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As previously stated in this forum,
Everything that happens is subject to the viewer's interpretation. We don't have enough information at this stage of the game.
That's where this KN is good. It's very emotional (both for the viewer and for the KN characters). On the other hand, it has the intelligence not to get too explanatory (especially in the phases when the characters are talking to themselves). In some games, the characters talk to themselves + the author adds an emotional explanation (in case you didn't understand). This adds an enormous amount of weight to the narrative.
Here, the same sentences by Vivian can be interpreted in many different ways (perhaps even too many).
It's not easy to place the cursor in the right place.
But that's the strength of this first part. If everything were explained and easy to understand, there would be 50 pages in this forum.
 

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Sure, it's possible that Addison has knowledge - she is close enough to build a picture, to a degree - and she may be keeping records. At this point, it's something else that I'm not theorising though. If nothing else, purely because the story is a lot simpler than I'm sure most of the theories suggest it will be.
I would agree but I also don't think it's just going to end up as your average run of the mill NTR game , all theories aside I have no clue to how it's gonna play out in the end the only thing I would say as it stands and untill we know more from future updates I would say it's all to play for and that we can't rule anything out until something in the game definitively says otherwise
 
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I would agree but I also don't think it's just going to end up as your average run of the mill NTR game , all theories aside I have no clue to how it's gonna play out in the end the only thing I would say as it stands and untill we know more from future updates I would say it's all to play for and that we can't rule anything out until something in the game definitively says otherwise
Keeping in mind the "simple game" part of it, I agree 100% with all of this :ROFLMAO:
 
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Here's a cool fact shared by Sparta158 – in the original version, the first conversation in the office was different (it had a different ending, one kiss, etc.). We can assume that this founding scene caused quite a bit of trouble* for SC Stories, and they tried it in several variations.

TonyMurray
As for Addison and the meeting in the blue suit – on one hand, Addison might have already been used to the visits of "various women" to Chris's office (this also gives context to the scene with the bed and explains Hutch's reluctance to bring his wife to the company), which could explain her irritation. On the other hand, it’s also possible – though we don’t know for sure – that as the secretary, Addison should have been the first to arrive at work. Perhaps she had already seen Vivian earlier (from that first meeting), without Vivian and Chris noticing her.


*I assume that it's really important for the viewer to understand the strong impression Chris made on Vivian.
 
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Keeping in mind the "simple game" part of it, I agree 100% with all of this :ROFLMAO:
By simple game part of it I assume that you mean that it's either going end up going one way or another and that it won't be like this sort of blockbuster ending situation haha which I would agree and let's say for the sake of argument it has two potential endings one good and one bad , what I mean by I don't think it end like most NTR is I don't think it will be like a generic good or bad ending , yes obviously there are certain limitations to what can happen with the ending without going to extremes but I don't think it will be a simple ending of she's leaves him for Christian or they stay together and it's all happy families, hopefully this makes sense even as I was writing it I knew what I wanted to say in my head but trying to put that into a half decent structure or wording was a different story haha
 

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By simple game part of it I assume that you mean that it's either going end up going one way or another and that it won't be like this sort of blockbuster ending situation haha which I would agree and let's say for the sake of argument it has two potential endings one good and one bad , what I mean by I don't think it end like most NTR is I don't think it will be like a generic good or bad ending , yes obviously there are certain limitations to what can happen with the ending without going to extremes but I don't think it will be a simple ending of she's leaves him for Christian or they stay together and it's all happy families, hopefully this makes sense even as I was writing it I knew what I wanted to say in my head but trying to put that into a half decent structure or wording was a different story haha
By "simple game" I just mean that it's relatively straightforward overall, and that there's always been a lot of microanalysis and complex theory building in this thread which don't necessarily sit so well with that. Obviously I have no idea what is going to happen next, or at any time between now and the end of the game, but a simple story can be really well done, and that is what we're seeing here so far, and that in turn lends itself to all of that theory building.
 
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I assume that it's really important for the viewer to understand the strong impression Chris made on Vivian.
I can't help myself, something in me somehow always revolts against this personalization of her attraction. I rather like to think of the boss in relation to Vivian as a replacable guy who is simply there in the right position and situation at the right time in order to get her. Nothing about aura or charisma (I can't see it) or personality. No special connection on that level. No first impression. Just function and power and her projections. I could be wrong though. There are arguments possible in both directions, but given how unmotivated and quick and completely without context her first reaction in the office is, almost automatic rather than personally-emotionally captivated or swept away...
 
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not her attr. - his ;)


The strong impression Chris made on Vivian – it was she who lost her footing.

That's why SC added another kiss/changed the ending of the meeting. It's clear that she simply has "weak knees" from the experience.

In the firstl version, as she was leaving, she throws in a strong comment.

In the final version, she simply leaves stunned, and in the car, she starts to recover.
 
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not her attr. - his ;)


The strong impression Chris made on Vivian – it was she who lost her footing.

That's why SC added another kiss/changed the ending of the meeting. It's clear that she simply has "weak knees" from the experience.

In the firstl version, as she was leaving, she throws in a strong comment.

In the final version, she simply leaves stunned, and in the car, she starts to recover.
The only thing I would of liked done slightly differently with the start is I wish it was a bit more of a slow burn to it rather than instantly caving to him and swooning like a school girl within 15 minutes of meeting him
 

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Here's a cool fact shared by Sparta158 – in the original version, the first conversation in the office was different (it had a different ending, one kiss, etc.). We can assume that this founding scene caused quite a bit of trouble* for SC Stories, and they tried it in several variations.

*I assume that it's really important for the viewer to understand the strong impression Chris made on Vivian.
Okay, I've had a brief look, but I can't see anything about this, where is it from please?
 

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I meant it when I said WOW before... this is the energizer bunny of threads. I am not a professional writer. I don't even consider myself an amateur writer. As stated before I wanted to write a story for myself and so I sat down with a known story arc and basic character motivations and started writing. I simply tried to put myself in the shoes of each character and write from their mindset when they spoke or acted. What I crapped out turned out better than I hoped. I wish I could say I meticulously planned out every detail discussed here, but the fact is the nuanced events and dialogs that are talked about here mostly happened organically. Just evolving into what it is over time as I wrote, added, rewrote and evolved the script into what it is today. I never set out specifically to add X here so that Y happens there. It wasn't until seeing you guys starting to analyze it that I started to appreciate my own creation. Maybe that comes off as conceited and I'm sure some would argue I write worse than a retarded monkey, but what I mean to say is - thank you. Thank you for making me feel good about my story. Thank you for making me feel good about my dark and depressing story that is going to get much worse.


Chapter vs Release vs Version
For now I will try to stick to calling these by version number (0.2,0.4,etc). I haven't decided if I will publish as a stand alone game, in which case I'll call them chapters, or as a complete (to date) game. The only thing stopping me from releasing a stand alone update is that every broken up game I've ever seen here is a confusing mess of naming conventions, groupings hidden under spoiler tags, and other nonsensical formatting. I would like to think calling them Chaper 1, Chapter 2, along with an in game title page stating 'hey this is chapter 2, go download chapter 1 if you haven't' would work... but I'm not so sure. I'm all about eye candy and I really... really... don't want to compress my game. v0.2 has over 600MB just in animations. That could be 2GB by then end of the game, plus 20k renders, and trying to compress than into 10GB or maybe even 5gb file? Anyway, still thinking about the best solution.

Version 0.4
It's on track for a mid to late May release as originally planned. I've got 2k renders done with probably about another 1k to go, not including the sexy scenes which still need animating. Compared to v0.2, it looks like total play time will be less than the first one. v0.2 had 6 games days but only 5 with significant content and 5k of images. v0.4 is 6 and 4 with 3k(probably) images. I could include more game days to match the size of v0.2 but this will end at a natural break point. As mentioned this is a Vivian heavy update with the next one(v0.6) picking up with a lot more Hutch content right from the start. v0.4 will answer some questions and develop the story, but v0.6 is where the pain begins.

Porn Logic
I had a really long rant about this but I scratched it and I'll simply say this: It's a story. All stories are unrealistic to a degree but that's what makes it entertaining. I feel my 'leaps of faith' are easier to swallow than most Hollywood movies. 'Pitch meeting' and 'The Critical Thinker' on YT show just how shitty Hollywood is. But they entertain nonetheless.

Is Hutch so adamant for Vivian to take this "project" because he feels trapped by Christian holding his job hostage ? Or is Hutch just resigned because he saw how much Vivian is actually enjoying it and is slowly letting her go to what he thinks (and he'd be right) she really want ? Or is he simply gaslighted by Christian with his "The man of the house endure and shut his pain" ? Or maybe all of the above.... I just want to understand properly, that'll help me for understanding the dynamics moving forward.[/
Just to speak to this for a moment - YES. That is the short answer to your questions. It's up to you to see WHAT he does then decide for yourself WHY he did it. This thread is a couple hundred pages of people answering that. But to expand on this just a little, despite her screen time, I do not consider Vivian to be the main character. Hutch does not get an inner monologue on purpose. I think v0.6 is a much more interesting part of the story and I think is what most of you really want. We'll get there in time. The good news is that about of quarter of that is already done and being Hutch focused, it's easier to render. The bad news is, after this update, I will need to slow down a little. I'm rushing to get this one done to sort of 'cement' the story, and, as a non initial release, get more attention from people holding off. I almost never download initial releases as they typically have little content and often quickly abandoned. I suspect there are plenty others like me.

Again, thank you to everyone.


No sneak peaks but I'll include just some old eye candy renders I've done in the past.
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This one I'm particularly proud of. I know most of you don't use Daz but I made this without any post work. It was one render from Daz using mirrors. It was inspired but the music video Late Night Feelins by Mark Ronson.
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Okay... edited to include a gratuitous titty shot for Packard
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Here's a cool fact shared by Sparta158 – in the original version, the first conversation in the office was different (it had a different ending, one kiss, etc.). We can assume that this founding scene caused quite a bit of trouble* for SC Stories, and they tried it in several variations.

TonyMurray
As for Addison and the meeting in the blue suit – on one hand, Addison might have already been used to the visits of "various women" to Chris's office (this also gives context to the scene with the bed and explains Hutch's reluctance to bring his wife to the company), which could explain her irritation. On the other hand, it’s also possible – though we don’t know for sure – that as the secretary, Addison should have been the first to arrive at work. Perhaps she had already seen Vivian earlier (from that first meeting), without Vivian and Chris noticing her.


*I assume that it's really important for the viewer to understand the strong impression Chris made on Vivian.
not her attr. - his ;)


The strong impression Chris made on Vivian – it was she who lost her footing.

That's why SC added another kiss/changed the ending of the meeting. It's clear that she simply has "weak knees" from the experience.

In the firstl version, as she was leaving, she throws in a strong comment.

In the final version, she simply leaves stunned, and in the car, she starts to recover.
WTF are you guys talking about?
 

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I meant it when I said WOW before... this is the energizer bunny of threads. I am not a professional writer. I don't even consider myself an amateur writer. As stated before I wanted to write a story for myself and so I sat down with a known story arc and basic character motivations and started writing. I simply tried to put myself in the shoes of each character and write from their mindset when they spoke or acted. What I crapped out turned out better than I hoped. I wish I could say I meticulously planned out every detail discussed here, but the fact is the nuanced events and dialogs that are talked about here mostly happened organically. Just evolving into what it is over time as I wrote, added, rewrote and evolved the script into what it is today. I never set out specifically to add X here so that Y happens there. It wasn't until seeing you guys starting to analyze it that I started to appreciate my own creation. Maybe that comes off as conceited and I'm sure some would argue I write worse than a retarded monkey, but what I mean to say is - thank you. Thank you for making me feel good about my story. Thank you for making me feel good about my dark and depressing story that is going to get much worse.


Chapter vs Release vs Version
For now I will try to stick to calling these by version number (0.2,0.4,etc). I haven't decided if I will publish as a stand alone game, in which case I'll call them chapters, or as a complete (to date) game. The only thing stopping me from releasing a stand alone update is that every broken up game I've ever seen here is a confusing mess of naming conventions, groupings hidden under spoiler tags, and other nonsensical formatting. I would like to think calling them Chaper 1, Chapter 2, along with an in game title page stating 'hey this is chapter 2, go download chapter 1 if you haven't' would work... but I'm not so sure. I'm all about eye candy and I really... really... don't want to compress my game. v0.2 has over 600MB just in animations. That could be 2GB by then end of the game, plus 20k renders, and trying to compress than into 10GB or maybe even 5gb file? Anyway, still thinking about the best solution.

Version 0.4
It's on track for a mid to late May release as originally planned. I've got 2k renders done with probably about another 1k to go, not including the sexy scenes which still need animating. Compared to v0.2, it looks like total play time will be less than the first one. v0.2 had 6 games days but only 5 with significant content and 5k of images. v0.4 is 6 and 4 with 3k(probably) images. I could include more game days to match the size of v0.2 but this will end at a natural break point. As mentioned this is a Vivian heavy update with the next one(v0.6) picking up with a lot more Hutch content right from the start. v0.4 will answer some questions and develop the story, but v0.6 is where the pain begins.

Porn Logic
I had a really long rant about this but I scratched it and I'll simply say this: It's a story. All stories are unrealistic to a degree but that's what makes it entertaining. I feel my 'leaps of faith' are easier to swallow than most Hollywood movies. 'Pitch meeting' and 'The Critical Thinker' on YT show just how shitty Hollywood is. But they entertain nonetheless.


Just to speak to this for a moment - YES. That is the short answer to your questions. It's up to you to see WHAT he does then decide for yourself WHY he did it. This thread is a couple hundred pages of people answering that. But to expand on this just a little, despite her screen time, I do not consider Vivian to be the main character. Hutch does not get an inner monologue on purpose. I think v0.6 is a much more interesting part of the story and I think is what most of you really want. We'll get there in time. The good news is that about of quarter of that is already done and being Hutch focused, it's easier to render. The bad news is, after this update, I will need to slow down a little. I'm rushing to get this one done to sort of 'cement' the story, and, as a non initial release, get more attention from people holding off. I almost never download initial releases as they typically have little content and often quickly abandoned. I suspect there are plenty others like me.

Again, thank you to everyone.


No sneak peaks but I'll include just some old eye candy renders I've done in the past.
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This one I'm particularly proud of. I know most of you don't use Daz but I made this without any post work. It was one render from Daz using mirrors. It was inspired but the music video Late Night Feelins by Mark Ronson.
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Thank you Dev, for this update.

We'll have to be patient before we have a bit more to grind. But if the aim is to have a result as polished as a diamond, it's worth it!
Thanks for all your hard work!
 
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When Hutch done talking and went to the bathroom all she had to do is "Don't do it" (I know then the rest of the plot won't happen) but she made up some excuse in her mind that she is doing it so Hutch can cope it and this is good for his ego etc
work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -1.jpg't have to do it -1.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -1.jpg't have to do it -1.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -2.jpg't have to do it -2.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -2.jpg't have to do it -2.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -3.jpg't have to do it -3.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -3.jpg't have to do it -3.jpg
In the end she did what Christian told her to do, put the blame game on him so she can be carefree. I mean come on how fucked up her logic is, this is how she thinks a man gains his ego or manhood. It again shows how little she thinks of him.
Yeah, as SC Stories so eloquently put it, "A leap of faith" in porn logic.

Question though is what do you define as dark (in relation to this tale)?
1. Violence of some sort, e.g. revenge arc, payback etc. Can be dark if mutilation or death involved.
or
2. Emotional punches, e.g. Vivian falling further into the rabbit hole. However after a certain point, it no longer has any effect
or
3. Something else?

I do not consider Vivian to be the main character. Hutch does not get an inner monologue on purpose
Interesting, at least that answers that question, although Vivian has an inner monologue too and probably more screen time/speaking role, so far.
 
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I meant it when I said WOW before... this is the energizer bunny of threads. I am not a professional writer. I don't even consider myself an amateur writer. As stated before I wanted to write a story for myself and so I sat down with a known story arc and basic character motivations and started writing. I simply tried to put myself in the shoes of each character and write from their mindset when they spoke or acted. What I crapped out turned out better than I hoped. I wish I could say I meticulously planned out every detail discussed here, but the fact is the nuanced events and dialogs that are talked about here mostly happened organically. Just evolving into what it is over time as I wrote, added, rewrote and evolved the script into what it is today. I never set out specifically to add X here so that Y happens there. It wasn't until seeing you guys starting to analyze it that I started to appreciate my own creation. Maybe that comes off as conceited and I'm sure some would argue I write worse than a retarded monkey, but what I mean to say is - thank you. Thank you for making me feel good about my story. Thank you for making me feel good about my dark and depressing story that is going to get much worse.


Chapter vs Release vs Version
For now I will try to stick to calling these by version number (0.2,0.4,etc). I haven't decided if I will publish as a stand alone game, in which case I'll call them chapters, or as a complete (to date) game. The only thing stopping me from releasing a stand alone update is that every broken up game I've ever seen here is a confusing mess of naming conventions, groupings hidden under spoiler tags, and other nonsensical formatting. I would like to think calling them Chaper 1, Chapter 2, along with an in game title page stating 'hey this is chapter 2, go download chapter 1 if you haven't' would work... but I'm not so sure. I'm all about eye candy and I really... really... don't want to compress my game. v0.2 has over 600MB just in animations. That could be 2GB by then end of the game, plus 20k renders, and trying to compress than into 10GB or maybe even 5gb file? Anyway, still thinking about the best solution.

Version 0.4
It's on track for a mid to late May release as originally planned. I've got 2k renders done with probably about another 1k to go, not including the sexy scenes which still need animating. Compared to v0.2, it looks like total play time will be less than the first one. v0.2 had 6 games days but only 5 with significant content and 5k of images. v0.4 is 6 and 4 with 3k(probably) images. I could include more game days to match the size of v0.2 but this will end at a natural break point. As mentioned this is a Vivian heavy update with the next one(v0.6) picking up with a lot more Hutch content right from the start. v0.4 will answer some questions and develop the story, but v0.6 is where the pain begins.

Porn Logic
I had a really long rant about this but I scratched it and I'll simply say this: It's a story. All stories are unrealistic to a degree but that's what makes it entertaining. I feel my 'leaps of faith' are easier to swallow than most Hollywood movies. 'Pitch meeting' and 'The Critical Thinker' on YT show just how shitty Hollywood is. But they entertain nonetheless.


Just to speak to this for a moment - YES. That is the short answer to your questions. It's up to you to see WHAT he does then decide for yourself WHY he did it. This thread is a couple hundred pages of people answering that. But to expand on this just a little, despite her screen time, I do not consider Vivian to be the main character. Hutch does not get an inner monologue on purpose. I think v0.6 is a much more interesting part of the story and I think is what most of you really want. We'll get there in time. The good news is that about of quarter of that is already done and being Hutch focused, it's easier to render. The bad news is, after this update, I will need to slow down a little. I'm rushing to get this one done to sort of 'cement' the story, and, as a non initial release, get more attention from people holding off. I almost never download initial releases as they typically have little content and often quickly abandoned. I suspect there are plenty others like me.

Again, thank you to everyone.


No sneak peaks but I'll include just some old eye candy renders I've done in the past.
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This one I'm particularly proud of. I know most of you don't use Daz but I made this without any post work. It was one render from Daz using mirrors. It was inspired but the music video Late Night Feelins by Mark Ronson.
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ty for the update.

is the redhead in the spoiler the character from your first project? can you tell us her name? SC Stories .... would be happy with any form of reply.

think most people didn't get the QT style of writing comment you posted. after referencing the way i remember the story and the style of writing a lot made sense ... even the "leap of faith" in logic(which is better than saying pgl) since i don't want to use the crude term like pgl for this kn.(which i did a lot at the start.... not making excuses) :D

regarding the chapter release and version you can always use torrent or split the game into part using a compression tool that others have done in this site. like winrar and split the over all game into manageable sizes.
 
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SC Stories confirms 0.6 is where the pain begins and that is also the chapter with a lot more Hutch content right from the beginning. So I guess he could mean the inner corruption of Hutch, not merely him witnessing Vivians actions (that's already 0.4) but how this transforms his inner self. Looking into the abyss and then becoming part of it. Self-loathing, self-depreciation, self-humiliation becoming subjectively the cuck he objectively already is and loving it because of hating himself? This is what I would call really dark because it's actual self-distruction on a moral level. Alternatively being eaten up by hate and thereby preparing the revenge-chapter? But I'm not sure if that is the dev's idea of dark and pain.
 
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