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A Key part may be when the Dev reveal's what happened in the bedroom.... I thought he mentioned that would happen
I feel the bedroom scene was Christian trying to convince her to fuck she declined cause hutch was there and Christian told her it didn't stop you outside why should this be any different. she just gave in.
 

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Some claim the "do it don't do it" part to be a test, but that's obviously not the case here.
Vivian tried to escape from the currrent situation by suggesting to move out of town and to make a fresh start.
This is a fact.
Now why would Hutch want her to work with Christian again and let her help with the little project, when Vivian already confessed and passed the testing if Hutch would have ever tested her?!

Hutch has only one job at work that is to keep account of the little project.
This is a fact
So why would he stay longer in the office after the bathroom scene, when the little project didn't even start yet?!
There might be more to that.
With the little project being his only task at work he can't afford to lose that.
This is the reason why he needs Vivian to work on the project!

Christian got called or texted by Vivian as we could clearly hear him saying to Hutch in the office "Tell your wife you're on your way home".
Waiting outside of the office for Hutch who took his time to finish whatever he was doing there,
Christian's only intention was to mindplay Hutch further on the parking lot to keep him on track.
(A man sacrifices himself...puts his family above himself...someone who will make the hard choices...Sacrifice. That's what love is really about...Go home, show your wife how much you love her...)
This is the reason why Hutch allows Vivian to work with Christian!

Hutch lied 2x times to Vivian during their talking code!
He didn't mentioned to Vivian that he would also getting something out of it when she helps Christian on the little project.
(Keeping his job with the same salary as before)
He also lied by denying that he and Christian had a talk after the bathroom scene.
you are getting confusing the sequence of events of the flow of event...
1. regarding the "do it don't do it" he get angry and says let me be the man of the house for once.... then he uses that statement. keeping the flawed logic of vivian aside, hutch kept testing her since the start... if you dont think asking all those specific questions and vivian lying about them all especially the part where he tells vivian he didn't sleep that night and even then she lies... after so many lies how can hutch believe her. so i dont think that... but you interpretation seems confused to me.... as you arent looking at the whole update and how its respective scene connect with each other.
2. we only know what christian tells in the story about hutch's job.. now a fact we all know christian is compulsive liar and uses the lies and manipulations to get what he wants. so how can anyone assume that only 2 specific accounts are lost and not the rest. if it is even hutch's fault.
3. the talk between hutch and christian is clear manipulation as this was a consequence of vivian and christian talking in the carpark and then when he went back to the office he was behind hutch when vivian was messaging hutch(not christian which you are saying). so again i say you interpretation is confused/confusing.
4. how can it be a lie when vivian was the one talking about hutch keeping his job with christian in the bathroom. and there is no talk about the job between hutch and christian. hutch lied about talking to christian but not about the job. and in retrospect after all days of lying and acts of cheating 1 lie is like single water drop in the ocean.
Before the clapping Hutch was leaning against the door and he heard them unclearly talking for a while before he head back to the couch.
again you are confusing the sequence of event.... just play the game a few more time and you won't be confused as to which came first(the chicken or the egg)

I respect your opinion, and I can see what your interpretation is attempting to say, but I don't agree.
gattsu is confusing the sequence of event so his interpretations is getting warped cos of that... that how is see it from his post. and nice post way more clear than my lost in translation thoughts. (y)

I feel the bedroom scene was Christian trying to convince her to fuck she declined cause hutch was there and Christian told her it didn't stop you outside why should this be any different. she just gave in.
there is conversation between vivian and christian about the bedroom scene... don't remember which day its from... vivian say you didn't have to go caveman. dunno what that meant.... just my thoughts regarding the bedroom noises(which sounded like talking ...initially) the convo about vivian bunking with christian also can be seen as vivian's fault even from the gameplay perspective.
 
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again you are confusing the sequence of event.... just play the game a few more time and you won't be confused as to which came first(the chicken or the egg)
Are you nuts?
He sat on the couch when the bedroom lights went off. He walked to the bedroom door, tried to open the door which was locked.
Still in front of the door he listened to some talk noises. After some time he went back to the couch and minutes later the banging began!

day02 line 3221 door is locked he hears talking noises
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day02 line 3257 the clapping began
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think we should deescalate before this goes any further... lets just leave it at agree to disagree and move on with our different opinions.
 
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Before the clapping Hutch was leaning against the door and he heard them unclearly talking for a while before he head back to the couch.
This would be the interesting part to reveal!
Are you nuts?
He tried to open the door to the bedroom which was locked.
Then he sat in front of the door and listened to some talk noises. After some time he went back to the couch and minutes later the banging began!
check again... but i dont think ill continue this debate anymore.
 

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JoeBlogs!
Tiszteletben tartom a véleményét, és látom, hogy az értelmezése mit akar mondani, de nem értek egyet.
Vivian szökési kísérlete csak egy sekélyes kísérlet a bűntudat kezelésére.

I don't agree with you on that. Vivien really wanted to go and move out, but the husband is such an idiot that he allows himself to be influenced. Chris won't let them move out as he has a plan for the married couple. That's why she tells her husband all kinds of things to manipulate him. Even at the end of the dinner, he made sure that they stay, if they didn't, he would have fired the husband the next morning. And Vivien knew this too, that's why she sacrificed herself. And moving away would have been redemption for Vivien. No matter what anyone says, Vivien loves her husband very much, but falling into her own trap will be difficult for her to climb out of. Between Christian and Vivien, a maximum of only physical contact can develop, only sex. The scene in the parking lot wasn't about the emotions, whether Vivien likes her or not, but only about the physical relationship, Christian can manipulate that too. Many couples have been ruined, but our couple will be filled by Christian. Dev wrote:
It is an NTR story that focuses on a long-term married couple who suddenly fell into a love triangle. It's a darker, emotional kind of story. It's also a KN, so there are no more paths and nothing to "avoid".
 

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check again... but i dont think ill continue this debate anymore.
I checked and I must say that you are completly out of content here.

Christian and Vivian went into the bedroom. Christian locked the door.
Hutch was sitting on the couch.
The lights in the bedroom went off. Hutch walked to the bedroom door.
You hear talking noises while Hutch tries to open the bedroom door.
Hutch standing with his back at the door. Still talking noises to hear.
Hutch walks to another door and sees the guest room.
Hutch walks back to the couch.
Around 22:20 o'clock Hutch lies on the couch and sees moving shadows.
He stands up from the couch, is walking to the bedroom door and hears moaning sounds.

You and Joe should really focus on the content and not just admire those beautiful renders!
 

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Please stay calm. i like all your comments, but i don't want it to end like yesterday in the oval office. Besides, my popcorn is empty.
i think the imagination is playing with all of us and some of us gets closer to what the story going to be but at the and just at the we can be sure with the next update. So peaople d not desperate and read other storys . I have found other storys in internet about similar scenerios with differents end path. The more i read the light i feel cause i expect now anything from the story . I wait to get to know which storyline the dev choose which is going to lead to that ending that he promise to be amazing.
 

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I checked and I must say that you are completly out of content here.

Christian and Vivian went into the bedroom. Christian locked the door.
Hutch was sitting on the couch.
The lights in the bedroom went off. Hutch walked to the bedroom door.
You hear talking noises while Hutch tries to open the bedroom door.
Hutch standing with his back at the door. Still talking noises to hear.
Hutch walks to another door and sees the guest room.
Hutch walks back to the couch.
Around 22:20 o'clock Hutch lies on the couch and sees moving shadows.
He stands up from the couch, is walking to the bedroom door and hears moaning sounds.

You and Joe should really focus on the content and not just admire those beautiful renders!
i dunno if you have actually played or not but i'll just stop here.. if you have read your own post that i have quoted you wouldnt have reinforced you statement.
 

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1. regarding the "do it don't do it" he get angry and says let me be the man of the house for once....
Wrong.
Hutch gets angry and says "let me be the man of the house for once" as Vivian said to him that she doesn't care what Christian wants, what about what she wants!
"Do it don't do it" appears at the bedroom after she wanted to know if he talked to Christian after the bathroom meeting.

then he uses that statement. keeping the flawed logic of vivian aside, hutch kept testing her since the start... if you dont think asking all those specific questions and vivian lying about them all especially the part where he tells vivian he didn't sleep that night and even then she lies... after so many lies how can hutch believe her. so i dont think that... but you interpretation seems confused to me.... as you arent looking at the whole update and how its respective scene connect with each other.
She senses that Hutch might know something. As long Hutch is not coming straight why should she admit. Makes no sense and this way DEV keeps the atmosphere at high level.

2. we only know what christian tells in the story about hutch's job.. now a fact we all know christian is compulsive liar and uses the lies and manipulations to get what he wants. so how can anyone assume that only 2 specific accounts are lost and not the rest. if it is even hutch's fault.
Hutch's new job is keeping account of the little project.
I said nothing about those 2 clients that left. I leave those assumptions to you guys. I'm just wondering why you miss so much content.

3. the talk between hutch and christian is clear manipulation as this was a consequence of vivian and christian talking in the carpark and then when he went back to the office he was behind hutch when vivian was messaging hutch(not christian which you are saying). so again i say you interpretation is confused/confusing.
Yeah he was behind Hutch and was also mindplaying him. That was at midday because he said he would call Addison to bring Hutch some meal!
After that Christian went back to his office and at the end of the shift when Christian switched off the lights to his office he said to Hutch that he should tell Vivian that he's on his way home!
We can assume because Hutch didn't answer any texts that Vivian might reached out to Christian!
Keep focus on the timeframe, bud!

4. how can it be a lie when vivian was the one talking about hutch keeping his job with christian in the bathroom. and there is no talk about the job between hutch and christian. hutch lied about talking to christian but not about the job. and in retrospect after all days of lying and acts of cheating 1 lie is like single water drop in the ocean.
Day 03 s03...read the damn dialoges!
 
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i dunno if you have actually played or not but i'll just stop here.. if you have read your own post that i have quoted you wouldnt have reinforced you statement.
LOL, so you're really ignoring the fact that before it came to the clapping in the bedroom there was actually some talking in the bedroom that all of us besides you have noticed.
Turn on your speakers...or plan to visit a doctor!
 
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I appreciate healthy discussion and the exchange of idea and options.
As such my personal belief on her actions place her surely into the streets. Any spouse who would actively and repeatedly betray their other half, and then continuously lie about it! Come on, who would want to live with that (unless that's your kink).

So after 22 years of being a wife, she is a failure. Come on Hutch you know what to do, and where to send her :)
I think there was some misunderstanding with this bit. When someone (Hatty, I think?) said she was for the streets, I interpreted that as "she's going to essentially become a prostitute" - or not that far, perhaps, but basically meaning she was going to start sleeping with everyone. From your comment here, I now take it as meaning Hutch should/would throw her out.

I agree with that personally, but I think Hutch would not do it (or at least not yet). After 22 years of marriage, and who knows how many years before that, it's not as easy to just let go, and Hutch is already showing the signs of that.
check again... but i dont think ill continue this debate anymore.
He's right though, Hutch listens at the door after checking and finding it was locked, and he hears them talking. Then, a little while later, the sex noises (and silhouettes) start up.
 

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I have just read through the description again. There is one point that has not yet been touched on.
Jealousy. Who or what will she be jealous of? Addison? Of the uninhibited sex that she can only have at Christian's request?
Do we know 100% that christian is single? In the house at the first meeting he says that he is missing someone else in the house, but we know that he likes to lie? On all the material luxuries?
 
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I checked and I must say that you are completly out of content here.

Christian and Vivian went into the bedroom. Christian locked the door.
Hutch was sitting on the couch.
The lights in the bedroom went off. Hutch walked to the bedroom door.
You hear talking noises while Hutch tries to open the bedroom door.
Hutch standing with his back at the door. Still talking noises to hear.
Hutch walks to another door and sees the guest room.
Hutch walks back to the couch.
Around 22:20 o'clock Hutch lies on the couch and sees moving shadows.
He stands up from the couch, is walking to the bedroom door and hears moaning sounds.

You and Joe should really focus on the content and not just admire those beautiful renders!
I'm curious what was the original debate here cause I'm lost lol
 

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I'm curious what was the original debate here cause I'm lost lol
Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc. :LOL:
 
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Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc. :LOL:
Well that escalated rather quickly lol
 

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Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc. :LOL:
Well it started by Hatty saying
after "substantial project" vivian undertook in the backyard do we really need a explanation as to what went on in the bedroom (hint:lot clapping) we just didn't see it doesnt mean the noises and the shadow play were fake... at least that how hutch felt from his reactions.
Trying to enlighten him that there were talking noises before the clapping Hatty like Joe accused me of playing the wrong game or better to play the game again.

DEV said it's beside the backyard the base of his story!
 
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