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When it comes to the backyard scene, I believe Vivian took the initiative, Christian was a bit handsy, and she knew he wanted it, so knowing she had limited time she offered it up, to speed up the process, and from the looks of it she didn't overly enjoy it.
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and because he knew she was that willing he came up with the plan have her bunk with him....

I don't know if she wanted to, I think she thought she could flirt her way through the night, knowing he wanted it, but after what Christian said to Hutch in the living room she got desperate....
 
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When it comes to the backyard scene, I believe Vivian took the initiative, Christian was a bit handsy, and she knew he wanted it, so knowing she had limited time she offered it up, to speed up the process, and from the looks of it she didn't overly enjoy it.
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and because he knew she was that willing he came up with the plan have her bunk with him....
Yeah it got a lil bit stretchy for her during the fisrt minutes...
Christian could have mentioned after their engagement that he's curious to know and see what Hutch has worked out for his company and as we witnessed how Vivian was looking at Hutch's list it was written in stone that she might have to do it again...
 
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biggsexxxy

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Yeah it got a lil bit strechy for her during the fisrt minutes...
Christian could have mentioned after their engagement that he's curious to know and see what Hutch has worked out for his company and as we witnessed how Vivian was looking at Hutch's list it was written in stone that she might have to do it again...

I agree, 100%

This conversation is why I feel she initiated it.
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When this all began Hutch should have just got in his car and left. We as the viewer would have got to see if the sex continues or does she go after him.
 
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When this all began Hutch should have just got in his car and left. We as the viewer would have got to see if the sex continues or does she go after him.
I think she would have left, I don't believe she intended on letting Christian ram her on the deck, but the deal was done and she thought she saved Hutch's job.
If Hutch would have left, she would have known he seen them, and went after him, I don't think she was "that" under Christian's spell yet, not until he gave her pleasure later that night did she become "confused"...
 
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All I know is, I really need to see the entire scene of what happened in the bedroom where they fuck all night. I'm more interested in that, than their first fuck outside. I hope that we get to see it sooner rather than later.
 
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If Hutch keeps his job, then he wouldn't need Christian to pay for tuition. I think the moment of Sawyer needing tuition money was to add an extra layer of desperation.
but because of all the commotion at Hutch's work, it was Vivian who told her son that she would give him a check in a day or two. maybe the sequence of events will show how Sawyer gets a notice from the principal for not paying his tuition, he has to move out of the dorm immediately. Vivian gets another call from her son, and since Christian is next to her, he can declare that he will help her and go with her to solve this problem. maybe the creator of the story would show the scene of Vivian and Christian in the dorm, similar to the one in Christian's house.:devilish:
 

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I think she would have left, I don't believe she intended on letting Christian ram her on the deck, but the deal was done and she thought she saved Hutch's job.
If Hutch would have left, she would have known he seen them, and went after him, I don't think she was "that" under Christian's spell yet, not until he gave her pleasure later that night did she become "confused"...
Then when she came in and saw Hutch's notepad was empty... oh to have been able to see what was going on in her head then!
but because of all the commotion at Hutch's work, it was Vivian who told her son that she would give him a check in a day or two. maybe the sequence of events will show how Sawyer gets a notice from the principal for not paying his tuition, he has to move out of the dorm immediately. Vivian gets another call from her son, and since Christian is next to her, he can declare that he will help her and go with her to solve this problem. maybe the creator of the story would show the scene of Vivian and Christian in the dorm, similar to the one in Christian's house.:devilish:
Well, she gave Sawyer a check when she went to visit him. The game is set to cover a few days per update, at the current pace at least, so unless there's a bit of a time skip, the only way there should be any issues there is if the cheque (because I'm a Brit) bounces. There should be no reason for it to bounce, the money issues should have been stopped by Vivian's actions, and even if not, it wouldn't result in a sudden drain in their bank account.
 

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I agree, 100%

This conversation is why I feel she initiated it.
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That wording where she says "I" and then "We" doesn't really support your point of view. It could just be her thinking "she went though with that entire night, when him all over her..." And, that was her payment for keeping his job.

It really doesn't mean she initiated it. She might have, but I'm picking she didn't. They came to an arrangement. And she accepted, and they fucked. And, Christian just pushed her into the bedroom stuff because she had accepted the proposition before that. I think the whole night was: you'll be my whore for tongiht, and I'll keep Hutch employed. But, you have to go along with everying, for the rest of the night. And, she agreed.
 

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I think she would have left, I don't believe she intended on letting Christian ram her on the deck, but the deal was done and she thought she saved Hutch's job.
If Hutch would have left, she would have known he seen them, and went after him, I don't think she was "that" under Christian's spell yet, not until he gave her pleasure later that night did she become "confused"...
Think so too but Christian would have driven her there even if he didn't go in bet he would have kissed her.
 

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Thing I find interesting in the most popular NTRs the women all have the I can handle the situation right before all hell breaks loose.
 

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That wording where she says "I" and then "We" doesn't really support your point of view. It could just be her thinking "she went though with that entire night, when him all over her..." And, that was her payment for keeping his job.

It really doesn't mean she initiated it. She might have, but I'm picking she didn't. They came to an arrangement. And she accepted, and they fucked. And, Christian just pushed her into the bedroom stuff because she had accepted the proposition before that. I think the whole night was: you'll be my whore for tongiht, and I'll keep Hutch employed. But, you have to go along with everying, for the rest of the night. And, she agreed.
Hmmm that would not exactly fit with Christian's statement where he said he let her always the door open to make her own decision.
He always tested her before to give her the feeling she might be in control and has more than just one option available.
He never blackmails her directly.
Like in the bathroom scene where Vivian proposes that every debt against Hutch is paid when she accepts to have sex with him (while already stroking his penis).

They had sex in the backyard and imo initiated by Vivian. Then we have the task Christian ordered Hutch to do and he failed without Christian saying it but also with the fact that Vivian saw the empty blog from Hutch. Now Vivian knowing Hutch failed and Christian insisting not to leave his house drunken and reaching out his hand to Vivian to bunk with him, she says to Hutch that she's a big girl and he should let her worry about herself.

What happens there is unclear but they seem to have a conversation whose content leaves a lot of room for conjecture.
Christian might have joked about him sleeping naked and hopes she wouldn't feel uncomfortable but also have insisted that she does not go to sleep in this dress. Now with him being naked and Vivian without slip (backyard) and bra also, it's hard to believe Christian wouldn't miss the opportunity with having a hard on to ask Vivian if she would mind to help him out with his problem...again the door is open and a chance for her to make a proposal.
 
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That wording where she says "I" and then "We" doesn't really support your point of view. It could just be her thinking "she went though with that entire night, when him all over her..." And, that was her payment for keeping his job.

It really doesn't mean she initiated it. She might have, but I'm picking she didn't. They came to an arrangement. And she accepted, and they fucked. And, Christian just pushed her into the bedroom stuff because she had accepted the proposition before that. I think the whole night was: you'll be my whore for tongiht, and I'll keep Hutch employed. But, you have to go along with everying, for the rest of the night. And, she agreed.
Bearing in mind this takes place between the backyard games and the slumber party, it's referring to just the backyard stuff. She says "everything I went through", meaning "I took his cock for this", (and following later conversation, could specifically refer to "I sucked his cock after it was in my pussy") but changed to "we" in order to deflect from that and not give it away to Hutch. The sleepover comes after, and she has no choice by then because Hutch didn't complete his part of the bargain, so she's the only one of the two trying to save him/his job.
 
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Hmmm that would not exactly fit with Christian's statement where he said he let her always the door open to make her own decision.
He always tested her before to give her the feeling she might be in control and has more than just one option available.
He never blackmails her directly.
Like in the bathroom scene where Vivian proposes that every debt against Hutch is paid when she accepts to have sex with him (while already stroking his penis).

They had sex in the backyard and imo initiated by Vivian. Then we have the task Christian ordered Hutch to do and he failed without Christian saying it but also with the fact that Vivian saw the empty blog from Hutch. Now Vivian knowing Hutch failed and Christian insisting not to leave his house drunken and reaching out his hand to Vivian to bunk with him, she says to Hutch that she's a big girl and he should let her worry about herself.

What happens there is unclear but they seem to have a conversation whose content leaves a lot of room for conjecture.
Christian might have joked about him sleeping naked and hopes she wouldn't feel uncomfortable but also have insisted that she does not go to sleep in this dress. Now with him being naked and Vivian without slip (backyard) and bra also, it's hard to believe Christian wouldn't miss the opportunity with having a hard on to ask Vivian if she would mind to help him out with his problem...again the door is open.
Umm, nice fiction there. But, I really don't see it happening that way. At the first blush, there would have been a negotiation: you spread your legs right here and now, or tomorrow Hutch is leaving the company. And from that, she would have had that threat carry on to where she was faced to stay the night. And, you could see it by her facical expressions that she wasn't comfortable with it. It was all his idea to force her into it, and because of the threat still hanging over them (as a couple), she went through with other things.

But, in her own mind, after that full night of sex, she thinks she's done enough so that at least the job is secure. That's her hope. And, I don't think there would be that much negociation in the bedroom. Christian would have just told her what he wanted, and she submitted. I see it that way. And, I'm not sure why there's such an opposing point of view when I'm sure it happened like the way I picture.

But, before I go, I don't remember that line of Christian saying he left the door open. I've only played the game once, and I could have missed that. I'll have to play it again at some point.
 
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