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Agree that is another scenario. Make her Submissive to him. When I say submissive I mean speak when spoken to, sex when he wants it pure submissive and she will like it. I have seen this scenario in another game the wife was never happier.
Honestly if it went like this I still think hutch would divorce Vivian but just keep her as a sex toy so to speak locked down in the basement or something while he has a new wife ( would fit the humiliation aspect that she seems to enjoy)
 
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Honestly if it went like this I still think hutch would divorce Vivian but just keep her as a sex toy so to speak locked down in the basement or something while he has a new wife ( would fit the humiliation aspect that she seems to enjoy)
I think he would stay married for appearances but I can also see him fucking someone else at the same time. Tableturning
 

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LOOK EVERYONE, there it is, do you see it, Luc77 at it again once again with the feminist shaming tactic of trying to silence opinions with the labeling of anyone that dares to notice and call out modern women for their sexual degenerate behaviour as an incel. Away and take you face for a good long dump
to be honest, I thought that people like you were only written about in newspapers for media hype. But no, you really exist, thanks to the net you can group and create something like a party. Wow.
 

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My last half a cent. I think we are sleeping on the son. We focus so much on the wife and husband we forget there is a third party. That son is going to have some sort of impact in this game not just a mom we are done. Chapter 1 previews she is looking at someone in the crowd at the basketball game we know its not marcel. Since she is on the court sideline. what if it is her son who saw her get too familiar with marcel. Need a new element be wild if chapter 4 is the sons chapter.
think its a big jumbled.... i think the purple dress event has something to do with the mechanic student(rupert i think that was his name) vivian might have been sent to whore herself for another deal and she went happily not knowing it was her students house....just a guess. and that looking back picture might have been that she was looking at rupert who found out about vivian's of campus activities. which can set-up something with him and the mechanic.

or it can be marcels house as well instead of rupert. as we already have seen him in chapter 2. there might be further developments.

another theory might be something to do with sunshine and rain and how she doesnt want hutch to find out about them.
these are only related to the preview pic of vivian looking back at the game.
how not to be super slut
nice alternate name instead of MHB.:LOL:
I think he would stay married for appearances but I can also see him fucking someone else at the same time. Tableturning
don't think hutch doing any table turning.... hutch and vivian both are depicted as weak willed by the dev in both chapters. they only show their dominance on each other when one of them is acting meek and never at anyone else who are trying to take advantage of them.:unsure: think most will agree with that.
 
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Right now .. what we know of Hutch ... He is not interested in someone else. Until he evolves in chapter 3 , We know nothing . We see other previews and there is none else in them. Not even Addison. At the strip club... nothing that we see. So,, Hutch is still a mystery to the story. He disappeared one day in chapter 1 . But, we know nothing of it.
 

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think its a big jumbled.... i think the purple dress event has something to do with the mechanic student(rupert i think that was his name) vivian might have been sent to whore herself for another deal and she went happyly not knowing it was her students house....just a guess. and that looking back picture might have been that she was looking at rupert who found out about vivian's of campus activities.
another theory might be something to do with sunshine and rain and how she doesnt want hutch to find out about them.
it's obvious - Marcel is behind the Purple Night.
sends her a text message to come here and here. Vi dresses quite conservatively for the latest going out standards, and goes to Marcel's (father? friends, Marcel himself? - the smoking guy is Marcel)
 

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think its a big jumbled.... i think the purple dress event has something to do with the mechanic student(rupert i think that was his name) vivian might have been sent to whore herself for another deal and she went happyly not knowing it was her students house....just a guess. and that looking back picture might have been that she was looking at rupert who found out about vivian's of campus activities.
another theory might be something to do with sunshine and rain and how she doesnt want hutch to find out about them.
She would only be sent if Christian did that. Why would Christian send her to the mechanic ? As for the purple dress previews.. I could be wrong, But it is not the mechanic student, Not the basketball player, Could possibly be the black mechanic and last... could be Hutch.
 

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For me more than anything, Chapter 2 was about showing all of the ways in which Vivian has failed her husband and continues to fail her husband, which includes over the years when she refused to engage in sexual exploration with him and even now when she admittedly would deny him having similar experiences with others.

And then after limiting her sexual experience with her husband and directly contributing to them having a less interesting sex life, she has this intense craving/desire for greater sexual novelty and to share the very experiences with others that she denied him?

Bitch, you're crazy. You helped create this! Cases in point below.

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Thus, I'm not among the individuals who are shocked or surprised to see how stupid and distasteful Vivian's decisions and behaviors were in Chapter 2. She showed enough of this kind of decision making in Chapter 1 to where Chapter 2 was set up for this to happen. However, that doesn't mean I don't think she's any less pathological and pathetic in relation to the lies she tells others and herself, her "reasoning" and attempted rationalizations, and her cavalier behaviors as a wife, mother, teacher, and neighborhood occupant.

I'm hoping that this story eventually will become more satisfying in regard to Hutch and would love to see Christian get what he deserves (as well as see Vivian receive a bitch slap from reality at some point), but we will have to see where things go. With the next update expected months from now though, I'm going to dedicate to not thinking or talking much about it.
You missed the funny and sad part after the anal scene
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It showed where her commitment truly was.
 

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think its a big jumbled.... i think the purple dress event has something to do with the mechanic student(rupert i think that was his name) vivian might have been sent to whore herself for another deal and she went happily not knowing it was her students house....just a guess. and that looking back picture might have been that she was looking at rupert who found out about vivian's of campus activities. which can set-up something with him and the mechanic.

or it can be marcels house as well instead of rupert. as we already have seen him in chapter 2. there might be further developments.

another theory might be something to do with sunshine and rain and how she doesnt want hutch to find out about them.
these are only related to the preview pic of vivian looking back at the game.

nice alternate name instead of MHB.:LOL:

don't think hutch doing any table turning.... hutch and vivian both are depicted as weak willed by the dev in both chapters. they only show their dominance on each other when one of them is acting meek and never at anyone else who are trying to take advantage of them.:unsure: think most will agree with that.
Possible. But push someone to a breaking point you don't know who you get. Personally I think the sunshine/rain thing was a one time thing to show who Vivian really is. Don't think we will see them again. Too much stuff to cover to go backwards. Most possible thing to happen Vivian has a short conversation with Sunshine but I doubt it.
 
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She would only be sent if Christian did that. Why would Christian send her to the mechanic ? As for the purple dress previews.. I could be wrong, But it is not the mechanic student, Not the basketball player, Could possibly be the black mechanic and last... could be Hutch.
Ooooh, here we go, I've figured out the "love it/ hate it" ending. It's going the True Lies route. Christian will send Vivian out to seduce one last client, and she has orders to strip for him and prepare herself to be taken, and when the man steps out of the shadows to do it... it's Hutch :ROFLMAO:
 

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it's obvious - Marcel is behind the Purple Night.
sends her a text message to come here and here. Vi dresses quite conservatively for the latest going out standards, and goes to Marcel's (father? friends, Marcel himself? - the smoking guy is Marcel)
could be marcel i added that while i was editing and seems like your quote didnt catch that. but she might not know its marcels house. it might be his father's or someone related to him.
She would only be sent if Christian did that. Why would Christian send her to the mechanic ? As for the purple dress previews.. I could be wrong, But it is not the mechanic student, Not the basketball player, Could possibly be the black mechanic and last... could be Hutch.
i meant the father of the student rupert. he might have a business connection to christian. i was just constructing the framework idea when i was writing it.
didnt think people were still rooting for hutch to be the cigarette man... seems like none or most didn't follow the restaurant conversation about y vivian likes that expensive wine or about the cigarette man with scarred lips who she fucked around with when she was a tramp in the past. seems like most of you are only watching the dialogue in the sex scenes and not the rest of the conversations :sneaky: ;) :unsure:. having written about this now it might be christian trying to reenact the scene as the cigarette man as he is the only one who know about it which hutch doesn't have a clue about.
 

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Christian after playing both of the chapters again, I realize Christian wasn't an Alpha. He was a guy who had money, no morals and a massive ego, who saw an opportunity to take advantage of a situation. He has no love for Vivian money is what leads him. He has a weak woman that he sees wants to be led like a dog. He sees a tool for more profit.
Yep it was clearly business for him only. The customer also confirms this saying how Christians taste is in women is marvelous. So it shows he has done this before (and he always boast about it).

But how much of Hutch being "vanilla" is due to him acting in accord with what he thinks Vivian desires? She repeatedly denied having anal sex with him, and she even halted a passionate sexual encounter between them midway because her mom warned her about not being too sexually adventurous as a wife (essentially).
i like this .. did her mom warn her before she was a hoe in her younger days or after she came home wrecked by a bunch of dudes.. to talk about there past we would need that info or else its all just guessing
That is right... Hutch on many occasions tried to step it up in the BR.. Vivian would not because of the ideals her mom set. Now ... Due to a circumstance to save Hutch job... she jumps out of the marriage bed and begins to go crazy. What is driving her crazy is Hutch is not emotionally attached to her right now. He will not touch her , or say I love you , nothing. So I think she is also seeking that in the only place she can.... Christian. Not the verbal...because she still loves Hutch... but the physical.
To me Hutch was always willing but didn't want to force him on her. She made him believe she is a good girl who can't even deep throat.

She had anal sex for the first time with a stranger so she can give it to Christian but always shut down her husband because she can. The only thing she hates in the situation is now Hutch isn't listening to her as she thought he should. and in the finale when she tells she will take care of Hutch means she will try to make Hutch compliant like before.
 

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in my opinion you are just exaggerating with the conspiracy theories of who knows what dark work is behind it, the story is so simple to read, Vivian is a total idiot, she is making mistake after mistake, Christian is the bully of the moment, rich, greedy for money, with no respect for anyone other than himself and money, he saw an idiot, he reaped the benefits, with minimal effort, Hucth, is a simple accountant, he made a mistake, he has never really had to fight situations like now, so, with all his being the male of the house, he too, was manipulated by Christian in the first chapter, so, being a weakling, it could also be that he is truly a happy cuckold, he keeps quiet, accepts, and hopes that everything ends as soon as possible, naively believes that his wife will return to the way she was before, but we all know that by now the rabbit has come out of the hat, so, simple story, a profiteering bull, who wants to exploit his resources to the maximum, then he will throw Vivian to Hutch, men like him do not love, they manipulate and exploit for pleasure alone, and here is where Vivian is even more idiotic, she is thinking of having both men, she herself said so, I am alone because the two men are out of town. I read about revenge, about mysteries, as a simplist, I tell you, that instead the plot is the one already read in the first chapter, the rest, will only be chapters on the characters, I bet, now we have had Vivian chapter, the next will be Hutch's chapter, the fourth, will be Christina's chapter, then we will have the final chapter, the fifth, where everything will be over. this is the development.
 
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did i get a different version of this VN? because she was in the bathroom an decided to give hutch what he always wanted.. then went to him in bed and said take it and he did nothing .. am i wrong?
yes and no... You have you opinion and I love them.. Here is mine. Hutch is still pissed at Vivian on the cheating element. So, He is not going to give her reclaim sex ( because he is not a cuckold in that sense) . At that point after the backyard, BR and bathroom , He wants nothing to do with her. Still I think loves her but will not touch her.
Men also can shut down or withheld sex. I have done that to my wife a few times when I was angry. You can call me evil but it felt good to do that when I was angry :devilish:.

But in the context of the game the wound was too fresh and he didn't need to reclaim her as he had no intention of giving her away anyway in first place before the bathroom scene.
 
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could be marcel i added that while i was editing and seems like your quote didnt catch that. but she might not know its marcels house. it might be his father's or someone related to him.

i meant the father of the student rupert. he might have a business connection to christian. i was just constructing the framework idea when i was writing it.
didnt think people were still rooting for hutch to be the cigarette man... seems like none or most didn't follow the restaurant conversation about y vivian likes that expensive wine or about the cigarette man with scarred lips who she fucked around with when she was a tramp in the past. seems like most of you are only watching the dialogue in the sex scenes and not the rest of the conversations :sneaky: ;) :unsure:. having written about this now it might be christian trying to reenact the scene as the cigarette man as he is the only one who know about it which hutch doesn't have a clue about.
Hutch does know the wine she likes. Maybe he know about the story maybe not. Question is how did Christian know. I think he asked Hutch before the dinner . As for who is the cigarette' man ? It could be anyone! The story has not evolved that far yet .
 

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Men also can shut down or withheld sex. I have done that to my wife a few times when I was angry. You can call me evil but it felt good to do that when I was angry :devilish:.

But in the context of the game the wound was too fresh and he didn't need to reclaim her as he had no intention of giving her away anyway in first place before the bathroom scene.
Agreed ! We have to wait to see what Hutch does this next release... As far as the previews it looks like he lets Vivian do her thing with Christian.. This is where I think he will plan something. As Christin himself said. A beautiful women can distract the clients . This will be the same action Hutch uses on Christin ! Hutch will envoke the beginnings of a plan while Christian is distracted. Vivian is just a pawn.
 
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Agreed , I forgot , but it's still not enough, a moment of weakness. A clash with the situation , few people then think logically , especially since yesterday he thought he had been fired .
I think it tried to show Hutch's human side!! Otherwise he shows very little emotion through these 2 chapters. The backyard scene was too much a shock to him to have a reaction but the bedroom where Vivian shuts him down of his concern before going in, he may have thought the backyard was a mistake or something but when he heard things from the bedroom he clearly understood his marriage is over or not what it seems or in future it won't be the same. the killing of the marriage was what brought out his emotion one time.

The thing I find interesting/odd is you would think that Vivian would want to keep in hutch's good books to an extent because if he/she leaves him/her that if/when her relationship with Cristian ends that she would still have someone that loves her and she can get that emotional aspect from

Cause let's face if the marriage ends and the relationship with Cristian ends at that stage her reputation will be well known to the point that no male would ever consider an actual relationship with her and she would likely jump from sexual encounter to sexual encounter

So I would of thought that regardless of what she has going on with Christian that it would be in her best interests to try and keep hutch around for the long term aspect

Now I know this fits more in the reality side of things but its just a thought
The sad part is she also knows this and that is why she still wants to be with Hutch I think as her actions led me believe she don't genuinely love him only saw him as a placeholder and a safe place.
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