.
Realizes that is what Boss has in store for her. Realize it, and then accept it or not. As women sometimes do, Wife imagines that for her, the monster will behave and treat her well, because she has paradise between her legs. It is so hard to let that fantasy go, but eventually all who believe it must.
I am going to do a separate post on Vivian's guilt, and how it is used to motivate her as a character (Guilt isn't her only motivator, but it is an important one). I did a similar post already, but I am going to do another one because I think some people believe she feels no guilt over what she is doing, but her feelings of guilt are important to the story, and add to the drama. She may be loosing her feelings of guilt, and chapter 3 could let us know if that is the direction she is going, but her guilt has up to this point been important to the story. Torment is a good way to describe this story.
Another good discussion from you DA, thanks.
 
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dylan93

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What if a middle aged man cheats on his wife for a better younger girl and starts fantasying about all the young tight pussies over her wife? I wish there was a game about this fictional idea...wait it's not a fiction but reality.

I'm not justifying Vivian but the people on this thread is going crazy over a fictional character and her choices at such level that drawing resemblance over real life generations, I mean bro chill, it's just a game.
Your right to an extent, it is just a game but the way it has been written especially around the characters of Vivian and Christian smacks of a visual commentary from the creator about the current state of dating and the toxic degenerate attitude of modern-day OF/ Instagram women towards their boyfriends relationships, marriages and husbands.

Hutch- represents the weakest ass, believe all womnen because they are women, liberal educated, soy-slurping far-left feminist. He's too nice, too good, tried to be the leader within the marriage and failed, tried to be a good provider, it wasn't enough, tried to be a good husband, lover and father and still his wife rejected him but easily gave it up to complete strangers for money

Christian- represents that element of the one percent of toxic high status Chad's on social media that are hovering up all the women, correct myself, hovering up all the entitled modern day gold-digging STD ridden 3rd and 4th wave feminist slags of OF and Instagram.

Vivian- is the ultimate example of a 3rd and 4th wave feminist hoe, flash cash and status at her and she'll burn her entire world down just to be seen as one of your options, all while looking over your shoulder for the next best thing, as she cries victim when she gets what she deserves.
 
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Your right to an extent, it is just a game but the way it has been written especially around the characters of Vivian and Christian smacks of a visual commentary from the creator about the current state of dating and the toxic degenerate attitude of modern-day OF/ Instagram women towards their boyfriends relationships, marriages and husbands.

Hutch- represents the weakest ass, believe all womnen because they are women, liberal educated, soy-slurping far-left feminist. He's too nice, too good, tried to be the leader within the marriage and failed, tried to be a good provider, it wasn't enough, tried to be a good husband, lover and father and still his wife rejected him but easily gave it up to complete strangers for money

Christian- represents that element of the one percent of toxic high status Chad's on social media that are hovering up all the women, correct myself, hovering up all the entitled modern day gold-digging STD ridden 3rd and 4th wave feminist slags of OF and Instagram.

Vivian- is the ultimate example of a 3rd and 4th wave feminist hoe, flash cash and status at her and she'll burn her entire world down just to be seen as one of your options, all while looking over your shoulder for the next best thing, as she cries victim when she gets what she deserves.
Understood. This is all about politics for you.
 

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Acceptable behavior for a man, not for a woman. Even admitting that does not stop people from damning Wife.
Wow. Straight justifying cheating just cuz its man. So Tate's left testicle please explain why its "Accaptable behavior"

I don't give a shift about feminism or patriarchy but atleast expect rational thinking from a person. Its true that common sense itself is a blessing not given to everyone
 

noahsombrero

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Wow. Straight justifying cheating just cuz its man. So Tate's left testicle please explain why its "Accaptable behavior"

I don't give a shift about feminism or patriarchy but atleast expect rational thinking from a person. Its true that common sense itself is a blessing not given to everyone
I certainly did not say it was ok for men. I said that in popular understanding it is ok for men, but not for women. With a nod and a wink and a chuckle for men of course. Some here in pornland actually come to see stud, stallion type behavior especially in harem games. I think that, if it is ok for men to act like that in porn games, at least here it should be ok for women.

But for me, harem games don't scratch my itch. I admit that Grandma's House was well done enough for me to play a while, but it has simply become too much too much. On the other hand Desert Stalker is both a harem incest game that is well done enough to be interesting without overwhelming me. Even though not much is made of it, I would expect that it would be ok for Stalker's Wife, kids, Queen and desert dweller lovers to have lovers besides him. I say this should be fair enough in the pornworld context. I make no claim that any of it would be ok irl.

I come here because I like to see naked people fuck each other, and I am not too concerned about who is cheating or not. I like the video game kind of porn because living models are not used, nobody is harmed, nobody is exploited, I get my jollies and all remains well with the world, at least as well as it was before my intervention.
 
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