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One of the things that strongly makes me want to dislike Vivian's character is the way she interacts with Christian in non-sexual scenes. She is instantly familiar with him, telling him intimate details of her sex life with Hutch immediately upon their first phone conversation. You would think that Christian would be viewed by her as the primary source of her problems. But she talks to him as if he is an ally in what she seems to think her problem is, namely her communication and relationship with Hutch. And she trusts Christian's opinion on what needs to be done rather than her husband's.
totally agree ... think i posted this before was thinking about it.
Granted, Hutch doesn't seem to be very long on advice in this story so far so I'd say there's room for some forgiveness there.
i mean i blame vivian for not reading the signs that hutch is giving her.... and she explains those same signs to chrisitan and even belives every word christian says when she has doubts instead of relying on the 22 years of marriage experience with hutch. so i dont think hutch is in the wrong. well then again its porngamelogic...
 
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One of the things that strongly makes me want to dislike Vivian's character is the way she interacts with Christian in non-sexual scenes. She is instantly familiar with him, telling him intimate details of her sex life with Hutch immediately upon their first phone conversation. You would think that Christian would be viewed by her as the primary source of her problems. But she talks to him as if he is an ally in what she seems to think her problem is, namely her communication and relationship with Hutch. And she trusts Christian's opinion on what needs to be done rather than her husband's.

Granted, Hutch doesn't seem to be very long on advice in this story so far so I'd say there's room for some forgiveness there.

I suppose a lot of that could be chalked up to the idea that she doesn't really know what her problem is and these new physical urges are clouding her thoughts too much. Assuming of course that these urges are NEW.

There's still room for redemption for Vivian, depending on what the updates reveal. But watching her try to reassure Hutch multiple times that she is there to listen to him, when almost the entire issue of the tension of the story is a result of things she hasn't told him, kind of makes me feel she deserves whatever's coming.

So for now when I re-watch the scene in the kitchen where Christian teaches her how to deepthroat, I'm not really feeling any pangs of sympathy for her.

Plenty of other pangs though...
yes, that's my problem too. In my eyes, they behave and interact like a couple who know each other from before.
 

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I suppose a lot of that could be chalked up to the idea that she doesn't really know what her problem is and these new physical urges are clouding her thoughts too much. Assuming of course that these urges are NEW.

There's still room for redemption for Vivian, depending on what the updates reveal. But watching her try to reassure Hutch multiple times that she is there to listen to him, when almost the entire issue of the tension of the story is a result of things she hasn't told him, kind of makes me feel she deserves whatever's coming.

So for now when I re-watch the scene in the kitchen where Christian teaches her how to deepthroat, I'm not really feeling any pangs of sympathy for her.

Plenty of other pangs though...
are they new urges for a married woman of 40 with a trampstamp. it would be more believable to chalk it up to having a weakness for men like christian.
i dont see any redemption for vivian even though i want her to be redeemed. after the way she talks in the office bathroom about her duty and then parroting the same at the end of the update...
too many layers to this game... get over one and run into another.
 
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then what do think will be the change the dev does in regards to the antagonist.
He's already doing it with the attitude. He's not being aggressive mean sad to say he's making it hard to dislike him. The DEV has left me with the question what is so special about Vivian to Christian. He can have any pussy hence laying next to him while he's talking to Vivian. He doesn't seem to have a issue with Hutch. He just feels he doesn't have a backbone and has seemed to want him to get one.
 

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He's already doing it with the attitude. He's not being aggressive mean sad to say he's making it hard to dislike him. The DEV has left me with the question what is so special about Vivian to Christian. He can have any pussy hence laying next to him while he's talking to Vivian. He doesn't seem to have a issue with Hutch. He just feels he doesn't have a backbone and has seemed to want him to get one.
Not sure what is to be done there except maybe give Christian a weakness? I can't really see Christian developing feelings for Vivian after the way he's treated her.
 

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are they new urges for a married woman of 40 with a trampstamp. it would be more believable to chalk it up to having a weakness for men like christian.
i dont see any redemption for vivian even though i want her to be redeemed. after the way she talks in the office bathroom about her duty and then parroting the same at the end of the update...
too many layers to this game... get over one and run into another.
The way Vivian reacts to what goes on makes me feel like she is new to this control and domination game. Maybe she fucked around a little bit before she got married but nothing like this. And she's not emotionally equipped to handle it.

Also, I say that she might "deserve whatever's coming." What if she enjoys what's coming? If she turns into a dirty slut who's fucking not just Christian but other people where is the tension in the story there for Hutch?
 
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Not sure what is to be done there except maybe give Christian a weakness? I can't really see Christian developing feelings for Vivian after the way he's treated her.
One my previous post I was talking about things Christian said to Hutch about love and how people due things for love, we assume he is talking about Vivian and Hutch. I believe it is possible he was talking about him and Vivian. But not in a current sense. Someone on the thread said Christian might have known her. What if he did she and Hutch wouldn't have known or remembered. Hypothetical Christian had an interest in her back in the days knew about her Free girl past, He didn't pursue her cause he wanted that paper. Time passes and one day she comes strolling into his office and he has those feelings again so he sweet talks Hutch to keep him in play so when he is done she has someone to go back to cause he loves her. I know stretch.
 

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The way Vivian reacts to what goes on makes me feel like she is new to this control and domination game. Maybe she fucked around a little bit before she got married but nothing like this. And she's not emotionally equipped to handle it.

Also, I say that she might "deserve whatever's coming." What if she enjoys what's coming? If she turns into a dirty slut who's fucking not just Christian but other people where is the tension in the story there for Hutch?
What I mean is if that is the route she goes Hutch will know that. And he will probably know that there's a difference between her exploring her horizons and her just becoming a free-use whore. I couldn't respect his character at all if it was the second option and he stayed with her.
 

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One my previous post I was talking about things Christian said to Hutch about love and how people due things for love, we assume he is talking about Vivian and Hutch. I believe it is possible he was talking about him and Vivian. But not in a current sense. Someone on the thread said Christian might have known her. What if he did she and Hutch wouldn't have known or remembered. Hypothetical Christian had an interest in her back in the days knew about her Free girl past, He didn't pursue her cause he wanted that paper. Time passes and one day she comes strolling into his office and he has those feelings again so he sweet talks Hutch to keep him in play so when he is done she has someone to go back to cause he loves her. I know stretch.
That's a cool idea. it would certainly add a drastic new element to the story. I don't think I want to develop any sympathy for Christian though. I don't want to like him. I may want to embody him sometimes personally, but I certainly don't want him to be a sympathetic character in the story. At least I don't think I do at the moment. But with the awesome job the DEV has done so far here, I wouldn't be that surprised if they managed to change my mind on that.
 
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Just going to throw it out there last chapter she will find out she's pregnant. Christian is going to have recanalization(medical term for vasectomy self reversal) situation and not know it and that will be it for Hutch.
 
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One my previous post I was talking about things Christian said to Hutch about love and how people due things for love, we assume he is talking about Vivian and Hutch. I believe it is possible he was talking about him and Vivian. But not in a current sense. Someone on the thread said Christian might have known her. What if he did she and Hutch wouldn't have known or remembered. Hypothetical Christian had an interest in her back in the days knew about her Free girl past, He didn't pursue her cause he wanted that paper. Time passes and one day she comes strolling into his office and he has those feelings again so he sweet talks Hutch to keep him in play so when he is done she has someone to go back to cause he loves her. I know stretch.
One my previous post I was talking about things Christian said to Hutch about love and how people due things for love, we assume he is talking about Vivian and Hutch. I believe it is possible he was talking about him and Vivian. But not in a current sense. Someone on the thread said Christian might have known her. What if he did she and Hutch wouldn't have known or remembered. Hypothetical Christian had an interest in her back in the days knew about her Free girl past, He didn't pursue her cause he wanted that paper. Time passes and one day she comes strolling into his office and he has those feelings again so he sweet talks Hutch to keep him in play so when he is done she has someone to go back to cause he loves her. I know stretch.
Interesting twist. that was my assumption that he might know her.
I could accept that. It's both a good and a bad ending. so 2 endings.
I think this story will continue in a similar way.
 

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Just going to throw it out there last chapter she will find out she's pregnant. Christian is going to have recanalization(medical term for vasectomy self reversal) situation and not know it and that will be it for Hutch.
that will make the game netorare not netorase.
 

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Maybe she will become a happy slut or Christian's new love.
Becoming Christian lover would be very interesting then instead of slut she would have to deal with the argument that she couldn't control the overwelthming feeling that she had everytime she met Christian and how she surrendered everytime. It would be a very interesting continuation.
 

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this is my favorite. says more than 1000 words
Yeah, and I think that's Christian standing at the side too.

Like, it seems to be a rough period for them, and he wants sex, but she's saying she's on her period. Something like that. He still insists.
 
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