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I do have a genuine question for those into the hard NTR , so it would appear that games where the MC is the one who suffers from the NTR are the most popular rather than the MC being the one that inflicts the NTR and I'm just curious to why that is or what the draw is for it to be that way

Obviously it goes without saying I'm not kink shaming anyone if that's what there into just trying to get a better understanding
TheDuke9999 i feel like this the one for you care to help with my question
 

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TheDuke9999 i feel like this the one for you care to help with my question
that is simple . when it comes to hardcore ntr the dynamic is different. no one enjoys the cheerleader hubby and honestly that is more like swinging than ntr. the hardcore ntr envokes a different kind of emotion where you go thru this pain and suffering but somewhere you also get off on it. you dont know why but you cant stop it either. you want to stop it but for some reason you also enjoy it. might come from when you love a woman so much you want to be the king but when another lion shows you your not , you watch wishing you were him and you love your woman so much you dont want to deny her that pleasure.. problem is there is a fine line between lust an love and they often get confused and in the end the wife leaves and the hubby drinks himself into the abyss.. time to play summer's gone for the 152nd time waiting for that update lol
 
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that is simple . when it comes to hardcore ntr the dynamic is different. no one enjoys the cheerleader hubby and honestly that is more like swinging than ntr. the hardcore ntr envokes a different kind of emotion where you go thru this pain and suffering but somewhere you also get off on it. you dont know why but you cant stop it either. you want to stop it but for some reason you also enjoy it. might come from when you love a woman so much you want to be the king but when another lion shows you your not , you watch wishing you were him and you love your woman so much you dont want to deny her that pleasure.. problem is there is a fine line between lust an love and they often get confused and in the end the wife leaves and the hubby drinks himself into the abyss..
So for NTR fans is it more about witnessing the pain that's been inflicted rather than directly inflicting it? Which if so I quite interesting as I would of thought it was the other way around , which I'd imagine is the case the in real life but why does that transfer to games of that nature i would imagine that inflicting the pain in a game doesn't come with the same sort of satisfaction or buzz that it would in real life so the next best thing is to witness the pain be inflicted?
 

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So for NTR fans is it more about witnessing the pain that's been inflicted rather than directly inflicting it? Which if so I quite interesting as I would of thought it was the other way around , which I'd imagine is the case the in real life but why does that transfer to games of that nature i would imagine that inflicting the pain in a game doesn't come with the same sort of satisfaction or buzz that it would in real life so the next best thing is to witness the pain be inflicted?
i would say to be the one inflicting it is exciting in a different way because your the king . you own it. but that is only for ego driven douchebags that are self centered and only care about another notch on the belt. the challenge . once the challenge is over they look for new prey until someone stops them
 

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i would say to be the one inflicting it is exciting in a different way because your the king . you own it. but that is only for ego driven douchebags that are self centered and only care about another notch on the belt. the challenge . once the challenge is over they look for new prey until someone stops them
Interesting so do you mean ego driven douchebags in real life and those who play the games that way?

So I guess the Millon dollar question is what do you get from seeing someone else in pain as a third party , like what draws you in about it , is it like a power by proxy sort of thing?

Like I could see the appeal to people that have been victims of NTR themselves enjoying witnessing someone else in pain as it's not then this time it's like a release or a relief to them almost like aww thank god it's not me sort of thing

So for context il elaborate when I tend to gravitate to the husband/partner that's the victim and honestly it's really pretty simple I've always been a sucker for an underdog , be it films , TV shows ,sport , games you name it I part of me can't help but wanna root for the underdog

Like I don't project myself into the position of the character or anything like that , as it does absolutely nothing for me I tend to view it almost like it's David Vs Goliath haha
 

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Interesting so do you mean ego driven douchebags in real life and those who play the games that way?

So I guess the Millon dollar question is what do you get from seeing someone else in pain as a third party , like what draws you in about it , is it like a power by proxy sort of thing?

Like I could see the appeal to people that have been victims of NTR themselves enjoying witnessing someone else in pain as it's not then this time it's like a release or a relief to them almost like aww thank god it's not me sort of thing

So for context il elaborate when I tend to gravitate to the husband/partner that's the victim and honestly it's really pretty simple I've always been a sucker for an underdog , be it films , TV shows ,sport , games you name it I part of me can't help but wanna root for the underdog

Like I don't project myself into the position of the character or anything like that , as it does absolutely nothing for me I tend to view it almost like it's David Vs Goliath haha
i think because its fantasy at this point because in real life even the weakest man would have just left vivian at this point , for me its what is the dev going to do next type thing for the VN . like how wild can the dev get because again its all fantasy now. and yes there is a part of me that would love to see hutch somehow kick christain in the sack, throw vivian to the curb an bang the niece as he takes over the company but i dont think thats how this VN is going to go lol
 
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i think because its fantasy at this point because in real life even the weakest man would have just left vivian at this point , for me its what is the dev going to do next type thing for the VN . like how wild can the dev get because again its all fantasy now. and yes there is a part of me that would love to see hutch somehow kick christain in the sack, throw vivian to the curb an bang the niece as he takes over the company but i dont think thats how this VN is going to go lol
That's really interesting so I would assume your taste in avns is purely NTR driven then?

I also get the fantasy element of it that why I try to play these as if I was watching a movie or TV show but every now and again that want to root for the underdog creeps in haha

Also since you enjoy how wild it can get I would recommend my Italian slut wife it is fucking chaos haha
 

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That's really interesting so I would assume your taste in avns is purely NTR driven then?

Also since you enjoy how wild it can get I would recommend my Italian slut wife it is fucking chaos haha
yeah my italian slut is a good one but honestly my favorite VN"S are summers gone, wiab, mbml, sicae, single again, mnm, mnf, companion of darkness, the falling reloaded, tfs, and leap of faith is awesome too.. oh chasing sunset, aura colors , the nature of magic etcc.. sorry long list
 

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i think because its fantasy at this point because in real life even the weakest man would have just left vivian at this point , for me its what is the dev going to do next type thing for the VN . like how wild can the dev get because again its all fantasy now. and yes there is a part of me that would love to see hutch somehow kick christain in the sack, throw vivian to the curb an bang the niece as he takes over the company but i dont think thats how this VN is going to go lol
I would say that some men may find a forgiveness for cheating the first time.... but to witness a second time .... that would be get your things and get out. THat shows a pattern that may not stop.
 

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yeah my italian slut is a good one but honestly my favorite VN"S are summers gone, wiab, mbml, sicae, single again, mnm, mnf, companion of darkness, the falling reloaded, tfs, and leap of faith is awesome too.. oh chasing sunset, aura colors , the nature of magic etcc.. sorry long list
Well I owe you an apology duke there was me thinking you where solely NTR driven haha more to you than meets the eye , tho I do think it's one of those things that it's either for you or it isn't , for me with the NTR games if I know it isn't going to be an underdog story which it normally isn't it's the story that keeps me so I like to see how mental it gets or if it has a really good script that will keep me at it so at that stage I tolerate the ntr as I don't fully get or I haven't got into the fantasy of it the story will be enough for me if it's crazy enough or well written
 

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I would say that some men may find a forgiveness for cheating the first time.... but to witness a second time .... that would be get your things and get out. THat shows a pattern that may not stop.
I would imagine so , I've always had a one and done approach if you've done it once you'll do it again now beat it , thankfully I've never been in that situation but that how I'd deal with it
 

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So for NTR fans is it more about witnessing the pain that's been inflicted rather than directly inflicting it? Which if so I quite interesting as I would of thought it was the other way around , which I'd imagine is the case the in real life but why does that transfer to games of that nature i would imagine that inflicting the pain in a game doesn't come with the same sort of satisfaction or buzz that it would in real life so the next best thing is to witness the pain be inflicted?
Going to wade in here a moment. NTR is a catch all phrase that encompasses three concepts: Netorare, netorase and Netori. The term “cuck”is also thrown around and, apart from the textbook definition meaning the person being cheated on, in common parlance means a guy who gets off seeing his girl getting plowed by another. Unfortunately, Netorare/netorase(sharing)/cuck get all mashed together. It is a matter of distinctions - Netorare is “the taking of another” and usually involves coercion, blackmail or impaired decision making on behalf of the woman. The husband/bf isn’t present when this happens. I find this titillating. Unlike many I do not self-identify with the husband/bf in these scenarios. So, from a voyeur perspective I find it satisfying. It probably has something to do with control and taboo. Like all preferred fetishes, it probably stems from childhood trauma and/or experiences. While I suppose I am hardcore NTR (Netorare), I dislike cuck where the husband/bf is in the same room whacking it as his LI gets railed. I find cuck/humiliation even less appealing. This Kinetic Novel skirts the line between Netorare and netorase. I have politely argued with a few here that Hutch is not a cuck in the common sense - as of yet he does not seem to actively try to get off on seeing Vivian and Christian hide the salami. Maybe this will change in future updates. Anyhow, long ass way to set the parameters to answer your question.
 
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Going to wade in here a moment. NTR is a catch all phrase that encompasses three concepts: Netorare, netorase and Netori. The term “cuck”is also thrown around and, apart from the textbook definition meaning the person being cheated on, in common parlance means a guy who gets off seeing his girl getting plowed by another. Unfortunately, Netorare/netorase(sharing)/cuck get all mashed together. It is a matter of distinctions - Netorare is “the taking of another” and usually involves coercion, blackmail or impaired decision making on behalf of the woman. The husband/bf isn’t present when this happens. I find this titillating. Unlike many I do not self-identify with the husband/bf in these scenarios. So, from a voyeur perspective I find it satisfying. It probably has something to do with control and taboo. Like all preferred fetishes, it probably stems from childhood trauma and/or experiences. While I suppose I am hardcore NTR (Netorare), I dislike cuck where the husband/bf is in the same room whacking it as his LI gets railed. I find cuck/humiliation even less appealing. This Kinetic Novel skirts the line between Netorare and netorase. I have politely argued with a few here that Hutch is not a cuck in the common sense - as of yet he does not seem to actively try to get off on seeing Vivian and Christian hide the salami. Maybe this will change in future updates. Anyhow, long ass way to set the parameters to answer your question.
This really helps I had never considered the voyuer aspect netorare but now that you haven't mentioned it I can see how it makes sense

The whole cuck situation does absolutely nothing for me I personally don't see the appeal in real life and in games to me they always feel incredibly poorly written and forced on you - so for example it will start that the male has an interest in it and they will try it out and then confide with his partner that he's not actually sure it's for him then the partner essentially gaslights him into it saying something like it's ok love I know you like it you can be open with me and the male is like ok if you say so or something along those lines

I would agree with about hutch and the cuck situation the only difference is I don't class him as a cuck I see it for him that he sees this as a necessary evil to keep Vivian sort of thing , now that could still fit in to the cuck aspect of things as my knowledge of NTR is limited hence why I want a better understanding.. but moving on because of my view on it I personally choose not to tar him with the cuck brush so to speak haha
 
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