While I took your quote as opportunity for my post, it does in no way argue against you. Not everything here is a battle. And for somebody who seems to be sensitive to assumptions you make yourself a lot of them. I'm Gen X. And you didn't get my point concerning mainstream media: they consistently (and I'm refering to western societies) portrait such actions as illegitimate and inappropriate. In police dramas this is the villain. It is condemned and ridiculed. It is no role model. It is not dealt with as understandable and tolerable. This is the type of masculinity current societies have decided long ago to move away from. I'm just stating facts here, not approving them. How could you not get this? And this trend is of course much older than Gen Z. I don't want to get in the whole Dom. Viol. topic and I think we don't need to. This started in the 70ies.
Concerning "most men": enraged of course, but acting on it - that's exactly what I dared to doubt and you haven't changed my mind by just stating so. It's just grandstanding. Your wish is not reality. BTW don't you see that if you start with violence here it is not so sure it wouldn't hit the wife also? why only the Boss? Have you thought about that or doesn't that fit in your imagination of a knightly battle? Rage and shock doesn't translate into violence so easily, especially if you see that you lost your wife and marriage already on the spot. There is nothing left to fight for. The wife is the disappointment here, not the boss, and some people are intelligent enough to see this already in the situation. And feel helpless against that fact. They can't force her back.
I wasn't saying that the violence could not spill over to the wife, or that the wife could not be the target of the violence. I actually wrote that in my post. "Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore?" That both parties in infidelity can be retaliated against for the infidelity is a given. I agree with you that characters that kill their unfaithful spouses and or their lovers are portrayed as the villains. That being written, men who become violent against men who are sleeping with their wives are not viewed as villains by our society, unless they go so far as to kill or maim the person. They might be looked at like they were not smart to become violent in light of the consequences, like being criminally charged, but they would not be looked at down upon from a moral point of view. Even the police arresting the person might not think the husband was wrong to get into fight with a person that was screwing his wife. He would still arrest the person. I have heard women say they think both parties in situations of infidelity are legitimately subject to violent retaliation, and they were including the wives. I am glad you clarified that you are Gen X, but I still think what you said is more Gen Z. I think there are those in the media that want to push what you are saying as far as wanting men to just suck it up and take it, but I don't think the majority of people think that way. This is despite the attempts of the media to shape people's thinking. By the way, I am in no way letting Vivian or Christian off the hook. All 3 characters are messed up. The smart move for Hutch would be to kick Vivian to the curb and get a new job. I agree with you that I don't think he has anything worth fighting for in Vivian or the job. But again, addressing the issue of violence. Fear of violent retaliation is one of the main reasons people keep their infidelities secret. Christian was behaving in a way that was particularly provocative. It was the kind of behavior that could easily push someone over the edge. Your points are taken that everything does not need to be a battle. Interestingly, this is the most I have ever posted on this forum. Usually I just read the posts and dismiss everything. I guess this game has really sucked me in. I am still loving the drama even though I think all 3 main characters are unlikable.
PS. I saw in one of your posts that you are based in Europe. People in the US tend to be more violent than other countries. There is a lot more violent crime in the US, and people in the US, at least in my estimation, are more prone to use violence than in most places in Europe. This could explain some of the differences in our perspectives.
