TheDuke9999

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Honest question: did your view of Vivian change with ch 2?
not really it just confirmed what i thought might be happening from ch.1 . vivian isnt a horrible person for wanting a different life. people drift apart everyday in this world of marriages.. she is a horrible person not being honest about it an just divorcing hutch before putting him through what is going to be torture.. now the only question is did hutch somehow deserve this or want it? if its neither then yeah vivian is straight up just driving hutch into the ground without any regard for him in anyway possible.. sad to say but i have seen similiar things in marriages in real life.. not to this degree but close..
 

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As with the scene in the driveway, Husband sees what is going on, she is giving him a blow job, but does not wait around to see how it goes. He has no sexual interest in such scenes.

This could equally as well be showing what Husband is actually seeing through that window. I see no reason to not believe that Husband was actually there. If not, Wife would not have been bothered by the vision, as you see in her expression. She, at least, believes he is there. The jury is out for you and I.

Maybe Husband put on a jacket. The evening is cool. In any case, this is SC's decision, not Wife's imagination. She accepts what she sees.
Some questions for you:
1. How did Hutch get into Christian's house?
2. If Hutch was inside Christian's house here, where did he go when they came inside?
3. If Hutch was actually there watching them, why did Vivian just carry on fucking, when every other time there has been the possibility (that she is aware of) of Hutch seeing them fuck, she has been terrified?
4. Why would Hutch have gone out for the evening expecting a dinner, and not wore a jacket, but then to chase his wife to Christian's house, he suddenly decides he needs to go grab one because "the evening is cool"?

Hutch wasn't there, it was Vivian imagining him, based on her knowledge that he saw her fucking Christian there before.

Even if you allow for different cars, different frames of mind, different driving styles, etc., and say that Hutch would have paused for long enough to go into the house and grab the jacket he wore to Christian's last time, he would have had to arrive at Christian's house almost an hour's drive away between one and two minutes after Vivian - otherwise he would have arrived either before she went round the back, or after they came into the house to continue fucking. That's a tiny window of time for all of that to pull together in. There are longshots, and then there is this...
As far as Wife knows she has not yet been discovered. Even though she takes Husband's suggestion that she continue working for Boss as permission to continue fucking. She is not clear in her own mind. But i don't see where that image in the window came from if she imagines it.
She 100% knows she's been discovered. Since I started writing this response though, Luc77 has provided this confirmation to you. Christian told her that Hutch was watching them from the window during the dinner evening. He saw it on his security cameras. That's where the image in Vivian's imagination comes from.
 

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not really it just confirmed what i thought might be happening from ch.1 . vivian isnt a horrible person for wanting a different life. people drift apart everyday in this world of marriages.. she is a horrible person not being honest about it an just divorcing hutch before putting him through what is going to be torture.. now the only question is did hutch somehow deserve this or want it? if its neither then yeah vivian is straight up just driving hutch into the ground without any regard for him in anyway possible.. sad to say but i have seen similiar things in marriages in real life.. not to this degree but close..
Agree with that, but I asked because I thought there was a shift in your statements - from materialistic to hedonistic motives on her side (my words).
 
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Agree with that, but I asked because I thought there was a shift in your statements - from materialistic to hedonistic motives on her side (my words).
i think she knows now what she is doing . she is becoming a different person because of the actions she has been through. as far as motives everything is happening so fast i mean you can choose any one motive you want an you might be right.. hec you could even say its midlife crisis lol.
 

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after all, she checks whose shoes they are and sees that Hutch is coming out of the loo. She knows he saw her with Chris. There is no room for conjecture here. He doesn't know that she knows that he knows :)
That's a maybe. It depends on how badly Wife wants to believe he does not know. Still we don't have a source for that supposed image in the window as Boss carries her up to have sex.
 
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I am 15 min. into the game and I already want to kick the shit out of the boss for being a dick and kick the shit out of the husband for being a pussy.. not sure about the wife yet.. .. but this does not bode well..
Now a bit further... still first part in Boss home and now want to kick the shit out of the wife too...

Not sure this is a game for me.. it is supposed to be erotic yeah, not wanting to smash everyone.. wanted to try it because of the good ratings.
 

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as for hutch he is now trapped.. if he divorces the wife he will be fired and lose everything he has. unknowingly vivian has hutch in a position of weakness. son will have to drop out of college. even though vivian did the damage she was mostly stay at home wife. she will get it all and hutch will be working 3 jobs living out of box while vivian gets everything. hutch knows this.. the one thing that shocked me from ch.1 to ch.2 was when vivian started blaming hutch in the bar.. i thought vivian wasnt that evil. i felt like she still had remorse . but the drive when she said both substantial men in her life are gone , admitting the boss was know a part of her life sort of shocked me. thats when i realized she will never be the same again and is now falling in love with the boss and will do his bidding. as long as she stays married to hutch.
 

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well, just from Chris's words it seems that Hutch is a very important part of the company, and for the moment there is no option to fire him, because he is the brains of the operation. He knows how to tabulate in excel :) he can't in customer relations.

Whatever deal Vi/Chris makes should not jeopardize Hutch's position in the company.
 

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christain is an ego maniac and doesnt care about what hutch may or may not mean to the company. christian conquers and enjoys humiliation and cucking other men. he even admitted it and will soon turn vivian into the same as himself. now fast forward when vivian shows up at christains doorstep saying she is divorced with either the mechanics or basketball players kid in her belly .. you think christian is going to wife her up and raise a chocolated baby that isnt his lol I DONT THINK SO lol..
 

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Some questions for you:
1. How did Hutch get into Christian's house?
2. If Hutch was inside Christian's house here, where did he go when they came inside?
I don't think we know the architecture of Boss's house very well. I don't think it is necessary. Wife sees the image and
is mortified. She believes it is real. It doesn't really matter what we think. But as with other times, she is willing to deal with the aftermath, if there be some, later.

3. If Hutch was actually there watching them, why did Vivian just carry on fucking, when every other time there has been the possibility (that she is aware of) of Hutch seeing them fuck, she has been terrified?
Terrified maybe, but certainly not to the point of stopping. How could she imagine, for instance that husband has not heard what was going on in Boss's bedroom? Certainly she was not concerned enough to stop, was satisfied that he pretended to be asleep. Never mind that no other woman in the history of the world would have put herself in that situation. If the sex is so compelling, there are better ways to have it.

4. Why would Hutch have gone out for the evening expecting a dinner, and not wore a jacket, but then to chase his wife to Christian's house, he suddenly decides he needs to go grab one because "the evening is cool"?

Hutch wasn't there, it was Vivian imagining him, based on her knowledge that he saw her fucking Christian there before.
There are greater and more significant improbabilities in this game than Husband's jacket. Like Wife going into Boss's bedroom to fuck in Husband's presence.

Even if you allow for different cars, different frames of mind, different driving styles, etc., and say that Hutch would have paused for long enough to go into the house and grab the jacket he wore to Christian's last time, he would have had to arrive at Christian's house almost an hour's drive away between one and two minutes after Vivian - otherwise he would have arrived either before she went round the back, or after they came into the house to continue fucking. That's a tiny window of time for all of that to pull together in. There are longshots, and then there is this...
I don't think we can be so certain of those probabilities, in the face of the fact that Wife has no image in her mind of him actually watching her fuck through a window.

She 100% knows she's been discovered. Since I started writing this response though, Luc77 has provided this confirmation to you. Christian told her that Hutch was watching them from the window during the dinner evening. He saw it on his security cameras. That's where the image in Vivian's imagination comes from.
Again, that image is not in Wife's mind for her to drawn on. In other words, it can't be a flashback. Yes, flashbacks happen, conjuring complete images from conversation, not so much.

I think what Wife knows about what Husband has seen depends on what she is willing to admit to herself. Sometimes admitting what a person actually knows can be too painful to admit. This feels real to me given how conflicted Wife is about the whole affair.

I think Luk's comment earlier about manipulation applies. Wife is not herself. Is not consistent with her whole life before of loving a husband and tending to their child, is not acting like any other woman in the history of the world. One surprise along the way that SC might have in store for us, is when Boss decides to turn off the manipulation and see if Wife really wants him. I think if it is was going to be Boss, Wife would not feel so conflicted, would not be trying to hold on the Husband, would not be going home to Husband at the end of the day after Boss tells her to "stay." If Boss really lived in her heart, she would stay, and fuck him madly.
 
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I don't think we know the architecture of Boss's house very well. I don't think it is necessary. Wife sees the image and
is mortified. She believes it is real. It doesn't really matter what we think. But as with other times, she is willing to deal with the aftermath, if there be some, later.



Terrified maybe, but certainly not to the point of stopping. How could she imagine, for instance that husband has not heard what was going on in Boss's bedroom? Certainly she was not concerned enough to stop, was satisfied that he pretended to be asleep. Never mind that no other woman in the history of the world would have put herself in that situation. If the sex is so compelling, there are better ways to have it.



There are greater and more significant improbabilities in this game than Husband's jacket. Like Wife going into Boss's bedroom to fuck in Husband's presence.



I don't think we can be so certain of those probabilities, in the face of the fact that Wife has no image in her mind of him actually watching her fuck through a window.



Again, that image is not in Wife's mind for her to drawn on. In other words, it can't be a flashback. Yes, flashbacks happen, conjuring complete images from conversation, not so much.

I think what Wife knows about what Husband has seen depends on what she is willing to admit to herself. Sometimes admitting what a person actually knows can be too painful to admit. This feels real to me given how conflicted Wife is about the whole affair.

I think Luk's comment earlier about manipulation applies. Wife is not herself. Is not consistent with her whole life before of loving a husband and tending to their child, is not acting like any other woman in the history of the world. One surprise along the way that SC might have in store for us, is when Boss decides to turn of the manipulation and see if Wife really wants him. I think if it is was going to be Boss, Wife would not feel so conflicted, would not be trying to hold on the Husband, would not be going home to Husband at the end of the day after Boss tells her to "stay." If Boss really lived in her heart, she would stay, and fuck him madly.

Vivian looks towards the window:
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There's no one there (what she really sees) Normal colorimetry

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We see Hutch (which she imagines, remembering the scene in chapter 1 after Christian told her that Hutch had seen them (with the security camera). The colorimetry is grayed out for the memory.
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The thread is going a bit in cirles lmao. I ithink Vivian's sexual side has been rekindled by aall the recent events and it makes her feel young, attractive, wanted and her feeling being wanted make her feel powerful. But she's losing sight in my opinion, like many people who cheat, of whazt's important in life. Contrary to many people who cheat, she has already lost the thrill of doing something forbidden, secret. That's maybe for this reason she asked Christian to make love to her, bc it's a part who's already missing in her life : men now use her, she might find it pleasurable, but nobody loves her. It's very possible that from ch.3 or ch.4, Christian's involvement with her will slow down : there's no much more from her to conquer, except her fucking willingfully in front of Hutch. I think it's still possible Hutch will give her some chances to mend the relationship, but I guess we all feel she's gonna blow it spectacularly, and one way or the other, will lose her husband and son. I think she will be on her high till the the end of the first half of ch. 3. Then consequences might occur, which one ?

- She has been fucked on the front side of her house. In a small town like the story unfolds. It's not impossible her nieghbors are parents of her students.
-She has been seen dressed like a hooker in a restaurant
-She has been seen in a hotel.
- She may be blackmailed by one of her students, which can itself, bring another set of people to know.
- The party in ch. 3

At one point, I think Hutch won't be able to bear this. And i think the son has been introduced for a reason. For me it will be the major consequence for Vivian. Whatever she says, she's terrified to lose her family.
 
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I don't think we know the architecture of Boss's house very well. I don't think it is necessary. Wife sees the image and
is mortified. She believes it is real. It doesn't really matter what we think. But as with other times, she is willing to deal with the aftermath, if there be some, later.



Terrified maybe, but certainly not to the point of stopping. How could she imagine, for instance that husband has not heard what was going on in Boss's bedroom? Certainly she was not concerned enough to stop, was satisfied that he pretended to be asleep. Never mind that no other woman in the history of the world would have put herself in that situation. If the sex is so compelling, there are better ways to have it.



There are greater and more significant improbabilities in this game than Husband's jacket. Like Wife going into Boss's bedroom to fuck in Husband's presence.



I don't think we can be so certain of those probabilities, in the face of the fact that Wife has no image in her mind of him actually watching her fuck through a window.



Again, that image is not in Wife's mind for her to drawn on. In other words, it can't be a flashback. Yes, flashbacks happen, conjuring complete images from conversation, not so much.

I think what Wife knows about what Husband has seen depends on what she is willing to admit to herself. Sometimes admitting what a person actually knows can be too painful to admit. This feels real to me given how conflicted Wife is about the whole affair.

I think Luk's comment earlier about manipulation applies. Wife is not herself. Is not consistent with her whole life before of loving a husband and tending to their child, is not acting like any other woman in the history of the world. One surprise along the way that SC might have in store for us, is when Boss decides to turn of the manipulation and see if Wife really wants him. I think if it is was going to be Boss, Wife would not feel so conflicted, would not be trying to hold on the Husband, would not be going home to Husband at the end of the day after Boss tells her to "stay." If Boss really lived in her heart, she would stay, and fuck him madly.
I'll give you one thing - you are committed to your position, even if it is clear to everyone else (who has commented) that it is wrong. No one said it was a flashback, I (and others) said it was her imagining Hutch watching her, and yes, that does happen. And she does know that Hutch saw them, your whole line about that only being the case if she chooses to admit it is rubbish. Hutch probably wouldn't want to admit that he saw his wife fuck his boss - does that mean he didn't see it happen?

In trying to argue the points against your theory, you are really clutching at straws - solid questions are not dismissed by wishy-washy answers.

(I will rest my case there because I'm already going round in circles, let alone anyone else...)
 

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I'll give you one thing - you are committed to your position,
And you are not committed?

even if it is clear to everyone else (who has commented) that it is wrong. No one said it was a flashback, I (and others) said it was her imagining Hutch watching her, and yes, that does happen. And she does know that Hutch saw them, your whole line about that only being the case if she chooses to admit it is rubbish. Hutch probably wouldn't want to admit that he saw his wife fuck his boss - does that mean he didn't see it happen?

In trying to argue the points against your theory, you are really clutching at straws - solid questions are not dismissed by wishy-washy answers.
I see. Yours are points, mine are theories. I'd say it is all theory at this point.

(I will rest my case there because I'm already going round in circles, let alone anyone else...)
Take a rest. You will feel better tomorrow.
 

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I'll give you one thing - you are committed to your position, even if it is clear to everyone else (who has commented) that it is wrong. No one said it was a flashback, I (and others) said it was her imagining Hutch watching her, and yes, that does happen. And she does know that Hutch saw them, your whole line about that only being the case if she chooses to admit it is rubbish. Hutch probably wouldn't want to admit that he saw his wife fuck his boss - does that mean he didn't see it happen?
I think the important thing to say about this is, real or not

Wife sees the image and is mortified. She believes it is real. It doesn't really matter what we think. But as with other times, she is willing to deal with the aftermath, if there be some, later.

She chooses to have the sex now and deal with consequences later as before.
 

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At one point, I think Hutch won't be able to bear this. And i think the son has been introduced for a reason. For me it will be the major consequence for Vivian. Whatever she says, she's terrified to lose her family.
My guess is he's probably going to serve in a similar role to his daddy has at some points. That being, he's going to end up in some situation (not sure exactly what or how) of listening/watching his mom fuck someone, probably the twins/bbc student. Would be kinda fucked up, but it'll fit with the darker type of shit we're gonna be getting, and the potential crashout over it could be fun to watch maybe. :ROFLMAO:

I'll give you one thing - you are committed to your position, even if it is clear to everyone else (who has commented) that it is wrong. No one said it was a flashback, I (and others) said it was her imagining Hutch watching her, and yes, that does happen. And she does know that Hutch saw them, your whole line about that only being the case if she chooses to admit it is rubbish. Hutch probably wouldn't want to admit that he saw his wife fuck his boss - does that mean he didn't see it happen?

In trying to argue the points against your theory, you are really clutching at straws - solid questions are not dismissed by wishy-washy answers.

(I will rest my case there because I'm already going round in circles, let alone anyone else...)
Don't waste time with him bro, it's like talking to a brick wall. That is also somehow, off his nut on drugs. :ROFLMAO:
 
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My guess is he's probably going to serve in a similar role to his daddy has at some points. That being, he's going to end up in some situation (not sure exactly what or how) of listening/watching his mom fuck someone, probably the twins/bbc student. Would be kinda fucked up, but it'll fit with the darker type of shit we're gonna be getting, and the potential crashout over it could be fun to watch maybe. :ROFLMAO:



Don't waste time with him bro, it's like talking to a brick wall. That is also somehow, off his nut on drugs. :ROFLMAO:
That's one solution, we can accuse each other of being wasted on drugs. Good idea.
 

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My guess is he's probably going to serve in a similar role to his daddy has at some points. That being, he's going to end up in some situation (not sure exactly what or how) of listening/watching his mom fuck someone, probably the twins/bbc student. Would be kinda fucked up, but it'll fit with the darker type of shit we're gonna be getting, and the potential crashout over it could be fun to watch maybe. :ROFLMAO:
I still say that not everyone has to have involvement in every aspect of the story, so I don't think Sawyer will play a part in the sex side of things. I think he's literally there to humanise the couple a bit more and show that they have a life outside of the story, to give extra importance to the financial situation (literally handing over a cheque (or check for the non-UK English out there) for college fees) and it also gives us a couple of extra notes here and there — e.g., "Have you seen your father today?", which helps to show how Hutch was nowhere to be found that one time.
Don't waste time with him bro, it's like talking to a brick wall.
I know, I know, that's why I'm not saying any more to him on the subject.
 
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