VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[fatoldnugly22]

Anyone else think that the reason Christian knew what wine she liked was because the guy he learned that bit of information was his dad? Dad probably had a picture of her from when they hooked up over that bottle of wine and Christian saw that picture when he was looking for tiddy mags or whatever and found a picture of her. Thought she was beautiful and when she walked through the front door of his office (because Hutch kept her a secret for a reason) he remembered that picture and knew he had to be able to tap that same ass that his dad did? Maybe to try and have some kind of bonding experience or get a one up on his old man? Or trying to fill his old man's shoes and do the same shit he did because he always looked up to his dad and this is possibly a way to feel like it if he's bedded the same woman only this time he wants her to be his rather than just a one night fling over a bottle of wine. He wants to try and dominate her and prove that he's better than his dad?

I dunno...but the wine thing had been bothering me for quite some time because not even Hutch knew about it, but Christian did. Only reason I can think is the dude she got with was his dad.

 

[TonyMurray]

Tat is why I think there is a plan afoot... That may also explain why he ( Hutch )just walk away from the window when they pulled up. I could be way off base but , Vivian is the bait in this plan... She has now set the hook so to speak on Christian.

I think Hutch just walked away from the window there in disappointment at what he was seeing, resignation that it was happening, and purely because he had no desire whatsoever to see it (note to those still considering Hutch as getting off on it, he would have stayed and watched, at least from an out-of-sight spot, if that was the case, surely?).

Anyone else think that the reason Christian knew what wine she liked was because the guy he learned that bit of information was his dad? Dad probably had a picture of her from when they hooked up over that bottle of wine and Christian saw that picture when he was looking for tiddy mags or whatever and found a picture of her. Thought she was beautiful and when she walked through the front door of his office (because Hutch kept her a secret for a reason) he remembered that picture and knew he had to be able to tap that same ass that his dad did? Maybe to try and have some kind of bonding experience or get a one up on his old man? Or trying to fill his old man's shoes and do the same shit he did because he always looked up to his dad and this is possibly a way to feel like it if he's bedded the same woman only this time he wants her to be his rather than just a one night fling over a bottle of wine. He wants to try and dominate her and prove that he's better than his dad?

I dunno...but the wine thing had been bothering me for quite some time because not even Hutch knew about it, but Christian did. Only reason I can think is the dude she got with was his dad.

I really do not think that, no. It's too convoluted - we've also seen their first meeting, and had Vivian's words on it at least, and on both sides (since them already knowing each other is a common theory), it's clear that they had no idea who the other was until the introductions were made. If your idea is correct, Christian might not have recognised Vivian at first, but would likely have had a bit of "Do I know you?" vague recognition, and perhaps an "Aha!" moment when figuring it out. Plus I'd have expected some sort of reaction, a knowing smile or something, when she told the story in the restaurant.

Ultimately, I think that's all it was - a story. A true story, yes, but in terms of what it means for us, I think it was just a bit of background on Vivian, and showing us that she's in a position that she's telling Christian something quite personal and intimate, that she hasn't even told Hutch - that's the important part of it as far as I'm concerned.

 

[_YD__]

There is more to Vivian's obsession with Christian than just her thinking with her vagina. Christian has dug his hooks into her on an emotional and psychological level. The progression of this was greatly accelerated in this story. Vivian likes the way that Christian fucks her, but his hooks are much deeper in her than that. That, and his manipulating her guilt when all of this started, is why he is able to humiliate and degrade her. In your response, you refer to people in there teens and twenties. Vivian is 45 and knows better. Christian knows Vivian's insecurities, and the insecurities of women just like her, and he knows how to use those insecurities to dig his claws into them, just like he did Vivian. None of this justifies Vivian's behavior. If she was a good wife she would have made a lot of different decisions (Not going to the office behind her husband's back, refusing the blue dress, telling Hutch the truth about the dress, not giving Christian a bj or fucking him the first night, and on and on).

On Vivian taking out Christian. That is a possible ending, but that is the type of fire that someone like Christian is playing with when he plays these kinds games with people. Mind games can lead people to go berserk and do things they would not normally do, and do things they greatly regret (this could be any of Christian's victims, not just Hutch and Vivian). I don't know how this story is going to end, but according to SC Stories it will be dark.

the only way I see her taking out Christian is if he dumps her. What he probably will do at some point.

 

[Luc77]

The most important thing is that Vi is fully aware she’s being manipulated by Christian — and Christian knows he can play her like a mandolin. Notice how he believes he knows everything about women, and to him, Vi is just another specimen to shape and control as he pleases. He doesn’t even try to hide it — he’s convinced he can dominate her so completely that she’ll adopt his perspective as her own. Become his loyal bitch.

And Vivian knows this. There’s no talk of love here. Sex is like a drug, and Vi is becoming addicted.

 

[Luc77]

Notice one more thing — the last two scenes aren’t shot in a porn style. Okay, fine, the garden scene is pure (though gentle) porn — SCS clearly has an oral fixation — but the bedroom scene? That would pass even in a regular romance film.

Even technically, it feels like the scene was heavily edited — like a lot of renders were cut — maybe to give it more weight? More romance? Emotion?

That brings me back to something SC Stories said early on (Tony, correct me if I’m wrong): that he wanted to create a story where sex — or, more accurately, eroticism/porn — is a natural means of expression, a complement to the narrative. He didn’t want to make porn where the story is just an excuse to get to the next scene.
Look at the contrast between the first sex scene in this part and the last one

 

[Luc77]

It is then a story of power over man. Hutch may have even seen such actions, maybe even participated in them. For some strange reason he doesn't say to Vi: he's playing with you, I've seen such actions before, you'll be just a toy for him that he'll throw away when he gets bored/ when you're no longer useful (which is in about 5 years at the farthest ) He does not want to warn her - even if he knows she is a big girl.
This is strange - the lack of any action, it's not like he just loses to Chris, he doesn't pick up the fight/game at all. It's like he agrees that like at curling , we let the ball go and watch it fly as it bounces, maybe occasionally with a broom he clears the area, but that's it. He is an observer.

 

[TonyMurray]

Notice one more thing — the last two scenes aren’t shot in a porn style. Okay, fine, the garden scene is pure (though gentle) porn — SCS clearly has an oral fixation — but the bedroom scene? That would pass even in a regular romance film.

Even technically, it feels like the scene was heavily edited — like a lot of renders were cut — maybe to give it more weight? More romance? Emotion?

That brings me back to something SC Stories said early on (Tony, correct me if I’m wrong): that he wanted to create a story where sex — or, more accurately, eroticism/porn — is a natural means of expression, a complement to the narrative. He didn’t want to make porn where the story is just an excuse to get to the next scene.
Look at the contrast between the first sex scene in this part and the last one

Yeah, I don't know if he's said it in so many words, but that's certainly what I read as being the dev's goal. He's talked about viewing it as a movie (but one that doesn't censor the sex) and stuff similar to that. To your second paragraph, he has also said at least once about often doing "reshoots" as a natural part of the process, which is why we sometimes see renders "out of order" compared to the filenames, or some not used, lines of dialogue commented out in the script files, etc.

 

[Dealbreaker]

That brings me back to something SC Stories said early on (Tony, correct me if I’m wrong): that he wanted to create a story where sex — or, more accurately, eroticism/porn — is a natural means of expression, a complement to the narrative. He didn’t want to make porn where the story is just an excuse to get to the next scene.

If it is so - do you think this strategy is working? Because my suspicion is that the more you are claiming you are doing that and you are trying to do that - the more the viewer has the impression of the opposite. Because you are showing that you are hesitating or ashamed to do what you are actually doing. Or that you are trying to kill two birds with one stone. A lot of "erotic thrillers" of the 90s or 00s were like that in that you had the innpression this is just pretentious- you jazz up some generic psycho drama in order to justify some erotic scenes which aren't that erotic either (not saying this is the case here but that is the danger if you frame the problem the way you are quoting the dev). Stand by your real goal: good pornography. I would go so far and say: showing graphic sex is never "a natural means of expression" but a conscious decision to do it. You can tell every story without being graphic. You never "need" sex scenes to drive the story. You can tell the Odyssey with or without sex scenes, it remains equally powerful. You can tell even Lolita without graphic scenes. This all reminds one of the director who tells the young acress he just wants to see naked: well it's necessary for the story, you are doing art a great favor. And she actually sees through that but she also just needs an excuse for herself.

 

[noahsombrero]

If it is so - do you think this strategy is working? Because my suspicion is that the more you are claiming you are doing that and you are trying to do that - the more the viewer has the impression of the opposite. Because you are showing that you are hesitating or ashamed to do what you are actually doing. Or that you are trying to kill two birds with one stone. A lot of "erotic thrillers" of the 90s or 00s were like that in that you had the innpression this is just pretentious- you jazz up some generic psycho drama in order to justify some erotic scenes which aren't that erotic either (not saying this is the case here but that is the danger if you frame the problem the way you are quoting the dev). Stand by your real goal: good pornography. I would go so far and say: showing graphic sex is never "a natural means of expression" but a conscious decision to do it. You can tell every story without being graphic. You never "need" sex scenes to drive the story. You can tell the Odyssey with or without sex scenes, it remains equally powerful. You can tell even Lolita without graphic scenes. This all reminds one of the director who tells the young acress he just wants to see naked: well it's necessary for the story, you are doing art a great favor. And she actually sees through that but she also just needs an excuse for herself.

Disagree. I think this story gains much from seeing Husband sitting outside the door listening to Wife enjoy sex with Boss. And much from that final scene where we see her enjoy it so much and then find that she is still angry with him for sending her to be raped. That is a depth to her that could not be shown otherwise. And much from where he kicks her out of the car for not being able to say she likes sex with him. And then she says it and they fuck in the driveway. As writers always say, show, don't tell.

It seems to me that sex is part of how people are with each other and stories gain from showing it. Stories without sex are unreal for me. Especially love stories. These guys love each other? Why are they not fucking?

Missing that depth to Wife is part of why players so often take a one dimensional view of her. She is ever so much more than what many see.

 

[88stanford88]

Dude, if you live in a porn movie and in pornographic fantasies, that's not my problem, or anyone else's, and it's not a parameter for the lives of the entire world population hahaha. I'm taking my leave here, this topic is full of crazy people.

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Of course, Hutch and Vivian are almost certainly (for the moment at least) on completely different pages - practically different books, in fact. It doesn't matter that it appears to be developing into an emotional thing at the moment, if Hutch doesn't have sight of that - we have seen it, but Hutch hasn't.

I believe that Hutch sees this perfectly ... it is Vivian who desperately want to be attached to Hutch, maybe because it is provable that she feels indebted to him because of something that is the reason they got married 20 years ago ... she is convinced that she loves him and Hutch has seen her so many times crying and worrying about him if he does not respond to texts or her calls from the man who has been her beloved husband for 20 years and more. Hutch knows perfect well the love she has over him

It is blatant that these two love each other and are so much in sync that in order to avoid separation and losing the job and social position they have gained over so many years, Hutch has decided that Viv can work for Chris as long as she goes home to Hutch at the end of the day.

She risked nothing. He already got what he wanted. The contract signed. for the rest he wanted to keep her happy so he can use her again. There is no love and tenderness with him just lust and he knows how to push the buttons.

The problem is exactly that lust is missing between Hutch and Vivian. Love without the right amount of lust becomes like the love you feel for your dog or cat, like the love a mother feels for her child (and I am talking about non-perverted mothers who consider incest a sin) and it is precisely when lust is lacking in the love between husband and wife (which is very common in marriages that last 20 years like this one) that one or both spouses look for lust in other people.

Me and my wife are sexually active and love without lust is not for us. .. you have to invent always new role plays in a couple otherwise you run the risk that one of us will go and look for these games elsewhere... of course only when you close the bedroom door. For the majority of the day everyone has his own job.

 

[88stanford88]

For some strange reason he doesn't say to Vi: he's playing with you, I've seen such actions before, you'll be just a toy for him that he'll throw away when he gets bored/.....

The reason is very simple ... Hutch cannot lose his job!

the problem with all of you is that you all start making so many wild (blah blah) guesses that you forget the fact that everything is thoroughly described in the story.

Cheers

 

[noahsombrero]

The problem is exactly that lust is missing between Hutch and Vivian. Love without the right amount of lust becomes like the love you feel for your dog or cat, like the love a mother feels for her child (and I am talking about non-perverted mothers who consider incest a sin) and it is precisely when lust is lacking in the love between husband and wife (which is very common in marriages that last 20 years like this one) that one or both spouses look for lust in other people.

I don't think we know that about Wife/Husband. We see mostly only since the arrival of Boss in Wife's life. People who manage to stay together 20 years must have had some sex going on. And love becomes what you have been through with somebody. The passion of the 20's passses, and a couple is left with a comfortable life complete with what they need. Otherwise long term marriages don't work. That transition to comfort and "what you have been through with somebody" doesn't happen if the relationship was not based on much more that lust to start with.

The mystery of this game for me is that, after "what you have been through with somebody" is achieved, Boss could come along and take Wife back to her 20's. But this is pornland, so no mystery really.

I think your pics show that the love is still there and very real for both of them. It is not simply up to Husband to force Boss away from his Wife, and no shame for him to not attempt what he cannot affect. The thing that we are waiting for is for Wife to regain access to her heart, remember what is in there, and find the strength to act consistently with that.

But, as I said, if Boss can get smart enough to satisfy Wife's emotional needs, Husband is going to be gone, because this is pornland. No danger of that though.

Boss is starting to realize something too. This really is about a "noble sacrifice" for Wife for her husband and their life together. The next little while in this game is going to be about Wife's emotional needs and Boss's need to have her fully commit to him. Boss is going to see that commitment if he can pimp her out and have her do what he tells her. What does wife do? My bet is she tells Boss to get fucked. But only SC knows for sure.

 

[King Wan]

I’m more and more surprised, amazed, at how the speculation over this story has got way out of hand. I mean we can speculate on hints given within the story, but I see speculation on things that are not part of the story nor have even been hinted at in the story. Come on guys, and girls, this is hardly an adequate literotica site here. It’s pointless coming to visit the thread now because the VN is not being discussed but wild far out ‘maybes’ based on anyone’s fantasies from lalaland. It’s like the discussion on the real story has been exhausted and we’ve moved to whether Sophia from AWAM is actually Vivian in disguise.

 

[noahsombrero]

I’m more and more surprised, amazed, at how the speculation over this story has got way out of hand. I mean we can speculate on hints given within the story, but I see speculation on things that are not part of the story nor have even been hinted at in the story. Come on guys, and girls, this is hardly an adequate literotica site here. It’s pointless coming to visit the thread now because the VN is not being discussed but wild far out ‘maybes’ based on anyone’s fantasies from lalaland. It’s like the discussion on the real story has been exhausted and we’ve moved to whether Sophia from AWAM is actually Vivian in disguise.

So there is a morality that applies to pornographic pirate discussion? Who wants to be an adequate literotica site anyway?

 

[_YD__]

The problem is exactly that lust is missing between Hutch and Vivian. Love without the right amount of lust becomes like the love you feel for your dog or cat, like the love a mother feels for her child (and I am talking about non-perverted mothers who consider incest a sin) and it is precisely when lust is lacking in the love between husband and wife (which is very common in marriages that last 20 years like this one) that one or both spouses look for lust in other people.

I do agree on that.

 

[noahsombrero]

I do agree on that.

Excxept that such marriages don't reach the 20 year milestone. I think. 10 years, maybe.

And at 20 years they don't hold hands and cry when one goes astray. Except in pornland.

Marriage counselors say that when a couple comes to them because they have been unable to have sex, after a few sessions, the couple will return beaming from ear to ear. So the counselor knows their job is done. The couple has had successful sex. Not necessarily raising the roof, but successful. This is what people in long term marriages want. And, for sure, marriages don't survive if the couple is unable/unwilling to talk about problems and take whatever measures are necessary to solve them including compromise/accommodation. They do that because the love is so strong that they feel they must.

Arriving at 20 years viewing your spouse as a pet dog? No way. That marriage was finished and moved on long
before that time. I suspect that those here who have had divorces did not have them after 20 years.

It is also true that sometimes a couple will stay married until after the kids are gone. Children of such parents do not tend to think that their parents did them any favors. A home without love is about as dismal as it gets. The child of Wife and Husband does not seem to feel like his home was not a happy place to be.


I guess it doesn't matter need not be discussed here, except when we try to make sense of this story.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

We could really use a teaser pic right about now

 

[packard1928]

Need SCSTORIES to look at the thread first.... He comments then leaves some goodies !!

 

[88stanford88]

I’m more and more surprised, amazed, at how the speculation over this story has got way out of hand. I mean we can speculate on hints given within the story, but I see speculation on things that are not part of the story nor have even been hinted at in the story. Come on guys, and girls, this is hardly an adequate literotica site here. It’s pointless coming to visit the thread now because the VN is not being discussed but wild far out ‘maybes’ based on anyone’s fantasies from lalaland. It’s like the discussion on the real story has been exhausted and we’ve moved to whether Sophia from AWAM is actually Vivian in disguise.

Totally agree with...
but I'm positive... I will try to stay away from the thread for a while...
but i'm also sure that in about 12/24 othere people will come to add a lot of speculation blah blah that have nothing to do with the story?

like...
someone start saying;
"what if the wife kicked Chris in the balls?!
or
"But the husband why didn't he stop his wife from taking the job offered by the boss?"

Sometimes I think a lot of people don't even read the dialogue in adult games... they jump straight to the sex scenes to let's start asking questions here

Guys all the reasons why the characters in this story behave in a certain way are explained in detail
If the husband gets fired his marriage ends too!..!!

I remember a good friend of mine who lost his job and he would say to me... "please don't tell my wife!"
I would reply that job loss cannot be kept secret for long even for his wife had friends and girlfriends in the same circle...

After a couple of months his wife filed for divorce...threw him out of the house he bought for her and then he could not see his children for a couple of years
now he lives in a one-room apartment and his wife still lives in the house he bought.

these are real consequences that lead to a BAD ENDING.
Sex is not everything when you love someone there can be worse consequences than knowing that your wife is having sex with your boss

I can't wait for the CH3

Need SCSTORIES to look at the thread first.... He comments then leaves some goodies !!

I'm sure he/she is already looking at this thread... the game seems to be a production in collaboration with F95 who is sponsoring this story... I don't think they need our suggestions to the author because he is doing his job very well I think the only goodies Sc Stories will give us will be the release of the third chapter.

As you can see at the end of each chapter...they just want us to join the discussion
and every question including when the next update will be ready?? will be answered in the game



So we just have to wait!

 

[Luc77]

SC Stories
You’re probably not going to wait until July 6th, right?
You can see people are already starting to drift away…
Please, give us something to sink our teeth into — something that’ll make us think.