Xocopin

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I would agree with that 100%

I actually seen a really good line in another game about a married couple where the husband said to the wife that they where too respectful of eachother in there relationship to just Fuck...so essentially meaning it's all about making love and it all has to be planned and go 100% as planned etc and I agree that sounds boring as fuck haha

Like spice it up be spontaneous sometimes you know haha il use hutch and Vivian as an example - hutch comes home from work Vivian's in the kitchen making dinner ... Throw caution to the wind bend her over that worktop and rail her right there in the kitchen it's simple things like that which can make a world of difference especially when a couples sex life has become stagnant

I agree, but I think that at this point the relationship will gradually cool down. The person doesn't even realize it, they get used to the routine. The person's subconscious is even alert, but they don't realize it. That's why there has to be communication, as you said. I believe that in most cultures marriage means becoming one flesh, and I believe that this flesh will rot when you are not connected enough.
 

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I agree, but I think that at this point the relationship will gradually cool down. The person doesn't even realize it, they get used to the routine. The person's subconscious is even alert, but they don't realize it. That's why there has to be communication, as you said. I believe that in most cultures marriage means becoming one flesh, and I believe that this flesh will rot when you are not connected enough.
are we talking about the real world or the VN ? just wondering?
 

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the way i see this VN is vivian has been driving the car thru the entire marriage. hutch has been a good father an husband thru it all but in essence hutch has been a paycheck for the family to survive. vivian has been doing what society told her to do an thats maintain house an family with a part time job. then she cheats for whatever her reasons are. i have said before an will again i dont think its the fact she cheated but the manner in which she did it. its one thing to know it , it is another to be forced witness it and hear it. now its at a dangerous point.. will repressed rage make hutch do something very bad to get even or will he lay down an be a good little cuck . at the moment this VN could so many different directions its crazy .. hmmmm which way will it go i wonder.
Yes, it kind of becomes a relationship where the wife becomes the husband's mother and the husband the wife's father, a provider, then the sexual relationship cools down because of these roles they have placed themselves into without realizing it.
 

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Doesn't the developer have a discord page? Patreon or something? Does he do everything for free?

I'm just curious.
 

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I believe that in most marriages, people love the perception that the other person has made of them, or even enter into it loving another ideal that they have projected onto their spouse. They never show 100%, and so are never loved for their entirety. And depending on the culture, as in the comments above, or even in social niches, you cannot afford to expose your sexuality or your entire being, which can be dangerous to your own material security in every sense and emotionally.
I gave statistics in which Portugal is in first place in divorces in Europe - something like over 93%
 

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I gave statistics in which Portugal is in first place in divorces in Europe - something like over 93%
These are distorted figures for which there were specific reasons. These high values were caused by the low number of marriages, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic, as fewer weddings increase the relative divorce rate. After that, it leveled off again at around 60%.
Nevertheless, the rate is high. What is more interesting, however, is what the main factors are in Western liberal countries. The high rate is mainly due to liberal divorce laws, economic independence (especially for women) and an increasingly secular society. In Portugal, amicable divorces are possible without long waiting periods, which facilitates the process. Hire-and-fire mentality. Since 2008, amicable divorce is possible without giving reasons if both parties agree.
 
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Well, I had a quick look at the psychological questions/dilemmas that are discussed here. It took a good while. I made a summary and included my personal point of view and thougts as I promised:

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Please feel free to ask if I skipped any juicy dilemmas or spicy psychological questions... :sneaky:
ok, just curious, no judging here, so i have to ask, did you cheat on him for guys with bigger dicks or a bbc or was it strictly to be dominated by an alpha male?
 
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In California since around 1970, in Germany mid 70ies.
That's true, but it's more complicated. On paper it was more liberal, but society wasn't quite there yet. In 1970, the number of economically dependent women was higher. Religion and the church also still had a strong influence. The overall social pressure was too high. It's similar to what Evlidekoltelianne described about turkish society.
It wasn't until the 1990s that things slowly began to change. One of the most important laws in Germany was passed in 1997!Marital rape became a criminal offense. I think that was the important turning point. Why it was changed so late is beyond me.
California is a different benchmark. It is one of the most progressive states in the world.
 

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And no, it wasn't for "a bbc or bigger dicks".
Well thanks for being honest even though you just destroyed about 80% of the porn devs games main trope for cheating and NTR :ROFLMAO:
Not sure if you have played “Her Desire” game but atleast this game the hot mom Amber we get to control, husband has a big dick but we can control her to cheat with who we want,even best friend, son, daughter, old, young, lesbians, swingers cause he’s either on business trips or out, oh and he also has a cuck fetish and likes to hear about her adventures
 
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Well thanks for being honest even though you just destroyed about 80% of the porn devs games main trope for cheating and NTR :ROFLMAO:
Not sure if you have played “Her Desire” game but atleast this game the hot mom Amber we get to control, husband has a big dick but we can control her to cheat with who we want,even best friend, son, daughter, old, young, lesbians, swingers cause he’s either on business trips or out, oh and he also has a cuck fetish and likes to hear about her adventures
But it's somewhat refreshing considering porn has so heavily diluted kinks and fetishes now to a point that they are almost separate from what they where , so essentially like there's two versions of it the "normal" version so to speak and the "porn" version, what I would be curious to know is I would how many people that get into kinks or fetishes what route do they tend to go down normal or porn
 

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And no, it wasn't for "a bbc or bigger dicks".
Out of curiosity and you don't have to answer if you didn't want too... But do you visit the same partner or partners each time or a new partner each time , I'm mainly just curious that if it's the same partner or partners how you maintain/mange/limit the emotional element of it

Now not that I condone affairs but each to there own I'm not here to judge anyone , but when it's just sex that's one thing but when it goes from just sex to sex and feelings that's a whole other issue haha
 

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Interesting turn in the thread. I don't think we get many female perspectives in this thread, but there are definitely females on this forum. I think we should avoid attacking any posters. I also think women have as many different opinions about the kinds of people in this story as men do. For example, EvilDekolteliAnne talked about how she empathized with Vivian and was drawn to Christian's domination and "alpha male" energy. I know for a fact that a lot of women would find a guy like Christian repulsive. As one poster here put it, his wife who is a martial artist would have kicked Christian in the balls if he tried to do to her what Christian did to Vivian. Personally, I don't think Christian using Hutch's job as a means of blackmailing Vivian into having sex with him is the behavior of an alpha male, but that is my opinion. We all have our biases, but being realistic, some people are cheaters and some people are not. Some cheaters only need a little excuse to cheat, others need a lot of pushing, and some would only cheat in extreme situations like being desperately lonely. Some people cheat at the spur of the moment, some people plan it out. Some people agonize over it, other people feel no guilt at all. Some cheat with a lot of different people, some have one lover. For some its just sex, for others there is an emotional attachment. I say all of this because to some extent everyone projects the way they believe the world should be on to these characters. In other words, everyone here, myself included, rationalizes our perspectives on these characters and on the issue of infidelity. I enjoy all of the debating and analyzing we do here, but knowing that all of us rationalize why we think the way we do makes it clear to me at least that we should not attack each other. In other words, we can agree to disagree. I am not targeting any particular posters here, just speaking in general.
 

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My husband doesn't know about my affairs. He's never been open-minded, shutting down every attempt I made to connect or talk through our struggles. Marriage takes constant effort to thrive over a lifetime, you can't just pull away and expect it to work. I poured my heart into us for years, but exhaustion and loneliness eventually took over. Some might say, "Just leave him, then have your affairs." But it's not that simple when you're a mom with a kid who needs stability, a home you've built together, and a life intertwined after 15 years. In a country like Turkey, divorce is even harder. Culturally, it's stigmatized, especially for women, who face being ostracized or labeled as failures, and legally, it's a long, grueling process that can drag on for years. Besides, I still love my husband deeply, he's the father of my child and my partner in countless ways. My affairs aren't about betrayal or a lack of love, they're purely physical, a way to reclaim a piece of myself in a marriage that's left me feeling invisible for far too long. These experiences have opened the door to bold, electrifying moments that awaken a passionate, adventurous side of me, reminding me who I am beyond just being a wife and mother. They're a temporary escape, a chance to feel alive and desired again, but they don't change my commitment to my family.
Really, that's what you tell yourself for justification?
In comparison, its funny to see Vivian actually appear as the better person !?!
 
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