VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[Gumshoe08]

So at the end of chapter 2 Vivian confirmed that it was her who initiated sex with Christian during their first encounter when Christian gives her the "tour of the house"?

Def. She was folding even the first time she go to the office to talk Christian in not firing her husband.

 

[TonyMurray]

Was it confirmed in chapter 2 that Vivian dropped her panties for Christian in the backyard, or was that something I imagined? I thought I read it, but can't find the scene

You mean how that scene came about? They discussed it in the restaurant:

 Christian: “Why is that so hard to believe? You've always had the ability to stop, to say no."
 Christian: “You just never did."
 Christian: “You're thinking about it, aren't you?"
 Christian: “You never told me to stop, never told me no."
 Vivian: “If I had, you would have fired Hutch."
 Christian: “That's what you let yourself believe... to justify your own desires."
 Vivian: “So, you wouldn't have fired him?"
 Christian: “I didn't fuck you in exchange for keeping Hutch on the payroll."
 Vivian: “~ Quietly ~ Keep your voice down."
 Christian: “I fucked you because I wanted to fuck you."
 Christian: “You are gorgeous, smart and anyone can just look at Hutch and know he isn't getting the job done."
 Vivian: “Hutch does everything I need!"
 Christian: “Really?"
 Vivian: “You don't know me... you don't know us!"
 Christian: “I know enough..."
 Vivian: “But you threatened him! You threatened me!"
 Vivian: “You said I had to, or people would get fired. Hutch would get fired."
 Christian: “Work for me... yes. If I don't replace that lost revenue, of course layoffs could happen. That's just business."
 Christian: “But sleep with me? No. You did that on your own."
 Vivian: “~ Sigh ~ "
 Vivian: “... but in your backyard... what you said..."
 Christian: “And what did I say exactly?"
 Christian: “As I recall, you did most of the talking..."
 Vivian: “Whatever! You knew what you were doing. A lie of omission is still a lie."
 Christian: “No. You made an assumption."
 Christian: “And in business nothing is ever taken for granted."
 Christian: “Be mad at yourself all you want, but don't be mad at me."
 Vivian: “So, if I hadn't come to see you that morning..."
 Vivian: “~ Quietly ~ ... this isn't happening right now..."
 Vivian: “You're telling me I did all this, put Hutch through all of this... for nothing?"
 Christian: “Not for nothing. We still had a great time."

 

[Hardtimesareonus]

Def. She was folding even the first time she go to the office to talk Christian in not firing her husband.

Thanks I'll go through again I'm somehow missing that dialogue

 

[Hardtimesareonus]

You mean how that scene came about? They discussed it in the restaurant:

 Christian: “Why is that so hard to believe? You've always had the ability to stop, to say no."
Christian: “You just never did."
Christian: “You're thinking about it, aren't you?"
Christian: “You never told me to stop, never told me no."
Vivian: “If I had, you would have fired Hutch."
Christian: “That's what you let yourself believe... to justify your own desires."
Vivian: “So, you wouldn't have fired him?"
Christian: “I didn't fuck you in exchange for keeping Hutch on the payroll."
Vivian: “~ Quietly ~ Keep your voice down."
Christian: “I fucked you because I wanted to fuck you."
Christian: “You are gorgeous, smart and anyone can just look at Hutch and know he isn't getting the job done."
Vivian: “Hutch does everything I need!"
Christian: “Really?"
Vivian: “You don't know me... you don't know us!"
Christian: “I know enough..."
Vivian: “But you threatened him! You threatened me!"
Vivian: “You said I had to, or people would get fired. Hutch would get fired."
Christian: “Work for me... yes. If I don't replace that lost revenue, of course layoffs could happen. That's just business."
Christian: “But sleep with me? No. You did that on your own."
Vivian: “~ Sigh ~ "
Vivian: “... but in your backyard... what you said..."
Christian: “And what did I say exactly?"
Christian: “As I recall, you did most of the talking..."
Vivian: “Whatever! You knew what you were doing. A lie of omission is still a lie."
Christian: “No. You made an assumption."
Christian: “And in business nothing is ever taken for granted."
Christian: “Be mad at yourself all you want, but don't be mad at me."
Vivian: “So, if I hadn't come to see you that morning..."
Vivian: “~ Quietly ~ ... this isn't happening right now..."
Vivian: “You're telling me I did all this, put Hutch through all of this... for nothing?"
Christian: “Not for nothing. We still had a great time."

Thanks I thought it was at the end of the chapter

 

[Dealbreaker]

So at the end of chapter 2 Vivian confirmed that it was her who initiated sex with Christian during their first encounter when Christian gives her the "tour of the house"?

What is this nonsense?

 

[Hardtimesareonus]

What is this nonsense?

A question

 

[TonyMurray]

Thanks I thought it was at the end of the chapter

Nope, at the start. They have a different conversation at the end, but the initial backyard scene is barely referenced in it (pretty much just Vivian saying "All sensibility vanished. Just like my first time with you!" and Christian responding "Did it make you wet like the first time with me?").

 

[Hardtimesareonus]

Nope, at the start. They have a different conversation at the end, but the initial backyard scene is barely referenced in it (pretty much just Vivian saying "All sensibility vanished. Just like my first time with you!" and Christian responding "Did it make you wet like the first time with me?").

Okay I imagined that dialogue then I don't know why I thought she confirmed she initiated that scene

 

[TonyMurray]

Okay I imagined that dialogue then I don't know why I thought she confirmed she initiated that scene

No, she didn't, unless I'm forgetting it. The closest you get is the section I quoted from the restaurant, with Christian saying she did most of the talking, and she was making assumptions. So it sounds like she talked herself into it and he wasn't exactly going to do anything to stop her, hence the "lie of omission".

I can totally see it as well, with how she (at least half-intentionally) talked herself into giving Christian a hj/bj on the drive home, and how she talked herself into showing Marcel her guilt and opening herself to potential blackmail on that drive home. (Lesson for Vivian, don't get in cars with people )

 

[Dealbreaker]

A question

Seriously, you can't have watched ch 1 and thought this would be possible. And saying "confirm" implies thatt there was some kind of hint to that in the first place. Sometimes it's just too much.

 

[88stanford88]

Understood.

So you start the post by saying you understood....

This is a game that presents an almost impossible to imagine situation in rl.

I understand it is your opinion..but right after that you actually don't understand a damn thing.

I say, take the game as it is presented and try to understand the characters.

this is right you have to take the story as is written and understand the characters... described as the developer write the story
I totally agree with you here.. but your opinions are not the same i have avout the story

This is in no way real.

What?... Real in the lives of whom?
Here Vivian has been married for about 20 years to a good man (Hutch) who 6 years ago got a job as an accountant in a private company that deals in business finance and offers Hutch a salary of more or less $100000 a year + bonus if he can close more contracts than his colleagues in the boss's company

But Wife has her reasons for her actions as scattered as they seem to us. Suspension of disbelief is required. Much of our rl experience does not apply.

But excuse me, you think your life is the same and can be applied to all the stories you read/play/watch in movies?
So you only judge a story by what you believe is the reality of the lives of all couples who have been married for 20 years?
How many years have you been married to a wife who is a teacher?
And tell me, You have a $100,000 a year lora and bought your wife a German sports car and a mansion for which you pay mortgage and installments?

So it has been difficult for us to agree on much about it.

yes I understand that for you is difficult but not for me! Provably you will never be able to get a Wife and such a well-paying job in your life.
But as I told you I know many women like Vivian is one of my neighbors has a mollics she is a teacher and he is almost always out for work.

No real wife would go into Boss's bedroom in the presence of her husband and fuck the night away

What, So you didn't understand shit
Have you read the story?
Vivian didn't know she was going to get laid and she didn't know her husband was sitting in the bathroom toilet... she only found out after she fucked Chris.
Do you think you understood?...But in my opinion you show that you didn't understand shit
I have picked up at least 5/6 times and maybe more of fucking girls in the female toilet.. in THE REAL LIFE!!

No real wife would come back from being raped, storm into Boss's house and tear into him with rage and then a few minutes later ask him to be loving and gentle with her.

Vivian did but it wasn't real rape because she always had the choice to leave

She want to be raped... no judge could indict Chris or the client for rape and I can tell you that it happened to me

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You say you understand but you write things that humiliate yourself because you evidently don't read dialogue but jump to sex scenes to masturbate

Not real, but comprehensible with a little sympathetic understanding of the game as presented.

Yes, the developer said you have to take the game as he's presenting it to us -- and it's not real just because of the way you live -- well, yours is just an opinion, but I've already told you that this is a realistically written story and someone in your town is maybe experiencing something very similar right now.

She is not a whore or a slut.

And how can you be sure?... The story started since she is about 40 years old but there has been no mention yet of how and and why Vivian agreed to marry Hutch.
And look at her tattoos--to me they look like those of a prostitute or a porn-star.... I feel that Vivian is grateful to Hutch for marrying her...he probably saved her from a dangerous situation she had fallen into and that's why she feels indebted to her husband.
And also because she loved to became a good wife and growing a family she didn't think he deserved.

What is she? It might even be unfair to define women by their sexuality.

What?... Now I get it-you don't talk about women's sexuality but you masturbate by watching porn games...
So to you women are all saints...now I understand your embarrassing opinions.

Knowing that they spend so much of their lives dealing with us assholes.

Speak for yourself....
I do not agree with you because in my case women adore me...
and IN THE REAL LIFE... sexuality is a very important part of the relationship between man and woman.

 

[Hardtimesareonus]

I can totally see it as well, with how she (at least half-intentionally) talked herself into giving Christian a hj/bj on the drive home, and how she talked herself into showing Marcel her guilt and opening herself to potential blackmail on that drive home. (Lesson for Vivian, don't get in cars with people )

Yep that's probably how I got to that conclusion.

 

[Hardtimesareonus]

Seriously, you can't have watched ch 1 and thought this would be possible. And saying "confirm" implies thatt there was some kind of hint to that in the first place. Sometimes it's just too much.

Our minds clearly process information differently, I can totally see a scenario where Vivian's character initiated that sex scene. Vivian almost kissed him during their first encounter but he pulled back if I remember correctly. I can totally see Christian making vague threats, Vivian thinking there's no other way forward, and when they reach the backyard during the tour she turns around drops her panties and offers herself to Christian. It's not really farfetched considering what happened in the car. That could even play a part into why Christian confronted her so aggressively during that scene in the car and made her admit she wants to do these things with him.

 

[TheDuke9999]

 

[Dealbreaker]

Our minds clearly process information differently, I can totally see a scenario where Vivian's character initiated that sex scene. Vivian almost kissed him during their first encounter but he pulled back if I remember correctly. I can totally see Christian making vague threats, Vivian thinking there's no other way forward, and when they reach the backyard during the tour she turns around drops her panties and offers herself to Christian. It's not really farfetched considering what happened in the car. That could even play a part into why Christian confronted her so aggressively during that scene in the car and made her admit she wants to do these things with him.

After 480 pages this feels like excavating a corpse or doing archaeology.
1. At the moment when the boss "invites" her on the tour through the house and she reluctantly and timidly goes with him the "initiative" can't be hers anymore. It's absolutely clear to all of the three what the boss is demanding here. Her decision is just to say no or yes - this is not taking the initiative.
2. Even if we ignore that immediate context of pressure and reluctance and concentrate on the deal itself: Imagine a prostitute standing in the street, a car with a client has stopped before her, he is shaking the dollar notes, but hasn't said anything yet. Would her entering the car be the same as "she initiated sex"? Of course not. It's supply answering to demand.

 

[88stanford88]

I can totally see it as well, with how she (at least half-intentionally) talked herself into giving Christian a hj/bj on the drive home, and how she talked herself into showing Marcel her guilt and opening herself to potential blackmail on that drive home. (Lesson for Vivian, don't get in cars with people )

Vivian called an Uber to get a ride to back home of her own free will even though she knew she had other options... (Uber ride can be undone) and you can't give lessons to a teacher who does this job for living... the fact that the driver was Marcel was just coincidental. What I mean is that it seems obvious to me that Vivian wants to have her own adventures... but she didn't want more contact with Sunshine/Rebecca to avoid awkward chance encounters.. The choice to refuse Rebecca and Brian's ride is very appropriate and serves to make it clear that Vivian knows very well what she is doing... She simply wants to forget what she did the night at the swinger couple's house... who are probably well known in town.

She is a good little wife she cannot risk being seen in the same car with swingers...

The fact that Marcel was driving the car was not expected was just her fate Vivian fate is sealed

so please, no moralistic lessons to be given to a super hot 40 year old woman who knows what she is doing! Just that she has two personalities IMO!! Vivian is bipolar... this explains everything at the moment...but with the next chapter we will be able to understand more or we will find out that she is not bipolar and does this for a specific purpose.

 

[c4inp4in]

Thank for your game. I love NTR stories, and Your game has a good story about that.

 

[noahsombrero]

You mean how that scene came about? They discussed it in the restaurant:

 Christian: “Why is that so hard to believe? You've always had the ability to stop, to say no."
Christian: “You just never did."
Christian: “You're thinking about it, aren't you?"
Christian: “You never told me to stop, never told me no."
Vivian: “If I had, you would have fired Hutch."
Christian: “That's what you let yourself believe... to justify your own desires."
Vivian: “So, you wouldn't have fired him?"
Christian: “I didn't fuck you in exchange for keeping Hutch on the payroll."
Vivian: “~ Quietly ~ Keep your voice down."
Christian: “I fucked you because I wanted to fuck you."
Christian: “You are gorgeous, smart and anyone can just look at Hutch and know he isn't getting the job done."
Vivian: “Hutch does everything I need!"
Christian: “Really?"
Vivian: “You don't know me... you don't know us!"
Christian: “I know enough..."
Vivian: “But you threatened him! You threatened me!"
Vivian: “You said I had to, or people would get fired. Hutch would get fired."
Christian: “Work for me... yes. If I don't replace that lost revenue, of course layoffs could happen. That's just business."
Christian: “But sleep with me? No. You did that on your own."
Vivian: “~ Sigh ~ "
Vivian: “... but in your backyard... what you said..."
Christian: “And what did I say exactly?"
Christian: “As I recall, you did most of the talking..."
Vivian: “Whatever! You knew what you were doing. A lie of omission is still a lie."
Christian: “No. You made an assumption."
Christian: “And in business nothing is ever taken for granted."
Christian: “Be mad at yourself all you want, but don't be mad at me."
Vivian: “So, if I hadn't come to see you that morning..."
Vivian: “~ Quietly ~ ... this isn't happening right now..."
Vivian: “You're telling me I did all this, put Hutch through all of this... for nothing?"
Christian: “Not for nothing. We still had a great time."

I don't think that is definitive. It still is not clear who initiated sex in the back yard. In my mind, "you could have always said no", is simply shukandjive from Boss. Implied consequences were always there. Levels, layers. And if what Boss says were actually true, there would have been no reason for her to say in the final scene.

But rember...
or for him to reply
I know-I know...Husband...noble sacrifice...I get it.

No reason to say that at all. There would have been mutual understanding of the situation, but that understanding was still lacking. Mostly because of Boss's shuckandjive.

For me this final scene is them beginning to be honest with each other about the situation and what is happening between them. Everybody needs to get a lot more honest in this story. Because long term relationships cannot survive otherwise. A breakthrough of honesty for Wife and Boss is significant. A similar breaktrough for Wife and Husband could again cloud the situation, depending on what is said. Not that I am cheering for Wife and Boss. I would say the conditions for a successful relationship for them would be the same as for anybody. Unless SC wants to bless us with more fantasy around that.

So for a final linking of the lives of Wife and Boss three things are needed
1) Husband needs to go away one way or the other
2) Boss needs to get a lot smarter about satisfying Wife's emotional needs, with his understanding that is not the same thing as sexual needs.
3) Wife and boss need a serious conversation where they really do say the words, not in the middle of sex, and commit to each other mutually. If he owns her, she needs to know that she owns him. Otherwise, in the end, no deal. Not immediately, probably, but over a period of a few years a spouse starts realizing the kind of jerk they are hooked up with, or not. If not, happy satisfaction can ensue and years roll by.

 

[noahsombrero]

Def. She was folding even the first time she go to the office to talk Christian in not firing her husband.

She did tell Sunshine that. Which is no shame on her. She is entitled to her valid feelings whatever they are.

 

[noahsombrero]

What is this nonsense?

Nonsense. I'm glad you noticed.