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I'm curious to see if Hutch is going to snap at some point. He may have given Vivian the ok to get all fuck happy with Christian, but more because he was in a catch 22 situation rather than actual choice, and it'd be eating him up inside. I hope there's an option for him to go off the deep end, it'd make a change from the usual 100% spineless cuck storyline.
 

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I don't agree, sorry, because Vivian's fall was too fast, the fastest of many NTRs, and I think that none of your hypotheses can justify this fall on a path of love, respect, or support for Hucth, I could understand the speed of things, because of the plot, but there are well-written parts, but others are very comical and surreal, the events are too chaotic, ok, beautiful sex scenes, but for me, I find Vivian's crying scenes and all those false second thoughts funny, think with her pussy now she has experienced better sex, do you want to know for me what would be a fair gratification for Hucth, and it is the only not in the finale, fair, that the two traitors die of a violent agony, and that Hucth is there in front of them with an evil smile until the end, to then console himself with the young secretary, but I already know, that here, unfortunately Hucth is the sacrificed loser in the story, no chance, he pays for a work mistake with the destruction of his life, already here, I could contest a plot bug, and we are here spectators of a classic cliché, the powerful and rich wins and receives what he wants, and the poor guy, bows down like a miserable loser, this is the summary of the plot, a picture of the strong powers against the poor doormat men. Perhaps one of the most despicable things that happen in reality, and today also in this VN.
Sorry your boss plowed your wife. ;-)
 

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I'm curious to see if Hutch is going to snap at some point. He may have given Vivian the ok to get all fuck happy with Christian, but more because he was in a catch 22 situation rather than actual choice, and it'd be eating him up inside. I hope there's an option for him to go off the deep end, it'd make a change from the usual 100% spineless cuck storyline.
I hope this doesn't turn into some dark end with killing yourself or others. I just read that a few days ago in Romania a pregnant TV star was killed with a child in her arms by her ex. Life writes enough fucked up scenarios. I know the developer warns that there will be no happy ending but I don't expect any sophisticated psychological food for my brain here on this site. Just fun.
 

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This is one that I fully expect will never be expanded on. It's just really not important. It's served its purpose in the plot, and will now be left to sleep, IMO.
It may come back... if Hutch has a revenge plan and it is found out that Christian was the one who lost them
 

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Vivian’s character is indicative of today’s modern, self-serving, self-loathing raging radical feminist
Not exactly, Vivan's character drives crazy today's preistoric-minded guys... I've NEVER read anyone complain because a male protagonist talks about love and half an hour later he's fucking his girlfriend's mother in the ass... He can, she can't, right? What you call "radical feminism" is what normal people call "reality"... Deal with it, for you own sake
 
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The best thing, as always in my opinion, a bittersweet ending a good ending but not a happy one
 
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My suspicion is that things are not going to turn up good for Christian further down the line.
From part v4 onwards it will be like "The return of the Hutch".
 
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Yelow Submarine

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“Theory: Vivian is the Instigator”


1: Vivian deceitfully betrays her husband, going behind his back and dressing provocatively like a sexy schoolgirl to approach Christian alone in his office early in the morning, shes trying to use her sexuality rather that her wit to fix the issue at hand—a major red flag showing her disrespect towards her husband and her marriage.


2: In the office, at the end of their first meeting, Vivian, who supposedly doesnt know Christian, leans in for a kiss on the lips, thats very strage behavior from a married women. Christian side-steps her advance, kissing her cheek instead. For the first time in her life, Vivian is rejected—her womanhood suddenly ignited like a microwave about to explode with sexual excitement.


3: Driving home from her meeting with Christian, all she can think about is him. She licks her lips, aroused by this “Alpha Dog” who had the confidence and arrogance to push her away.


4: Hutch informs Vivian that Christian does not want her to come to his house, preferring to deal with Hutch alone. But Vivian insists on going. She wears high heels to make her husband appear small and inferior in stature—Hutch even comments, “I don’t like it when you wear high heels when we go out.” Desperate to impress Christian, Vivian sees in him the man she wishes her husband were. She makes calculated, misleading moves and excuses, planning to eventually leave (monkey-branch) Hutch for Christian.


5: During the dinner meeting at Christian’s house, he picks up on the sexual tension radiating from Vivian. He decides to test her loyalty to her husband by showing her around the house, leaving Hutch in the living room. In the back garden, Vivian can’t take it any longer—she wants Christian, and she willingly drops her panties to secure the lifestyle she’s become accustomed to and to let Christain know I'm yours if you want me.


6: Having already given herself to Christian in the back garden (leaving her panties behind for the world to see), Vivian is easily persuaded to sleep with him that very night, she puts up no resistance, while Hutch remains on the sofa. All night long, she has sex with Christian—like a bipolar mess, she loves it, she hates it, she plays the victim and she even compliments Christian on his stamina.


7: Vivian then has sex with Christian in the toilets at his office, further humiliating her husband by telling Christian that Hutch doesn’t satisfy her, that he can’t get it up without a pill.



Do any of her actions seem like those of a woman who respects her husband and her marriage? Does she appear to be helping Hutch secure his job, or is she simply looking out for her own long-term interests?


Remember, Vivian’s character is indicative of today’s modern, self-serving, self-loathing raging radical feminist. Vivian oozes with deceit; she is selfish, self-centred, and self-serving—far too willing to cheat, then lie, and blame everyone else for her mistakes. She refuses to take any accountability for her actions, all while playing the victim.
According to your description, can we expect a lot of sex between Vivian and Christian in the next updates because she has become attached to him? :unsure:
 

Funcle

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Fuck some of you are so fucking cooked.Relationship experts, experience gained from playing vn and watching porn.
This is the 1st part of the game and you already figured out the ending, vivian is a slut and she should sleep with everyone she sees, hutch is a cuck and he must be castrated or like others want he should go john wick on their asses. Christian must be hanged by the balls or offer your wifes to him.
Maybe thats why the dev doesn`t post anymore, afraid to spark any controversy.
At the end of the story alot of you will be dissappointed, you created a story in your stupid heads and if it not the same you will scream...man this suck, devs must be and idiot.
 

kiribito

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Fuck some of you are so fucking cooked.Relationship experts, experience gained from playing vn and watching porn.
This is the 1st part of the game and you already figured out the ending, vivian is a slut and she should sleep with everyone she sees, hutch is a cuck and he must be castrated or like others want he should go john wick on their asses. Christian must be hanged by the balls or offer your wifes to him.
Maybe thats why the dev doesn`t post anymore, afraid to spark any controversy.
At the end of the story alot of you will be dissappointed, you created a story in your stupid heads and if it not the same you will scream...man this suck, devs must be and idiot.
Can only hope the dev has the fortitude to keep to his vision. Don't get me wrong, this is a good VN, but I don't really get the generalized hysteria, it's just weird to see.
 

Xocopin

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I think that anyone who says they don't understand why Vivian gave in so quickly and is in such internal conflict doesn't even know themselves, much less others. In real life, people don't follow Cartesian logic; people have contradictory actions driven by impulses. We are rational beings, but we are also emotional beings with desires and instincts, and they conflict. No one is 100% coherent; the writer's skill is to write this in a believable way, and in my opinion, he did that very well. I still think that those who criticize this side of the story are stuck in a moral narrative instead of seeing how people are in reality.
 

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I think that anyone who says they don't understand why Vivian gave in so quickly and is in such internal conflict doesn't even know themselves, much less others. In real life, people don't follow Cartesian logic; people have contradictory actions driven by impulses. We are rational beings, but we are also emotional beings with desires and instincts, and they conflict. No one is 100% coherent; the writer's skill is to write this in a believable way, and in my opinion, he did that very well. I still think that those who criticize this side of the story are stuck in a moral narrative instead of seeing how people are in reality.
I think the logic is quite simple: This is a porn VN. So the Dev is giving us stuff (for free!), he wants to show. No psychoanalytics needed (except maybe concerning the reasons of the Dev). But as long as he keeps delivering such fine scenes (including a spicy atmosphere, really great animations and wonderfull atps), I'm quite fine with it and like the characters the way they are!
 
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Jonmanchu

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I was hesitant to try that one because of the incenst&female protagonist tags. Is it worth give it a go? Female protagonist options in the hands a man player is a guaranteed path to slutiffication. I tend to avoid NTR games where you play the opposite gender.
Go ahead and give it a try.The renders are great,Sophia looks gorgeous and is well written in terms of teasing.But given the timeline of the game it is a blue ball fest with no concrete action even after all these years
 
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fatoldnugly22

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Thanks, if that's the case its good I haven't checked it out.
You're honestly better off looking at all the fan made games for AWAM and getting more out of it. AWAM is the equivalent of "slow burn" if "Slow burn" meant "Dammit...I never bought an oven. So I guess I can cook this 14 hour turkey one bite at a time in the microwave". Because there ain't a damn thing happening in AWAM.
 

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I see your strategy here: reduce a nuanced analysis of a manipulative, self-serving character (Vivian) to a crude comparison with a fictional scenario where a man sleeps with his girlfriend's mother—because apparently, if men can do it, women can too, no questions asked! Quite the intellectual leap, my friend. But let’s not conflate biological equality with moral equivalence. My point wasn’t about policing women’s sexuality, women can sleep with whoever they want but their is social consequences for behaving in sure a crude and sexually self-objectificing manner, that even most women reject and are repulsed by, other that the moral crusaders of the progressive nihilists—it was about Vivian’s manipulative betrayal of her husband and her gleeful disregard for trust, loyalty, and respect. You’re deflecting with your “prehistoric-minded guys” jibe, but if you truly think that moral standards for commitment don’t apply to anyone, you’re basically advocating for the most cynical, nihilistic view of relationships possible. In other words, if “radical feminism” is synonymous with no accountability for anything, then I think it’s you are the one who’s living in the prehistoric past—where instincts ruled and morality was a curious afterthought!

Your snide dismissal of Vivian’s actions as “normal reality” shows just how far you’ve missed the point. See, feminism was once a noble cause: the fight for voting rights, equal opportunities, and basic human dignity. But fourth wave feminism? That’s a different beast entirely. It’s a social media-fuelled circus—rife with man-hating propaganda, OnlyFans stardom, and TikTok tutorials on how to cheat on your husband or manipulate men into paying for your dinner dates. Vivian’s character is the poster child for this unholy blend of liberation and moral nihilism: dressing provocatively not for her own empowerment but to humilate her husband and snare another man, abandoning her husband’s trust in a heartbeat, all while playing the perpetual victim. If that’s what you call “normal,” maybe it’s time to put down the TikTok and pick up a history book—because real feminism never meant the right to become a walking betrayal of your own values.
I think you are stretching the story to fit your political neuroses and moralism, and having a very personal affection for a pornographic story.
 

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I see your strategy here: reduce a nuanced analysis of a manipulative, self-serving character (Vivian) to a crude comparison with a fictional scenario where a man sleeps with his girlfriend's mother—because apparently, if men can do it, women can too, no questions asked! Quite the intellectual leap, my friend. But let’s not conflate biological equality with moral equivalence. My point wasn’t about policing women’s sexuality, women can sleep with whoever they want but their is social consequences for behaving in sure a crude and sexually self-objectificing manner, that even most women reject and are repulsed by, other that the moral crusaders of the progressive nihilists—it was about Vivian’s manipulative betrayal of her husband and her gleeful disregard for trust, loyalty, and respect. You’re deflecting with your “prehistoric-minded guys” jibe, but if you truly think that moral standards for commitment don’t apply to anyone, you’re basically advocating for the most cynical, nihilistic view of relationships possible. In other words, if “radical feminism” is synonymous with no accountability for anything, then I think it’s you are the one who’s living in the prehistoric past—where instincts ruled and morality was a curious afterthought!

Your snide dismissal of Vivian’s actions as “normal reality” shows just how far you’ve missed the point. See, feminism was once a noble cause: the fight for voting rights, equal opportunities, and basic human dignity. But fourth wave feminism? That’s a different beast entirely. It’s a social media-fuelled circus—rife with man-hating propaganda, OnlyFans stardom, and TikTok tutorials on how to cheat on your husband or manipulate men into paying for your dinner dates. Vivian’s character is the poster child for this unholy blend of liberation and moral nihilism: dressing provocatively not for her own empowerment but to humilate her husband and snare another man, abandoning her husband’s trust in a heartbeat, all while playing the perpetual victim. If that’s what you call “normal,” maybe it’s time to put down the TikTok and pick up a history book—because real feminism never meant the right to become a walking betrayal of your own values.
While I understand parts of your frustration, I would position Vivian slightly diffently within the feminist project. She (late GenX, early Millenial) is a victim of it, in that she is doomed by it to an exaggerated and burdensome sense of her own agency. She feels responsible for everything (but accountable for nothing). She has to prove vigilance, toughness, independence and self-reliance even and the most in her own marriage. The consequence is constant uneasiness, suspicion, angst and self-overestimation: she does it better. This combined (typical combination with feminism since the 90s) with neolib ideology: everything is negotiable and open to rationalization, everything has a prize, even sex. Her self-image of toughness gets her into a fight in whch she feels herself alone (as feminism has tought her), on her own, and where she in the end sees it necessary to put her body on the line - she has heard it a thousand times: it belongs solely to her without any conventional restraints and she can do what she wants, even use it to fight existential threats as she sees them.
 
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Holy shit! Whatever happened to pure unadulterated lust with an absolute need to self destruct being the causes of Vivian’s descent/rise into slutdom?
 
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