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I thought I had responded in detail to your post criticizing the way I write my posts publicly in the thread, but apparently someone deleted it...
That's ok. I saw it. Only a moderator could delete your post, or you can delete your own. My opinion is that it is best to accept the verdict of moderators.
 
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That's ok. I saw it. Only a moderator could delete your post. My opinion is that it is best to accept the verdict of moderators.
Sure, but I hope they don't delete it again, especially since I responded to some of your nonsensical comments about my writing style.
I didn't know it was the moderators, or rather... it could have been someone who reported my post to the moderators, so I edited the post... and your post was still there so... I replay to you in a more polite way
I have the right to respond, since you were talking to me directly, completely ignoring the game.

Thanks to be interested in me

PS; Just for the record, I have a copy of all the most important posts I write in the threads of my favorite games... and that post was written with a little too much “enthusiasm”... I wasn't writing IMO ;)
They did the right thing in removing it. Now I think it's fair and helps to understand better the story avoiding confusion and helping better to clarify my point of view.
 
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Sure, but I hope they don't delete it again, especially since I responded to some of your nonsensical comments about my writing style.
I didn't know it was the moderators, or rather... it could have been someone who reported my post to the moderators, so I edited the post... and your post was still there so... I replay to you in a more polite way
I hope you are right. Otherwise I can tell you that the moderator will remove it again. Best not to try a third time. Even I have never gone that far. Be nice to moderators, they are only trying to keep us from metaphorically shooting each other.
 
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Well, maybe I take it down again in order not to further feed off topic debates. It's just that there are two things I really can't stand: 1. censorship of all kinds 2. good vs evil rhetoric. Both destroy debates.
Totally agree with you... but in that case my replay is not off topic ... if moderators would like to avoid flame they would have to delete also his post...... I do not hate him... I hate when he says that do not understand why using facial expressions in the game after the dev wrote a specific note in the OP.... anyway I maybe will delete too this... in my opinion moderators are doing a great job here
I just tried to reconstruct the debate.... do not censorship yourself
 
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Well, maybe I take it down again in order not to further feed off topic debates. It's just that there are two things I really can't stand: 1. censorship of all kinds 2. good vs evil rhetoric. Both destroy debates.
Your first thing conflicts with your second. It sounds like either you can stand censorship of some kind or you are willing to censor g/e rhetoric.

As usual though the devil is in the definitions.

You might think Wife is an evil whore who deserves to be punished. If somebody objects to that are they indulging in g/e rhetoric or are you?

Not that you think such things of Wife. That was a for instance.
 
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Your first thing conflicts with your second. It sounds like either you can stand censorship of some kind or you are willing to censor g/e rhetoric.

As usual though the devil is in the definitions.

You might think Wife is an evil whore who deserves to be punished. If somebody objects to that are they indulging in g/e rhetoric or are you?

Not that you think such things of Wife. That was a for instance.
On the contrary: the first thing, censorship, gets nowadays mostly justified by the second: to erase alleged "hate speech". And with good vs evil rhetoric I'm exactly not meaning the labels people put on the characters of the story (and, indeed, people calling her whore don't usually call her evil in your sense. But even a moral judgment is not hate, it's something different). I thereby mean dividing the posters here in the forum and their opinions in good and evil, in haters and defenders. I have seen nobody in this entire thread doing this except you. You are talking about "groups". Nobody here is part of a group, all have at least slightly different opinions. For example I am not interested in the husband's revenge storywise, but I agree with people harshly criticising the wife - and of those people many want to see that revenge. And punishment? Yes, maybe for the sake of the story (i.e. an additional sex scene), but mainly for her stupidity not her immorality and not in the sense of a triumph of the good over evil.
 
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On the contrary: the first thing, censorship, gets nowadays mostly justified by the second: to erase alleged "hate speech". And with good vs evil rhetoric I'm exactly not meaning the labels people put on the characters of the story (and, indeed, people calling her whore don't usually call her evil in your sense. But even a moral judgment is not hate, it's something different). I thereby mean dividing the posters here in the forum and their opinions in good and evil, in haters and defenders. I have seen nobody in this entire thread doing this except you. You are talking about "groups". Nobody here is part of a group, all have at least slightly different opinions. For example I am not interested in the husband's revenge storywise, but I agree with people harshly criticising the wife - and of those people many want to see that revenge. And punishment? Yes, maybe for the sake of the story (i.e. an additional sex scene), but mainly for her stupidity not her immorality and not in the sense of a triumph of the good over evil.
Thanks for your thoughtful response.

calling her whore don't usually call her evil in your sense.
I'm not sure what my sense is, but could this be a distinction without a difference?
But even a moral judgment is not hate
But it can imply that depending on the judgment. My feeling is that none of us are qualified to pass judgments.
haters and defenders
So you think that regardless of accusations made, no one should rise to the defense. No one should say, for instance, that we are none of us qualified to pass judgment?
I have seen nobody in this entire thread doing this except you. You are talking about "groups". Nobody here is part of a group, all have at least slightly different opinions. For example I am not interested in the husband's revenge storywise, but I agree with people harshly criticising the wife - and of those people many want to see that revenge. And punishment? Yes, maybe for the sake of the story (i.e. an additional sex scene), but mainly for her stupidity not her immorality and not in the sense of a triumph of the good over evil.
Of course, haters reject that label, would not call themselves that. I find it useful to be able to clearly say what I am against and who shows those behaviors, shaded by individual differences as they are. There is a bunch of folks here who have very negative opinions in one way or another of Wife. It is useful, I think, to speak to that group as a whole. But I did not use hater in the post you are replying to. Have not used it for a while; agreed that it is inflammatory language.

So revenge/punishment for stupidity is ok with you?

I would agree that stupidity is a great flaw in mankind. For instance, if you realize that half the population is iq 100 or below, you get an idea of how pervasive the problem is; 100 iq is not very smart. But, regardless, I can't imagine punishing people for their lack of intelligence. That is like punishing them for having red hair or blue eyes. Like those, intelligence is genetic. Maybe you mean something other than stupidity. SC says Wife has a masters degree. I think that is not very stupid as stupid goes at least in terms of how SC sees her. But something in her behavior sets you off. Naivete? Another form of stupidity reflecting lack of experience. I think when you put a name on it, antagonism towards that behavior becomes a lot harder to defend.

I am entertaining your perspective for the sake of argument. I disagree with all of it, as I have been saying for quite a while. Some people even feel infuriated by my "stupidity" or whatever label they want to use, and even refuse to hear another word of it. I think you know what I think about Wife, so I won't repeat it again now.

I do think that how SC sees Wife is an important perception that many miss, there are a number of clues to that in the story.
 
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Your first thing conflicts with your second. It sounds like either you can stand censorship of some kind or you are willing to censor g/e rhetoric.

As usual though the devil is in the definitions.

You might think Wife is an evil whore who deserves to be punished. If somebody objects to that are they indulging in g/e rhetoric or are you?

Not that you think such things of Wife. That was a for instance.
Are you really argue on an OFF TOPIC .
 

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You guys need to let it be. Everybody has an opinion. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE it will not change the opinion. Do not argue the point to where it pisses off the rest of us. WHICH IT HAS ! Get a grip. I think the Dev would read this and get pissed off also. This is not what he intended, this type of discussion.... most of which is personnel and not directly related to the game.
 

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Peace must be found... we are all friends and different opinions must be the way to help us to grow...
Who is not able to accept the different opinions will remain stuck in his poor world full of ignorance and preconceptions forever... and this is a very sad thing for me
 
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I'm not finished with the first chapter yet and I searched but I didn't see anything related to my question in the search so I'll just ask, sorry if I missed something already answered.

Is it possible to make the auto advance optional? If so, would it be difficult to do? I ask because it's an interesting idea but sometimes I just wanna click but if I do that and it skips an auto section then something could be missed. If it's not possible or more trouble than it's worth then no worries, it's still a fantastic effort so far and I'll still follow it through to the end. I just figure there's no harm in asking.
 

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I'm not finished with the first chapter yet and I searched but I didn't see anything related to my question in the search so I'll just ask, sorry if I missed something already answered.

Is it possible to make the auto advance optional? If so, would it be difficult to do? I ask because it's an interesting idea but sometimes I just wanna click but if I do that and it skips an auto section then something could be missed. If it's not possible or more trouble than it's worth then no worries, it's still a fantastic effort so far and I'll still follow it through to the end. I just figure there's no harm in asking.
Not in the game options. You'd have to do it by editing the .rpy files, if you know what you're doing with the coding.
 

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Not in the game options. You'd have to do it by editing the .rpy files, if you know what you're doing with the coding.
I do not and I don't wanna fuck anything up by trying, so I'll just leave it alone and be grateful for what's been done so far. Thanks!
 

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Is it possible to make the auto advance optional? If so, would it be difficult to do? I ask because it's an interesting idea but sometimes I just wanna click but if I do that and it skips an auto section then something could be missed.
The auto-advance is programmed by the author with different times; in fact, some expressions last only a moment, while others last longer.
This is a positive aspect and is done precisely so that everyone understands that it is not a game written with porn-logic
It is a cinematographic script. In cinema world, these are called camera movements.
Just pay attention to what happens on the screen. Screenshot 2025-08-19 at 14.13.30.jpg Screenshot 2025-08-19 at 14.13.52.jpg Notice Hutch's expression as Vivian explains what appears at the bottom left, “auto advance,” touching Christian's crotch with her finger as if she wants to say which of the two has the best cock for her. :cool: Screenshot 2025-08-19 at 14.14.21.jpg Screenshot 2025-08-19 at 14.14.41.jpg Screenshot 2025-08-19 at 14.15.03.jpg
This game is coded as Movie!!!!
Also the full Intro is masterpiece and it helps to understand that Vivian is an actress directed by SC Stories... He is a really professional screenwriter and director.
And the soundtrack... WOW is absolutely perfect!!
Look at that... LOOK AT THE EXPRESSION OF THE ACTORS :love:
To try to help you understand better... It's like going to the cinema to see a masterpiece by Francis Ford Coppola
I am very sad that he died a few weeks ago, but when an artist dies, it's as if one of the best parts of humanity dies with him.
I have great respect for everyone's life, but... we should at least observe a minute's silence when a great film maker dies...

But let me finish my sentence
It's like if you go to the cinema to see a film and ask the projectionist to skip the scenes so you can see the sex scenes and jerk off...
If you think that way...
well, your mind lives in the porn logic :cool:

THERE IS NO PORN LOGIC IN THE SCRIPT

There are sex scenes like in all movies at cinema except that in the cinema, you have to imagine the sex scene and the wife's betrayal... because you'll see the dinner at the restaurant and then you'll see the wife kissing Christian... then the door closes ...or you see them having sex but you see them doing it under the sheets. If you are lucky you'll see an instant of her stunning tits, and ass--- but later the wife will be in the shower after she's had sex.

Here we are fortunate enough to be able to watch the real story of these three characters, with the privilege of seeing them even when they are having sex... but the story tells of something that could very well happen to my neighbor, a teacher who drives a 400 horsepower German car... None of us can see what that teacher does when she closes her front door or what she does after dinner at a restaurant with a man who is not her husband...

Hope this help
 
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The auto-advance is programmed by the author with different times; in fact, some expressions last only a moment, while others last longer.
This is a positive aspect and is done precisely so that everyone understands that it is not a game written with porn-logic
It is a cinematographic script. In cinema world, these are called camera movements.
Just pay attention to what happens on the screen. View attachment 5162597 View attachment 5162598 View attachment 5162599 View attachment 5162600 View attachment 5162603
This game is coded as Movie!!!!
Also the full Intro is masterpiece and it helps to understand that Vivian is an actress directed by SC Stories... He is a really professional screenwriter and director.
And the soundtrack... WOW is absolutely perfect!!
Look at that... LOOK AT THE EXPRESSION OF THE ACTORS :love:
To try to help you understand better... It's like going to the cinema to see a masterpiece by Francis Ford Coppola
I am very sad that he died a few weeks ago, but when an artist dies, it's as if one of the best parts of humanity dies with him.
I have great respect for everyone's life, but... we should at least observe a minute's silence when a great film maker dies...

But let me finish my sentence
It's like if you go to the cinema to see a film and ask the projectionist to skip the scenes so you can see the sex scenes and jerk off...
If you think that way...
well, your mind lives in the porn logic :cool:

THERE IS NO PORN LOGIC IN THE SCRIPT

There are sex scenes like in all movies at cinema except that in the cinema, you have to imagine the sex scene and the wife's betrayal... because you'll see the dinner at the restaurant and then you'll see the wife kissing Christian... then the door closes ...or you see them having sex but you see them doing it under the sheets. If you are lucky you'll see an instant of her stunning tits, and ass--- but later the wife will be in the shower after she's had sex.

Here we are fortunate enough to be able to watch the real story of these three characters, with the privilege of seeing them even when they are having sex... but the story tells of something that could very well happen to my neighbor, a teacher who drives a 400 horsepower German car... None of us can see what that teacher does when she closes her front door or what she does after dinner at a restaurant with a man who is not her husband...

Hope this help
I'd like to preface this response by saying thank you for the incredibly detailed and well presented explanation.

That said, I understood what was going on and how it works, I was just asking if there was a way to make it optional. Sometimes I like porn logic, sometimes I don't. I'm just going to continue appreciating the fantastic effort that's been done so far. There's nothing wrong with it, imo, I was just curious. I'd throw money at their crowd funding if I had any to spare, and I don't do that lightly.
 
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