Robb123456

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Vivian knows that Hutch has a deep sleep and never wakes up at night and that Christians bedroom walls are soundproof.
What about the backyard?
It is a safe zone also, because Hutch never walks around, where he sits, he sits and never stands up until his wife or boss tells him to do so.

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By the way it's common nowadays to let the wife sleep with the husbands boss inside his bedroom with the door closed while the husband sleeps in another room on a couch.

In this case, I don't see anything that points to cheating.
It's just an ordinary couple that got invited to a meal with an unexpected stay over.
The boss was worried about the couples safely return home at night.
The couple, especially the wife should be grateful that hubby has such a caring boss.
Guy, no need to be sarcastic, i don't say i agree with that. it's just that Vivian is stupid for even thinking it's possible for Hutch to not have heard anything, with the questions he later asks
 

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One damn NTR game with a revenge path is what i ask!Let the poor smucks turn things around :cool: Someone needs to get on that.
I'm still looking for a NTR that had a revenge path. It was one of my first NTRs. Wife cheated on husband with a bunch of men and was lying to him. When he found out he got her a hysterectomy after he tied her up in the room and he mindbroke her and she became a cum dumpster and he'd get paid by each guy to fuck her.
 

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Guy, no need to be sarcastic, i don't say i agree with that. it's just that Vivian is stupid for even thinking it's possible for Hutch to not have heard anything, with the questions he later asks
I agree with you on your points, I just made fun.
I guess we all can agree that the game has some logic errors, but it has one of the best NTR stories currently out there.

Edit: I see it like this, the couple knows exactly what is going on at Christians home and reading the text with this context in mind, makes the story even better.
It's like seeing the obvious in front of you, but pretending to be oblivious. (the couple is doing a charade to each other)
That is what makes the game incredible hot imo.
 
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Yeah tattoos are extremely commonplace today. Also in lesser games I would dismiss it as nothing special since a lot of devs put tattoos on their girls without any rhyme or reason.

Here though, I'd like to believe there's a reason for Vivian having such prominent tattoos. If anything because it's hot for Vivian to have a wild past.
 

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I think originally it did boil down to Fuck Boss=save job. But when the boss keeps playing that card ...and the fact that she LIKED the Sex.. Made it a lot easer each time. That is her torment.. She loves ... or think she loves her husband. I think she does hence her inner struggle. But we see that each time is easier and easier... Now she has the excuse of open marriage.
As for the boy not being Hutch's ... that is far out there. Tony did not even know Hutch wife before she went to the office.
I agree with this. Unless there's gonna be some next-level writing, we know that Hutch didn't talk about Vivian at the office. I also think Vivian started doing this to save Hutch's job, but she enjoyed it too much, so it became something deeper. So while the dev has stated that information has been kept secret for a reason, I think many of the theories are far-fetched.
 

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For the next release I respectfully ask to see more of the creampies... WE only got to see one... thebathroom sceen. We did not see the morning one in the BR or the outside one. Maybe when we see the film of the bedroom stuff.
 
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Not true... I met her the night before she went into the office! Joking aside though, you're right, Christian didn't even know about the existence of Vivian before she visited the office - on the one hand, that seems very odd because even if Hutch hasn't spoken about her, I feel like a boss would at least know if you're married or not; on the other hand, Christian doesn't seem to take much interest unless in his workers, so it's not that surprising after all.

The "Sawyer isn't Hutch's son" theory is too far out there for me to even entertain briefly. It's just clutching at straws because people need to find some extreme reason to explain Vivian's fast capitulation. I also don't buy the "Christian found out that Vivian cheated previously" theory (whether related to Sawyer's father or not). As well as being unnecessary complications that would go against what we knew of the Vivian/Hutch relationship before events of the story here, both theories are things that would be well hidden and I just can't see how Christian would somehow be able to uncover them in the few hours he had available to do so.

I really do think it's as simple as "fuck Christian to save Hutch's job", but the big question comes down to whether he instigated it or she did. I'm actually veering towards Vivian instigating it, her natural attraction to "bad boy" Christian (as seen in the initial office meeting) and the circumstances/his words and testing her etc., convincing her that it was Christian's idea all along.
The scene set the night before she went to Christian in the office definitely implied she knew it was going down this path. I think she asked something about what kind of man Christian is, etc. I agree that many of the theories are too far-fetched, and I think people are forgetting some of the dialogue that adds context to many of the decisions. I believe she went to Christian with this idea in mind, but I think both Vivian and Christian were both involved in instigating it.
 

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I agree with this. Unless there's gonna be some next-level writing, we know that Hutch didn't talk about Vivian at the office. I also think Vivian started doing this to save Hutch's job, but she enjoyed it too much, so it became something deeper. So while the dev has stated that information has been kept secret for a reason, I think many of the theories are far-fetched.
You may be right, the dev indeed intently hid this information for us wonder what happened. but he also said :
" As controversial as the whole backyard/bedroom part seems to be, it was/is the foundation I build this world on ", meaning it's a vital part o the story, so i don 't think it's something so easy to guess.

I agree with you on your points, I just made fun.
Sorry guy understood it the wrong way.
 

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She did not know Christian before she went to the office. She asked because I think she wanted to size up the opponent so to speak. After the office and how forward he was ....she knew what was going to happen. THe dress delivery confirmed it..
 

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For the next release I respectfully ask to see more of the creampies... WE only got to see one... thebathroom sceen. We did not see the morning one in the BR or the outside one. Maybe when we see the film of the bedroom stuff.
If possible I would like to see the genitals more intertwined, in the bathroom scene there was almost nothing to see.
Sure, if the game needs it is debatable, it's one of the rare cases where the story is more important than the porn aspect.
 

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If possible I would like to see the genitals more intertwined, in the bathroom scene there was almost nothing to see.
Sure, if the game needs it is debatable, it's one of the rare cases where the story is more important than the porn aspect.
i have no prblem with the angles, it's not vital for me to see very clearly his dick in her vagina, it's more about the energy of the scenes. And the slow animations don't do it for me, it's supposed to be passionnate, rough shagging. In the animations, Christian fucks like my dead grandpa, god bless his soul.
 
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The scene set the night before she went to Christian in the office definitely implied she knew it was going down this path. I think she asked something about what kind of man Christian is, etc. I agree that many of the theories are too far-fetched, and I think people are forgetting some of the dialogue that adds context to many of the decisions. I believe she went to Christian with this idea in mind, but I think both Vivian and Christian were both involved in instigating it.
I don't think she had any idea things would turn out as they did, not in her wildest imagination. She went out to bat for her husband, because presumably she didn't have the faith that Hutch would be able to pull off their plan on his own. It was only when she met Christian and he started to work on her that her mind began to turn that way.
 

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"As controversial as the whole backyard/bedroom part seems to be, it was/is the foundation I build this world on
I agree, the adultery has to start somewhere.
It was shocking that it happend so early in the game, but I think it was the right decision.
I reckon that the dev has something in store for us.
 
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I don't think she had any idea things would turn out as they did, not in her wildest imagination. She went out to bat for her husband, because presumably she didn't have the faith that Hutch would be able to pull off their plan on his own. It was only when she met Christian and he started to work on her that her mind began to turn that way.
That's a good point. Maybe she didn't plan for it, but there surely was a turning point when meeting him.
 

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I agree, the adultery has to start somewhere.
It was shocking that it happen so early in the game, but I think it was the right decision.
I reckon that the dev has something in store for us.
I definitely think we'll learn all about Vivian's past as the story goes on. It's just a matter of when.
 
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I'm not convinced, unless it fits the story - which would quite possibly feed in to some of the theories that have been raised in this thread. Otherwise, there would be nothing of note for us to learn about.
Hmm. If the dev does do it, I really hope it's not told as a flashback. Flashbacks ruin the flow of the story and take me out of my immersion 100% of the time.
 
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