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Glad to see a lot of passion in the comments still. Everyone has grand visions for the future and some strong opinions on how to achieve that. I'm still confident my story is on 'the road less traveled' and is a new take on an old genre.

I did not set out to make this perfectly believable. As Tony showed, that would have been a very short and boring story. If you want real life I recommend the customer service line at Walmart. None of my favorite movies would pass for real life but are entertaining none the less. That's all I hope to convey here... an entertaining story. You can be unrealistic but still have a good story with realistic dialog and good production value within that unrealistic world. I don't pretend to know the psychology of a man or a woman nor do I believe they'd react the way I portray them. Maybe I'm misreading some of the posts but if anyone is actually angry because real people wouldn't act this way, I simply ask they enjoy the story for what it is... a story. If you hate that everyone is unlikable and there is no one to root for, I recommend you dip out now because you won't like where this is heading. I stated early on that I create this for myself and share just to give back. I'm not chasing patreon subscribers or steam sales so while I'm happy others are enjoying this, I'm not influenced by outside suggestions.

I'm perfectly fine with a fan art thread, I'm just not ready for perfect Vivian clones out there and perhaps people getting confused about what is cannon and what is fan fiction. Therefore, I won't share many details but yes, she is G8 Charity. Hopefully there is enough action in my game people won't need to do to MHB what they did to AWAM. But when this project is finished I might upload her as a complete package for others to play with or maybe create sequels/prequels. If people have questions about other specific assets (character or set pieces) private message me and I'll get back to you. I will say I use several hair products from OOT(out of touch) and WF(winfield). Should be easy to find.

Still actively working on it. Previous time estimate is still reasonably accurate. TRying to get done what I can while weather still poor. Once it warms up I'll slow down because of life. No more sneak peaks (they'll just give away the plot). Leaving in the 'auto advance' feature. I know it's unpopular but my #1 fan likes it.

As usual, thanks for all the support.
My thoughts exactly! I consider most movies to be cartoons with real people. If you delve to deep into most movie and TV stories, of course they are unbelievable. John Wick, Die Hard, Reacher, any Schwarzeneggar movie, all unbelivable but very entertaining! You have created a story with a cliff hanger ending leaving almost everyone begging for more. Bravo! Well done!
 
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I managed to get my hands on the original draft of the game, but it was much shorter, so I'm happy that @SC Stories scrapped it in favour of extending the story. Here's the "alternate" sequence of events from where Hutch was given his "homework" task at Christian's house:
LOL! Short and sweet, too bad Christian got off lightly :)


If the VN intends to stick to the NTR theme till the end then it's a trap. The girl in Chistian's bed looks like Addison(or maybe her mother lol, so Christian's sister in law, to bypass incest). Either Addison is getting used/blackmailed by her uncle to mentally/emotionally torture and manipulate Hutch or she is as sick as her uncle and is only pretending.
She is probably a random blonde. The way Christian was looking at her, after speaking with Vivian gave me the impression that he was thinking of giving up the random hookup and perusing Vivian for a more meaningful relationship... just a thought.


If you hate that everyone is unlikable and there is no one to root for, I recommend you dip out now because you won't like where this is heading
I guess it is headed to finding them even more unlikable :)
It's their unrealistic flaws blended with a fine story that keeps us drawn to this game.

I'm still confident my story is on 'the road less traveled' and is a new take on an old genre.
I'm cheering for you... don't let us down :)
 

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IS THIS OK ?
Janey Hair for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female - Bangs 2 - style 04

It's this one, not sure of what colour used, possible one of the expansion pack:
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just one comment, look at the difference between the models.... :love:(y) i mean even if its stock model... the level of detail change just in the hair is insane. bet that there is at least 5 different modifications used on hair alone.

I use several hair products from OOT(out of touch) and WF(winfield)
dont think i need to say more if you have read the dev's post on vivian's model. if you havent i posted what he wrote about the hair mods he used in the model
 

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just one comment, look at the difference between the models.... :love:(y) i mean even if its stock model... the level of detail change just in the hair is insane. bet that there is at least 5 different modifications used on hair alone.
The base does come with a whole bunch of adjustments (e.g. adjusting bangs, and style). I didn't bother fiddling with them, just show default.
 
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DEV has listed a couple of endings in the game. Of which, of course, there will be only one. I just can't find it now, I'll copy it as soon as I find it.
Hutch is going to commit suicide!?
Hutch becomes an alpha and seeks revenge.
He accepts and stays with Vivien.
They divorce Vivien.
Vivien will be a debauchee.
Suicide hit me in the head, the first two endings could be interesting.
If hutch is about to do 1st one, I hope he took other 2 with him to hell aswell
 
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If you hate that everyone is unlikable and there is no one to root for, I recommend you dip out now because you won't like where this is heading.
No problem, there is still the sweet and tender Addison, she can be trusted, right Dev?...
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Right... Dev?... Dev?!...


PS: No problem, bring that pain! :BootyTime:
 
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"That's all I hope to convey here... an entertaining story."
"I'm not influenced by outside suggestions."
"Hopefully there is enough action in my game people won't need to do to MHB what they did to AWAM."
"When this project is finished I might upload her as a complete package for others to play with or maybe create sequels/prequels."
It's raining good news.
"Previous time estimate is still reasonably accurate."
That's a bummer though.
Back to the cave...3 more months.
 
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Hattyrulz

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No problem, there is still the sweet and tender Addison, she can be trusted, right Dev?...
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Right... Dev?... Dev?!...


PS: No problem, bring that pain! :BootyTime:
all have faith in team snarky secretary.

ps: just saw the dev's post above mine.... the light at the end of the tunnel is fading......:sick: goodbye team snarky secretary.
 
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DarkArchon

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The "subtext" in the conversations between Hutch and Christian is clearly the voice of mainstream society speaking. And because of that it is so convincing and successful with Hutch. It is not some sinister genius coming up with something original but the usual tropes in store for a betrayed husband ("man up" by swallowing it). The problem for Hutch (not being discussed enough sofar, but a lost the middle weeks of discussion here, so I'm not sure) is, that there is no accepted script for him (who is of course a weak character who would need such a script because he can't come up with one himself) anymore of how to act in this moment. Of course it is easy for us as someone said above to be sure to have landed in prison or hospital. I'm not so sure. First thing we are all totally conditioned to avoid even the slightest bit of bodily harm and violence at any cost. Males legitimately enraged because of betrayel, the righeous anger of a newly cucked - this is not a thing anymore in mainstream movies or novels let alone society (don't want to get into judicial matters). Point is: the framing Christian offers is the one that is seductively in tune with what is expected from a civilized loving tolerant husband and, what is more important, it offers the easy well adjusted way for Hutch in this context as disgusting as it does appear to us who are in the voyeur's seat. Hutch, reacting on his authentic impulse would have needed to exit not only marriage and job but also the hive mind of current society including that of his male colleagues who are sitting there like malicious idiots who belittle him but would have acted the same, they are just happy they weren't targeted this time.
I referred to Christian as a psychopath. I never referred to him as a sinister genius. I don't know where you are getting that from. Being good at manipulating CERTAIN kinds of people does not make you a genius. As far as Hutch's reaction is concerned, it is very atypical. Most men would be enraged, and at the very least would threaten Christian, although many would take it beyond threats. Also, main stream media has not abandoned the idea of a jealous husband reacting violently to the infidelity of his wife. I don't know where you are getting that either. Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore? Your take sounds very gen Z. When you are talking about society, you are obviously talking about Gen Z because that is not the attitude of most of society. No offense to Gen Z, but sometimes they think their take on situations is everyone's take on situations. and that is not the case.
 

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I referred to Christian as a psychopath. I never referred to him as a sinister genius. I don't know where you are getting that from. Being good at manipulating CERTAIN kinds of people does not make you a genius. As far as Hutch's reaction is concerned, it is very atypical. Most men would be enraged, and at the very least would threaten Christian, although many would take it beyond threats. Also, main stream media has not abandoned the idea of a jealous husband reacting violently to the infidelity of his wife. I don't know where you are getting that either. Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore? Your take sounds very gen Z. When you are talking about society, you are obviously talking about Gen Z because that is not the attitude of most of society. No offense to Gen Z, but sometimes they think their take on situations is everyone's take on situations. and that is not the case.
I hope dev has hutchy tied up while Christian throttles hutchy's wife in the booty right in front of him lol.. that would be epic.. I have a feeling hutchy will be wearing a cage by the end of next episode lol
 

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Read a few ending ideas so I thought I would have some fun and add my own ending to the story.

We know the endings going to be dark, right? Don't take it too seriously. Well here goes!

Rupert has shown a lot of interest towards Vivian so far but over the course of the story it turns into obsession. He catches Christian and Vivian talking and being a little handsy near the class. He follows them home and assumes Christian and Vivian are married.
He steals a gun from the mechanic and blows them both away while they sleep together. He flee's the scene just before Hutch who was nearby runs to the scene and finds the bodies.
Hutch gets charged with double homicide and the story could go two ways from here. Hutch goes to prison and kills himself or Hutch is cleared of all charges but loses his son and can't find good work due to the doubts caused by the charges.

This is about as dark an ending that comes to mind, but I predict it will be something more emotionally NTR focused.
 

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In real life, I would have gone to the restroom like the husband. Huh! I wouldn't have cared how much I had to fuck Christian, I would have punched him in the mouth afterwards. Or I would have yelled at them, don't fuck here, I want to fuck my fucking wife.
 

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This is about as dark an ending that comes to mind, but I predict it will be something more emotionally NTR focused.
yes there were some similar endings not with rupert. they were mostly revolving around the 3 main characters and sometimes addison. yes everyone is expecting a dark ending since the Dev said so ... but some of us are hoping for a best of the worst endings. and keep the creative imagination working.(y)
 

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Read a few ending ideas so I thought I would have some fun and add my own ending to the story.

We know the endings going to be dark, right? Don't take it too seriously. Well here goes!

Rupert has shown a lot of interest towards Vivian so far but over the course of the story it turns into obsession. He catches Christian and Vivian talking and being a little handsy near the class. He follows them home and assumes Christian and Vivian are married.
He steals a gun from the mechanic and blows them both away while they sleep together. He flee's the scene just before Hutch who was nearby runs to the scene and finds the bodies.
Hutch gets charged with double homicide and the story could go two ways from here. Hutch goes to prison and kills himself or Hutch is cleared of all charges but loses his son and can't find good work due to the doubts caused by the charges.

This is about as dark an ending that comes to mind, but I predict it will be something more emotionally NTR focused.
No offense, but not enough sex in your version.
 
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I referred to Christian as a psychopath. I never referred to him as a sinister genius. I don't know where you are getting that from. Being good at manipulating CERTAIN kinds of people does not make you a genius. As far as Hutch's reaction is concerned, it is very atypical. Most men would be enraged, and at the very least would threaten Christian, although many would take it beyond threats. Also, main stream media has not abandoned the idea of a jealous husband reacting violently to the infidelity of his wife. I don't know where you are getting that either. Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore? Your take sounds very gen Z. When you are talking about society, you are obviously talking about Gen Z because that is not the attitude of most of society. No offense to Gen Z, but sometimes they think their take on situations is everyone's take on situations. and that is not the case.
While I took your quote as opportunity for my post, it does in no way argue against you. Not everything here is a battle. And for somebody who seems to be sensitive to assumptions you make yourself a lot of them. I'm Gen X. And you didn't get my point concerning mainstream media: they consistently (and I'm refering to western societies) portrait such actions as illegitimate and inappropriate. In police dramas this is the villain. It is condemned and ridiculed. It is no role model. It is not dealt with as understandable and tolerable. This is the type of masculinity current societies have decided long ago to move away from. I'm just stating facts here, not approving them. How could you not get this? And this trend is of course much older than Gen Z. I don't want to get in the whole Dom. Viol. topic and I think we don't need to. This started in the 70ies.
Concerning "most men": enraged of course, but acting on it - that's exactly what I dared to doubt and you haven't changed my mind by just stating so. It's just grandstanding. Your wish is not reality. BTW don't you see that if you start with violence here it is not so sure it wouldn't hit the wife also? why only the Boss? Have you thought about that or doesn't that fit in your imagination of a knightly battle? Rage and shock doesn't translate into violence so easily, especially if you see that you lost your wife and marriage already on the spot. There is nothing left to fight for. The wife is the disappointment here, not the boss, and some people are intelligent enough to see this already in the situation. And feel helpless against that fact. They can't force her back.
 
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