VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[noahsombrero]

The deaths thing is like a form of Chekhov's gun, but I think it gets taken to extremes. Yes, you (and your brother) are correct in the principle of it, but it won't always be the case. Here, I think Lagunavii said it well:

For the sake of comparison, I'll keep the idea of the gun: If you see a gun on the wall in the first chapter, the principle of Checkhov's gun tells us that it will be fired at some point. However, sometimes a gun on the wall is just decoration/a reminder of the past, and it will never be touched. Sometimes, an author might deliberately place a gun on the wall just to keep people thinking "when will it be used", even if s/he knows it never will be. In these games, maybe the gun is on the wall just because it's a Daz asset, etc., and the dev hasn't made any conscious choice to include it.

In terms of writing, it's the same thing. Sometimes these little nuances mean something, sometimes they don't. Maybe it's an error by the author, maybe it sounds right where the author lives but sounds wrong to others where they live. Ultimately, I think it's one of those things that we shouldn't read too much into, because we're here to enjoy the game, not to dissect it for an English Literature thesis. And no disrespect to this or any other dev, but we're not dealing with prize-winning authors here. Some devs can write a hell of a story (I do include SC Stories in this category), but I don't think we should expect them to be weaving complicated tales that would make Agatha Christie jealous!


I've played a couple of games where someone is killed, but I can't recall one with suicide (only attempted suicide).

The philosophy major is something I read exactly as is. Vivian was the philosophy major (this goes back to an earlier question on what she studied, where I forgot that this line gives us the answer!) and getting the tattoo is the mistake. She said that she regrets her "tramp stamp" tattoo, but saying the person who got the neck tattoo was a "young philosophy major who made a mistake" suggests she regrets the Poe quote tattoo as well.

Do you mean Sunshine using a strap-on? I get that some people see it differently if it's with another woman, but ultimately, it's still cheating. I do wonder if the nicknames used were specifically chosen to give us Sunshine's final pick-up line in the bar...

Rain: “You named her Orchid?"
Sunshine: “Yes... it fits her. And I am Sunshine."
Rain: “Haha... okay... then who am I?"
Sunshine: “Tonight... you are... Rain."
Rain: “Rain, huh? Why Rain?"
Sunshine: “Because Sunshine alone is not enough to make an Orchid open its petals."
Vivian: “Are you still trying to pick me up?"
Sunshine: “Yes, I am..."

One thing about the Sunshine and Rain episode that hasn't really been mentioned, is that it does open up a potential new path for Vivian - having some more lesbian experiences. Personally, I can't see this being a path that we'll see much, if any, action on, but she did seem to like her time with Sunshine, in particular the kisses. Maybe that does open up the possibility of the (presumably) Addison kiss being a render from the game though...

Thanks for the thoughtful discussion.

I would only add the the bit with Marcel could fall within the dispensable category, but the conversation between Wife and
Boss at the end of chpt 2 does not.

SC Says:
Wife does the wrong thing for the right reason
Wife digs herself into a pit
Can she dig herself out?

I think this is a clear indication of where this game is going. It does not tell me that SC thinks that Wife is totally to blame for everything and deserves no sympathy.

What she deserves remains to be seen. Let's let SC show us that.

 

[Munsterman121]

It doesn't seem to me that SC is copying anybody, movie, book or anything else. This is all brand new. I speculate.

I have my thoughts on this - it was stated previously after Ch1 by a poster (I will search back as to who later) referenced a story on Literotica called February Sucks (there are now over 40 variations of this story and endings I have read about 30 of them).
I respectively submit that there are many similarities: -

1) The Big night - FS, the belated Valentines Day celebration. MHB, Hutch's presentation at boss's house.
2) A Specific Dress - FS, Linda's special blue dress. MHB, dress supplied by Christian.
3) Narcissistic Protagonist - FS, Marc LaValliere aka THE ARSEHOLE. MHB, Christian Langdon aka Asshole.
4) Taking away the wife from hubby - FS - The Arsehole offering his hand & asking Linda "May I have the honor of this dance" She drops husband hand in a flash after earlier stating all her dances were for hubby. MHB, holding out his hand, offering Viv a tour of the house, whilst Hutch does his homework.
5) Separate the wife from Hubby - FS, Manipulation of the band to encourage slow dancing, and convincing wife to leave hubby behind for a night of unbridled passion with The Arsehole. MHB - sex in the yard and later the bedroom. No explanation as to the wife's thinking of surrendering to a superior male.
6) I am still the same loving wife - FS, "Honey I'm home, nothing has changed I am still the same loving wife" after her night of debauchery. MHB - the car trip and later agreeing to "work for Christian".

Etc Etc. I do believe the developer is telling his version of the FS story. I am still not sure if it is homage. Time will tell.

I will not try and predict, where the story will go because I am invested on where SC Stories will take me (us). I'm all in and can't wait for the next chapter.
My thoughts are that Divorce is a given as Viv will become a complete whore and not return home, which will the catalyst for the divorce. I hope that when the Divorce papers are served on Viv an explanation may be offered as to where Hutch went on the day he went missing.

I also find it strange the couple have no support network (friends or Family) to counsel them with their marriage. I don't consider Sunshine and Rain fit the bill.

Thanks for reading.

 

[noahsombrero]

I have my thoughts on this - it was stated previously after Ch1 by a poster (I will search back as to who later) referenced a story on Literotica called February Sucks (there are now over 40 variations of this story and endings I have read about 30 of them).
I respectively submit that there are many similarities: -

1) The Big night - FS, the belated Valentines Day celebration. MHB, Hutch's presentation at boss's house.
2) A Specific Dress - FS, Linda's special blue dress. MHB, dress supplied by Christian.
3) Narcissistic Protagonist - FS, Marc LaValliere aka THE ARSEHOLE. MHB, Christian Langdon aka Asshole.
4) Taking away the wife from hubby - FS - The Arsehole offering his hand & asking Linda "May I have the honor of this dance" She drops husband hand in a flash after earlier stating all her dances were for hubby. MHB, holding out his hand, offering Viv a tour of the house, whilst Hutch does his homework.
5) Separate the wife from Hubby - FS, Manipulation of the band to encourage slow dancing, and convincing wife to leave hubby behind for a night of unbridled passion with The Arsehole. MHB - sex in the yard and later the bedroom. No explanation as to the wife's thinking of surrendering to a superior male.
6) I am still the same loving wife - FS, "Honey I'm home, nothing has changed I am still the same loving wife" after her night of debauchery. MHB - the car trip and later agreeing to "work for Christian".

Etc Etc. I do believe the developer is telling his version of the FS story. I am still not sure if it is homage. Time will tell.

I will not try and predict, where the story will go because I am invested on where SC Stories will take me (us). I'm all in and can't wait for the next chapter.
My thoughts are that Divorce is a given as Viv will become a complete whore and not return home, which will the catalyst for the divorce. I hope that when the Divorce papers are served on Viv an explanation may be offered as to where Hutch went on the day he went missing.

I also find it strange the couple have no support network (friends or Family) to counsel them with their marriage. I don't consider Sunshine and Rain fit the bill.

Thanks for reading.

You seem to not take into account where SC says, Wife has dug herself into a hole, can she dig herself out? You seem to think the the progressive corruption of Wife is a given.

 

[Munsterman121]

You seem to not take into account where SC says, Wife has dug herself into a hole, can she dig herself out? You seem to think the the progressive corruption of Wife is a given.

I'm not too fussed whether I am right or wrong. As I said, I am happy to see where the developer takes me on his story. Whether or not it turns out how I think it will, is on me and me alone. Onward and upward.

 

[noahsombrero]

I'm not too fussed whether I am right or wrong. As I said, I am happy to see where the developer takes me on his story. Whether or not it turns out how I think it will, is on me and me alone. Onward and upward.

I think you could be right if Boss behaves himself, accedes to her demands, does not send her to be raped again. But if that were the case, there would be no need for 3 more chapters. When reading a book, if everything seems resolved half way through, you know more surprises are on the way.

Anyway, it was not my intention to accuse you of being wrong. I was saying, hey, look at this. What do you think?

 

[Adhdclassic]

I have my thoughts on this - it was stated previously after Ch1 by a poster (I will search back as to who later) referenced a story on Literotica called February Sucks (there are now over 40 variations of this story and endings I have read about 30 of them).
I respectively submit that there are many similarities: -

1) The Big night - FS, the belated Valentines Day celebration. MHB, Hutch's presentation at boss's house.
2) A Specific Dress - FS, Linda's special blue dress. MHB, dress supplied by Christian.
3) Narcissistic Protagonist - FS, Marc LaValliere aka THE ARSEHOLE. MHB, Christian Langdon aka Asshole.
4) Taking away the wife from hubby - FS - The Arsehole offering his hand & asking Linda "May I have the honor of this dance" She drops husband hand in a flash after earlier stating all her dances were for hubby. MHB, holding out his hand, offering Viv a tour of the house, whilst Hutch does his homework.
5) Separate the wife from Hubby - FS, Manipulation of the band to encourage slow dancing, and convincing wife to leave hubby behind for a night of unbridled passion with The Arsehole. MHB - sex in the yard and later the bedroom. No explanation as to the wife's thinking of surrendering to a superior male.
6) I am still the same loving wife - FS, "Honey I'm home, nothing has changed I am still the same loving wife" after her night of debauchery. MHB - the car trip and later agreeing to "work for Christian".

Etc Etc. I do believe the developer is telling his version of the FS story. I am still not sure if it is homage. Time will tell.

I will not try and predict, where the story will go because I am invested on where SC Stories will take me (us). I'm all in and can't wait for the next chapter.
My thoughts are that Divorce is a given as Viv will become a complete whore and not return home, which will the catalyst for the divorce. I hope that when the Divorce papers are served on Viv an explanation may be offered as to where Hutch went on the day he went missing.

I also find it strange the couple have no support network (friends or Family) to counsel them with their marriage. I don't consider Sunshine and Rain fit the bill.

Thanks for reading.

She does have family support can't remember if it was a sister she was talking to on the phone. She lied about the family situation. Can only have support if you are telling people what's going on. Communication is the primary problem with this family. Easy to talk to a stranger and tell them everything because if you tell family and friends it brings to light that you don't have a perfect marriage the facade drops and you also risk being called out for your shitty personality.

 

[TonyMurray]

She does have family support can't remember if it was a sister she was talking to on the phone. She lied about the family situation. Can only have support if you are telling people what's going on. Communication is the primary problem with this family. Easy to talk to a stranger and tell them everything because if you tell family and friends it brings to light that you don't have a perfect marriage the facade drops and you also risk being called out for your shitty personality.

I can't remember any phonecall with a sister, but it is wrong to say they have no support network - we just haven't seen any friends and family (outside of Sawyer) because that's not in the scope of the game so far.

 

[kombatchieftan]

This is for me one of the most fundamental questions of the game, we already talked about that way back. I remain convinced, that Hutch is the actual, or let's say primary, target of the bosses actions, at least in a psychological sense. The boss needs the watching third party, the suffering third party to get real satisfaction, otherwise Vivian wouldn't be of interest to him. If you arrange a dinner like that and fuck like that in ch 1 you really want to "destroy" a man. That's the reason he goes after married women in the first place. His remark about Hutch as a workhorse must not be overemphasized, it could have been just to calm Vivian's concern. The dissens in opinion here connects to the discussion about humliation way back - if one takes the position that Vivian isn't consciously willing to risk her hsuband's humiliation, one perhaps also doesn't want to see that intention with the boss - otherwise the game would be a game about humiliation as a whole (and I tend to see it as such).

Exactly, it's the power trip that lights his fire. The fucking is just a bonus.

 

[Canto Forte]

It never was and it never is in this game or in real life. A boss whining about his employee and only seeing the light at the tunnel of discarding him when he blackmails and rapes his wife is a lot of contrivance to a game filled with direct and total aggression towards the husband before, during and after the crimes, so we get these plot red herrings to spice up the tried and true ”bull destroys the wife and the husband with impunity while we cheer him to kingdom come” hard NTR trope that is in full swing. The added bonus of sex slave trafficking her to rapists is just a nod to True Detective season two with Rachel Macadams and Colin Farrell—where the power trip Stockholm Syndroms some of the girls, those who survive, that is. Great game to be out during the Puffy Puff trial and allegations tho.

Exactly, it's the power trip that lights his fire. The fucking is just a bonus.

the game would be a game about humiliation as a whole (and I tend to see it as such).

 

[kombatchieftan]

I have my thoughts on this - it was stated previously after Ch1 by a poster (I will search back as to who later) referenced a story on Literotica called February Sucks (there are now over 40 variations of this story and endings I have read about 30 of them).
I respectively submit that there are many similarities: -

1) The Big night - FS, the belated Valentines Day celebration. MHB, Hutch's presentation at boss's house.
2) A Specific Dress - FS, Linda's special blue dress. MHB, dress supplied by Christian.
3) Narcissistic Protagonist - FS, Marc LaValliere aka THE ARSEHOLE. MHB, Christian Langdon aka Asshole.
4) Taking away the wife from hubby - FS - The Arsehole offering his hand & asking Linda "May I have the honor of this dance" She drops husband hand in a flash after earlier stating all her dances were for hubby. MHB, holding out his hand, offering Viv a tour of the house, whilst Hutch does his homework.
5) Separate the wife from Hubby - FS, Manipulation of the band to encourage slow dancing, and convincing wife to leave hubby behind for a night of unbridled passion with The Arsehole. MHB - sex in the yard and later the bedroom. No explanation as to the wife's thinking of surrendering to a superior male.
6) I am still the same loving wife - FS, "Honey I'm home, nothing has changed I am still the same loving wife" after her night of debauchery. MHB - the car trip and later agreeing to "work for Christian".

Etc Etc. I do believe the developer is telling his version of the FS story. I am still not sure if it is homage. Time will tell.

I will not try and predict, where the story will go because I am invested on where SC Stories will take me (us). I'm all in and can't wait for the next chapter.
My thoughts are that Divorce is a given as Viv will become a complete whore and not return home, which will the catalyst for the divorce. I hope that when the Divorce papers are served on Viv an explanation may be offered as to where Hutch went on the day he went missing.

I also find it strange the couple have no support network (friends or Family) to counsel them with their marriage. I don't consider Sunshine and Rain fit the bill.

Thanks for reading.

Good call out. I didn't make that connection, but you're right, I can see the parallels.

FYI, it's more like over 90 versions and offshoots of the Feb Sux story on Literotica. The author WordsIntheWyld recently submitted a version called "The Ides of March" and its sequel, that come from a different angle. Really good.

 

[Munsterman121]

Good call out. I didn't make that connection, but you're right, I can see the parallels.

FYI, it's more like over 90 versions and offshoots of the Feb Sux story on Literotica. The author WordsIntheWyld recently submitted a version called "The Ides of March" and its sequel, that come from a different angle. Really good.

Yes, I have read that also - quite enjoyed it - marked it as a favorite.

 

[Sparta VI]

On the whole, this is a simple story, and I just don't see these big convoluted theories playing out.

The deaths thing is like a form of Chekhov's gun, but I think it gets taken to extremes. Yes, you (and your brother) are correct in the principle of it, but it won't always be the case. Here, I think Lagunavii said it well:
For the sake of comparison, I'll keep the idea of the gun: If you see a gun on the wall in the first chapter, the principle of Checkhov's gun tells us that it will be fired at some point. However, sometimes a gun on the wall is just decoration/a reminder of the past, and it will never be touched. Sometimes, an author might deliberately place a gun on the wall just to keep people thinking "when will it be used", even if s/he knows it never will be. In these games, maybe the gun is on the wall just because it's a Daz asset, etc., and the dev hasn't made any conscious choice to include it.

Out of curiosity, I have a question about Chekhov's weapon theory. Where would you theoretically see it in Episode 1? And does it always involve objects, or also people or places?

In terms of writing, it's the same thing. Sometimes these little nuances mean something, sometimes they don't. Maybe it's an error by the author, maybe it sounds right where the author lives but sounds wrong to others where they live. Ultimately, I think it's one of those things that we shouldn't read too much into, because we're here to enjoy the game, not to dissect it for an English Literature thesis. And no disrespect to this or any other dev, but we're not dealing with prize-winning authors here. Some devs can write a hell of a story (I do include SC Stories in this category), but I don't think we should expect them to be weaving complicated tales that would make Agatha Christie jealous!

You've written some really good things here. Since both the developer and we come from different parts of the world, we perceive the story differently.
On the second point: I think it's something very special when someone comes out of nowhere, is a hobby developer, delivers a game of such quality, and tries to bring in fresh, new elements.

The philosophy major is something I read exactly as is. Vivian was the philosophy major (this goes back to an earlier question on what she studied, where I forgot that this line gives us the answer!) and getting the tattoo is the mistake. She said that she regrets her "tramp stamp" tattoo, but saying the person who got the neck tattoo was a "young philosophy major who made a mistake" suggests she regrets the Poe quote tattoo as well.

Okay. I'm really curious about the background of the Poe quote tattoo and why she regrets it.

Do you mean Sunshine using a strap-on? I get that some people see it differently if it's with another woman, but ultimately, it's still cheating.

Yes, exactly, that was my first thought. (or another alternative). Legally speaking, you are right. Emotionally speaking, however, the matter can be viewed in a more nuanced way.

I do wonder if the nicknames used were specifically chosen to give us Sunshine's final pick-up line in the bar...

Rain: “You named her Orchid?"
Sunshine: “Yes... it fits her. And I am Sunshine."
Rain: “Haha... okay... then who am I?"
Sunshine: “Tonight... you are... Rain."
Rain: “Rain, huh? Why Rain?"
Sunshine: “Because Sunshine alone is not enough to make an Orchid open its petals."
Vivian: “Are you still trying to pick me up?"
Sunshine: “Yes, I am..."

Yes, i believe so.

One thing about the Sunshine and Rain episode that hasn't really been mentioned, is that it does open up a potential new path for Vivian - having some more lesbian experiences. Personally, I can't see this being a path that we'll see much, if any, action on, but she did seem to like her time with Sunshine, in particular the kisses. Maybe that does open up the possibility of the (presumably) Addison kiss being a render from the game though...

You're right. I think that's one of the reasons why Luc mentioned the picture with the two blondes so often.
I have to admit, the kissing scenes were really well done, even if the camera angle wasn't always ideal.

 

[Lagunavii]

Out of curiosity, I have a question about Chekhov's weapon theory. Where would you theoretically see it in Episode 1? And does it always involve objects, or also people or places?

It could be anywhere or anything really, it doesn't really need to be in Episode 1.

An example I can give you that may be a chekovs gun is the "tramp stamp" in episode 2. Given the "lore" around them in the real world people have used it to say that Vivian was always a slut,with a huge body count. Now that may go off in the future and people be proven right. But a Tony pointed out, just because a gun is introduced in chapter 1 doesn't mean it will go off in chapter 10, authors do like to go against expectations some times.

 

[TonyMurray]

Out of curiosity, I have a question about Chekhov's weapon theory. Where would you theoretically see it in Episode 1? And does it always involve objects, or also people or places?

The timing isn't the relevant part, it's the item itself. The principle basically says that in writing every element should be necessary to the story, and any irrelevant aspects should be removed. It's harder to follow to the letter in visual media because there will always be things in the background, and sometimes transitions and fades will seem to focus on something just because it is there, but these things don't necessarily mean anything. A lot of the time in these games, people focus on who is in the background in certain scenes, but with the availability (at cost) of Daz assets, and the need to fill a scene to make it look natural, more often than not a background character is just a background character, and their presence isn't some important clue to an upcoming plot point.

Okay. I'm really curious about the background of the Poe quote tattoo and why she regrets it.

My guess is that it's nothing important. She read the poem as a student and liked it, and she decided to get a tattoo of the "chorus line". Later, she came to regret the decision, as it's something that she can't (easily) change now, she no longer likes the poem/quote, or she just doesn't like that she has a tattoo, or one in such a visible location. I guess that she just sees it as one of those things you do when you're younger, but she would never do now - she was just "a young philosophy major who made a mistake."

You're right. I think that's one of the reasons why Luc mentioned the picture with the two blondes so often.
I have to admit, the kissing scenes were really well done, even if the camera angle wasn't always ideal.

I still think the "KISS" render will not be from the game, and will think that until either something in the game itself or some previews from the dev suggest otherwise. Obviously it's a possible path though, but if Vivian takes that route, I don't see it being with Addison - unless there's some proper development of the story between Christian and Addison, and some "believable" plot reason for him to make Vivian and Addison do it. I can't see it being a natural/romantic/exploratory thing between just Vivian and Addison, and the only other thing I can think of is a "show" for Hutch - Vivian bringing in Addison as a "gift" for him, and maybe replaying her evening with Sunshine and Rain, but with herself taking the role of Sunshine, and Addison taking Vivian's role. I don't know if that's more or less likely than Christian making them do lesbian (or threesome) stuff, but I'd certainly like to see how that would play out for story reasons!

Of course, you don't only get assets that are re-used, but sometimes renders are re-used as well, with little changes between the two, the "KISS" render is the same as one of the kiss renders between Sunshine and Vivian at Sunshine and Rain's house. I've put the two images in the spoiler below, with the third image being the two overlaid, where you can see the positioning is identical for Vivian and only slightly different for the other woman:

Spoiler: KISS KISS

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To me, this suggests that the dev had made the render for the game, and then trolled us by replacing Sunshine's model with Addison's and whipping up another render as one of his "None of these are canon, Or are they, One is I think... maybe, Shit, I can't remember" "previews".

 

[noahsombrero]

I'm came here this morning and am glad to see that nobody is hating or harping on Wife as the big baddie with Boss getting acknowledgement for having a minor part in the plot.

It never was and it never is in this game or in real life. A boss whining about his employee and only seeing the light at the tunnel of discarding him when he blackmails and rapes his wife is a lot of contrivance to a game filled with direct and total aggression towards the husband before, during and after the crimes, so we get these plot red herrings to spice up the tried and true ”bull destroys the wife and the husband with impunity while we cheer him to kingdom come” hard NTR trope that is in full swing. The added bonus of sex slave trafficking her to rapists is just a nod to True Detective season two with Rachel Macadams and Colin Farrell—where the power trip Stockholm Syndroms some of the girls, those who survive, that is. Great game to be out during the Puffy Puff trial and allegations tho.

I don't agree with a lot of this, but I think it comes closer to a real description than a lot I have seen here.

"bull destroys the wife and the husband with impunity while we cheer him to kingdom come"

Well not exactly cheer him, more like say, yep he is evil and then ignore him.

I say take Canto's description and then ask, like SC does, can Wife dig herself out? That is the glory of this story if she can and the dark darkness if she can not. How can it be dark if Wife wants it and deserves it? I'd say that SC's suggestion that she will try tells us what she really wants. How horrible to see the evil forces in life tear her life up and throw it away. Also kinda real life too.

 

[edmundus]

any recommendation for this type of game/genre??

 

[Sparta VI]

It could be anywhere or anything really, it doesn't really need to be in Episode 1.
An example I can give you that may be a chekovs gun is the "tramp stamp" in episode 2. Given the "lore" around them in the real world people have used it to say that Vivian was always a slut,with a huge body count. Now that may go off in the future and people be proven right. But a Tony pointed out, just because a gun is introduced in chapter 1 doesn't mean it will go off in chapter 10, authors do like to go against expectations some times.

The timing isn't the relevant part, it's the item itself. The principle basically says that in writing every element should be necessary to the story, and any irrelevant aspects should be removed. It's harder to follow to the letter in visual media because there will always be things in the background, and sometimes transitions and fades will seem to focus on something just because it is there, but these things don't necessarily mean anything. A lot of the time in these games, people focus on who is in the background in certain scenes, but with the availability (at cost) of Daz assets, and the need to fill a scene to make it look natural, more often than not a background character is just a background character, and their presence isn't some important clue to an upcoming plot point.

In my opinion, Chekhov's weapon theory does not apply to this tattoo example at all, as everything currently speaks against it. Unless she is lying, which I do not believe.

Yes, I agree with dazn assett. However, not all participants know which content is paid, free, or self-designed.

My guess is that it's nothing important. She read the poem as a student and liked it, and she decided to get a tattoo of the "chorus line". Later, she came to regret the decision, as it's something that she can't (easily) change now, she no longer likes the poem/quote, or she just doesn't like that she has a tattoo, or one in such a visible location. I guess that she just sees it as one of those things you do when you're younger, but she would never do now - she was just "a young philosophy major who made a mistake."

I don't know yet. The Poe tattoo is shown more often in certain small situations (but perhaps only for visual/aesthetic reasons). I'm leaving myself a back door open here.
So you attach more significance to the second tattoo? As Dealbreaker interpreted it?

I still think the "KISS" render will not be from the game, and will think that until either something in the game itself or some previews from the dev suggest otherwise. Obviously it's a possible path though, but if Vivian takes that route, I don't see it being with Addison - unless there's some proper development of the story between Christian and Addison, and some "believable" plot reason for him to make Vivian and Addison do it. I can't see it being a natural/romantic/exploratory thing between just Vivian and Addison, and the only other thing I can think of is a "show" for Hutch - Vivian bringing in Addison as a "gift" for him, and maybe replaying her evening with Sunshine and Rain, but with herself taking the role of Sunshine, and Addison taking Vivian's role. I don't know if that's more or less likely than Christian making them do lesbian (or threesome) stuff, but I'd certainly like to see how that would play out for story reasons!

Of course, you don't only get assets that are re-used, but sometimes renders are re-used as well, with little changes between the two, the "KISS" render is the same as one of the kiss renders between Sunshine and Vivian at Sunshine and Rain's house. I've put the two images in the spoiler below, with the third image being the two overlaid, where you can see the positioning is identical for Vivian and only slightly different for the other woman:

Spoiler: KISS KISS

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To me, this suggests that the dev had made the render for the game, and then trolled us by replacing Sunshine's model with Addison's and whipping up another render as one of his "None of these are canon, Or are they, One is I think... maybe, Shit, I can't remember" "previews".

Yes, I also noticed the image comparison immediately. However, I deliberately ignored it.
I really like your idea for the Hutch Show. (I just hope it doesn't fail because of a vascular disease, circulatory or gastrointestinal problems .)

 

[Lagunavii]

In my opinion, Chekhov's weapon theory does not apply to this tattoo example at all, as everything currently speaks against it. Unless she is lying, which I do not believe.

But that's been the problem now for weeks, months even. Alot of people have been seeing things like the tattoo, background characters and other things and arguing that SC wouldn't put it in if it wasn't important and wildly speculating to the point of argument.

Now both me and Tony said the other day that SC is actually a good writer, and as Tony went on to elaborate... We are dealing with an AVN not some prize winning Agatha Christie novel. While there may well be reasons for things here and there, not everything is going to have meaning here. AVNs, despite how good an author is writing them, tend to be a lot simpler that the usual rules that apply to literature.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

The timing isn't the relevant part, it's the item itself. The principle basically says that in writing every element should be necessary to the story, and any irrelevant aspects should be removed. It's harder to follow to the letter in visual media because there will always be things in the background, and sometimes transitions and fades will seem to focus on something just because it is there, but these things don't necessarily mean anything. A lot of the time in these games, people focus on who is in the background in certain scenes, but with the availability (at cost) of Daz assets, and the need to fill a scene to make it look natural, more often than not a background character is just a background character, and their presence isn't some important clue to an upcoming plot point.

My guess is that it's nothing important. She read the poem as a student and liked it, and she decided to get a tattoo of the "chorus line". Later, she came to regret the decision, as it's something that she can't (easily) change now, she no longer likes the poem/quote, or she just doesn't like that she has a tattoo, or one in such a visible location. I guess that she just sees it as one of those things you do when you're younger, but she would never do now - she was just "a young philosophy major who made a mistake."

I still think the "KISS" render will not be from the game, and will think that until either something in the game itself or some previews from the dev suggest otherwise. Obviously it's a possible path though, but if Vivian takes that route, I don't see it being with Addison - unless there's some proper development of the story between Christian and Addison, and some "believable" plot reason for him to make Vivian and Addison do it. I can't see it being a natural/romantic/exploratory thing between just Vivian and Addison, and the only other thing I can think of is a "show" for Hutch - Vivian bringing in Addison as a "gift" for him, and maybe replaying her evening with Sunshine and Rain, but with herself taking the role of Sunshine, and Addison taking Vivian's role. I don't know if that's more or less likely than Christian making them do lesbian (or threesome) stuff, but I'd certainly like to see how that would play out for story reasons!

Of course, you don't only get assets that are re-used, but sometimes renders are re-used as well, with little changes between the two, the "KISS" render is the same as one of the kiss renders between Sunshine and Vivian at Sunshine and Rain's house. I've put the two images in the spoiler below, with the third image being the two overlaid, where you can see the positioning is identical for Vivian and only slightly different for the other woman:

Spoiler: KISS KISS

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To me, this suggests that the dev had made the render for the game, and then trolled us by replacing Sunshine's model with Addison's and whipping up another render as one of his "None of these are canon, Or are they, One is I think... maybe, Shit, I can't remember" "previews".

Don’t see Vivian ever gifting Addison to hutchy mccucky, we’re you stoned when you wrote that?

why in the blue hell would Vivian try to give Addison to him? Addison doesn’t even like her and Vivian does not share well.
Don’t you remember her conversation with Rain about swinging and she flipped the fuck out saying something like she doesn’t even want to think of hutchy with another girl let alone let him be with one

 

[TonyMurray]

In my opinion, Chekhov's weapon theory does not apply to this tattoo example at all, as everything currently speaks against it. Unless she is lying, which I do not believe.

Yes, I agree with dazn assett. However, not all participants know which content is paid, free, or self-designed.

I don't know yet. The Poe tattoo is shown more often in certain small situations (but perhaps only for visual/aesthetic reasons). I'm leaving myself a back door open here.
So you attach more significance to the second tattoo? As Dealbreaker interpreted it?

I attach no significance at all to the tramp stamp tattoo.

Chekhov's gun is not something that relates to the tattoos, if anything, we're talking people here, with the mechanic, the twins, Marcel, etc. (although I do not subscribe to that either).

Don’t see Vivian ever gifting Addison to hutchy mccucky, we’re you stoned when you wrote that?
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why in the blue hell would Vivian try to give Addison to him? Addison doesn’t even like her and Vivian does not share well.
Don’t you remember her conversation with Rain about swinging and she flipped the fuck out saying something like she doesn’t even want to think of hutchy with another girl let alone let him be with one

I didn't say it's what I thought would happen, I was just referring to the KISS "preview" and was saying after x and y, this is the only other thing I can think of if it were to be an actual render from the game. I also said I didn't know which was more likely (and therefore which was less likely), between that and Vivian and Addison kissing through Christian's involvement. I've said a few times that I do not believe this render is an actual preview from the game, and that I saw no way that Vivian and Addison would be getting intimate, and I also said in the same post you refer to that it's most likely just a re-used render that has been amended to troll us.