Chaoticjustice

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for me if the dev simply makes a few scenes where the boss and vivian bang then hutchy and wifey cry professing there love for each other it is rinse wash and repeat. you can just watch this update over an over cause nothing would change.. the only way to further progress the VN is for vivian to truly not care about hutchy but stay married to him because the boss is a sadistic cunt and enjoys cucking married men like hutchy .. its the only way to add further emotion and drama.. why is the boss always convincing hutchy that he should stay with wifey .. if he truly wanted them divorced he would just take vivian from hutchy . vivian clearly is in love with the boss and wants to be with him. she just feels like shit for doing hutchy raw .. in the next episode i dont think she will that bad about it anymore. she will start to enjoy hutchy's misery and get off on it
I get where your coming from 100% but even for a porn game and even if you applied porn logic I just don't see how she could throw 22 years of marriage and how ever long dating before hand fully away so swiftly and just do that to him and walk away

Again this will factor in the the fact I play these as if I was watching a TV show or movie so I need to buy into the story as well , like yes it can't be 100% accurate but at least somewhat believable if that makes sense
 

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I get where your coming from 100% but even for a porn game and even if you applied porn logic I just don't see how she could throw 22 years of marriage and how ever long dating before hand fully away so swiftly and just do that to him and walk away
in the end scene she says "did christian really know my husband better than i do" think about that statement she thought .. that is vivian justifying that it is okay to cheat.. it is CLEAR hutch is miserable an dying inside. you can see the pain hutchy is going thru yet vivian is thinking about how christian is manipulating them and agreeing to cheat .. then she wants hutch with them to make sure the boss doesnt do anything inappropriate.. HELLOOOOOOOOOOO she knows the boss is going to try to bang her with hutch there and she wants hutch there for the front row seat to watch cause she gets off on it also .. its all there in her thought if pay close enough attention to it.. again why would dev have hutch there watching it everytime when they could just get a room an no one would ever know.. just my thoughts lol
 
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I highly doubt Viv is humiliating her hubby intentionally. It seems to be natural reactions emanating from coercion and the great sex. I can give examples, but if you've played the game, you won't need them. She's going to turn him into a pitiful cuckold, then the intentional part comes in.
 
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I highly doubt Viv is humiliating her hubby intentionally. It seems to be natural reactions emanating from coercion and the great sex. I can give examples, but if you've played the game, you won't need them. She's going to turn him into a pitiful cuckold, then the intentional part comes in.
i can agree with that to some degree .. good point
 

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in the end scene she says "did christian really know my husband better than i do" think about that statement she thought .. that is vivian justifying that it is okay to cheat.. it is CLEAR hutch is miserable an dying inside. you can see the pain hutchy is going thru yet vivian is thinking about how christian is manipulating them and agreeing to cheat .. then she wants hutch with them to make sure the boss doesnt do anything inappropriate.. HELLOOOOOOOOOOO she knows the boss is going to try to bang her with hutch there and she wants hutch there for the front row seat to watch cause she gets off on it also .. its all there in her thought if pay close enough attention to it.. again why would dev have there watching it everytime when they could just get a room an no one would ever know.. just my thoughts lol
Again some solid points but at the end of the day as much as we may want certain things to happen it's in the hands of the Dev so we will have to wait and see

The only things I would like to see at the start of the next update is 1, I think hutch should be like you say you love me but do you understand how disrespectful it was to bang my boss so loudly with me in the next room sort of thing and 2, the open relationship there has to be some rules or boundaries set outside of I don't wanna hear about it , cause if there isn't it's likely to be an absolute cum massacre and will likely go down a very bad route for hutch , I think someone mentioned it before but for me Vivian isnt to draw to me in this game , I'm more interested in hutch's story and how it develops personally I don't like Vivian at all as a character so if she leaves hutch good riddance to her
 

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Again some solid points but at the end of the day as much as we may want certain things to happen it's in the hands of the Dev so we will have to wait and see

The only things I would like to see at the start of the next update is 1, I think hutch should be like you say you love me but do you understand how disrespectful it was to bang my boss so loudly with me in the next room sort of thing and 2, the open relationship there has to be some rules or boundaries set outside of I don't wanna hear about it , cause if there isn't it's likely to be an absolute cum massacre and will likely go down a very bad route for hutch , I think someone mentioned it before but for me Vivian isnt to draw to me in this game , I'm more interested in hutch's story and how it develops personally I don't like Vivian at all as a character so if she leaves hutch good riddance to her
i can agree with alot of your points but everytime knowing hutch is in the same house or office she doesnt care and willingly has sex with the boss.. it is just hard for me to believe she loves hutch more than she loves the sex with the boss.. why ? because of the choice she makes everytime .. all she has to say to the boss is lets meet at a hotel room.. but instead she give the boss what he wants, where he wants , when he wants
 

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i can agree with alot of your points but everytime knowing hutch is in the same house or office she doesnt care and willingly has sex with the boss.. it is just hard for me to believe she loves hutch more than she loves the sex with the boss.. why ? because of the choice she makes every time .. all she has to say to the boss is lets meet at a hotel room.. but instead she give the boss what he wants, where he wants , when he wants
Duke... I think this boils down to the blackmail... Did she have the sex in the garden by force from Christian or volunteered . Either way it was because of the possible loos of Hutch job. Once that happened ... Christian keep the pressure on to sleep with him. At that point I think she did not like him as is evident in the text... but she went with the sex...she was 50/50 on that. like dislike
 

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Duke... I think this boils down to the blackmail... Did she have the sex in the garden by force from Christian or volunteered . Either way it was because of the possible loos of Hutch job. Once that happened ... Christian keep the pressure on to sleep with him. At that point I think she did not like him as is evident in the text... but she went with the sex...she was 50/50 on that. like dislike
hutch made it very clear in the beginning he didnt want her there. hutch knew what the boss would do. that was hutch making a clear decision he did not want to sacrifice his wife to keep his job. you cant blackmail someone that is willing and enjoying the sex . she fullfilled the boss's wish and he still tried threatening hutch's job. its clear the boss was using blackmail to bang the wife your right.. now before any of the sex began if she had sat hutch down and explained everything an let hutch make the decision if she should bang the boos then that would be on hutch.. did she? did she talk to hutch? did she ask hutch first? no she didnt. she is a big girl, let her handle it she said.. that means it isnt blackmail. it is her making the choice to willingly give the boss anything he wants because it is what she wants to do without hutch's say or approval .. and she loved every inch of it all night long as many times as he could give it to her .. came out of the bedroom almost naked exhausted from the best sex she has had an wanted .. in the shower she admitted it to .. she liked it .. and she got more of it
 
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Personally .... I think in the backyard she said... look I know what you want I'll let you fuck me if you let Hutch keep his job...She volunteered but... it car a coercion of a job loss threat. As for the bedroom... the way they disagreed about sleeping in the BR .. to me says she was not wanting it... but she gave that look to Hutch as she went in and basically said...ok fuck me.....
 

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Personally .... I think in the backyard she said... look I know what you want I'll let you fuck me if you let Hutch keep his job...She volunteered but... it car a coercion of a job loss threat. As for the bedroom... the way they disagreed about sleeping in the BR .. to me says she was not wanting it... but she gave that look to Hutch as she went in and basically said...ok fuck me.....
i think you need to replay the VN a couple more times lol
 

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Personally .... I think in the backyard she said... look I know what you want I'll let you fuck me if you let Hutch keep his job...She volunteered but... it car a coercion of a job loss threat. As for the bedroom... the way they disagreed about sleeping in the BR .. to me says she was not wanting it... but she gave that look to Hutch as she went in and basically said...ok fuck me.....
She both fancies and wants Christian, that was clear from the moment they met tbh. She gives the weakest attempts at resistance or no resistance at all and easily falls for Christians charms.
While I also think there was an element of Vivian feeling like she was fucking Christian for Hutch and his job, she definitely wanted to IMO. Even if she can't admit that to herself just yet.
 

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I highly doubt Viv is humiliating her hubby intentionally. It seems to be natural reactions emanating from coercion and the great sex. I can give examples, but if you've played the game, you won't need them. She's going to turn him into a pitiful cuckold, then the intentional part comes in.
Yeah, it's gonna be a slippery slope situation. She's already getting railed by Christian and with their newly "open" marriage Vivian is eventually going to start looking down on Hutch either when she starts noticing how many men are coming onto her or how many men are coming into her. I expect that sooner or later she won't be able to help herself but to start pitying her pathetic mess of a husband, especially if she keeps getting whatever men she wants while he gets no one.
 

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I go to sleep, and wake up to 5 pages of new posts... good job guys :)


I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.
I've become aware that Hutch is also always sad or angry. How about a few happy snaps of him too :)

so he knows she's cheating and he sort of likes it or is battling the demons on if he likes it but she doesn't know he feels this way hence why it's not a traditional cuck situation if that makes sense
There is no indication that i can determine that Hutch is enjoying any of this. Him pulling away from her when she is trying to kiss him or hold his hand is a good indication. Hopefully this will stay true, and it wont devolve into one of those typical shitty NTR games "Oh my wife is fucking someone else... why is my pee pee getting hard? oh i just came..." Barf!!

In Terms of scenarios for the ending, I'll re-link my suggested ones.
memory lane theories
and a slight continuation for the dark ending
 
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I go to sleep, and wake up to 5 pages of new posts... good job guys :)




I've become aware that Hutch is also always sad or angry. How about a few happy snaps of him too :)



There is no indication that i can determine that Hutch is enjoying any of this. Him pulling away from her when she is trying to kiss him or hold his hand is a good indication. Hopefully this will stay true, and it wont devolve into one of those typical shitty NTR games "Oh my wife is fucking someone else... why is my pee pee getting hard? oh i just came..." Barf!!

In Terms of scenarios for the ending, I'll re-link my suggested ones.
memory lane theories
and a slight continuation for the dark ending
A justice porn ending would make me cringe (n)
 

JoeBlogs

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Could you explain this better? What do you mean by that? I know it's Hutch's clothing, but I don't understand why it's not good to sniff.
It's Christian's. She is smelling his clothes to remind her of their sex-scapade the night before. Not a good sign.
 
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