VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[Alea iacta est]

Reading the comments it seems we are discussing about a Tolstoj masterpiece.

Get a grip and talk about how poorly sex scenes are represented

 

[xert13]

Part of the fun of this game seems to be all the armchair psychologists who want to analyze the actions of the pretend characters in the story. Gentlemen, it's pornography. This is written a bit better than your average porn game, to be sure, but most guys watch porn, fap, then go to bed. It's not really a repository for great social commentary. Right or wrong, it allows people to enter into a fantasy world they probably could never or would never actually enter in real life. And it allows the developer to put their characters into situations they know real humans wouldn't be open to. It's a fantasy world. We watch, we take care of certain urges, then we move on with the rest of our duties. Let's try not getting too deep into it. Save that for discussions about Tolstoy, Orwell, Dickens and the like.

Thank you, but some of us like theorizing and analyzing the actions of the characters in this KN. We are well aware it is an Adult game. If you are here for the fap, great. A few of us multitask. In addition, I can think of plenty of classics rife with sexual content and inuendo that have been stroked to death in the literary sense. Tolstoy is frightfully boring by the way.

 

[Dealbreaker]

i would have supported this viewpoint ....thats was before i read the last scene with christian in chapter 2. it's not a matter of validation or freedom but just get sex. there is recurring theme in chapter 2. vivian wants sex not validation. validation can be gained in various ways but for vivian the sex she wants is only from christian and she is willing to do anything to get that.

this is shown by her making up a excuse to have sex on her drive home after the restaurant. or going out to see if it was her or christian. it's clear that vivian is the cause of the problem and christian is the catalyst that started the chain reaction. by the end of chapter 2 is clear the she will do anything to have sex with christian.

the whole sunshine and rain event that the dev setup for the us the readers is to make it clear that its not validation but sexual satisfaction. that's my interpretation at least.

Let's agree to disagree here. Sunshine and rain is just sex, nothing else, and that's not what she wants. The sex scene in the car is so grotesque because it's not about sex but about something else. Something else drives her here, the sex doesn't come naturally. She has to literally pull his cock out.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Get a grip and talk about how poorly sex scenes are represented

As i said earlier: male gaze has left the building.

 

[Luc77]

i think that's the reaction the dev wanted, vivian being a whore and going back to her hoeing past days.... seems pretty clear from how chapter 2 ended.

While it can be said without a doubt that Vi has now entered a phase of debauchery, there is not the slightest evidence that she was one in her youth. On the contrary, Vi has so little sexual experience that, unfortunately, Hutch completely fails in bed, and in fact they probably practiced 3 positions crosswise.

 

[TonyMurray]

While it can be said without a doubt that Vi has now entered a phase of debauchery, there is not the slightest evidence that she was one in her youth. On the contrary, Vi has so little sexual experience that, unfortunately, Hutch completely fails in bed, and in fact they probably practiced 3 positions crosswise.

About time. What do we actually know about Vivian's sexual past? She had an erotic experience with an older French man, who seduced her and made sweet sweet love to her. She has given blowjobs, and possibly (I can't remember specific details) deep throat. That's largely it. This thread, however, is: Vivian was a whore, she was spreading her legs for anyone and everyone, probably taking three cocks at a time, just not up the ass...

 

[Lagunavii]

About time. What do we actually know about Vivian's sexual past? She had an erotic experience with an older French man, who seduced her and made sweet sweet love to her. She has given blowjobs, and possibly (I can't remember specific details) deep throat. That's largely it. This thread, however, is: Vivian was a whore, she was spreading her legs for anyone and everyone, probably taking three cocks at a time, just not up the ass...

Give over Tony! The girl has a Tramp Stamp - you know that is the universal symbol of a whore

But in answer, we know very little, other than the things you mentioned... She has a lower back tattoo that may or may not hint at her sexual escapades in the past, and that she is somewhat ashamed of. She also treated sex differently once she got with Hutch, but other than the she didn't want to deepthroat him as it may have given the wrong impression we don't know how different that was.

Theres definte hints at some sort of different sexual past - but a whorish, open your legs to anybody... well that's still up for confirmation

 

[packard1928]

While it can be said without a doubt that Vi has now entered a phase of debauchery, there is not the slightest evidence that she was one in her youth. On the contrary, Vi has so little sexual experience that, unfortunately, Hutch completely fails in bed, and in fact they probably practiced 3 positions crosswise.

Remember Vivian was only giving Hutch basic vanilla sex . so I would not say he fails in bed .. in fact she says he was a tiger when she wore a sexy nightgown. Vivian even said to Sunshine that her mother said to keep it normal in the br . Do not appear to be a whore with your husband. I think Hutch tried to get it to spiced up but Vi did nothing... a least for him..

 

[Dealbreaker]

All comes down to this: the dev constructs the cliche narrative of the sexual career of a typical average marriage: she has more experience then he has from her wild days but nothing sinister. She regulates herself and subordinates her sex life under the goal of marriage meaning it becomes something she manages and controls in accordance to what she sees fit for her relationship with her husband. Then the sex life stagnates but it's not a major topic for her obviously - otherwise she would have made it a priority and given in to Hutch. It becomes relevant now, but as paart of a legitimizing and justifying argument POST FACTUM (FUCKTUM). Now the advice comes from Sunshine, then the advice came from her mother. She takes it on.

 

[Luc77]

I will say quite frankly - the thread so far very balanced, and you could say adult in which you could discuss the story behind the porn, has been flooded after the update with primitive comments at the level of an immature teenager who knows 5 words crosswise. As happens in a crowd, there were 2-3 screamers who bore the mindless masses.

Yes, these days Vi is behaving like a slut. Like a woman in love sinking into a destructive infatuation that transforms her into a whore, still aware of it, but groggy like a horse drowning in a swamp. She can either fight it or give in to it - the end will be the same.

 

[Hattyrulz]

Let's agree to disagree here. Sunshine and rain is just sex, nothing else, and that's not what she wants. The sex scene in the car is so grotesque because it's not about sex but about something else. Something else drives her here, the sex doesn't come naturally. She has to literally pull his cock out.

sure. respect your view DB. and yes we can look at the sunshine event as you say .... vivian wanting to know if its christian or her that is the problem... and at the end it's clear the its vivian who has fallen for christian as she only thinks of christian when talking to sunshine and not about hutch.

i only read the vn once at it has left a bad view of the story for me. so im just quoting for memory here so i may be wrong about the event. and how vivian talk in all that. the driveway sex was extreme yes. because vivian wanted it and its clearly stated by vivian in the bar later that she made it so that she could have sex with christian. it's clearly vivians fault. she is just giving in to the lust and sex that she gets from christian ... like the similarities to the expensive wine she likes that hutch gets for vivian without knowing y she likes it. for now there is only one thing that is clearly shown by the dev the drives her and that is wanting to have sex with christian and she is will to do anything for it.

it's your view i respect that. not gonna refuse it just giving my thoughts.

While it can be said without a doubt that Vi has now entered a phase of debauchery, there is not the slightest evidence that she was one in her youth. On the contrary, Vi has so little sexual experience that, unfortunately, Hutch completely fails in bed, and in fact they probably practiced 3 positions crosswise.

then y the tramp stamp. there must be reason. usually its cos she had a lot of experience with various partners. speaking exclusively interms of the vn not refering to real life. this has been touched about in the stylist conversation.

vivian clearly has more sexual experince than hutch and she didnt want to explore those with him. all because her mother told her to be a good wife. she acted the part for 22 years of marriage and repressed her wild side as vivian words it. from how vivian explains hutch in the chapter 1 to christian its clear if vivian had tried different things with hutch her need for sexual satisfaction wouldnt have caused these events in the story.

not defending anyone or opposing .... just from what the story tells us its clear there is more than what is told of vivian's past in chapter 2. but these are the relevant bits the dev chose to use to progress the thoughts of the character.

Give over Tony! The girl has a Tramp Stamp - you know that is the universal symbol of a whore

But in answer, we know very little, other than the things you mentioned... She has a lower back tattoo that may or may not hint at her sexual escapades in the past, and that she is somewhat ashamed of. She also treated sex differently once she got with Hutch, but other than the she didn't want to deepthroat him as it may have given the wrong impression we don't know how different that was.

Theres definte hints at some sort of different sexual past - but a whorish, open your legs to anybody... well that's still up for confirmation

she is clearly ashamed of it .... it can be seen by how she talks with the stylist about the trampstamp.

about the last statement i would also agree there is more to her past than we know from chapter 2. i think the tramp stamp is because she had more partners than usual. and the neck tattoo is a self reminder for her that the past is a dream within a dream.

from how chapter ending with a vivian happy accepting her rape/forced sex and then makeup sex with her now boss/pimp. maybe she is just going back to herself before marrying hutch and acting the part of a good wife.

some have posted the way vivian reacted to the rape scene and being happy about it is kinda extreme porn logic/leap of faith(as SC Stories worded it) from sad to frustrated to happy. if we see the converstation between vivian and christian its even more disturbing. vivian felt empowered from getting raped. i maybe remembering it wrong.... after that its readers views.

Luc77 and Dealbreaker your comments were just a bit early. beat me to the punch.

 

[Luc77]

Remember Vivian was only giving Hutch basic vanilla sex . so I would not say he fails in bed .. in fact she says he was a tiger when she wore a sexy nightgown. Vivian even said to Sunshine that her mother said to keep it normal in the br . Do not appear to be a whore with your husband. I think Hutch tried to get it to spiced up but Vi did nothing... a least for him..

Remember -Vi is under the spell of Chris, in fact, we can talk about a crush on her part. And a new cockney will always be better than a 20-year-old one. Such is life.

 

[lolo540]

I will say quite frankly - the thread so far very balanced, and you could say adult in which you could discuss the story behind the porn, has been flooded after the update with primitive comments at the level of an immature teenager who knows 5 words crosswise. As happens in a crowd, there were 2-3 screamers who bore the mindless masses.

Yes, these days Vi is behaving like a slut. Like a woman in love sinking into a destructive infatuation that transforms her into a whore, still aware of it, but groggy like a horse drowning in a swamp. She can either fight it or give in to it - the end will be the same.

It's going to be a long road back (if ever). The next update will perhaps describe a little our poor Hutch with in background (to ensure the 3 or 4 scenes of ass) Vivian and the winter circus. If there's any rebound work, I don't see it before chapter 4 or 5, and probably too late for them.

 

[Hattyrulz]

I will say quite frankly - the thread so far very balanced, and you could say adult in which you could discuss the story behind the porn, has been flooded after the update with primitive comments at the level of an immature teenager who knows 5 words crosswise. As happens in a crowd, there were 2-3 screamers who bore the mindless masses.

Yes, these days Vi is behaving like a slut. Like a woman in love sinking into a destructive infatuation that transforms her into a whore, still aware of it, but groggy like a horse drowning in a swamp. She can either fight it or give in to it - the end will be the same.

luc have you read the ending scene between the pimp and the whore?.... there is nothing groggy or delusion .... its clear willingness on vivians part to do whatever she needs to keep having sex with christian. thats has been a theme in chapter 2... from her initiating all the but the rape scene. she created those situation. there no manipulation from christian. he did a lot in chapter 1 in chapter 2 there are is only the rape scene thats is clear indication that he manipulated her into it and he knows he has her when she submits to him.

i dont think the end will be the same if she fought those urges that would have shown the strenght of vivian as a character and maybe have lead to some of packard1928 and Adhdclassic theories about a plan or scheme.

It's going to be a long road back (if ever). The next update will perhaps describe a little our poor Hutch with in background (to ensure the 3 or 4 scenes of ass) Vivian and the winter circus. If there's any rebound work, I don't see it before chapter 4 or 5, and probably too late for them.

you will have to wait a while i think for next update... it says fall/winter. since winter goes into 2026 and people dont usualy work during xmas. hopeful thinking is november..... never know what happens by then,
if there is any revenging from hutch.... there are no hints at it.... like packard and adhd have posted. like you i also think it will be chapter 4 or 5.
not expecting a ocean's eleven ending reveal. but dont want to burst their theories as i want it to be true.

 

[TonyMurray]

Like a woman in love sinking into a destructive infatuation that transforms her into a whore, still aware of it, but groggy like a horse drowning in a swamp. She can either fight it or give in to it - the end will be the same.

You bastard, why did you have to say that...

 

[Luc77]

Hatty you are fretting the same thing again. Stamp that, slut, rag. I come from a country where 40 years ago only sailors and criminals had tattoos. I have a buddy - a serious CEO of a large financial company ( debt market) who has almost his entire body tattooed in Marvel and DC characters. And today's youth are getting tattoos everywhere, without much thought. These are not times when a tattoo defines you. Vi got one for herself because it looked awesome and nothing more.
Even if she spread her legs in front of 10 guys* in her youth it wouldn't make her a slut. Just because you guys are jerking off to a computer monitor today - it doesn't yet make you an incel for the rest of your life. You have opportunities.

*and we actually know about 1 or 2

 

[TonyMurray]

I tried to Google it, but I couldn't find the answer to "how many sexual partners does a woman need to have before she is allowed a 'tramp stamp' tattoo?"

 

[Luc77]

You bastard, why did you have to say that...
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I would like to see Neverending Sextories

 

[King Wan]

Just replayed Ch2 for the 5th time going frame by frame this time and making sure I read everything. I've already watched the sex scenes more times than I can count.. The quality of the story and writing is un-equalled here on f95zone. SCS would make a packet on Patreon or SS, I'm thinking well over $100k over 2 years. I'm not sure about Steam though, not that it wouldn't sell, but a lot of the assets seem to be lifted from this site and Steam wants to see proof of everything, even assets purchased, music and Sound FX....etc or they won't publish.
Nevertheless, MHB is a pure gem.
Going forward I wonder what V (The Hot one), , will tell Hutch in Ch3. I believe she'll move in with Christian, who'll use her and have others use her too. Some of the players think there is a love story here, I don't personally think so, not from my last very slow playthrough. But I think V loves Christian, like a prostitute loves her pimp, because he's the only one who can satisfy her and take care of her needs, be they physical or emotional. Vivian is a tragedy waiting to happen. Had she not met Hutch and 'settled' she would have been on a street corner in a red light district already.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I will say if she has a plan and is successful she still will lose Hutch.