VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[noahsombrero]

He doesn't look like he is in a stupor he looks disinterested, like he doesn't want to be there.

Yes, perhaps that too. If that is true, he doesn't need to drink an entire bottle of wine or whatever.

 

[Guszti242]

Az SC Stori meg akarja mutatni nekünk, hogyan tehet tönkre egy kapcsolatot egy harmadik fél. És hogyan viselkednek a párok ilyen helyzetekben. Nincs itt alfahím, ahogy sokan mondták ebben a kinetikus regényben, csak egy gondoskodó családapa, aki felnevelte gyermekeit és eltartotta feleségét, valamint egy erőszakos féregember.
Még Christian sem alfahím, mert csak zsarolással és erőszakkal tud nőket szerezni, és az ilyen típusú férfi nem alfahím.
Tudom, hogy Vivien bármikor visszamehetne Hutchhoz, és újra összeházasodhatnának, de Vivien tudja, mit tett Hutchcsal, ezért nehéz neki Hutch szemébe néznie a bűntudat és az árulás miatt.

 

[TonyMurray]

Where is this scene from? I dont remember it

It's a preview that we haven't seen in the game yet. Dev said the remaining previews we've not yet seen in the game are all from Ch3. The two stripclub previews were noted as being "rough, unprocesses renders" so when they appear in game, they may look a bit different. I collected these previews together in a post here.

Nem biztos, hogy ez a rúdtáncos jelenet a 3. részben lesz. Lehet, hogy a 4-5. fejezetben. SC Stori már megosztotta ezt a képet az 1. fejezet végén, és a 2. fejezetben nem volt benne. Szerintem ez a jelenet az 5. fejezetben lesz, amikor Hutch beszélget valakivel a bárban, és várja, hogy rá kerüljön a sor, vagy akár egy randi is lehet. A 3. fejezet végén vagy Hutch hagyja el Vivient, vagy Vivien hagyja el Hutchot Christian miatt, és Vivien Christianhoz költözik, de csak rövid időre, mert Christian elhagyja egy másik párért. És így lett Vivien rúdtáncos és prostituált, nincs más választása, mint túlélni. Nem mehet vissza Hutchhoz, a válás folyamatban van, de a válás még nem végleges. A képen Hutch nem úgy néz ki, mintha halkan hallgatna, hanem inkább úgy, mintha érdeklődve figyelne valakit, miközben iszik. Hutch még nem vette észre Vivient, mert háttal ül neki, de Vivien észrevette őt, és reménykedő arccal néz Hutchra. A kérdés csak az, hogy találkoznak-e a bárban és kibékülnek-e vagy sem.

This is an English-speaking forum. Forum rules ask you to either post in English or provide a translation in your post please.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Here is the SC quote which says pretty much what I was saying, especially about audience engagement and empathy:

Is there a main character and who is it? Vivian the center of the story for sure. Everything essentially revolves around her and creates the scenarios the others respond to. But I don't thinks she's really all that interesting, to be honest. Her motivates, while leading to sexy adventures, are not that complicated. To say that Hutch is more interesting (but maybe not the main character), might be a better way to describe him. Vivian gets her inner monologue as a short cut. Some things are to complicated to express in still renders or would require more extensive blocks of dialogue that would turn off the viewer. While I don't 'identify myself as the main male protagonist' in these games, as a guy I still empathize with them. I guess my goal is to have the viewer (nearly all men) to have some connection to him. I don't want to give him an inner monologue because I hope that the reader will do that for themselves. To deduce his mindset from his actions/reactions. Or to just let it be a mystery.

Also:
What I find annoying is people taking their intepretation of a story from what a character says within the story in one particular conversation in a specific context. Of course Vivian is going to justify her own actions in the Sunshine episolde for herself and for Sunshine. Like people in real life. Do you believe what a cheater says about his her motives in real life? That's the problem if you speak of a character "journey" which you are glad to hop on in the moment and you don't need to know more: you just take her word for it. That's not what I do. You already have two totally contradicting "reasons" if you are quoting "doing the wrong thing for the right reasons" which implies she wants to rescue her husband and then also take the Sunshine conversation where she says she does it because of herself.

 

[Adhdclassic]

On a serious note am I the only one that looks at Vivian and wants to call her Karen.

 

[noahsombrero]

Here is the SC quote which says pretty much what I was saying, especially about audience engagement and empathy:



Also:
What I find annoying is people taking their intepretation of a story from what a character says within the story in one particular conversation in a specific context. Of course Vivian is going to justify her own actions in the Sunshine episolde for herself and for Sunshine. Like people in real life. Do you believe what a cheater says about his her motives in real life? That's the problem if you speak of a character "journey" which you are glad to hop on in the moment and you don't need to know more: you just take her word for it. That's not what I do. You already have two totally contradicting "reasons" if you are quoting "doing the wrong thing for the right reasons" which implies she wants to rescue her husband and then also take the Sunshine conversation where she says she does it because of herself.

Of course not a particular conversation in a particular event. The same for not a particular pic in a particular event. Take the whole story as we have it now. Every part of it matters. Not the one part that tells you that Wife is simply a silly minded cheater for instance.

How is it that Wife has suddenly become a shallow devious cheater? She hasn't, she isn't. She seems to have no clue about the kind of person that Boss is even though he has told her. Do I believe what a troubled person says to a person who has shown some understanding and willingness to listen, that the troubled person comes clean with that person? Yes, that is what a rl person would do.

I also hear what Wife tells Sunshine as she leaves the next morning about how she must break up with Boss. Things cannot go on like this. Is she still trying to impress Sunshine? No, she has no reason to do that. I think, at that moment, she means it. This is a symptom of her inner confusion. She is unable to reconcile her actions and desires. She very badly wants conflicting things. That is what cannot go on. She simply must get this straight in her mind or go nuts.

 

[noahsombrero]

This is an English-speaking forum. Forum rules ask you to either post in English or provide a translation in your post please.

Which is sometimes unreasonable. Sometimes a person can speak a language but not write it, or read it but not write it. If a person were interested, they could go do a google translate. Not so hard these days. Ten years ago, Hungarian would be impentatrable for a non speaker. Not speaking French, I can sometimes get a clue from similarities between languages. In the previous case, nothing was going on here, and so I got curious and asked google. No harm. Also no harm to simply leave it there untranslated.

I would ask you to not speak with authority for all of us.

 

[Dealbreaker]

This is a symptom of her inner confusion.

Her confusion is undeniable.

 

[noahsombrero]

Her confusion is undeniable.

Thanks.

 

[TonyMurray]

Which is sometimes unreasonable. Sometimes a person can speak a language but not write it, or read it but not write it. If a person were interested, they could go do a google translate. Not so hard these days. Ten years ago, Hungarian would be impentatrable for a non speaker. Not speaking French, I can sometimes get a clue from similarities between languages. In the previous case, nothing was going on here, and so I got curious and asked google. No harm. Also no harm to simply leave it there untranslated.

I would ask you to not speak with authority for all of us.

As a regular poster on this forum, you should be expected to have at least a passable knowledge of the forum rules. As you apparently do not, I shall direct you to them here.

Of particular note, I refer you to rule 5 under section 1, General, which states:

• We are an English-speaking community. Please provide a translation with your post if it's not in English

 

[noahsombrero]

• We are an English-speaking community. Please provide a translation with your post if it's not in English

No doubt. However, up till now, we, all of us, have been content to ignore his Hungarian several times over the past little while. Why, all of a sudden do you object? It simply could not be that I got a piece of it translated could it? How paranoid of me. I would say, if somebody is offended, let them report his post to moderators and let them deal with it. At this point, it seems you are not a moderator.

At this point I suspect he has seen your objection. This topic should be over. I would let him decide what to do about what you say, since it has no authority here.

 

[TonyMurray]

No doubt. However, up till now, we, all of us, have been content to ignore his Hungarian several times over the past little while. Why, all of a sudden do you object? It simply could not be that I got a piece of it translated could it? How paranoid of me. I would say, if somebody is offended, let them report his post to moderators and let them deal with it. At this point, it seems you are not a moderator.

Dude, not everything is about you.

I posted a polite bit of advice, based on forum rules. If you post in a different language in an English-speaking forum, you are likely to just get your post overlooked, as you allude to in your first line here. Alternatively, you can follow forum rules and provide a translation - he could just go do a google translate, I hear it's not so hard these days...

 

[moonhowler1972]

No doubt. However, up till now, we, all of us, have been content to ignore his Hungarian several times over the past little while. Why, all of a sudden do you object? It simply could not be that I got a piece of it translated could it? How paranoid of me. I would say, if somebody is offended, let them report his post to moderators and let them deal with it. At this point, it seems you are not a moderator.

Oi. Dickhead. You do NOT speak for all of us so pull in your overinflated ego. I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than have a narcissistic windbag like you 'speaking' for me. You and 88 make this thread a pain in the ass to sift through for anything decent to see from others. And before you spew out 1000 words or so to ask 'why not block then?', it's because if I block you two clowns, that means I have to work out which wanker is which when others feel the need to respond to your utter crap. And given you clearly think you own the goddamn thread, it's not likely we'll ever graced by your ongoing absence. Damn.

 

[noahsombrero]

Dude, not everything is about you.

I posted a polite bit of advice, based on forum rules. If you post in a different language in an English-speaking forum, you are likely to just get your post overlooked, as you allude to in your first line here. Alternatively, you can follow forum rules and provide a translation - he could just go do a google translate, I hear it's not so hard these days...

Nuff said. Yes, let's let him decide. It also not being so hard for us to simply ignore what he says once in a while.

 

[noahsombrero]

Oi. Dickhead. You do NOT speak for all of us so pull in your overinflated ego. I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than have a narcissistic windbag like you 'speaking' for me. You and 88 make this thread a pain in the ass to sift through for anything decent to see from others. And before you spew out 1000 words or so to ask 'why not block then?', it's because if I block you two clowns, that means I have to work out which wanker is which when others feel the need to respond to your utter crap. And given you clearly think you own the goddamn thread, it's not likely we'll ever graced by your ongoing absence. Damn.

Now there is a valid post. If I can read this I can also skip over a little Hungarian once in a while. So can you. As you have been doing up till now.

Isn't it beautiful how we manage to put up with each other here? IRL,we would probably shoot each other.

 

[Lagunavii]

Now there is a valid post. If I can read this I can also skip over a little Hungarian once in a while. So can you. As you have been doing up till now.

Yes everybody has been skipping the Hungarian post completely, which was the point of Tony's post in the first place, not to speak on authority for the rest of us, not o single you out because the post agrees with some of your baseless outlandish theories, but to help the guy get a response.

 

[noahsombrero]

Yes everybody has been skipping the Hungarian post completely, which was the point of Tony's post in the first place, not to speak on authority for the rest of us, not o single you out because the post agrees with some of your baseless outlandish theories, but to help the guy get a response.

Which he has been content to do without up till now. As do I very often, no big deal for either of us. No, I don't think Tony's tone suggested a wish to help. That would have been expressed very differently, more like mine.

In the past on other forums, a translated post like above from me has been sufficient to let the guy know how to get replies.

 

[Lagunavii]

Which he has been content to do without up till now. As do I very often, no big deal for either of us. No, I don't think Tony's tone suggested a wish to help. That would have been expressed very differently, more like mine.

Yeah, weird how someone will keep doing the same thing wrong until told otherwise isn't it. Should Tony have told him at his 2nd post or the 15th? It is funny how I got a tone of help from the post though isn't it. And that was well before he confirmed that is what he was going for. Where as the tone I got from yours was nothing but condescendtion.

 

[xert13]

Pass the goulash…

 

[noahsombrero]

Yeah, weird how someone will keep doing the same thing wrong until told otherwise isn't it. Should Tony have told him at his 2nd post or the 15th?

I suspect we are already at 15. But you might be right, he posted again this morning in Hungarian. That might be what triggered Tony's authority. I did not respond again. My message has been delivered. And if you and I can put up with how we offend each others sensibilities which we do understand, we surely can put up with his, which we do not.

It is funny how I got a tone of help from the post though isn't it. And that was well before he confirmed that is what he was going for. Where as the tone I got from yours was nothing but condescendtion.

Funny, hilarious even.

And here we see how an opposing opinion can seem so threatening. Or condescending if you prefer. I get them all the time, read them all the time, and have no such response. They are simply words on my computer monitor.

Again, anybody who is offended by Hungarian in the message list can report it and get it removed, and perhaps an admonishment to him. That is the moderator's job not ours. So why again, do you want to argue about this, complete with personal aspersions? There is nothing any of us can accomplish by exchanging such stuff back and forth except the exchange. We are still not moderators.