VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [v0.2] [SC Stories]

[Hattyrulz]

Aren't the best scenes those (like in this game) where one asks how can she do this?

I often feel I have to extract this aspect from the grinding and latent conflicts

my way of resolving this conundrum is simply to take real life examples in such complex situations where the story is almost believable. and in doing so sometimes the liberties taken by the dev clash with the logic of real-life and the ensuing debates of possibilities only limited by one's imagination(and that we have in abundance here)

I sometimes wish the female members of the forum (because you mention the ratio here) would grant us more explanations and insights in how they explicitly differ from the male perspective.

a few pages back i posted a similar statement and all who answered were men(even if most of them had female pics in their profile pic >> like me). so i just follow that assumption in regards to that response.

i feel like 9 out of 10 men in this forum when they see there wife bent over the table outside would have done something, they would have left an packed there bags going to a hotel waiting for divorce, flipped out on boss an viv, beat up boss.. something.. so when hutchy just watched going thru mental anguish thats when the VN went to "fantasyland" .. not real , make believe, and at that rate now anything in this VN is really just wild imagination of the dev and hutchy getting destroyed for are entertainment an debate as to why , how , what .. i love this VN because it is the first VN to start at the scene of the crime.. all the others make you wait ten years to build up to it.. this VN is taking the backward approach which quite unique and refreshing .. i love it.

i'm surprised duke... no mention on hutchy cucky at all.., i would be agreeing with you on that about 9/10 men statement ... but after reading adhd classic's posts im not sure... if its related to the genx and millenial age group then would completely agree.... not so sure about the rest....like gen z,alpha and beta(just googled them don't quote me on this}. dunno if many remember the one and only choice you are given in this kn... the option to change names and the way its introduced that really annoyed me and then when i started reading the moment vivian googled and came up with a plan thats my view of when fantasyland started in this vn. it definitely has a different take. dunno if ill be blocked or banned for this but navigating the rift was another good vn/kn which i think is abandoned with its own unique aspect... there are more but most are either abandoned or removed from this site. i assume you are taking shot at awam with the 10 year remark. won't comment regarding the vn other than its good so far.... as i have said in a previous post some start out strong and just lose out as they progress. i just want this to be completed and then i would make a review. till then fingers crossed this kn will deliver the goods.

 

[TheDuke9999]

one more thing, what i notice not to many people talk about is how vivian comes out of bedroom wearing his clothes ,no bra , no panties lol, like hutchy wouldnt see that or notice but deny everything... then proceeds to keep his clothes hidden next to her the drawer and smells the shirt reminding her of the boss by smelling the boss's scent from that night and repeatedly looks at shirt in drawer through the VN .. clearly showing she is falling hard for the boss

 

[Dealbreaker]

a few pages back i posted a similar statement and all who answered were men(even if most of them had female pics in their profile pic >> like me). so i just follow that assumption in regards to that response.

Problem is, men a far more prepared to and interested in asking these questions, in thinking in the framework of gender differences. Women normally hate that, that's at least my well founded experience. They like to hink in terms of being "human" and being a "good human being". So male questions in this direction typically end in a conversation solely among men. That's what I meant with "having to extract" them from conflicts in this forum, they remain always implicit from the female side, seldom explicit.

 

[Dealbreaker]

smelling the boss's scent from that night

Their noses are something else.

 

[Luc77]

that's what came to my mind (guess what movie)

woman in black jacket:
In the fifth day, your ass goes to all

Vivian nods his head: "yes."

woman in black jacket:
Say it!

Vivan:
In the fifth day, my ass goes to all

 

[TheDuke9999]

Their noses are something else.

the nose knows lol

 

[TheDuke9999]

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that's what came to my mind

woman in black jacket:
In the fifth day, your ass goes to all

Vivian nods his head: "yes."

woman in black jacket:
Say it!

Vivan:
In the fifth day, my ass goes to all

and there is the slut friend that re-assures vivian she is doing the right thing and to keep banging the boss and its okay to love one man for that big D and also love the hubby for well nothing anymore lol..

 

[Hattyrulz]

how vivian comes out of bedroom wearing his clothes ,no bra , no panties lol, like hutchy wouldnt see that or notice but deny everything... then proceeds to keep his clothes hidden next to her the drawer and smells the shirt reminding her of the boss by smelling the boss's scent from that night and repeatedly looks at shirt in drawer through the VN

i think someone mentioned this (or i have it in one of points on porngame logic) vivian coming out of the bedroom and hutch not questioning in... think i posted this in the first week i think and regards to her weeping in the shower about her actions and to what she did after.... smelling the shirt and keeping it in the bedside drawer as a momento(which signals thats vivian is tempted to continue her fun with the boss). like i mentioned in my earlier quote to your statement... from the start that dev wanted to make it so that the readers dislike vivian. that's how i see it.

Their noses are something else.

true that. only a sniffer dog could beat them... just barely.

 

[Hattyrulz]

the nose knows lol

or in the words of linus caldwell the nose plays.

 

[Hattyrulz]

Problem is, men a far more prepared to and interested in asking these questions, in thinking in the framework of gender differences. Women normally hate that, that's at least my well founded experience. They like to hink in terms of being "human" and being a "good human being". So male questions in this direction typically end in a conversation solely among men. That's what I meant with "having to extract" them from conflicts in this forum, they remain always implicit from the female side, seldom explicit.

interesting thought.... in my experience it wasn't the case but i know it's different based on the individual.

 

[JoeBlogs]

the vivian becoming a complete slut here is my thoughts. the general premise for any ntr story... the end result is wife changes her love from her husband to the person corrupting her. in this case from hutch to chrisitan .... which starts as sex which leads to desire and then in the end becomes love.

I hope it does not go down the usual NTR tropes. So much I want this to be an original tale with new ideas, not not make the cheating so un-redeemable that nobody cares what she does any more (not even Hutch). Too much "out there" sex scenes could spoil the broth.

i feel like 9 out of 10 men in this forum when they see there wife bent over the table outside would have done something, they would have left an packed there bags going to a hotel waiting for divorce, flipped out on boss an viv, beat up boss..

My go to would probably have been: There are 3 people involved here... one of us is going to end up in a ICU, one in the morgue, the other other in prison. And I'm not a violet man in the slightest. The only question is who is ending up where, I'd be fine with any.

 

[TheDuke9999]

I hope it does not go down the usual NTR tropes. So much I want this to be an original tale with new ideas, not not make the cheating so un-redeemable that nobody cares what she does any more (not even Hutch). Too much "out there" sex scenes could spoil the broth.



My go to would probably have been: There are 3 people involved here... one of us is going to end up in a ICU, one in the morgue, the other other in prison. And I'm not a violet man in the slightest. The only question is who is ending up where, I'd be fine with any.

thats why i said anything after that is just the dev's wild imagination and great fictional story telling

 

[Hattyrulz]

And I'm not a violet man in the slightest. The only question is who is ending up where, I'd be fine with any.

my only question to this is are you protector and provider. if yes to even one then you be the person in prison. even the most timid man has a limit. and i have seen that in real life. so being fine with any is never a good option.

regard my quote.. i want a redemption arc for the couple but... I'm in the minority... too many bad theories from creative minds. and as usual can't stand against the tide for long eventually you will follow it.
ps: not saying i'll give up on the redemption arc... it's all in dev's conclusion to this story.

 

[TheDuke9999]

my only question to this is are you protector and provider. if yes to even one then you be the person in prison. even the most timid man has a limit. and i have seen that in real life. so being fine with any is never a good option.

regard my quote.. i want a redemption arc for the couple but... I'm in the minority... too many bad theories from creative minds. and as usual can't stand against the tide for long eventually you will follow it.

honestly the only way to have a redemption arc to the story where they stay together is for hutchy to become a full blown cuck that enjoys watching his wife get banged.. whether hutch is depressed, weak, strong, smart he is only going to stay for so long before he leaves and divorces unless they become swingers or he is a cuck..

 

[psychedevil]

I hope it does not go down the usual NTR tropes. So much I want this to be an original tale with new ideas, not not make the cheating so un-redeemable that nobody cares what she does any more (not even Hutch). Too much "out there" sex scenes could spoil the broth.

I am hoping for much the same as you. I feel that corrupting Vivian to the point of her not having any inner struggle about it, to where her focus becomes entirely hedonistic and her legs will open for just about anyone, would cheapen the foundation of the story as it currently stands.

 

[JoeBlogs]

So much more can be said about the inner workings of these characters. I find it fascinating and captivating for some unknown strange reason. I replayed it and this conundrum came to mind...



Lots have been written about what Vivian wants. I think Christian knows exactly what he is doing.

And he gives her what she is craving. And what she wants is what Christian wants. This scene still haunts me, and I don't know how to exorcise these demons.


At this stage Vivian does not think Hutch knows anything, and is actively conspiring with her lover/boyfriend against Hutch. And with that kiss, again giving Christian whatever he wants, regardless if it's of a sexual nature or not.

This make viewing the following at home scene in a different light. At this stage Vivian knows that Hutch knows everything.
Her guilt and self-preservation kicks in.

It's time to activate damage control mode!


"Uh Uh! No you didn't you! Girl! You told him you will convince Hutch to let you do your thang!"
Everything she is saying to Hutch now in order to save her ass is totally contradictory to how the bathroom scene ended.
Perhaps she has un-diagnosed bi-polar disorder.


Hutch summarizes it in a nutshell. Her words say one thing, but her actions betray her. Here he is admitting he know that she does not want Hutch, but rather Christian.

And for her biggest lie...


Vivian could have stepped up as a real devoted wife at any stage, but didn't. Her carnal lust is a more powerful influence than her devoted love.

Now hurry up with part 0.4 so we can find out more !!!!


(edit: sorry got some images in wrong order)

 

[TheDuke9999]

So much more can be said about the inner workings of these characters. I find it fascinating and captivating for some unknown strange reason. I replayed it and this conundrum came to mind...


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Lots have been written about what Vivian wants. I think Christian knows exactly what he is doing.
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And he gives her what she is craving. And what she wants is what Christian wants. This scene still haunts me, and I don't know how to exorcise these demons.

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At this stage Vivian does not think Hutch knows anything, and is actively conspiring with her lover/boyfriend against Hutch. And with that kiss, again giving Christian whatever he wants, regardless if it's of a sexual nature or not.

This make viewing the following at home scene in a different light. At this stage Vivian knows that Hutch knows everything.
Her guilt and self-reservation kicks in.

It's time to activate damage control mode!

View attachment 4610127 View attachment 4610128 View attachment 4610129
"Uh Uh! No you didn't you! Girl! You told him you will convince Hutch to let you do your thang!"
Everything she is saying to Hutch now in order to save her ass is totally contradictory to how the bathroom scene ended.
Perhaps she ihas un-diagnosed bi-polar disorder.

View attachment 4610131 View attachment 4610149 View attachment 4610169
Hutch summarizes it in a nutshell. Her words say one thing, but her actions betray her. Here he is admitting he know that she does not want Hutch, but rather Christian.

And for her biggest lie...
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Vivian could have stepped up as a real devoted wife at any stage, but didn't. Her carnal lust is a more powerful influence than her devoted love.

Now hurry up with part 0.4 so we can find out more !!!!


(edit: sorry got some images in wrong order)

at this stage she treats hutchy like a child not a husband. like a child she is protecting not loving. she is simply feels bad for being inlove with another man an doesnt want to hurt hutchy but secretly gets of on it.. wonder if the nose goes to work when they go to bed lol .. hutch knows in his heart he lost his wife. question is why is he sticking around? he clearly gave her a choice a final one :do it or dont its up to you" what did she choose? thats right she wants to be the hooker we all love her for. and she will "work" so hard to get all hutchy's clients back and then some.. wonder when she will get the queen of spades tattoo lol i cant wait for the boss to fall in love with her an walk in on her getting gangbanged by two black guys .. now that will be something to see lol the boss getting cucked also

 

[Hattyrulz]

At this stage Vivian does not think Hutch knows anything, and is actively conspiring with her lover/boyfriend against Hutch. And with that kiss, again giving Christian whatever he wants, regardless if it's of a sexual nature or not.

joe did you read luc's post and my thoughts on it... that aside... in the final conversation between hutch and vivian... he repeats what vivian kept telling hutch "i'm a big girl i can take care of myself" and then has a bangfest and then again going to the office for more. which hutch saw. that damage control kicked it when she saw hutch coming out of the bathroom she immediately went to her lover. this just validates luc's post about vivian transitioning from sex to desire to love. at this moment she is clearly in the desire state. from the sneak peak of vivian and chrisitan holding hands that's vivian in the love stage of the relationship... as much as i hate to admit it... there is no redemption for vivian if this proves to be true in update 3(damn you duke and luc with your oh so convincing theories). and to add more context...vivian is warned by hutch since the start and she still keeps doing that same which if the reader remembers those dialogue...this in turn makes the reader hate her more.the more you hate her the more you are convinced she will end up as some have predicted.

at this stage she treats hutchy like a child not a husband. like a child she is protecting not loving. she is simply feels bad for being inlove with another man an doesnt want to hurt hutchy but secretly gets of on it.. wonder if the nose goes to work when they go to bed lol .. hutch knows in his heart he lost his wife. question is why is he sticking around? he clearly gave her a choice a final one :do it or dont its up to you" what did she choose? thats right she wants to be the hooker we all love her for. and she will "work" so hard to get all hutchy's clients back and then some.. wonder when she will get the queen of spades tattoo lol i cant wait for the boss to fall in love with her an walk in on her getting gangbanged by two black guys .. now that will be something to see lol the boss getting cucked also

the last statement about queen of spade... do anyone know its real meaning.... not the sex related one....dont google and answer... just say what it is if you know. another convincing theory there in the end duke it might be possible... that vivian has so far gone after christian's corruption and hutch leaving her... she might be split roasted bye the mechanic and marcel.... an extreme theory... dunno if the dev will do it or not doit... its in devs hands now . and fyi the qos tattoo is actually a mark of intelligence in the study of symbols. which vivian seems to be lacking from how she is depicted so far.

 

[DarkArchon]

So much more can be said about the inner workings of these characters. I find it fascinating and captivating for some unknown strange reason. I replayed it and this conundrum came to mind...


View attachment 4610093
Lots have been written about what Vivian wants. I think Christian knows exactly what he is doing.
View attachment 4610094 View attachment 4610096 View attachment 4610112 View attachment 4610119 View attachment 4610120
And he gives her what she is craving. And what she wants is what Christian wants. This scene still haunts me, and I don't know how to exorcise these demons.

View attachment 4610121 View attachment 4610122
At this stage Vivian does not think Hutch knows anything, and is actively conspiring with her lover/boyfriend against Hutch. And with that kiss, again giving Christian whatever he wants, regardless if it's of a sexual nature or not.

This make viewing the following at home scene in a different light. At this stage Vivian knows that Hutch knows everything.
Her guilt and self-preservation kicks in.

It's time to activate damage control mode!

View attachment 4610127 View attachment 4610128 View attachment 4610129
"Uh Uh! No you didn't you! Girl! You told him you will convince Hutch to let you do your thang!"
Everything she is saying to Hutch now in order to save her ass is totally contradictory to how the bathroom scene ended.
Perhaps she has un-diagnosed bi-polar disorder.

View attachment 4610131 View attachment 4610149 View attachment 4610169
Hutch summarizes it in a nutshell. Her words say one thing, but her actions betray her. Here he is admitting he know that she does not want Hutch, but rather Christian.

And for her biggest lie...
View attachment 4610142 View attachment 4610145 View attachment 4610147 View attachment 4610150

Vivian could have stepped up as a real devoted wife at any stage, but didn't. Her carnal lust is a more powerful influence than her devoted love.

Now hurry up with part 0.4 so we can find out more !!!!


(edit: sorry got some images in wrong order)

Your take on Christian and Vivian is very similar to mine. I think Christian knows exactly what he is doing. He spotted a couple of marks in Hutch and Vivian. Scumbags like him have a knack for spotting easy prey, but do sometimes get it wrong. Vivian is afraid to loose Hutch, but was fine cheating on him as long he did not know about it. The author has shown that she likes male attention. That is one of the points of her interactions with other male characters like her son's roommates, the basketball player, and the mechanic. She may never have cheated on Hutch prior to Christian, which is unknown at this point, but her behavior towards the other males hints that she was open to it. I am glad you brought up the details of her conversation with Christian in the bathroom. She was agreeing with her lover to deceive her husband. Then at home, she lies to her husband about the situation until she realizes he knows the truth. I think Vivian is falling for Christian, but it is not the other way around. To him, she is simply a plaything to be used and discarded. By discarded, I do not mean that he would not keep fucking her, but she will go to the back of the bus with his other conquests when a "new" Vivian shows up. I don't think she is smart enough to see that, or she is too blinded by her horniness and excitement to see it. If her story ends by her being one of Christian's back of the bus hoes I won't feel sorry for her.

 

[TheDuke9999]

i will say the devs writing is phenomenal.. really shows how what a person may say with words and how there actions truly contradict each other.. how she smells the boss's shirt then cries professing her love for hutch. it amazing how well he shows the inner turmoil she is going thru . she is like most hooker wives, she wants the loving husband at home and enjoy the exciting big D at night . she is already corrupted and gone now comes the pain.. it will be interesting gauge hutch now from here on out because wifey is clearly a hooker now , im just wondering what hutch's intentions are now, will he be the cuck or will he be the king? hmmmm