GibboBtw

Active Member
Jul 7, 2024
756
1,726
172
agreed.... except if in the last chapter Christian is conquered and Hutch s the man and then Vivian looks at him as her savior.... say come and claim me ! otherwise... No...
Imma be honest here dude, IMO. I give that a 0% chance of happening...:LOL:

The next chapter is gonna be the big reveal of how this one is gonna go. And I think that what you're describing of the "MC eventually saving the FMC from the big bad corruptor" is just not the vibe I'm getting from this game...:ROFLMAO:

I'm still leaning towards the, Vivian "convincing" Hutch into becoming a reluctant cuck, who's just gonna be a miserable wimp for the rest of the game, until he eventually snaps and commits neck+rope. Or perhaps he does a nice bridge+swanton bomb combo...:LOL:

Which, WOULD be a sick render ngl...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I mean look at this, and then tell me Hutch doing it off a bridge, wouldn't slap...:love::ROFLMAO:
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: _YD__

_YD__

Member
Aug 3, 2017
297
227
203
Imma be honest here dude, IMO. I give that a 0% chance of happening...:LOL:

The next chapter is gonna be the big reveal of how this one is gonna go. And I think that what you're describing of the "MC eventually saving the FMC from the big bad corruptor" is just not the vibe I'm getting from this game...:ROFLMAO:

I'm still leaning towards the, Vivian "convincing" Hutch into becoming a reluctant cuck, who's just gonna be a miserable wimp for the rest of the game, until he eventually snaps and commits neck+rope. Or perhaps he does a nice bridge+swanton bomb combo...:LOL:

Which, WOULD be a sick render ngl...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I mean look at this and tell me, Hutch doing this off a bridge, wouldn't slap...:love::ROFLMAO:
Thought you were on the Hutch side and I think it was you that said I was a sadist because I'm thinking of Christian as an opportunist? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: GibboBtw

noahsombrero

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2023
1,137
465
191
Clearly, if Kylie were suppressed the conflict would be resolved. Fully agree.

The story evolves, it is far away from a solution. Christian will provide enough activities to test/increase Kylie's obedience and submission. Kylie will be eager to prove that she won't be broken. Every adventure she completes will give her more and more satisfaction; she longs for the feeling being powerful. (I do not know, but I expect that the actual plot will go exactly in this direction. Sex with Christian would only be a fling on the side - also a little reward for his efforts. Kylie would never consider to marry Christian - she uses him and likes to be used.)

Without Hutch, this would last up to a point of no return. Kylie is owned by Christian. Vivian senses this and Hutch is her only anchor. She knows what she burdens him with. This causes her great discomfort. Hutch and his love is her last bastion to resist this. And finally Kylie - maybe due to a real bad experience - realizes (with the help of Hutch) that it is beyond any reasonable boundaries. And then her new life (hopefully with Hutch) can begin.
Yes, this is where I see the game at. Either Boss behaves himself participating in establishing an enduring relationship with Wife of some kind, or Wife must return to Husband and seek reconciliation.

I think a lot of guys here would not consider forgiving Wife, they see her as irredeemable in any case. As for me personally, I would forgive her but the bar would be very high:
She must make a full confession
She must beg and cry to be forgiven. Show some real emotion
She must never see or be in the presence of Boss again
She must sleep on the couch for a year or so.

That means no sex for her from anybody for a year. I want her to show me that she has the self control to do that. Punishment is not what I would want. I would carefully explain that. My heart cries for you Wife, I still love you madly. But you have fucked up big time. I need to know you will not do this to me again.

I think the most likely thing is that Boss/Wife can establish an enduring long term relationship with clear boundaries of what they will accept from each other.
Boss will be faithful and never send her to be raped again.
Wife will divorce Husband and allow Boss to take the premier place in her heart. She will love only him.
 

jon_hoe

New Member
Jul 29, 2025
7
5
3
I might have had a little 2 much to drink cause I really am not getting what you are saying. So plot 3a is well nothing.
3b is Hutch getting cucked. So Hutch is fucked in all scenario's. 3b sounds hot :ROFLMAO:
I see our difference lies in a different interpretation of cuckold. In my interpretation, a cuck is someone who leaves his wife to others for his own pleasure. Cuckolds often experience additional pleasure when they are edged and prevented from finishing. For some cucks humiliation is also desired to increase pleasure. All this things are not valid for Hutch (sacrifice). Remember, Hutch can't stop it without losing Vivian. For Hutch, this situation is anything but pleasant. He hopes this only lasts for a while... It is a true love story.

3a is to explain that swinging is not an option. Brian/Becca/Rika are only a limited option. But 3a could suggest some options outside of Hutch's love life to make his life (yes, he is fucked) a little easier. Maybe out of 3a a Hutch's story could evolve. But maybe this is boring and 3a is short.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: _YD__

GibboBtw

Active Member
Jul 7, 2024
756
1,726
172
Thought you were on the Hutch side and I think it was you that said I was a sadist because I'm thinking of Christian as an opportunist? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
I am a great Hutch supporter yes :LOL:, and I wish great things for him. Such as fucking off his cheating ass wife and getting somebody new...

But I am also a realist, and therefore am not going to get my hopes up that there is anything good waiting for him down the line...:ROFLMAO:

So he could at least make his sadness kinda funny...instead of just being a wimp.
 
  • Like
Reactions: _YD__

noahsombrero

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2023
1,137
465
191
I see our difference lies in a different interpretation of cuckold. In my interpretation, a cuck is someone who leaves his wife to others for his own pleasure. Cuckolds often experience additional pleasure when they are edged and prevented from finishing. For some cucks humiliation is also desired to increase pleasure. All this things are not valid for Hutch (sacrifice). Remember, Hutch can't stop it without losing Vivian. For Hutch, this situation is anything but pleasant. He hopes this only lasts for a while... It is a true love story.
True love story. Yes, there is a reason why their marriage has lasted 22 years. The really do love each other. And wife cannot bear the thought of him having sex with another woman. Such conflicting emotions. I think this is the essence of SC's story. People must in essence confront themselves, sort out what is real and act consistently with that. Sort of like overcoming addiction and probably not a bit easier.
 

_YD__

Member
Aug 3, 2017
297
227
203
I see our difference lies in a different interpretation of cuckold. In my interpretation, a cuck is someone who leaves his wife to others for his own pleasure. Cuckolds often experience additional pleasure when they are edged and prevented from finishing. For some cucks humiliation is also desired to increase pleasure. All this things are not valid for Hutch (sacrifice). Remember, Hutch can't stop it without losing Vivian. For Hutch, this situation is anything but pleasant. He hopes this only lasts for a while... It is a true love story.
euhm. Are you saying he isn't a cuck cause he doesn't get pleasure out of it? Because that is what I have been saying the whole time. That is also why I think the story is more interesting then other ntr games.
 
Last edited:

_YD__

Member
Aug 3, 2017
297
227
203
I am a great Hutch supporter yes :LOL:, and I wish great things for him. Such as fucking off his cheating ass wife and getting somebody new...

But I am also a realist, and therefore am not going to get my hopes up that there is anything good waiting for him down the line...:ROFLMAO:

So he could at least make his sadness kinda funny...instead of just being a wimp.
and Christian is just an opportunist :ROFLMAO: :LOL:
 

GibboBtw

Active Member
Jul 7, 2024
756
1,726
172
Aaaaand now we're discussing something so far removed from the game that it becomes difficult to figure out whether the conversation is regarding canon, theory, or fanfic topics...
Eh it's not so hard to follow who's doing what. They're discussing that guys fanfic plot. I am making the prediction that Hutch will be dead af by the ending of the actual plot...(y):ROFLMAO:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: La Dani and _YD__

noahsombrero

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2023
1,137
465
191
In the establishment of an enduring relationship for Boss/Wife, the requirements for Boss are not so bad if he wants to have that relationship. Be faithful and don't send her to be raped.

But Boss says Wife must divorce Husband. So here it is, she must choose. And when she steps up to do the divorce, her heart will tell her whether she really really wants to do that. If she can't bear to think of him fucking another woman, can she bear to divorce him? There is no escape Wife, you really must choose. And if Boss turns out to be the rotten long term partner that he surely will, you must then live with the consequences of that. Husband is now gone.

So confront yourself, Wife. Is sex with this serial homewrecker really that good? If you really want to get rid of Husband, couldn't you find a better replacement candidate than Boss? I bet you could. The moment has arrived. What do you choose?
 
Last edited:
  • Wow
Reactions: kombatchieftan

DarkArchon

Member
May 9, 2017
241
497
271
That is something I really don't get. How is it that being used and abused gives someone the feeling to be empowered?
I think you are correct here. Vivian thinking her humiliation makes her feel powerful is a manipulation of Christian. He has her so messed up and wrapped around his little finger, he could tell her anything and have her believing it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: _YD__ and JoeBlogs

noahsombrero

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2023
1,137
465
191
I think you are correct here. Vivian thinking her humiliation makes her feel powerful is a manipulation of Christian. He has her so messed up and wrapped around his little finger, he could tell her anything and have her believing it.
Boss did not tell her that. She told him that when *he asks her* how she felt. In context with the rest of what she said it all becomes significant. She said that she thought the rapist would break her, but he could not. She even realized that Boss could not break her. Which lead him to ask what she wants from him. That taken with their conversation after the sex where she makes a number of demands shows a side of her we have not seen before. He is no longer wrapping her around his finger. He is listening to her demand that they will not speak of the escort event again for instance. As she leaves her expression is satisfied. She believes she has made her demands and that he will accept them. Maybe he will.

And then he will have his own demands. If you want me to be loving and gentle with you (not sexually. She likes it rough) then you must divorce husband and let me have the premier place in your heart. You must love me as I am to love you.

Yes, this is all very much out of character for Boss. I am imagining how they might put together an enduring relationship. Maybe they will. Or maybe Wife will return to Husband and seek reconciliation when that fails to materialize because Boss tries to reassert his dominance or Wife realizes she cannot bring herself to divorce Husband.

I refuse to consign her to the ash pit of dark dark fantasyland unless SC takes the game that way, which he might. But right now, none of us knows where this is going. Any certainties are tentative and premature. Certainly I believe that simply discarding whatever Wife says is premature.
 
Last edited:

JoeBlogs

Member
Nov 18, 2017
275
619
239
Project update

Not abandoned. Just needed a break.

Where have I been?
After pushing to release Chapter 2 and then having a lot of negative comments and review bombs I had to step away for a while. I knew people would leave the story over time, I just didn't think they'd make as much noise as they did when they left. However, based on the number of forum pages, I see there is still an active/loyal fan base and I appreciate you guys. But I can't bring myself to look at the reviews or go back and read all of the earlier posts for the sake of my own sanity. I still view this thread as belonging to you guys and I'm just a visitor but I'll participate a bit more and respond to questions and DM's when I can (No I won't tell you when the update is coming out. No I won't give away the plot.)

What have I been doing?
Mostly just working my house, lots of little projects I've neglected lately. I've also been do some writing on another story. It won't ever been rendered or made public but I like the creative process of building out the characters, plotting the story line and world building. I like taking some of those ideas and building test scenes in Daz to get a feel if my vision is possible. That's why a lot of MHB was rendered out of sequence. An idea gets me excited and I flesh out a test scene and next thing I know I'm rendering an entire scene.

What's the status of MHB?
The last couple weeks I've gotten back into the story. I've been going over the outline/script and starting to refine it more and finalizing the dialog. A subtle change in Chapter 1 or 2 can propagate through the story so I'm having to reconcile some things in Ch3 while still moving toward a known finale. I've also been working on doing the setup work for the next few scenes in Daz. Each scene needs the location, environment, characters, wardrobe, and accessories figured out plus a rough setting of cameras and lighting before any final posing and rendering can happen. I kind of like that process but I can easily spend an entire day just doing the setup of one scene. But I'm planning and starting to render this week.

Chapter 3 and beyond
Yes, a good chunk was already rendered but there is still a lot to do. Yes, this still deals a lot more with Hutch and I'm looking forward to tackling a complicated character, trying to convey the emotions welling within him. There are still some sexy scenes but fewer, making it much easier to render (sex scenes are fundamental to the story but they are not fun to make). It's hard to predict the amount of content that'll actually end up in the chapter but I'm guessing Chapter 3 will be about the same size as Chapter 2. I predict 4 will be a little smaller and 5 will be the shortest concentrating on just the finale. I originally had numerous gratuitous scenes that I'm cutting out so I can focus on the meat of the story. I think it makes the main story better and I think it's what the real fans want. Plus it simply cuts down on production time. I'm not trimming anything that drives the story, just the extra fluff.

So there you have it. Thanks for your patience and thanks for the well wishes some of you sent my way. Now it's time to get back to work.
Stick to your vision, I may not agree with how the characters are developing or will be developed in the future, but that's the way the story goes.
I'm also happy that you are deciding to stick to the meat of the story and trim the fat, as I always said, the story is the king in this game, no real need for embellishment.

Cheers!
 

DarkArchon

Member
May 9, 2017
241
497
271
Boss did not tell her that. She told him. In context with the rest of what she said it all becomes significant. She said that she thought the rapist would break her, but he could not. She even realized that Boss could not break her. Which lead him to ask what she wants from him. That taken with their conversation after the sex where she makes a number of demands shows a side of her we have not seen before. He is no longer wrapping her around his finger. He is listening to her demand that they will not speak of the escort event again. As she leaves her expression is satisfied. She believes she has made her demands and that he will accept them. Maybe he will.

And then he will have his own demands. If you want me to be loving and gentle with you (not sexually. She likes it rough) then you must divorce husband and let me have the premier place in your heart. You must love me as I am to love you.

Yes, this is all very much out of character for Boss. I am imagining how they might put together an enduring relationship. Maybe they will. Or maybe Wife will return to Husband and seek reconciliation if that fails to materialize..

I refuse to consign her to the ash pit of dark dark fantasyland unless SC takes the game that way, which he might. But right now, none of us knows where this is going. Any certainties are tentative and premature.
Christian is manipulating her. The idea that she felt powerful is ridiculous. The author does not only tell you what is going on through the dialogue, you also have to look at the facial expressions and body language of the people. I don't believe in simping for Vivian, and I am certainly not going simp for her to the extent that it blinds me to what is obviously going on with her.

She isn't feeling powerful here, she is crying due to the humiliation.
1754018765413.png

Here she is freaking out because she was just traumatized.
1754018890898.png
1754018956174.png

Look at the expression on her face.
1754019014197.png
Here she is angry and traumatized, and watch how easily Christian flips it around on her.
1754019091106.png
Now the expression of what is really going on with her comes out. The look and behavior of a humiliated woman. No trace of her feeling powerful in the look on her face or in what she says.
1754019308692.png
Does she look like she feels powerful here?
1754019364710.png
How about here?
1754019420373.png
Are these the words of someone who feels powerful?
1754019787935.png
1754020110973.png
1754019631129.png

You are only correct in that SC Stories can take the story in whatever direction he or she chooses to do. That is the choice of the author. I am not dealing with what SC Stories might do in the future. I am dealing with what SC Stories has already shown us in the story through the BEHAVIOR and dialogue of the characters. Vivian is not always reliable in what she says. She lies to others, and she lies to HERSELF. There is no evidence, at this point, that she is not wrapped around Christian's little finger. That could change in the future, but it OBVIOUSLY has not happened yet as the above picture makes it CLEAR.
 

noahsombrero

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2023
1,137
465
191
Christian is manipulating her. The idea that she felt powerful is ridiculous.
And I say it is a mistake to simply dismiss what she says. Yes, what he did to her was a profound betrayal. She is entitled to say so. That does not deny how she says she felt. She felt that and then later she demands that he will never speak of the escort event again. She found her power and she is using it to tell him what she will accept in the future.
You are only correct in that SC Stories can take the story in whatever direction he or she chooses to do. That is the choice of the author. I am not dealing with what SC Stories might do in the future. I am dealing with what SC Stories has already shown us in the story through the BEHAVIOR and dialogue of the characters. Vivian is not always reliable in what she says. She lies to others, and she lies to HERSELF. There is no evidence, at this point, that she is not wrapped around Christian's little finger. That could change in the future, but it OBVIOUSLY has not happened yet as the above picture makes it CLEAR.
That picture is a very small part of their interchange that evening. Taken all together it can add up as I suggest if you can grant that she is not simply a mindless bimbo. For instance it is possible to imagine that when she says he owns her, she is offering him something in exchange for the demands she makes. I suspect she would also like him to get busy so she can have her climax. This is actually an unfair time to try to discuss something like that, so shut up and get busy.

You are only correct... None of us is correct. We are all guessing.

As for my opinions:
If she had jumped the mechanic's bones, I would agree with you guys, that would make her a whore, bitch, slut.
If she had returned from being raped and thanked him for the good fuck, and then said, lets go to bed so you can finish me off, I would say you guys are right, Boss is in complete control of her mind. She will believe anything, do anything.
 
Last edited:

DarkArchon

Member
May 9, 2017
241
497
271
And I say it is a mistake to simply dismiss what she says. Yes, what he did to her was a profound betrayal. She is entitled to say so. That does not deny how she says she felt. She felt that and then later she demands that he will never speak of the escort event again. She found her power and she is using it to tell him what she will accept in the future.


That picture is a very small part of their interchange that evening. Taken all together it can add up as I suggest if you can grant that she is not simply a mindless bimbo. For instance it is possible to imagine that when she says he owns her, she is offering him something in exchange for the demands she makes. I suspect she would also like him to get busy so she can have her climax. This is actually an unfair time to try to discuss something like that, so shut up and get busy.

You are only correct... None of us is correct. We are all guessing.

As for my opinions:
If she had jumped the mechanic's bones, I would agree with you guys, that would make her a whore, bitch, slut.
If she had returned from being raped and thanked him for the good fuck, and then said, lets go to bed so you can finish me off, I would say you guys are right, Boss is in complete control of her mind. She will believe anything, do anything.
I saw the full evening, and you give no evidence to support your assertions. She has clearly been manipulated for both chapters one and two, you simply won't admit it because you don't want to believe it is true. That is why you continue to deny the evidence. You write about her demanding Christian never speak of the escorting again, but saying that is irrelevant because it is clear Vivian's demands mean nothing to Christian. He walks all over her any time he wants to, even though you deny it. She was supposed to have an evening with Hutch, and Christian had her being assaulted by his business partner instead. She hasn't found any power, but you say that because you believe it, not because there is any evidence in the story. You keep grasping at straws. Nothing in that evening went as Vivian planned it, but everything went as Christian planned it. Christian doesn't care what demands Vivian makes, he knows he is going to have his way with her, as he has EVERY time he has tried.

As far as none of us being correct, that is false. You are not correct, but I am correct about Christian manipulating Vivian up to this point. That is not a guess on my part. It is OBVIOUS. It was not only clear in her interactions with Christian, it was made clear in her interactions with Rain and Sunshine. She admitted then the power Christian had over her. You will of course make excuses for this. The only guessing is about the future, which I already said is up to the author.
 

Shar4263

Newbie
Sep 18, 2020
75
198
198
Why is Exhibition Tag not added?? Viv clearly doesn't mind showing her Assets. And each dress by Boss is getting hotter.
 
4.50 star(s) 193 Votes