VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[Luc77]

Any ending, as long as it's well told, will be acceptable.

Personally, I have no expectations about “how this story should end” — just like with any book, I let the author guide me to the conclusion. Because how else is it supposed to work? It’s not my story — am I supposed to decide halfway through that it has to end a certain way, and if it doesn’t, what then — be disappointed? Return the book and demand a refund and compensation for emotional damage and wasted time?

 

[Dealbreaker]

Personally, I have no expectations about “how this story should end” — just like with any book, I let the author guide me to the conclusion. Because how else is it supposed to work? It’s not my story — am I supposed to decide halfway through that it has to end a certain way, and if it doesn’t, what then — be disappointed? Return the book and demand a refund and compensation for emotional damage and wasted time?

Why is the dev so nervous then?
And as I said it's not about childish preferences and getting your will it is about consistency of characters. As the dev as admitted himself in his post he had moments when he contemplated changes.
Apart from that the idea his story vs my story is in itself nonsense. Not story belongs to the author in world literature in that sense. Once published it isn't his/her story anymore.

 

[Sparta158]

Return the book and demand a refund and compensation for emotional damage and wasted time?

In case of emotional damage, you can make a warranty claim with Amazon.

 

[Dealbreaker]

In case of emotional damage, you can make a warranty claim with Amazon.

This is not at all what this is about.
What about the reaction of people to the end of Game of Thrones? All idiots who didn't appreciate the author's autonomy? You cant dismiss this problem that way.
Also we should be honest here, that's what I was trying to do with my post. Everybody here has expectations, and that is what the dev senses. Simply to hide it doesn't solve it.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Why is the dev so nervous then?
And as I said it's not about childish preferences and getting your will it is about consistency of characters. As the dev as admitted himself in his post he had moments when he contemplated changes.
Apart from that the idea his story vs my story is in itself nonsense. Not story belongs to the author in world literature in that sense. Once published it isn't his/her story anymore.

I would imagine the sheer amount of theories we post probably doesn't help in regards to being nervous, even though the Dev has said they are sticking to there story/plan I guess it never helps when you have one thing in your mind and 100s of others are potentially saying do something else

I can't imagine that side of it is the easy and especially with it being the Devs first project

Also people generally don't like to disappoint people well most people don't like too

 

[Xocopin]

Why is the dev so nervous then?
And as I said it's not about childish preferences and getting your will it is about consistency of characters. As the dev as admitted himself in his post he had moments when he contemplated changes.
Apart from that the idea his story vs my story is in itself nonsense. Not story belongs to the author in world literature in that sense. Once published it isn't his/her story anymore.

You are right that the work, when exhibited, is no longer solely the author's, but you are taking it to the point of exaggeration. This does not mean that the public has the right to interfere in an unfinished work. The creative process still belongs to the author, and he rightly says that he does not want this relationship of him selling something because people consider it to be theirs too when they pay a fee. He is doing the work willingly for free, I do not think we have the right to charge him anything, even if we pay him, I do not think we have the right to do so. A true artist will do something as he likes, not based on the expectations and desires of those who will come into contact with the work.

 

[Dealbreaker]

This does not mean that the public has the right to interfere in an unfinished work.

Where did I say that? That is ridiculous. People don't read my post. It's about reactions - that's what the dev was talking about and that is what I was talking about. I simply tried not to hide behind this "I accept everything"-attitude and to be honest.
Also the kind of engagement and investment this (and other games here) get goes beyond a purely aesthetic experience like with literature. And this has consequences with regard to expectations. It's not comparable to reading "War and peace".

 

[Xocopin]

Where did I say that? That is ridiculous. People don't read my post. It's about reactions - that's what the dev was talking about and that is what I was talking about. I simply tried not to hide behind this "I accept everything"-attitude and to be honest.
Also the kind of engagement and investment this (and other games here) get goes beyond a purely aesthetic experience like with literature. And this has consequences with regard to expectations. It's not comparable to reading "War and peace".

The point I want to make is that whether the work is horrible from now on for me or for you or both, it doesn't matter to the whole. I think the author discovered that he was being somewhat contradictory to please everyone, no work that exists pleases everyone or makes everyone dislike it. I think that even the author should stop making so many statements about the rumor of the story, just give announcements of updates and teasers to engage from time to time. I think he should get less involved with expectations and desires here. At most, he will look at the criticisms and see what is a technical point or so much personal taste, and know that sometimes those who are dissatisfied due to personal taste have a more engaged relationship of acting to draw the attention of those who were satisfied and did not let themselves be affected.

 

[Sparta158]

This is not at all what this is about.
What about the reaction of people to the end of Game of Thrones? All idiots who didn't appreciate the author's autonomy? You cant dismiss this problem that way.
Also we should be honest here, that's what I was trying to do with my post. Everybody here has expectations, and that is what the dev senses. Simply to hide it doesn't solve it.

It was meant ironically.
Yes, the reactions to GOT were very mixed. But are you really comparing a series that cost $1.5 billion to produce with a hobbyist developer who put his passion on paper and turned it into a virtual video game? Come on. That's a bit far fetched and exaggerated in my opinion.
To be honest, I think the expectations are unreasonable.

 

[Dealbreaker]

I think that even the author should stop making so many statements about the rumor of the story, just give announcements of updates and teasers to engage from time to time. I think he should get less involved with expectations and desires here. At most,

There we are on the same page. Wondering why he does that was the starting point of my post, and I wanted to bring more transparency in this whole problem whcih is better than to see it as a taboo. The dev knows what the emotional and moral core of his story will be and he has a good feeling, I think, for what motivates the reactions of people here. And this connection is what I was interested in, not these fears that somebody will steal the story from the author. I thought we were beyond that.

 

[Luc77]

GOT is, above all, a book—a story. And when the creator (GRRM) ran out of fuel, the screenwriters (Benioff, Weiss) couldn’t manage to tell it properly either.


hmm.
are we still discussing porn games?

 

[Sparta158]

GOT is, above all, a book—a story. And when the creator (GRRM) ran out of fuel, the screenwriters (Benioff, Weiss) couldn’t manage to tell it properly either.


hmm.
are we still discussing porn games?

I just wanted to point out that parts of GOT could definitely be described as porn.

 

[Dealbreaker]

are we still discussing porn games?

That's exactly my point. I'm not the one talking about books and art and authors. My point is that in porn games you have to expect a different set of expectations, engagement and investment of people and therefore a different kind of disappointment, and that is what the dev gets and has to deal with, I think. And no, I don't think he has to change anything because of that.
I even think that it's not so much about what people like to see but what they don't want to see at any cost. Some here have stated that they wouldn't like the idea of Vivian sleeping with everybody and the mechanic etc. Are they not respecting his authorship in saying that? Are they like a child who want's to have his will? No it's because that would change for them the character-image of Vivian - including her actions back at the beginning and their motivations. They are invested in the idea that she is not a common slut like in other games. And they have read here, that this game is not like other games.

 

[Luc77]

I just wanted to point out that parts of GOT could definitely be described as porn.

Game of Whores


Fun fact – way back in the late '90s, another fantasy author, Sapkowski, predicted in one of his essays that Martin probably wouldn’t finish his series. Why? Because age and creative stamina don’t always go together – and unfortunately, there’s no little blue pill for writer’s block.

 

[Sparta158]

Okay, guys. over 300 pages, over 6,000 in 3 months. Unbelievable.
Just wanted to let you know. If I update this page one day and VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [v0.4] [SC Stories] appears at the top, I'll start the download, grab a leisurely whiskey from the liquor cabinet, and set off a tabletop fireworks display for all of us. Cheers.
Dev, no matter how the story continues and ends, I hope you stay authentic and true to yourself and your story.

 

[Luc77]

SC Stories seems to be an exception among devs, as they don’t use any crowdfunding platforms that connect them directly with paying audiences – platforms where creators usually receive feedback on their work. For SC Stories, F95 is the only source of feedback. There’s no Patreon (or similar), no Discord – the kinds of channels other devs often use to engage more deeply with their audience or readers.

 

[Luc77]

Enter the Dragon




What a way to end the day...


ps. besides, GRRM is a brilliant writer, and before he committed GOT he had some good stuff under his belt. Sandkings - one of the best stories ever.

 

[JoeBlogs]

Happy 300 everyone!

 

[joao alves xavier]

Early on after the release of MHB, I fell into the trap of wanting to appease everyone.

Ha! Take that! Experiment part of the agony and anxiety you made us with your game!

Jokes aside, you really should stay put with your original idea. Any significant change may, and probably will, lead your story to a unbelievable or just plain stupid plot, ruining your game.

Now, it does not mean you should ignore some of the comments from people in the forum. They could enhance little details of the plot. One of them is giving more flashbacks. I know you said that you wont go into the full scene in the backyard, but that does not mean you cannot provide with some flashback from that particular scene and also from the couples's past.

Also, please take your time. Do not overdo it. We have so many cases where other devs tried and reach their promised milestone , but at the cost of getting tired from their game. I would prefer longer and similar timeframes for each installment.

Finally, I have to ask you. Is there any thing in this history related to a real experience you or your any of your acquaintance had?

 

[Hattyrulz]

Happy 300 everyone!

more like mission impossible completed.