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Next up, it's not a fact that Maxwell was at Feng's. There's a guy with similar facial hair (there are a couple, in fact), but that doesn't mean it's him - it's not beyond the realms of possibility, but would he be at a five-star restaurant on that exact night, where reservations are months in advance and clients that are referred to as "snooty" like to go?
Just like at their table, only familiar faces are seated – fine. As I said, we won't reach an agreement, and I don't even feel the need to. I interpret this story differently than you do. That's all.
I'm simply sharing my observations from the game/story/pictures – some of them might be wrong (like with the beer, it seems you're probably right, because it really doesn't matter or make sense), and some might not be.
Fortunately, unanimity is not required here.

We will discover the truth in the next parts of the story - we will see whose interpretation is better :)
 

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Just like at their table, only familiar faces are seated – fine. As I said, we won't reach an agreement, and I don't even feel the need to. I interpret this story differently than you do. That's all.
I'm simply sharing my observations from the game/story/pictures – some of them might be wrong (like with the beer, it seems you're probably right, because it really doesn't matter or make sense), and some might not be.
Fortunately, unanimity is not required here.

We will discover the truth in the next parts of the story - we will see whose interpretation is better :)
I think the key thing is overanalysing every little piece of the game. If you look hard enough, you're sometimes going to find what you're looking for, whether it's there or not. And that sort of thing is fine on its own, but when you present it as fact, and build theories using that as the evidence, it just feels like it's all getting out of hand. I don't think it's an interpretation thing at all.

It would certainly help if theories are labelled as theories though, rather than someone like me having to ask for the back-up every time because they're worded as if there's been some sort of confirmation from the dev or a scene in the game that clearly shows what's being discussed. That just gets confusing for newer players who may not have seen it all yet and therefore think that it's true (as opposed to "might turn out to be true, but we don't know yet"). It gets confusing enough for those of us who have been around since the game first came out...
 

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Honestly – I’m way more entertained by looking for little details in this story and building some kind of narrative or interpretation around them (even if it’s something like the beer) than by diving back into another discussion about whether Vi is/was/will be a bitch – and whether that’s from birth, acquired over time, a result of rising feminism, or simply about a big dick, because as we all know, big dicks fix everything. That’s it, and that’s plenty.

So I’ll keep hunting for those non-existent facts, little details, production mistakes, and keep spinning my theories – and you... do whatever you like.


Unfortunately, all signs point to us having to wait probably until some time in November ( SC Stories – not a jab... eat, drink, and create the story in your own time), and we can only hope that the dev shares some new visuals in the meantime that we can dig into.
 

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I think Addison's role has not yet been fully defined, but she is already participating in the “conspiracy”. We have indirect evidence that something happened between Hutch and Addison, and Chris knows about it. If the woman in Chris's bed (the nightly phone call to Vi) is Addison, then Chris knows much, much more.


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it's Polish not Russian. Russian has a completely different alphabet (letters) - Cyrillic/Glagolitic. On the other hand, I know this language (Russian) enough to understand wtf. I was surprised to see Russian beer (generally unknown to the wider public) on the table in an American bar. However, when I looked at the prices of DAZ - gee, SCS had to spend a lot of money to tell us this story anyway ($1000?), so actually, some elements don't have to mean anything. A beer is a beer. As Tony wrote.
Thanks for the clarification. I don't know Russian or Polish. I wish most of us in the US grew up learning multiple languages. I envy that about people in other countries.
 
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Honestly – I’m way more entertained by looking for little details in this story and building some kind of narrative or interpretation around them (even if it’s something like the beer) than by diving back into another discussion about whether Vi is/was/will be a bitch – and whether that’s from birth, acquired over time, a result of rising feminism, or simply about a big dick, because as we all know, big dicks fix everything. That’s it, and that’s plenty.

So I’ll keep hunting for those non-existent facts, little details, production mistakes, and keep spinning my theories – and you... do whatever you like.


Unfortunately, all signs point to us having to wait probably until some time in November ( SC Stories – not a jab... eat, drink, and create the story in your own time), and we can only hope that the dev shares some new visuals in the meantime that we can dig into.
auwch. Big dicks fix everything? Only average here.
 
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Thanks for the clarification. I don't know Russian or Polish. I wish most of us in the US grew up learning multiple languages. I envy that about people in other countries.
Don't you learn Spanish (South American version) in school ? After all, heaps of people in your place speak (only) this language. Strange. Or Chinese ? - the language of the enemy you need to know :)


In Europe, it is from elementary school that a second language is taught (most often English)

Recently - full surprise, at the match of the UEFA conference league final, in the pass office I was served by a young girl, a Welsh girl who really spoke Polish quite well. I chatted with her for a while, and she said that she just chose Poland to study for no special reason (not family).
 
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Recently - full surprise, at the match of the UEFA conference league final, in the pass office I was served by a young girl, a Welsh girl who really spoke Polish quite well. I chatted with her for a while, and she said that she just chose Poland to study for no special reason (not family).
Maybe not so surprising with regard to labour migration within the EU which afforded Welsh girls the opportunity to encounter people from foreign countries and foreign languages at home and then to get curious or build bonds.
 
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Yes—Vivian can absolutely be interpreted as a representation of third and fourth-wave man-hating feminism, especially when analysed through a critical lens focused on modern gender dynamics, accountability, and moral agency.


Here’s the breakdown:


Vivian as a Symbol of Third and Fourth-Wave Feminism (Gone Toxic)
1. Hyper-Agency Without Accountability


Vivian makes calculated, self-serving choices—manipulating her husband, chasing status, and using her sexuality as leverage. She represents a feminism that champions female empowerment but conveniently abandons accountability when her actions cause destruction.


2. Weaponisation of Victimhood

She plays both predator and victim. This duality is central to fourth-wave feminism’s darker edge, where victim narratives are often deployed not for justice—but to excuse or justify bad behaviour.

Vivian lies, cheats, and betrays—and when confronted, she retreats into the "poor me" script that modern cultural narratives have made socially untouchable.


3. Entitlement Disguised as Empowerment

Vivian wants it all: sexual freedom, validation, power, wealth, and emotional indulgence—without consequence. This aligns with a distorted version of empowerment where "having it all" includes trampling over anyone (especially men) who get in the way. She uses her femininity not to build but to manipulate—believing she can bend reality, men, and morality to her desires simply because she “deserves” more.


4. Disdain for Traditional Masculinity

She clearly disrespects her husband Hutch, who is symbolic of “soft millennial and GenZ men” or “believe all women because they are women nice guy,” and is drawn instead to Christian—a ruthless alpha archetype. Her actions mirror the third-wave feminist double standard: demonise masculinity when it’s inconvenient, but crave it when it offers excitement or power.


5. The Illusion of “Liberation”

Vivian sees betrayal and sexual power games as liberation—but it’s hollow. She ends up more broken, more unstable, and more lost. This echoes a growing critique: modern feminist ideologies promise freedom, but deliver emptiness, broken homes, and fractured identities.


Conclusion:

Vivian isn’t just a character—she’s a walking embodiment of modern day feminism untethered from its original goals of equality and dignity. She represents a version of modern womanhood where power is taken through the sexual objectivation of herself, her morals, her digitnty, self-worth and marriage, as she cant get the real power she craves by merit alone, she never earns it in an honest way, and where men are props or prey—not partners.


Vivian is a dark mirror of man-hating, fourth-wave feminism’s worst impulses—not because she’s strong or independent, but because she’s manipulative, entitled, and utterly devoid of remorse.

A woman’s kryptonite it a thing called a mirror that’s held up to them, getting a woman to take stock and truly look at herself and her actions, to try and take accountability for her selfish actions, is like asking a vampire to join you to watch the sun come up, it reveals too much and it burns


All the real men on here, get your popcorn ready, bring on the meltdown, lmao
It would be fab if you could stop with the ChatGPT spam and just post your own thoughts having played the game.
 

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He does come over as some sort of incel who watches Tate videos when on the bog. I stopped reading his posts a long time ago.
Guys - independently from the positions one holds: just dismissing something as Chat GPT or incel isn't the Gotcha you think it is. It just doesn't set a good standard of discussion.
Apart from that I find the question, how the character interacts with broader social discourses quite interesting and have tried to make some arguments myself in that regard. It's directly in the dialogues of the game itself.
 
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Guys - independently from the positions one holds: just dismissing something as Chat GPT or incel isn't the Gotcha you think it is. It just doesn't set a good standard of discussion.
He's announced his posts like that as coming from ChatGPT elsewhere, otherwise I'd have only assumed it was so. It's not supposed to be a gotcha, it's just that we have good enough debate with the talking points coming from humans, we don't need computers churning out essays as well, that's certainly not good for the standard of discussion.
 

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Guys - independently from the positions one holds: just dismissing something as Chat GPT or incel isn't the Gotcha you think it is. It just doesn't set a good standard of discussion.
Apart from that I find the question, how the character interacts with broader social discourses quite interesting and have tried to make some arguments myself in that regard. It's directly in the dialogues of the game itself.
No Gotcha sought here. He’s just repeating the same stuff over and over on this thread and it’s getting really boring.
 

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Has the dev posted any teaser pics for the next chapter yet?
I could see something like this happening in cucky mchutchys future
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And maybe he will be too shocked to move from the chair like in the bathrooms and he will text Sawyer what his mother is doing with his boss in front of him and that he wants sawyer to get some black gloves a mask and a bat and head on over now
 

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Such a curiosity without much significance (I think) - Vi sometimes uses the surname Dubois (meaning - wood) - she later explains (in the tolet) to Chris that it is her maiden name. Dubois is a native French surname - it appears in many other countries (mine too) , and outside France, it is more common in the US. Maybe that's why Vi studied in France (a semester) - some family connections (grandparents ? great-grandparents ? searching for roots). Another possibility (this is already strong speculation) is that Dubois was the name of this mentioned lover.
 

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Such a curiosity without much significance (I think) - Vi sometimes uses the surname Dubois (meaning - wood) - she later explains (in the tolet) to Chris that it is her maiden name. Dubois is a native French surname - it appears in many other countries (mine too) , and outside France, it is more common in the US. Maybe that's why Vi studied in France (a semester) - some family connections (grandparents ? great-grandparents ? searching for roots). Another possibility (this is already strong speculation) is that Dubois was the name of this mentioned lover.
If it's her maiden name, then it means that's the family name she was born into, her original name before marriage. So it wouldn't be the lover's name, unless he was family, or there was a huge coincidence and they're not related but had the same surname. She also suggests that he didn't really speak much, and she couldn't really understand much of what was said, so it would be unlikely that she'd have taken his name in any capacity.

It could definitely be a connection that led to her studying in France though, if her family has any kind of roots there.
 

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i feel like now that ep.2 came out and vivian is starting her new hookering profession and basically banging every dude in sight , unless dev turns hutch into a maid wearing bitch cuck or a psycho that slays everyone in sight there really isnt much story left to be told lol . she is clear with her choice an wants now soooooo we will see what happens i guess..
 
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