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You just developed a possible scenario for Hutch, I was going for example's sake more in the direction of Vivian.
From Hutch's point of view one could even go crazier: he could imagine an alternative to his real frustratred sex life and sort of splitting off of himself this boss character which is a better, more successful and potent version of himself who gets all the sex - maybe what he imagined himself to become when he started in life. And he - as the boss - takes Vivian away from himself as Hutch, he cucks his old and weak self so to speak. His imagined strong version has discarded and humiliated his weak real self. Mabe this could explain why his weak Hutch-character remains passive. It would be self-hatred, a battle against himself.
AND it would explain why he NEVER interacts with them when they're getting busy: Outside, bedroom for HOURS, in the bathroom stall, she's in the car and he's inside. Like a Fight Club kinda thing. We're getting somewhere with this! :D
 
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Sorry then, I have no idea what point you're trying to make this time round. It looked like you were suggesting he had feelings for Vivian, then that you're suggesting he doesn't... I'm a bit lost.
I'm saying he does otherwise it not be necessary for him to ask those questions. If he didn't care, he wouldn't ask.
And previously it has not been necessary for him to ask.

He has moved past the homewrecker game.
 

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It would also explain why, whenever she is acting like she doesn't want Christian any more (in the bathroom), that he starts to move towards the door and play "hero" and save her from him. Thinking that she'll love him again. But instead hears that she enjoys it and he just sits back and waits for it to finish.

Either this man is dreaming it all, is the biggest wimp in the world, or he just really is like Tyler Durden and is Frank's Biggest Regret.
 

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It would also explain why, whenever she is acting like she doesn't want Christian any more (in the bathroom), that he starts to move towards the door and play "hero" and save her from him. Thinking that she'll love him again. But instead hears that she enjoys it and he just sits back and waits for it to finish.

Either this man is dreaming it all, is the biggest wimp in the world, or he just really is like Tyler Durden and is Frank's Biggest Regret.
He understands that, if she is willing, there is no reason to try to save her. If she is struggling, he will come to her aid.

Cynical interpretations are unnecessary, occam would say.
 
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So to me, that's just a no-brainer. The student has nothing over her, and she should ignore any and every attempt at blackmail he makes.
Why you are so focused on the blackmail?
No one will blackmail her
She do this on her own.... she just try to found excuses to Fuck with her students
She is the teacher and has to find reason to have sex with Marcel..

The only problem for her is to save her reputation but we all know that having a good or bad reputation does not depend on us
The world is full of people who gossip... she tends to maintain a facade of reputation only in her thoughts
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She knows she should have accepted Brian's ride to home but she didn't ....SHE DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE
She just thinks to herself that she is a respectable woman
but believe me she is not
I have known many women like her; they think they are good respectable girls but at the same time they hope to be raped...

Vivian is looking to be raped since she decided to remove her ring by going to drink a beer alone in that bar

In this case she is blackmailing herself for some reason! :cool:

Vivian loves to be adventurous
 

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Vivian is already there. She's already accepted who she is. There may be small bouts of rebellion, but there's hardly any turning back.
Chris has basically put a collar on her and tamed her. And she's happy about it. Well, maybe not exactly happy, since she's naturally going to have conflicts with it. But she's accepted it, because it's something she truly carries within her. It's who she truly is.
Vivian isn't "trying it out." Vivian is on all fours in submission.
Just as Hutch isn't planning any revenge.
This is a downward spiral of self-destruction and humiliation for both of them. I think that's been made pretty clear in these two episodes.
Guys, sex is not everything in life... and between husband and wife it rarely happens unless there is someone like me in the couple who pushes the woman to have fun with others too... I am not interested in monogamous sex, open exhibition is always something to do after or for the first 4/5 years, otherwise sex becomes boring if done with only one person.
However, why anyone's even suggesting Christian and Vivian might marry, I don't know. That's so far from where we are, from where they both are, it's almost as wild as the theory of everyone in town being in on it except for Vivian and Hutch...

Actually, I'll be serious instead - the way things have gone, and what we have left to come, almost anything is possible. I suppose there's a very slim chance that the game could end with Christian and Vivian married, but if that happens... we're in for a wild couple of chapters to get us there!
However, Chris Hutch and Vivian are business partners and breaking the balance of their partnership would not be good for either of them. .Life is not all about sex, and business is definitely more important.
If the three main characters break up the company they are a part of will fail and they could all go to jail for aggravated fraud.

Vivian is addicted to rough sex with strangers...she can't afford to lose Christian who selects powerful business men who would have everything to lose in hurting her...so Chris is perfect
Hutch is also perfect for her and her mental health
Having a Husband like Huch she can continue to believe she has a respectable family and consequently leu needs this very husband to create ala public facade of herself.
 

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Marcel is her biggest mistake in these 2 chapters. Because if an affair with a student goes public : social reprobation, public shame, probable big problems with the law. A lot more dangerous for her than all she made since the beginning.
you are total wrong!
The end for Christian : after losing Vivian (because she left him, because he dumped her, because she made nervous breakdown after all of his abuses,...) he realizes that he loved her, and she was the only one who could have made him happy. Karma, man ! :LOL:
It would also explain why, whenever she is acting like she doesn't want Christian any more (in the bathroom), that he starts to move towards the door and play "hero" and save her from him. Thinking that she'll love him again. But instead hears that she enjoys it and he just sits back and waits for it to finish.
it is foolish to try to predict what will happen in the next chapters because the developer has already said that there will be things that we will not see coming but will make sense with the previous chapters...
 

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However, Chris Hutch and Vivian are business partners and breaking the balance of their partnership would not be good for either of them. .Life is not all about sex, and business is definitely more important.
oh my god. business is more important. You have no soul.

This is why discussion in this group has gone off the rails. The game attracts guys who want to believe that women secretly want to be raped, which is essentially what we see in chapter 1. Women resist at first, but will soon get aroused and join in because they can't help themselves.

There is some dissatisfaction with chapter 2 because the rape motif has been gradually replaced by mutual consent. How unsatisfying for somebody who simply wants to rape, does not believe anything is more important than money motivation, does not understand love.
 
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It is not known whether he will sleep with Marcel - but at this point I am 66% convinced that CigSmoMan is Marcel. Anyway - this scene is definitely in Purple Night. Maybe someone will fuck Vi and Marcel will witness it - maybe the theme of the Group Holding Power will work, maybe Marcel will fuck her (albeit the least likely)
 

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oh my god. business is more important. You have no soul.

This is why discussion in this group has gone off the rails. The game attracts guys who want to believe that women secretly want to be raped, which is essentially what we see in chapter 1. Women resist at first, but will soon get aroused and join in because they can't help themselves.

There is some dissatisfaction with chapter 2 because the rape motif has been gradually replaced by mutual consent. How unsatisfying for somebody who simply wants to rape, does not believe anything is more important than money motivation, does not understand love.
But you do understand that a truly good businessman would sell his own wife without batting an eye – if it brought him the right kind of profit. :)

This isn’t soap – it won’t just wash away
 

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But you do understand that a truly good businessman would sell his own wife without batting an eye – if it brought him the right kind of profit. :)

This isn’t soap – it won’t just wash away
What I do know is that one of the top professions for functional psychopaths is CEO.
So, I have no doubt that some would do that. That does not make it anything but psychotic.
And it certainly does not need to be celebrated as normal behavior.
 

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what i love about vivian is she will continue to go home an kiss hutchy on the cheek saying she is so sorry and cry like hutchy still matters so she can keep on cucking him, she may even start blaming him for everything that has happened ..then say oh honey i will brb this wont take long lol.. knowing full well it is killing hutch but desperately clinging to this fantasy christian put in her head hutchy mccucky wants to be cuckolded just so she get the big d from any dude she can . god i love that woman.. she will make sure MR.hutchy mccucky gets a full dose of pain and misery... now what hutchy poo do about it or will he perish as the good cuck he is? hmmmmm
 
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what i love about vivian is she will continue to go home an kiss hutchy on the cheek saying she is so sorry and cry like hutchy still matters so she can keep on cucking him, she may even start blaming him for everything that has happened ..then say oh honey i will brb this wont take long lol.. knowing full well it is killing hutch but desperately clinging to this fantasy christian put in her head hutchy mccucky wants to be cuckolded just so she get the big d from any dude she can . god i love that woman.. she will make sure MR.hutchy mccucky gets a full dose of pain and misery... now what hutchy poo do about it or will he perish as the good cuck he is? hmmmmm
that is where we disagree. Except from the looks I don't like her very much. Also I don't think Hutch is a real cuck, he doesn't seem to enjoy it. future will tell.
 
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In some respects, the Hutch-Vi-Chris arrangement is a classic triangle. She gets what she doesn't have at home.
 

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In some respects, the Hutch-Vi-Chris arrangement is a classic triangle. She gets what she doesn't have at home.
I'll repeat it as often as necessary: it's not about sex for her. That's a myth. She didn't know she needet that a few days ago. It's the frustrated housewife myth.
 
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I would love the farfetched theory that Hutch orchestrated this whole thing from beginning to end. He was tired of Vivian, He really did fuck up at work on purpose knowing his boss would act the way he did and his arrogant wife would react the way she did. During the boss house scenario he knew there were cameras in the house. So he played the part. Addison was aware that was Hutchs wife she is in on the plan. When he left for the trip he was aware she would use the fuck free card, During the trip he had a conversation with Christian regarding the fuck free card. Maybe even hinting about using it with business. That would make a lovely twist.
 

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I would love the farfetched theory that Hutch orchestrated this whole thing from beginning to end. He was tired of Vivian, He really did fuck up at work on purpose knowing his boss would act the way he did and his arrogant wife would react the way she did. During the boss house scenario he knew there were cameras in the house. So he played the part. Addison was aware that was Hutchs wife she is in on the plan. When he left for the trip he was aware she would use the fuck free card, During the trip he had a conversation with Christian regarding the fuck free card. Maybe even hinting about using it with business. That would make a lovely twist.
conspiracy theories are always fun but as i have said in the past i think hutch is feeling real pain . he is lost because numbers is all he knows. they keep putting him in positions where vivians vagina has to bail them out. he doesnt understand people. hence why vivian has been running the show. i just feel if it has a dark twist to the VN eventually then the repressed rage will eventually spill over and hutch most likely will go HAM on everyone and his son may help too .. will the ending be them going to jail while vivian is either dead or with some millionaire using that vagina to its fullest hmmmm no one knows lol
 
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