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"Sexual coercion is not rape in most cases." I'm curious to know what a "minority of cases" is?
Sorry, I was being a smarmy lawyer and not framing it in absolutes. There can be circumstances, depending on the jurisdiction and state law (in the U.S.), where sexual coercion coupled with something else, like inebriation, can meet the statutory requirements for rape. It all hinges on consent and the ability of the accuser to demonstrate he/she was not capable of giving consent because of some impairment (drugs, alcohol, gag etc.). In this instance, we must assume Vivian gave consent through words or actions. If Christian said, “give me a bj or your husband loses his job” and Vivian does so…she consented. She had a choice. Indeed, she has a choice throughout the story. Is it initially coercion, yes, but not rape.
 
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Sorry, I was being a smarmy lawyer and not framing it in absolutes. There can be circumstances, depending on the jurisdiction and state law (in the U.S.), where sexual coercion coupled with something else, like inebriation, can meet the statutory requirements for rape. It all hinges on consent and the ability of the accuser to demonstrate he/she was not capable of giving consent because of some impairment (drugs, alcohol, gag etc.). In this instance, we must assume Vivian gave consent through words or actions. If Christian said, “give me a bj or your husband loses his job” and Vivian does so…she consented. She had a choice. Indeed, she has a choice throughout the story. Is it initially coercion, yes, but not rape.
Thank you for the thorough explanation, I understood that it is not rape. But in essence, it does not change what I meant - it is violence, spiritual violence. It is both sexual harassment and blackmail combined. And in this sense, the Boss, if not physically, then spiritually raped Vivian. But she chose it herself. So, is Vivian the victim? If so, why didn't she go home right away, and "in a state of deep psychological trauma" continued to flirt with the Boss and...? Damn, I got confused. Hehe, fun game.
 

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Why are we trying to rewrite what has clearly already happened? We do theories here for what's still to come, not fanfic of what has already passed.

(Also, please use multiquote instead of posting multiple times in a row.)
Oh, sorry, I didn't know this was a dreamers forum. I guess I missed the title. I'm clearly not good at using forums, but I promise I won't make that mistake again.
 

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Hello everyone!
If everyone doesn't like the nymphomaniac idea, I propose a logical and most realistic version of events.
Until dinner at the Boss's house, everything should remain as it is. But after the Boss finds out that Hutch witnessed the rape of his wife (under pressure from blackmail), the Boss suggests that BOTH of them join him in bed. Up to this point, nothing needs to be changed. Even Vivian's line becomes logical: "We should thank the host for his hospitality."
WHAT NEXT? Here, fantasy runs wild. In my opinion, first there is love between the three, then the men take turns resting, and Vivian fucks one, then the other. When the sun rises, the threesome has active sex again. How many funny lines and animations can there be! Then everyone drinks coffee and goes about their business.
SUMMARY: Hatch's job and salary are saved, there was no sexual harassment, there is no betrayal - the family is saved, everyone is satisfied and almost happy.
Now all further events fit almost perfectly into the general scenario, except that some lines will have to be corrected.
But no, you want all the characters to suffer from emotional experiences. You are just sadists!
It was consensual sex you numnut, look at the storyline, she wanted to go along for the ride all along. You are just being a troll. She was keen as, knowing she could use her sexuality to influence the boss, even the husband is kinda thinking what's wrong with this crazy bitch and trying to get her out of it, but she is adamant, than she manipulates her husband to except his fate as a cuck and goes to great lengths to do this because she wants it bad can't wait for the next installment.
 

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It was consensual sex you numnut, look at the storyline, she wanted to go along for the ride all along. You are just being a troll. She was keen as, knowing she could use her sexuality to influence the boss, even the husband is kinda thinking what's wrong with this crazy bitch and trying to get her out of it, but she is adamant, than she manipulates her husband to except his fate as a cuck and goes to great lengths to do this because she wants it bad can't wait for the next installment.
I would rather say that it is an example of a specific CNC
 
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It was consensual sex you numnut, look at the storyline, she wanted to go along for the ride all along. You are just being a troll. She was keen as, knowing she could use her sexuality to influence the boss, even the husband is kinda thinking what's wrong with this crazy bitch and trying to get her out of it, but she is adamant, than she manipulates her husband to except his fate as a cuck and goes to great lengths to do this because she wants it bad can't wait for the next installment.
Hehe. I agree and have already given such an option, you can find it in my story. But I was sharply criticized for it, claiming that Vivian is a good wife and family man. She did all this under the pressure of circumstances solely for the sake of her husband and family and now she is very, very, very worried. So I gave two more of my options for the development of events so that this adventure has at least some logical sequence.
I think in the next series Vivian will not withstand such psychological pressure and will still die from this (or maybe from something else) )))
 

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Hehe. I agree and have already given such an option, you can find it in my story. But I was sharply criticized for it, claiming that Vivian is a good wife and family man. She did all this under the pressure of circumstances solely for the sake of her husband and family and now she is very, very, very worried. So I gave two more of my options for the development of events so that this adventure has at least some logical sequence.
I think in the next series Vivian will not withstand such psychological pressure and will still die from this (or maybe from something else) )))
you're really as pleasant as a finger up my ass. I'll ignore you like I did with duke1199
 
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Lot of discussion regarding nymphomania, and if Vivian is one. If we only go by what has occurred so far then no, then no, she isn't. Not even close. Is she a sex maniac of some sort? No, not even that.
From the beginning we can assume it was definitely sexual coercion, hence a force of sexual assault/abuse (fuck boss or else job loss). We could see as the night progressed that Vivian was not into it, the kitchen scene showed that even though her body responded to the physical act, her mind was not into it. By the early morning however it appeared that she was comfortable and accepting to the sex act, even mentioning that she knows how to please him now. The following scene in the bathroom, reinforces the notion that she is comfortable with sexual contact with Christian (in a way he has broken her into being his cum dump). Even so, she still was hesitant to do the act, even pulling away at one point, and you could say still sexually coerced into performing.
All we can get from this is that she enjoys sex, like any other person, but does not have some sickness or condition that makes her desire it constantly. We could say that she is having a midlife sexual re-awakening. A long term relationship can make sex feel routine, and something new (and in this case taboo) can make sex feel "better" for a while (until the new becomes routine again).
 

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I had an idea this morning for a twist in the plot that would put a lot of things in this story in a different context. Up till now I was thinking that the reason Vivian fucked Christian was so that Hutch could keep his job. This is one reason why I found Vivian so unlikable. That is a very stupid reason to betray your husband of 22 years. This new theory not only puts Vivian's actions in a new light, but Christian is also slightly less vicious and sadistic (to be clear, he is still a scumbag). It also makes Hutch a little less sympathetic. The author said the backyard scene is key, and I got the impression there will be unexpected twists.

Imagine the scene in Christian's back yard where he first fucks Vivian. Just before he fucks her, he tells Vivian that Hutch losing the 2 clients was not the real reason he was going to fire Hutch. The real reason he was going to fire Hutch was that Hutch was embezzling money. He tells Vivian, that he used Hutch's loss of 2 clients as an excuse to fire Hutch without revealing the theft. Another possibility could be that he tells Vivian that Hutch's theft is related to why the company lost 2 clients. After this, when Christian saw how pretty Vivian was, he decided to take advantage of the situation.

There are several problems with the above theory, but I will try to address some of them. This is only a theory, and I could be 100% wrong. We will find out in the upcoming updates.

Problem #1, if this was the case, why didn't Christian have Hutch prosecuted, or at least confront him about the theft.

1. Hutch may have mentioned that he had a son in college, and may have given signs the family was struggling financially.
2. Despite Christian being a terrible person, Christian might not be sadistic enough to want to see Hutch go to prison. Maybe there is a shred of humanity in Christian.
3. The amount of money being stolen might be a lot for Hutch and Vivian, but be trivial for a businessman like Christian.
4. If he thought Hutch was stealing to take care of his family, he may have said to himself, "Sometimes people do the wrong thing for the right reasons... out of love." This puts the scene below in new context. If the theory is correct, and it may not be, Christian could also be referring here to Hutch's theft, not just Vivian fucking Christian. I don't think Hutch is aware of the dual reference.

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If Hutch was stealing money, this could be a reference to that along with being a reference to Hutch letting Christian keep fucking Vivian. Again, if this is true, I don't think Hutch knows it is a dual reference.

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Problem #2, why is Vivian not outraged at Hutch, if he stole money?

1. If Vivian had been pressuring Hutch about money, she might blame herself for Hutch stealing.
2. Vivian might interpret Hutch's stealing as an act of love towards her and their son Sawyer.
3. Given their relationship, if Hutch wanted Sawyer to go to an affordable college, but Vivian wanted him to go to an expensive college, Vivian would get her way.
4. Hutch buying Vivian the expensive car might be an example of him trying to please her with expensive gifts.
5. If the above things are true, that would explain why Vivian is so emotional. It would even explain why she refers to Hutch as, "her poor sweet prince."

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Vivian clearly gets her way in the house. It possible the family's financial problems are the result of Hutch giving Vivian what she wants, or what he thinks she wants.

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It is possible that what Hutch says in the screenshot below is foreshadowing them getting concrete evidence against Hutch.

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Hutch is good with numbers. He might have thought that he was clever enough to syphon off a little bit of money here and there, but never get caught. I could see Christian telling Vivian this right before he fucked her. In this situation, Vivian could have agreed to fuck Christian to avoid Christian going to the authorities, or as payment since Christian did not go to the authorities. If this theory is correct, I could see Christian mentioning that the IT people found further evidence of Hutch embezzling on his computer or in his files.

If Vivian decided to have sex with Christian the first time beyond saving Hutch's his job, and her obvious attraction to Christian, what the reason is hasn't been made clear yet, but this is my attempt to understand what the reason might be. She is obviously still a cheater, and she loves male attention, but if there was something drastic that pushed her over the edge at Christian's house, I think something like this could be it.
 

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Yes! She needs to see what it feels like, cause with her reaction in the last discussion when she tears up after giving him permission to even things out she wouldnt like it. It could be where the jealousy comes in cause that is not coming from Hutch, he is not jealous... simply broken.

It would be interesting to see how quickly she bends over for the boss again, knowing now that Hutch was distancing himself from her because he knew all along, while she continued to lie to his face about it. Will she even resist or just accept it? Will the boss need to keep threatening his job each time? Even in the bathroom he has to use that again so that she gives in.

I still believe the other characters are there to show that she wont just give in to anyone, she is doing this for a reason, how far she is willing to go remains to be seen.
 
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I had an idea this morning for a twist in the plot that would put a lot of things in this story in a different context. Up till now I was thinking that the reason Vivian fucked Christian was so that Hutch could keep his job. This is one reason why I found Vivian so unlikable. That is a very stupid reason to betray your husband of 22 years. This new theory not only puts Vivian's actions in a new light, but Christian is also slightly less vicious and sadistic (to be clear, he is still a scumbag). It also makes Hutch a little less sympathetic. The author said the backyard scene is key, and I got the impression there will be unexpected twists.

Imagine the scene in Christian's back yard where he first fucks Vivian. Just before he fucks her, he tells Vivian that Hutch losing the 2 clients was not the real reason he was going to fire Hutch. The real reason he was going to fire Hutch was that Hutch was embezzling money. He tells Vivian, that he used Hutch's loss of 2 clients as an excuse to fire Hutch without revealing the theft. Another possibility could be that he tells Vivian that Hutch's theft is related to why the company lost 2 clients. After this, when Christian saw how pretty Vivian was, he decided to take advantage of the situation.

There are several problems with the above theory, but I will try to address some of them. This is only a theory, and I could be 100% wrong. We will find out in the upcoming updates.

Problem #1, if this was the case, why didn't Christian have Hutch prosecuted, or at least confront him about the theft.

1. Hutch may have mentioned that he had a son in college, and may have given signs the family was struggling financially.
2. Despite Christian being a terrible person, Christian might not be sadistic enough to want to see Hutch go to prison. Maybe there is a shred of humanity in Christian.
3. The amount of money being stolen might be a lot for Hutch and Vivian, but be trivial for a businessman like Christian.
4. If he thought Hutch was stealing to take care of his family, he may have said to himself, "Sometimes people do the wrong thing for the right reasons... out of love." This puts the scene below in new context. If the theory is correct, and it may not be, Christian could also be referring here to Hutch's theft, not just Vivian fucking Christian. I don't think Hutch is aware of the dual reference.

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If Hutch was stealing money, this could be a reference to that along with being a reference to Hutch letting Christian keep fucking Vivian. Again, if this is true, I don't think Hutch knows it is a dual reference.

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Problem #2, why is Vivian not outraged at Hutch, if he stole money?

1. If Vivian had been pressuring Hutch about money, she might blame herself for Hutch stealing.
2. Vivian might interpret Hutch's stealing as an act of love towards her and their son Sawyer.
3. Given their relationship, if Hutch wanted Sawyer to go to an affordable college, but Vivian wanted him to go to an expensive college, Vivian would get her way.
4. Hutch buying Vivian the expensive car might be an example of him trying to please her with expensive gifts.
5. If the above things are true, that would explain why Vivian is so emotional. It would even explain why she refers to Hutch as, "her poor sweet prince."

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Vivian clearly gets her way in the house. It possible the family's financial problems are the result of Hutch giving Vivian what she wants, or what he thinks she wants.

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It is possible that what Hutch says in the screenshot below is foreshadowing them getting concrete evidence against Hutch.

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Hutch is good with numbers. He might have thought that he was clever enough to syphon off a little bit of money here and there, but never get caught. I could see Christian telling Vivian this right before he fucked her. In this situation, Vivian could have agreed to fuck Christian to avoid Christian going to the authorities, or as payment since Christian did not go to the authorities. If this theory is correct, I could see Christian mentioning that the IT people found further evidence of Hutch embezzling on his computer or in his files.

If Vivian decided to have sex with Christian the first time beyond saving Hutch's his job, and her obvious attraction to Christian, what the reason is hasn't been made clear yet, but this is my attempt to understand what the reason might be. She is obviously still a cheater, and she loves male attention, but if there was something drastic that pushed her over the edge at Christian's house, I think something like this could be it.

Very interesting theory that sounds conclusive. If this is true then hutch is to blame for almost everything and there is little chance of him getting out of there.
My question where I have a lot of question marks is where was hutch when vivian was waiting for him at home? I think he has another secret that got him into this situation.
This story is full of ambiguity.
That's both good and bad. Most people have a weak ambiguity tolerance. We have difficulty dealing with and accepting uncertainties, contradictory courses of action and complexity in a situation. Such situations cause people to feel anxious and uncomfortable.
But that's why the story so far is so good and special.
 
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My question where I have a lot of question marks is where was hutch when vivian was waiting for him at home? I think he has another secret that got him into this situation.
He knew she was constantly lying to him about what happened that night, she keeps trying to act like everything is normal and you can see in the morning when he doesnt want to get out of bed he has had enough. So either he just needed to get out of there so he could think, or he was out planning something.

Hutch is not allowing this because he likes it, or wants to, he is giving her what she wants. There would be no doubt that she does after having to listen to the entire thing (with conversations) in the bathroom. Hutch is blindly hoping that his boss will get over his new toy and she can return to him.

He also knows that if he leaves his wife the game is over and she will also get dropped as it wont be as fun anymore without ruining someone elses life. Otherwise why would the boss tell him to go home to her, or talk him into staying together with the cheating bitch.
 

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Thank you for the thorough explanation, I understood that it is not rape. But in essence, it does not change what I meant - it is violence, spiritual violence. It is both sexual harassment and blackmail combined. And in this sense, the Boss, if not physically, then spiritually raped Vivian. But she chose it herself. So, is Vivian the victim? If so, why didn't she go home right away, and "in a state of deep psychological trauma" continued to flirt with the Boss and...? Damn, I got confused. Hehe, fun game.
Yeah, that’s what makes it so good. Humans are very complex, often conflicted beings. We have the capacity to be simultaneously revolted, but intrigued at the same time. I believe we are the only mammal that actually runs TOWARDS danger. Christian is a walking danger. Vivian is both repelled and attracted to him. Again, was she even “spiritually” raped? Did Christian sense something within her, something suppressed that ached to be released? It certainly seems so. I disagree with those who easily define her as a “slut” or “nympho.” Methinks that is to simplistic. There are more complex emotions at play here. That’s what makes this story so good, yet difficult to process at times.
 

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I loved it! It would be nice to see Vivian's reaction to learning that Hutch returned the favor, and all the consequences that would have on both her attitude and her marriage in general.

Also, Addison is willing to do anything for him...


 

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I had an idea this morning for a twist in the plot that would put a lot of things in this story in a different context. Up till now I was thinking that the reason Vivian fucked Christian was so that Hutch could keep his job. This is one reason why I found Vivian so unlikable. That is a very stupid reason to betray your husband of 22 years. This new theory not only puts Vivian's actions in a new light, but Christian is also slightly less vicious and sadistic (to be clear, he is still a scumbag). It also makes Hutch a little less sympathetic. The author said the backyard scene is key, and I got the impression there will be unexpected twists.

Imagine the scene in Christian's back yard where he first fucks Vivian. Just before he fucks her, he tells Vivian that Hutch losing the 2 clients was not the real reason he was going to fire Hutch. The real reason he was going to fire Hutch was that Hutch was embezzling money. He tells Vivian, that he used Hutch's loss of 2 clients as an excuse to fire Hutch without revealing the theft. Another possibility could be that he tells Vivian that Hutch's theft is related to why the company lost 2 clients. After this, when Christian saw how pretty Vivian was, he decided to take advantage of the situation.

There are several problems with the above theory, but I will try to address some of them. This is only a theory, and I could be 100% wrong. We will find out in the upcoming updates.

Problem #1, if this was the case, why didn't Christian have Hutch prosecuted, or at least confront him about the theft.

1. Hutch may have mentioned that he had a son in college, and may have given signs the family was struggling financially.
2. Despite Christian being a terrible person, Christian might not be sadistic enough to want to see Hutch go to prison. Maybe there is a shred of humanity in Christian.
3. The amount of money being stolen might be a lot for Hutch and Vivian, but be trivial for a businessman like Christian.
4. If he thought Hutch was stealing to take care of his family, he may have said to himself, "Sometimes people do the wrong thing for the right reasons... out of love." This puts the scene below in new context. If the theory is correct, and it may not be, Christian could also be referring here to Hutch's theft, not just Vivian fucking Christian. I don't think Hutch is aware of the dual reference.

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If Hutch was stealing money, this could be a reference to that along with being a reference to Hutch letting Christian keep fucking Vivian. Again, if this is true, I don't think Hutch knows it is a dual reference.

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Problem #2, why is Vivian not outraged at Hutch, if he stole money?

1. If Vivian had been pressuring Hutch about money, she might blame herself for Hutch stealing.
2. Vivian might interpret Hutch's stealing as an act of love towards her and their son Sawyer.
3. Given their relationship, if Hutch wanted Sawyer to go to an affordable college, but Vivian wanted him to go to an expensive college, Vivian would get her way.
4. Hutch buying Vivian the expensive car might be an example of him trying to please her with expensive gifts.
5. If the above things are true, that would explain why Vivian is so emotional. It would even explain why she refers to Hutch as, "her poor sweet prince."

View attachment 4656582

Vivian clearly gets her way in the house. It possible the family's financial problems are the result of Hutch giving Vivian what she wants, or what he thinks she wants.

View attachment 4656623
View attachment 4656632
It is possible that what Hutch says in the screenshot below is foreshadowing them getting concrete evidence against Hutch.

View attachment 4656649

Hutch is good with numbers. He might have thought that he was clever enough to syphon off a little bit of money here and there, but never get caught. I could see Christian telling Vivian this right before he fucked her. In this situation, Vivian could have agreed to fuck Christian to avoid Christian going to the authorities, or as payment since Christian did not go to the authorities. If this theory is correct, I could see Christian mentioning that the IT people found further evidence of Hutch embezzling on his computer or in his files.

If Vivian decided to have sex with Christian the first time beyond saving Hutch's his job, and her obvious attraction to Christian, what the reason is hasn't been made clear yet, but this is my attempt to understand what the reason might be. She is obviously still a cheater, and she loves male attention, but if there was something drastic that pushed her over the edge at Christian's house, I think something like this could be it.
there are a few loop holes in this argument that i feel should be addressed.
1. there are too many maybe/might be situations to make this theory. that in itself causes too many divirging story paths.

2. now to address you theory, hutch in the 6 years he worked with christian the office didn't know hutch was married let alone he had a wife, this is made clear by christians dialogue to vivian. as people when socialising usually talk about such stuff and in 6 years there must have been at least a few company gatherings which points to hutch keeping his family life secret from the entire office.

3. embezzling funds as intriguing as it sounds we are still vague on the cause of the loss of the clients. the most logical theory is that christian having fun with the wives of the clients which led to them withdrawing. this can be related to christians dialoge in the kitchen where he tells vivian he has had sex with various married women and then humiliated the husbands(not the exact words as am too lazy to dig up the text).

4. the most crucial part i dunno if anyone understood this, the dev(SC Stories ) always preempts what is going to happen in the story. like leaving breadcrumbs to what may happen in the future. for example the most basic being hutch telling vivian that he doesn't want her to meet the boss and she does it anyway. vivian telling hutch she will always support him but then gives him "the look" when hutch tries to make small talk before the backyard scene. when vivian tells hutch the boss took a lot from her and then at the bathroom she is enjoying what christian is doing to her. these are just a few instance that i can think but if you follow the dialogue there are more such hints for possible future events. which is also a 50-50 (but directly indication to the event) compared to the too many maybe situation to uphold 1 theory which make the embezzling theory susceptible to shaky foundation.

just to make things clear your theory is a possibility too but with too many variables. its like threading 10 needles in one attempt which is a very rare occurrence.

5. the posting of the pics if are posted in the proper story order and sticking to the facts of the story then the last set of images doesn't indicate anything was decided at that point. the shower image is where vivian knows she fucked up. and the conversation between hutch and christian is the author humanizing christian or the boss trying to manipulate a broken man into get his way like hutch repeated states about the boss.

vivian is not outraged because she knows it's her fault. there are multiple factors for this which are shown clearly by SC Stories by way of animations and expression and dialogue. we already have many people agreeing that vivian is the dominant one in their relationship and gets her way at home. she was under the impression she could get her way with the boss as well when she tell christian she was expecting a old man as the boss. vivian becoming submissive to christian's advances are a clear indication of vivian going down the slippery slope. which is one of many reasons she cannot become outraged.
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nice fanfic might be a possible ending , fingers crossed go team snarky secretary.
It would be interesting to see how quickly she bends over for the boss again, knowing now that Hutch was distancing himself from her because he knew all along, while she continued to lie to his face about it. Will she even resist or just accept it? Will the boss need to keep threatening his job each time? Even in the bathroom he has to use that again so that she gives in.
i posted about the coercion/manipulation of christian and how vivian is easy prey to it before... the kitchen scene at the dinner night christian tells vivian he didn't say anything about hutch's job and that it was all vivians assumptions and then follows it by saying she can stop if she wants to. someone else posted this before in this thread. might be dealbreaker not sure and the bathroom scene also it the same its not outright blackmail just suggestive hints at what might happen in case vivian doesn't comply and manipulating vivian accordingly to get what christian wants which he always gets by how hutch describes it.

in regards to future actions of vivian i stated 2 questions regarding that before similar to what you wrote..how far is vivian willing to go with the open marriage and if or when will she realize she has gone past the point of no return. and if hutch will be able to accept her back after all that she has done.
Yeah, that’s what makes it so good. Humans are very complex, often conflicted beings. We have the capacity to be simultaneously revolted, but intrigued at the same time. I believe we are the only mammal that actually runs TOWARDS danger. Christian is a walking danger. Vivian is both repelled and attracted to him. Again, was she even “spiritually” raped? Did Christian sense something within her, something suppressed that ached to be released? It certainly seems so. I disagree with those who easily define her as a “slut” or “nympho.” Methinks that is to simplistic. There are more complex emotions at play here. That’s what makes this story so good, yet difficult to process at times.
have to agree with some of those statements. don't think everyone defined vivians as a slut or nympho but you have already stated what most think is a possibility which is chrisitan testing vivian and figuring out the couple. yes there are lots of emotions at play layer on top of each other which makes it look complex as we jump between the pov of vivian and hutch which has made most(or just me) of us interested in the future outcomes
 
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there are a few loop holes in this argument that i feel should be addressed.
1. there are too many maybe/might be situations to make this theory. that in itself causes too many divirging story paths.

2. now to address you theory, hutch in the 6 years he worked with christian the office didn't know hutch was married let alone he had a wife, this is made clear by christians dialogue to vivian. as people when socialising usually talk about such stuff and in 6 years there must have been at least a few company gatherings which points to hutch keeping his family life secret from the entire office.

3. embezzling funds as intriguing as it sounds we are still vague on the cause of the loss of the clients. the most logical theory is that christian having fun with the wives of the clients which led to them withdrawing. this can be related to christians dialoge in the kitchen where he tells vivian he has had sex with various married women and then humiliated the husbands(not the exact words as am too lazy to dig up the text).

4. the most crucial part i dunno if anyone understood this, the dev(SC Stories ) always preempts what is going to happen in the story. like leaving breadcrumbs to what may happen in the future. for example the most basic being hutch telling vivian that he doesn't want her to meet the boss and she does it anyway. vivian telling hutch she will always support him but then gives him "the look" when hutch tries to make small talk before the backyard scene. when vivian tells hutch the boss took a lot from her and then at the bathroom she is enjoying what christian is doing to her. these are just a few instance that i can think but if you follow the dialogue there are more such hints for possible future events. which is also a 50-50 (but directly indication to the event) compared to the too many maybe situation to uphold 1 theory which make the embezzling theory susceptible to shaky foundation.

just to make things clear your theory is a possibility too but with too many variables. its like threading 10 needles in one attempt which is a very rare occurrence.

5. the posting of the pics if are posted in the proper story order and sticking to the facts of the story then the last set of images doesn't indicate anything was decided at that point. the shower image is where vivian knows she fucked up. and the conversation between hutch and christian is the author humanizing christian or the boss trying to manipulate a broken man into get his way like hutch repeated states about the boss.

vivian is not outraged because she knows it's her fault. there are multiple factors for this which are shown clearly by SC Stories by way of animations and expression and dialogue. we already have many people agreeing that vivian is the dominant one in their relationship and gets her way at home. she was under the impression she could get her way with the boss as well when she tell christian she was expecting a old man as the boss. vivian becoming submissive to christian's advances are a clear indication of vivian going down the slippery slope. which is one of many reasons she cannot become outraged.

nice fanfic might be a possible ending , fingers crossed go team snarky secretary.

i posted about the coercion/manipulation of christian and how vivian is easy prey to it before... the kitchen scene at the dinner night christian tells vivian he didn't say anything about hutch's job and that it was all vivians assumptions and then follows it by saying she can stop if she wants to. someone else posted this before in this thread. might be dealbreaker not sure and the bathroom scene also it the same its not outright blackmail just suggestive hints at what might happen in case vivian doesn't comply and manipulating vivian accordingly to get what christian wants which he always gets by how hutch describes it.

in regards to future actions of vivian i stated 2 questions regarding that before similar to what you wrote..how far is vivian willing to go with the open marriage and if or when will she realize she has gone past the point of no return. and if hutch will be able to accept her back after all that she has done.

have to agree with some of those statements. don't think everyone defined vivians as a slut or nympho but you have already stated what most think is a possibility which is chrisitan testing vivian and figuring out the couple. yes there are lots of emotions at play layer on top of each other which makes it look complex as we jump between the pov of vivian and hutch which has made most(or just me) of us interested in the future outcomes
My theory is just a theory. Since SC Stories indicated that the scene in Christian's backyard is foundational to the story, I was trying to think of a potential scenario where Vivian having sex with Christian so quickly made more sense. Christian did make it clear that Hutch told him he was married, but Christian said he thought Hutch was making it up.

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One reason why I came up with this is because I think SC Stories could be planning on surprising us by flipping things on their head. I am in no way saying this definitely what is going on, but sometimes good writers trick the audience by leading them down one path only to flip things on them later. That Christian says he thought maybe Hutch was making it up, does cast doubt on Christian not going after Hutch because he thought Hutch was stealing to benefit his family. Christian does however say, "I thought MAYBE he was making it up." This means he did think it was a possibility. Since SC Stories hinted that the conversation in the backyard leading up to Vivian first fucking Christian is so important, I don't see a how something other than a revelation like this would be giving us more than what we know about why Vivian fucked Christian.
 
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