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A nice result that doesn't go there would be Marcel trying to blackmail Vivian for good grades, rather than anything sexual :ROFLMAO:
Massively so. I was originally thinking "red herring" in Ch1, but Ch2 makes a pretty strong suggestion of an incoming blackmail attempt, and the other events of Ch2 have now broken the seal on fucking outside of Christian (and potentially Hutch), so...
It would be a massive risk, and worse for her marriage than the other stuff, because of those additional ramifications with regard to reputation, career, legal risk, etc. I'd like to say that she would be too smart to let that happen, but now we find ourselves in a position where pretty much anything is on the table.
I really have no idea what's going on between the two of them (apart from your comment about blackmail/grades).
In any case, Vivian will attend one of Marcel's basketball games at some point in the story. But in what context will she take (Hutch?) with her? I don't particularly like this plot line, but I'm slowly becoming curious about what's going on and why she sometimes looks at him so strangely.
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I really have no idea what's going on between the two of them (apart from your comment about blackmail/grades).
In any case, Vivian will attend one of Marcel's basketball games at some point in the story. But in what context will she take (Hutch?) with her? I don't particularly like this plot line, but I'm slowly becoming curious about what's going on and why she sometimes looks at him so strangely.
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Looks like a look of envy/jealousy kinda? I mean, Mr Token BBC is clearly talking to a girl there. Maybe this is set after she's already fucked him somewhere in the story, and now she's feeling insecure/jealous that he's entertaining other girls. :unsure: Either that or as Hutch is present, and he's usually present for her hoeing. Maybe she's just got done blowing him in the toilets or something, and feels used that he's talking to other girls right after...:ROFLMAO:
 

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**THEORY**

What if Hutch and Vivian are two psychologically disturbed lunatics much like Ben Affleck and Ana de Armas chracters Melinda and Vic Van Allen in the film Deep Water. Hutch lets his wife pursue rich arrogant men, that she seduces with sex and when, in the end, the likes of Christain thinks he won and Vivian gets bored, Hutch shows up to kill him. Hutch and Vivian sexual kik is sex and murder
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I really have no idea what's going on between the two of them (apart from your comment about blackmail/grades).
In any case, Vivian will attend one of Marcel's basketball games at some point in the story. But in what context will she take (Hutch?) with her? I don't particularly like this plot line, but I'm slowly becoming curious about what's going on and why she sometimes looks at him so strangely.
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Is this a teaser from Dev?
I don't remember this one!

Anyway, she looks like she's with Hutch and she looks worried that Marcel is going to say something in front of Hutch...
 
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Is this a teaser from Dev?
I don't remember this one!

Anyway, she looks like she's with Hutch and she looks worried that Marcel is going to say something in front of Hutch...
It's one of the previews that was included at the end of the original 0.2 release.
 
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I'm less sure on a triangle there, but you did misremember that line of dialogue:
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Christian: "Haha... maybe.  But she's very sweet once she gets to know you."
There's no indication in that that Vivian would see Addison again, certianly not in any way orchestrated by Christian. He was just having conversation, saying that although she came across as an asshole to Vivian, she isn't always like that.
You're right. I wasn't precise enough. It doesn't have to be a triangle.
I'm still erring on the side of that one being just a tease, rather than a preview, but of course, it remains to be seen. From her nightmare, it looks like Vivian might feel a little threatened by Addison, despite having no actual reason to be that we've seen. So unless it's an extreme case of "keeping your enemies closer", I can't see her voluntarily getting that close to Addison.

If it is in the game (and I'd personally like it to be), and presuming it is Addison (which is currently only a presumption, I think), how do we think it would come about?

- Would it be just a simple kiss, and no more than that, maybe to try getting a reaction out of Hutch (or Christian)?
- Would it be Vivian taking on the role played by Sunshine, in giving Hutch a special evening?
- Would it be the next stage of powerplay by Christian, forcing a threesome, or forcing some girl-girl for Vivian?
- Or, would it be Vivian wanting some more soft lips and trying out a younger model, possibly picking Addison deliberately because of her proximity to both men?

I really have no idea if any of them would make much sense, but if it happens, I'm sure dev will make it work. Because of Vivian's fears and jealousy of Addison, her one-sided stance on the open marriage, and Hutch's reactions so far, I think a Vivian-Hutch-Addison threesome is probably the least likely possibility, but it's probably my favourite possibility too.
(Speculative area) But let's just assume, without knowing the context, that the naked blonde in Christian's bed was Addison and she wasn't asleep.
Then she would at least know that Christian is having sex with Hutch's wife, playing with her, and that Hutch's possible dismissal was just a pretext? Since Hutch is being transferred to the warehouse department (or something similar), Vivian could eventually take over Hutch's position in the office (customer acquisition, Christian hinted at something like that)? That means she would have to work with Addison.
That could develop into a storyline that affects both of them. The exciting question, of course, is which direction that would take. In any case, it would have good potential and material. The image sparks a certain imagination. SCS is particularly good at this.:D
 
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Massively so. I was originally thinking "red herring" in Ch1, but Ch2 makes a pretty strong suggestion of an incoming blackmail attempt, and the other events of Ch2 have now broken the seal on fucking outside of Christian (and potentially Hutch), so...
She has voluntarily fucked Boss and Brian in chapter 2. That suggests to you that there will be massively more of that?
 

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Yep ... he is bad news... I don't like how he blackmailed her for the phone number... He still has that as an advantage.
 

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I think he will probably will in the course of the game. As for Addison I agree with you. It would be really bad if Christian gets all the girls. It is still possible.
It is the premise of all porn games since forever. Somebody gets all the girls, hero or villain.

Definitely. It will be something refreshing to see in porn games unlike dominant wife and submissive husband in NTR games over the years.
It doesn't seem to me that SC is copying anybody, movie, book or anything else. This is all brand new. I speculate.

(Speculative area) But let's just assume, without knowing the context, that the naked blonde in Christian's bed was Addison and she wasn't asleep.
Naked blond? There was what looked like, maybe, a shock of hair. No naked body in sight. It could have been a rolled over sheet of that color. That is what I speculate.
 

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(Speculative area) But let's just assume, without knowing the context, that the naked blonde in Christian's bed was Addison and she wasn't asleep.
Then she would at least know that Christian is having sex with Hutch's wife, playing with her, and that Hutch's possible dismissal was just a pretext? Since Hutch is being transferred to the warehouse department (or something similar), Vivian could eventually take over Hutch's position in the office (customer acquisition, Christian hinted at something like that)? That means she would have to work with Addison.
That could develop into a storyline that affects both of them. The exciting question, of course, is which direction that would take. In any case, it would have good potential and material. The image sparks a certain imagination. SCS is particularly good at this.:D
Too much of that is a long shot for me. I would say it's likely that it was Addison in Christian's bed, but that's largely because we have no one else to suggest it might be, so the alternative is "just a random blonde" or my personal favourite "Addison's mother/Christian's sister-in-law". If it is Addison, I like the idea of her not actually being asleep there and hearing the conversation, and what that could bring to the story - especially as the next update is largely going to focus on Hutch. There was enough in that conversation to give it away from just Christian's side (presuming she wouldn't also be able to hear what Vivian was saying) - he talks about them having sex using words that are explicity clear, so there'd be no assumption needed, and he also uses Hutch's name once. He does also talk about Vivian doing work for him as a consultant, so there's a possibility that Addison (if it was her) could put two and two together when Vivian turns up a couple of days later at the office, although I think her "attitude" was already there before Vivian even introduced herself/said what she was there for, so maybe this was not the cause. If not though, as soon as Vivian does turn up at the office in her role as consultant, Addison (in this scenario) would be able to put it together, even if she doesn't know what Hutch's wife looks like (no photos on his desk, etc.)

For the rest of it though, Hutch is changing job roles, but he's going to be staying the office, I think - there's certainly no need for him being moved to the warehouse, as he wouldn't be in a good place to do his job there. Vivian is "hired" as an outside consultant, meaning she is not an employee, and would therefore not take a place in the office. If she was to work in the office, she would almost certainly have to leave her role as a teacher, and she is unlikely to do that, unless working for Christian is stable enough and lucrative enough to make that risk worth taking. While the money is good compared to her teacher pay, I don't think Vivian (at the moment) wants or expects the consultancy work to go on long term, so it would be a mistake to leave her teaching role for it, I believe.
No previews in Chapter 2 kinda sucked. Hopefully Chapter 3 gives us something to hype over.
I sort of get it, because the previews in 0.2 were not just for 0.4 (or Ch2, as it became) - they were for later in the game as well. So I see it as something just in the initial release to whet your appetite for the rest of the game. Dev has said a few times that he already had a good number of Ch3 renders done even before releasing 0.2 (now known as Ch1), so he already had some "future" renders to be able to share, whereas he might not have been in the same position when releasing Ch2 without spoiling upcoming events or just showing us stuff we've basically already seen.

Of course, I think all of us would have liked the preview renders to be a thing though, and for Ch2 to have had a bunch of them at the end as well.

I was curious, so I did some looking and there were 14 previews at the end of 0.2, and if I'm not mistaken, only two of them ended up being in Ch2. Between 0.2 and Ch2, I reckon there were about 16 previews (plus some other images stated as not previews, or teases as "are they/aren't they?") and I think about 12 of those made it into Ch2, a couple of them with some slight alterations (e.g., the preview of Vivian with cum on her back is not in the game, all such shots in the game have Rain in the picture as well). So theoretically, we have something like 15 or 16 previews for the rest of the game already, and a possible idea of how many previews we might get in the lead up to Ch3 (there is no science at all to that last part, as there was no uniformity to timeframe or number of previews released, and they did also start up not long at all after 0.2 was released, whereas we have had no word since Ch2 came out).
 

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Too much of that is a long shot for me. I would say it's likely that it was Addison in Christian's bed, but that's largely because we have no one else to suggest it might be, so the alternative is "just a random blonde" or my personal favourite "Addison's mother/Christian's sister-in-law". If it is Addison, I like the idea of her not actually being asleep there and hearing the conversation, and what that could bring to the story - especially as the next update is largely going to focus on Hutch. There was enough in that conversation to give it away from just Christian's side (presuming she wouldn't also be able to hear what Vivian was saying) - he talks about them having sex using words that are explicity clear, so there'd be no assumption needed, and he also uses Hutch's name once. He does also talk about Vivian doing work for him as a consultant, so there's a possibility that Addison (if it was her) could put two and two together when Vivian turns up a couple of days later at the office, although I think her "attitude" was already there before Vivian even introduced herself/said what she was there for, so maybe this was not the cause. If not though, as soon as Vivian does turn up at the office in her role as consultant, Addison (in this scenario) would be able to put it together, even if she doesn't know what Hutch's wife looks like (no photos on his desk, etc.)

For the rest of it though, Hutch is changing job roles, but he's going to be staying the office, I think - there's certainly no need for him being moved to the warehouse, as he wouldn't be in a good place to do his job there. Vivian is "hired" as an outside consultant, meaning she is not an employee, and would therefore not take a place in the office. If she was to work in the office, she would almost certainly have to leave her role as a teacher, and she is unlikely to do that, unless working for Christian is stable enough and lucrative enough to make that risk worth taking. While the money is good compared to her teacher pay, I don't think Vivian (at the moment) wants or expects the consultancy work to go on long term, so it would be a mistake to leave her teaching role for it, I believe.

I sort of get it, because the previews in 0.2 were not just for 0.4 (or Ch2, as it became) - they were for later in the game as well. So I see it as something just in the initial release to whet your appetite for the rest of the game. Dev has said a few times that he already had a good number of Ch3 renders done even before releasing 0.2 (now known as Ch1), so he already had some "future" renders to be able to share, whereas he might not have been in the same position when releasing Ch2 without spoiling upcoming events or just showing us stuff we've basically already seen.

Of course, I think all of us would have liked the preview renders to be a thing though, and for Ch2 to have had a bunch of them at the end as well.

I was curious, so I did some looking and there were 14 previews at the end of 0.2, and if I'm not mistaken, only two of them ended up being in Ch2. Between 0.2 and Ch2, I reckon there were about 16 previews (plus some other images stated as not previews, or teases as "are they/aren't they?") and I think about 12 of those made it into Ch2, a couple of them with some slight alterations (e.g., the preview of Vivian with cum on her back is not in the game, all such shots in the game have Rain in the picture as well). So theoretically, we have something like 15 or 16 previews for the rest of the game already, and a possible idea of how many previews we might get in the lead up to Ch3 (there is no science at all to that last part, as there was no uniformity to timeframe or number of previews released, and they did also start up not long at all after 0.2 was released, whereas we have had no word since Ch2 came out).
I don’t think it was Addison, cause she’s not married yet, Christian is a home wrecker who is out to fuck married women and Cuck there husbands, there’s no one to Cuck with Addison yet :ROFLMAO:
 
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Is it revealed who's the mystery man with a cigarette? It's the most interesting scene to me at this point.
 

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I don’t think it was Addison, cause she’s not married yet, Christian is a home weecker who is out to fuck married women and Cuck there husbands, there’s no one to Cuck with Addison yet :ROFLMAO:
Addison could have a boyfriend (or a husband) - we know almost nothing about her. Pretty much that she's Christian's niece; she's frosty, but sweet when she gets to know you; and she has a soft spot (possibly more than that) for Hutch.

Joking aside (presuming there was at least some joke in your response), do you think that would stop Christian? He might like to go for married women, but there's no indication that he only goes for married women. Again, we only have a small sample of information about Christian's partners/former partners. All we do know about his previous fucks does suggest Addison's mom could be a good shout though.
Is it revealed who's the mystery man with a cigarette? It's the most interesting scene to me at this point.
Not yet. Personally, I have no idea why that's the one image (or pair of images) that has garnered so much interest!
 

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Too much of that is a long shot for me. I would say it's likely that it was Addison in Christian's bed, but that's largely because we have no one else to suggest it might be, so the alternative is "just a random blonde" or my personal favourite "Addison's mother/Christian's sister-in-law". If it is Addison, I like the idea of her not actually being asleep there and hearing the conversation, and what that could bring to the story - especially as the next update is largely going to focus on Hutch. There was enough in that conversation to give it away from just Christian's side (presuming she wouldn't also be able to hear what Vivian was saying) - he talks about them having sex using words that are explicity clear, so there'd be no assumption needed, and he also uses Hutch's name once. He does also talk about Vivian doing work for him as a consultant, so there's a possibility that Addison (if it was her) could put two and two together when Vivian turns up a couple of days later at the office, although I think her "attitude" was already there before Vivian even introduced herself/said what she was there for, so maybe this was not the cause. If not though, as soon as Vivian does turn up at the office in her role as consultant, Addison (in this scenario) would be able to put it together, even if she doesn't know what Hutch's wife looks like (no photos on his desk, etc.)

For the rest of it though, Hutch is changing job roles, but he's going to be staying the office, I think - there's certainly no need for him being moved to the warehouse, as he wouldn't be in a good place to do his job there. Vivian is "hired" as an outside consultant, meaning she is not an employee, and would therefore not take a place in the office. If she was to work in the office, she would almost certainly have to leave her role as a teacher, and she is unlikely to do that, unless working for Christian is stable enough and lucrative enough to make that risk worth taking. While the money is good compared to her teacher pay, I don't think Vivian (at the moment) wants or expects the consultancy work to go on long term, so it would be a mistake to leave her teaching role for it, I believe.

I sort of get it, because the previews in 0.2 were not just for 0.4 (or Ch2, as it became) - they were for later in the game as well. So I see it as something just in the initial release to whet your appetite for the rest of the game. Dev has said a few times that he already had a good number of Ch3 renders done even before releasing 0.2 (now known as Ch1), so he already had some "future" renders to be able to share, whereas he might not have been in the same position when releasing Ch2 without spoiling upcoming events or just showing us stuff we've basically already seen.

Of course, I think all of us would have liked the preview renders to be a thing though, and for Ch2 to have had a bunch of them at the end as well.

I was curious, so I did some looking and there were 14 previews at the end of 0.2, and if I'm not mistaken, only two of them ended up being in Ch2. Between 0.2 and Ch2, I reckon there were about 16 previews (plus some other images stated as not previews, or teases as "are they/aren't they?") and I think about 12 of those made it into Ch2, a couple of them with some slight alterations (e.g., the preview of Vivian with cum on her back is not in the game, all such shots in the game have Rain in the picture as well). So theoretically, we have something like 15 or 16 previews for the rest of the game already, and a possible idea of how many previews we might get in the lead up to Ch3 (there is no science at all to that last part, as there was no uniformity to timeframe or number of previews released, and they did also start up not long at all after 0.2 was released, whereas we have had no word since Ch2 came out).
Addition. But don't just take my word for it, that's just my memory. When Vivian is supposed to send him the selfie, Christian first makes sure the blonde is "asleep." Of course, that can't mean anything.
However, if it's Addison (which I hope not), then the information that Christian slept with Hutch's wife at dinner and that this is one of the reasons he kept his job could be important to her.
After all, the employees knew about the dinner with the boss. The rest would be irrelevant at this point.
I remember the context of office work differently. Your argument with the teacher is possible. However, I understand that she is “only” a part-time teacher. I think Christian said at some point that he'd like her around, doing research, etc.
She then said something like she could do it from home on her laptop.
 

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Addition. But don't just take my word for it, that's just my memory. When Vivian is supposed to send him the selfie, Christian first makes sure the blonde is "asleep." Of course, that can't mean anything.
However, if it's Addison (which I hope not), then the information that Christian slept with Hutch's wife at dinner and that this is one of the reasons he kept his job could be important to her.
After all, the employees knew about the dinner with the boss. The rest would be irrelevant at this point.
I remember the context of office work differently. Your argument with the teacher is possible. However, I understand that she is “only” a part-time teacher. I think Christian said at some point that he'd like her around, doing research, etc.
She then said something like she could do it from home on her laptop.
The order is slightly wrong - he tells Vivian to send him a selfie and she hangs up, then he looks at the blonde.

Vivian's work is definitely consultancy - and as you say, it's something that she says she can do at home on her laptop (even more reason not to have a space in the office). Which bit of the office work do you remember differently though?

For teaching, she is currently a substitute teacher, so presumably can get called on at any time to fill in for a teacher who is off sick, etc. She did say that she can switch to teaching full-time "next semester" now that Sawyer is at college (why she couldn't do that until he is at college, I have no idea), which would normally make me think that she is part-time at the moment. I think maybe that's just my regular understanding of part-time though, whereas her being a substitute teacher would also qualify as part-time work, even though it might not be regular/set hours. She does describe it as practically a full-time job though:
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Does anyone else notice that this game doesn't have a romance tag? Pretty sure that means no mushy shit is coming from this story at all. That's one of the main reasons I don't think Addison and Hutch will have any sort of relationship. I think Hutch might be given a sex worker or something, but I don't think we'll be given anything with him and Vivian or Addison in the story.

I don't think Vivian is interested in romance anymore either, but doesn't realize it yet, or just won't admit it because she legitimately doesn't want to break Hutch's heart. She likes the idea of of a serious relationship, but 20+ years is enough time to determine if something is for you. I think Vivian will only want romance again from Hutch once she eventually does realize just how lonely sexual liberation can be once your home alone, in those quiet moments when there's nobody to comfort you when you suffer a loss, nobody there who genuinely wants time with you just because they can. This shit is tricky, volatile, and most dangerously for all parties unpredictable when one party snaps.

She might believe Hutch will always be there, but he's already gone, he's just in a state of shock, and his real reaction is what I think a lot of people are waiting for which might be what the creator ment when they said it's Hutch's chapter, and it will have what a lot of people are looking for. That question Christian asked Hutch in chapter 1 about would he really want to leave Vivian wasn't encouragement it was manipulation because Vivian would have had no more contact with him had Hutch been thinking clearly and left her.

Vivian has already escalated to blaming Hutch claiming he didn't fight for her, but he did multiple times before she told Hutch she was a big girl. Hutch really had no idea how to fight back or fight for Vivian in that moment but he even grabbed her arm trying to stop it. Chapter 3 will not be some Hutch turning into a fuck boy sex master, but it will be him finally giving us the reaction we should have gotten immediately in chapter 1. Vivian and Hutch are probably going to push each other away before one of them decides to leave, or kick the other out. If this is really Hutch's time to shine I think he'll be the one to finally admit what we can all see. If not Vivian will willingly leave Hutch before eventually returning to a different emotionally developed Hutch.

I don't think Hutch currently has a plan, but he will likely start working to sabotage Christian's company after some big ego bruising event in either chapter 3 or the start of 4. I do think he will miss Vivian, and she will miss Hutch's affection and they'll begrudgingly get back together neither able to forgive the other or move on, they'll realize they don't click with others the same way they used to click with each other.

Vivian will still have her fun and occasionally make money doing it, but Hutch will probably have advanced as a character at that point, he'll either be a cheater himself, or and I hope this isn't his fate become a guy obsessed with his wife with other men. I just don't see an ending where Hutch has a serious relationship with anyone by the end, but I could definitely see Vivian moving in with Christian and whoever he brings into their new dynamic while regretting she won't be in a loving relationship. The reason I thought Hutch would kill himself was because of how good the facial expressions are and the fact the story is supposed to be dark and unforgiving for Hutch.

I also suspect there might be a twist coming with the son, because Vivian saying "He'll turn My son against me" wasn't unintentional. If something wasn't being hinted at that line would have read "our son" unless the writer is fucking with us. It's just too obvious to overlook considering it's pretty much the only thing darker than Vivian stepping out on him.

I mean really ask yourself what can happen to Hutch at this point that's darker than what he's already witnessed/living through.
 
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