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Hattyrulz

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None of that points to her being a serial cheater, or even having once cheated in the past though.

As for the nymphomania stuff, it's just not consistent with what we've seen. A nymphomaniac has a high desire for sex, usually with multiple different partners. She wants it all the time, and she actively tries to get it. What we see here is someone who initially has the equivalent of a one-night stand - she meets Christian for the first time, he takes her home (sort of...) and they have sex, which regardless of how you see the evening playing out, she is reluctant about. That they have sex multiple times that night does not qualify her as a nymphomaniac (if anything, it would actually point to Christian being one, given his actions). They then meet up again and have sex once more (just once, this time) a few days later.

If Vivian was a nymphomaniac, she would have been jumping on Christian, instead of just reluctantly allowing it to happen. She'd have been the one instigating it. She (probably) wouldn't have been crying about it in the shower the next morning, she'd (probably) have been rubbing one out, or trying to get more. She would have at least flirted with the mechanic, if not actually tried to jump him, she maybe would have at least tried to invite Rupert in, especially knowing that her house was likely to have been empty at the time. The twins and Marcel you can't include at this point because of opportunity (being in school, and being around Sawyer), but if circumstances were different, a nymphomaniac would have likely jumped on them as well.

There's a big difference between a nymphomaniac and just someone who likes sex, or even has a high sex drive.

I try to see both sides of things, but I admit that I don't get this argument at all. The absence of any evidence (not even concrete evidence) of cheating is all we have, there's nothing on the other side of the coin that points to Vivian having done it in the past. The possibility that something could have happened doesn't mean anything. There's a possibility that Vivian was born Victor and had a sex change, or at least there's no concrete evidence that that wasn't the case...

Marcel is a student who appears to have a crush on Vivian, and she is being polite and smiling at him. I'm not even sure I'd go so far as to call it flirting, it's just being a nice person (hell, it's even possible that she is blind enough to it that she doesn't realise he has a crush on her). The mechanic is a bit like Christian (in her first meeting with him) in that he is being very forward and has a physical presence that he's pretty much putting into her personal space. I'd have to place it again, but I don't recall her being forward with him, she is a bit taken aback as far as I recall, and shocked at what she can see because she wouldn't expect to see someone poking out of his shorts in that scenario.

I personally think portraying Vivian as a cheater in the past would make the story less real, since then there wouldn't really be any of the corruption that is quite obvious here. There wouldn't be the internal conflict that drives several of the scenes, it would solely be about trying to hide it from Hutch. If you think that's all there is, that she's cheated before and this is just another notch on the bedpost for her to keep secret, then it's like you and I are playing two different games!

I still think Hutch made a mistake that he didn't realise, here. I don't think he intentionally opened up the marriage in the way most of us would take that comment. I think he specifically refers to Christian, and Christian alone (because why would he think that Vivian would suddenly need or want to go finding lots of strange cock elsewhere?).

Although I still think there's a good chance that Christian will be the only partner for Vivian during the game, in a scenario where she does have sex with others (be it the mechanic, any of the students, or someone we've not yet met), I think she would do so with the understanding that Hutch allowed it by opening the marriage, but from Hutch's side it would be a betrayal because he didn't mean for her to have other partners, just Christian.
the difference between my quote and yours is that you are talking about the past.... im talking about how i think a cheater would behave during an affair. vivian is acting like a cheater in the update not pointing to the past which we may or maynot get to know about. this is my view not gonna change that.

the nymphomaniac stuff again you quote a dictionary definition but both the british dictionaries don't say anything about multiple partners, only just people with high sex drive. you are assuming which isn't fact, since the key word being "usually". the fact being, black talking about his relationship(not prying just referencing here) with one is how he is interpreting vivians actions, not from quoting a dictionary definitions which again doesn't say anything about having multiple partners... just high sex drive.

you are talking about the past but it's quite clear the the update which shows her sniffing her lovers shirt and keeping it. she is only acting like that in front of hutch like she is a faithful wife over the course of the update. like messaging the husband while she is having sex with her lover. or talking things out with her lover instead of the husband. these i think are typical signs of a cheater not that she was a cheater in the past but she is a cheater now. and shedding tears when she is caught. like most tictok videos ;)

don't remember who but it was already posted theory about the side characters being active partners of vivian in the future... might be duke. but the dev did say there will be a event with the mechanic or he will be involved in one the future. so maybe duke or the one who posted vivian will be of the streets might be true. since there is a interracial(future possiblity) tag in the script file which again is a 50-50.

i have agree that hutch did a mistake yes but the choice was not given to him as vivian says in the bathroom she will convince hutch to let her go out with christian after having sex. having heard that and being manipulated by the boss and hutch being a weak character(for now in the game) was out of options. he even said do it and dont do it (you didn't take that into consideration) that is hutch letting vivian do what she wants all throughout the update. the ball is in vivians court metaphorically and she chose to go ahead and do it it's like letting a cheater do whatever she wants. and vivian is happy that she gets best of both worlds.

i really don't want to hate vivian but there are so many flaws that i think are intentionally shown so that the reader dislikes vivian. vivian being the vital mc for the story based on her and hutch's mindset at the end of 3rd update that's when the most important plot point maybe depicted/explored by the dev. just an assumption and completely aligns with what you wrote in the last paragraph.
 
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the difference between my quote and yours is that you are talking about the past.... im talking about how i think a cheater would behave during an affair. vivian is acting like a cheater in the update not pointing to the past which we may or maynot get to know about. this is my view not gonna change that.

the nymphomaniac stuff again you quote a dictionary definition but both the british dictionaries don't say anything about multiple partners, only just people with high sex drive. you are assuming which isn't fact, since the key word being "usually". the fact being, black talking about his relationship(not prying just referencing here) with one is how he is interpreting vivians actions, not from quoting a dictionary definitions which again doesn't say anything about having multiple partners... just high sex drive.
Fair, but the previous comments were about Vivian being a cheater in the past, and so I took the wording in yours to also reference that. Apologies for getting that bit wrong.

And for definitions:
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Two out of the first three dictionary results specify "especially with multiple partners" or equivalent.
 

Hattyrulz

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Two out of the first three dictionary results specify "especially with multiple partners" or equivalent.
seems more like an addendum than a definition the multiple partners part of the it. the bold lettering is persistent and similar in all 3. the later part (the multiple partners) it seems more like giving an example or adding to the definition. i checked oxford and webseter.
 

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I still think Hutch made a mistake that he didn't realise, here. I don't think he intentionally opened up the marriage in the way most of us would take that comment. I think he specifically refers to Christian, and Christian alone (because why would he think that Vivian would suddenly need or want to go finding lots of strange cock elsewhere?).

Although I still think there's a good chance that Christian will be the only partner for Vivian during the game, in a scenario where she does have sex with others (be it the mechanic, any of the students, or someone we've not yet met), I think she would do so with the understanding that Hutch allowed it by opening the marriage, but from Hutch's side it would be a betrayal because he didn't mean for her to have other partners, just Christian.
Well for now we can only assume what Hutch's really intentions are or what else reason he got when he puts his relationship with Vivian to unconventional.
We have the conversation with Hutch and Christian in his office and at the parking lot and the comment from Hutch to Vivian during talking code that he thought a lot about it while being M.I.A. on Sunday that Hutch took into account for making this decision.
Hutch explicitly mentioned Christian when saying she is a big girl and she is able to let her worry about herself and after Vivian asked herself if he did really set their marriage to open, Hutch added that he gives her the space to do what she feels she needs to do and with this he gives her a complete freepass without wanting to know any details.
Hutch sensed already that Vivian needs more than he is able to provide and the best way for him to show her his love and not giving up on their marriage is giving her his approval.
He might even thought about Vivian unconsciously wanting more ways to explore her needs than just the one Christian showed her.
His thought by not giving her that space he will lose her to 100% and with that permission he might still have a chance of not losing her.
He explained his choice with a simple formula.
Christian gets what he wants, the company will profit, the coworkers (in what way?...we will see! xD) and Vivian will get something out of it...
His mistake as you said is that he doesn't mention at all or may be didn't even take into account what's in for him?
His marriage? His job? Or is it something else!?

Well this is how I interpreted their convo in this situation.
 
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MY CONCLUSIONS:
This game (novella) is a complete inadequate delusion from the very beginning to the very end, from cause to effect. A fake story from the fantasy category that has nothing to do with the realities of life.

Imagine... You take several puzzle sets and pour them into one pile. Then you take individual puzzles and forcefully fit them together to get a picture. That's how this game-novella was made.

I understood the author's idea, but its implementation is not.
Excuse me, Author, it was a good attempt, but it failed. (But I can't help but mark the only scene that really struck me - a man in the kitchen saw his wife having sex with the boss. You did a great job. I felt his shock. But the consequences of this scene are inadequate and everything went awry. Although there are quite interesting continuation options here).
It could be a great novella, but I'll have to work on it. Regarding the promised surprise at the end of the game, only one option will suit me - Doc Brown arrives in his time machine and returns everyone to the beginning of this story. Do it. I wish you success!
ALTHOUGH... Judging by the comments and feedback on the game, it seems that the majority of the audience liked the game. But this only confirms the rule that every product has its buyer.

P.S. Unfortunately, I can't publish this REVIEW in the appropriate section (I don't deserve it yet), but I hope the Author will read it. My rating is 2+1 (for trying to bring something new to this area) = 3. Thank you!
 
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Gattsu#Struggler

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MY CONCLUSIONS:
This game (novella) is a complete inadequate delusion from the very beginning to the very end, from cause to effect. A fake story from the fantasy category that has nothing to do with the realities of life.

Imagine... You take several puzzle sets and pour them into one pile. Then you take individual puzzles and forcefully fit them together to get a picture. That's how this game-novella was made.

I understood the author's idea, but its implementation is not.
Excuse me, Author, it was a good attempt, but it failed. (But I can't help but mark the only scene that really struck me - a man in the kitchen saw his wife having sex with the boss. You did a great job. I felt his shock. But the consequences of this scene are inadequate and everything went awry. Although there are quite interesting continuation options here).
It could be a great novella, but I'll have to work on it. Regarding the promised surprise at the end of the game, only one option will suit me - Doc Brown arrives in his time machine and returns everyone to the beginning of this story. Do it. I wish you success!
ALTHOUGH... Judging by the comments and feedback on the game, it seems that the majority of the audience liked the game. But this only confirms the rule that every product has its buyer.

P.S. Unfortunately, I can't publish this REVIEW in the appropriate section (I don't deserve it yet), but I hope the Author will read it. My rating is 2+1 (for trying to bring something new to this area) = 3. Thank you!
The only result that emerges from this for someone who said for not too long ago (yesterday) -
Respect to the author of this story - I again felt these painful feelings that, it would seem, had been forgotten long ago./
and given your review now is the fact that you're are a copmplete lost person seeking for attention.
Take care!
 

Black313X

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The only result that emerges from this for someone who said for not too long ago (yesterday) -

and given your review now is the fact that you're are a copmplete lost person seeking for attention.
Take care!
This does not negate what I said.
But:
1 - it concerns the scene I wrote about in the summary.
2 - it was a painful feeling of disgust.
And the author really has respect. For trying to bring something new to the genre of porn games.
And I have not been a lost person for a long time. I am a person with experience.
 

TheDuke9999

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the reason for me this VN is so riveting is most VN's you play they give one perspective. the dev has masterfully given all perspectives without dragging things out . great writing and flow . dev is able to put so much to interpret in the VN but leave so much hidden. this could be the NTR VN of all time honestly..
 

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the reason for me this VN is so riveting
Thought about this too. Apart from the shock impact, many have talked about early on, I would say the game combines
1. the deep fear (and experience, therefore the life experiences folks here project onto it in a more or less controlled manner...) of being cheated on and the humiliation lying in that experiences. I would say the imagination here played out in the game has actual nightmare qualities (the scenes at the beginning are structured like that, it's the ultimate torment chamber for cucked husbands).
2. but at the same time the game offers reasons and explanations for that cheating. It opens up a space of plausible (not really imo) deniability on the side of the wife about her real intentions and her acutal free will (and many discussions here are around exactly that, some are willing to give the wife the benefit of the doubt). So we can't just brush it off with clear moral dualities of right and wrong. The hurt we feel (for the MC) can''t transalte 1 to 1 into the righteous anger of the husband who simply suffers under a frivolous wife on a drunken evening or lusting for bigger cocks. So the hurt doesn't find an easy and instant relief in moral outrage (my outrage lies deeper, not on a moral, but on an existential level so to speak). It gets pent up.
3. Like every good story it creates a scenario in which there is no good "solution" or ending whatsoever. We are put into the position of the husband narratively in that we constantly ask ourselves what should he do no how should he react?. And there is no adequate reaction. The deed and the damage is irreversibly done. Like in real life. Nothing he can do. It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
 
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Thought about this too. Apart from the shock impact, many have talked about early on, I would say the game combines
1. the deep fear (and experience, therefore the life experiences folks here project onto it in a more or less controlled manner...) of being cheated on and the humiliation lying in that experiences. I would say the imagination here played out in the game has actual nightmare qualities (the scenes at the beginning a structured like that, it's the ultimate torment chamber for cucked husbands).
2. but at the same time the game offers reasons and explanations for that cheating. It opens up a space of plausible (not really imo) deniability on the side of the wife about her real intentions and her acutal free will (and many discussions here are around exactly that, some are willing to give the wife the benefit of the doubt). So we can't just brush it off with clear moral dualities of right and wrong. The hurt we feel (for the MC) can''t transalte 1 to 1 into the righteous anger of the husband who simply suffers under a frivolous wife on a drunken evening or lusting for bigger cocks. So the hurt doesn't find an easy and instant relief in moral outrage (my outrage lies deeper, not on a moral, but on an existential level so to speak). It gets pent up.
3. Like every good story it creates a scenario in which there is no good "solution" or ending whatsoever. We are put into the position of the husband narratively in that we constantly ask ourselves what should he do no how should he react?. And there is no adequate reaction. The deed and the damage is irreversibly done. Like in real life. Nothing he can do. It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
i couldnt have said it better.. dev really encompasses every emotion and outcome or possibility in the VN it is amazing from looks, to actions to words its like any ending could be a possible ending
 
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True, As of now where the plot could go many different ways. The Dev was brilliant in leaving the guesswork to OUR imagination on what was happening, Why , and what they may have been thinking .
 
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Hattyrulz

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It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
there are few dark theories on christian still not reaching his peak satisfaction with the couple. adhdclassic posted one such theory. i think it's the most darkest of dark ending(for me).
as always nice well phrased thoughts. (y)
i couldnt have said it better.. dev really encompasses every emotion and outcome or possibility in the VN it is amazing from looks, to actions to words its like any ending could be a possible ending
seems like you missed the devs post on why he decided on the 20% incremental updates. the dev said that they all had a natural stop point in the story(more like a cliffhanger i think) so that every ending is like small piece of the puzzle which is again a puzzle in itself. dunno how to phrase it in a simpler manner.
 
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