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psychedevil

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When speaking of men or women (or any group of people) even in relation to referencing psychological research, it would be best to use language such as "men tend to [do this]" or "women tend to [do that]" because there are individual differences among any group of people, and anything that can be said about population tendencies based on quantitative research will more or less apply to individuals in the population. It may apply well to many or most but will not apply as well to others.

Thus, in regard to anything that's been said about men or women here, there are plenty of individual men or women who are more like we might think one or the other group of individuals tends to be. For example, there are women who are more visual in relation to sex, and there are men who are more emotional in relation to sex, though the opposite pattern tends to apply more at the level of considering tendencies among each population of individuals.
 
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Early on after the release of MHB, I fell into the trap of wanting to appease everyone. I made some posts, engaged in some ways I shouldn't have, and nearly altered the course of the story (such as adding/removing scenes, or creating a new ending). Some of my words my have been misleading, confusing, or outright false. I've regained my senses, reminded myself this is for myself first, and you guys are invited spectators that are free to jump off the train if it's not going where you want to go.

Is there a main character and who is it? Vivian the center of the story for sure. Everything essentially revolves around her and creates the scenarios the others respond to. But I don't thinks she's really all that interesting, to be honest. Her motivates, while leading to sexy adventures, are not that complicated. To say that Hutch is more interesting (but maybe not the main character), might be a better way to describe him. Vivian gets her inner monologue as a short cut. Some things are to complicated to express in still renders or would require more extensive blocks of dialogue that would turn off the viewer. While I don't 'identify myself as the main male protagonist' in these games, as a guy I still empathize with them. I guess my goal is to have the viewer (nearly all men) to have some connection to him. I don't want to give him an inner monologue because I hope that the reader will do that for themselves. To deduce his mindset from his actions/reactions. Or to just let it be a mystery. I'm not educated in story telling. Maybe this is a flawed idea.


I think the reader can ask that for themselves as well. Ultimately this story becomes yours when you watch it. You decide who the story is about. Some may empathize with Hutch. Some just want Vivian to be the town bicycle.

Yes, I think some people will jump off the train as the story progresses and the character arcs become set. I wish I could release v0.4 and v0.6 together as I think they balance each other out (vivian vs. hutch). But I won't do that to you guys. I will warn the newer participants here that v0.4 is focused on Vivian and v0.6 is focused on Hutch. Wasn't planned that way, just is.

Yes, I think the ending will divide the remaining viewers. But I hope with each scene, from simple text exchange to raunchy sex, the viewer understands why it is happening based on the character's personality. A one paragraph discription of MHB might make someone beleive it's just another cookie cutter NTR story, but I believe with each release you will say to yourself "Damn! I didn't see that coming" but also see that it fits the story. And that includes the ending.

Yes, the last teaser is from v0.4.

No, the original backyard/bedroom scene will not be extensively shown. Again, early on I was trying to appease people but showing it was not part of the original plan. It is addressed in a couple way in the next two releases but it won't be a fully rendered, retelling from Vivian's or Chris' POV. It needed to happen to establish the rest of the story. It happened quickly in order to get to the rest of the story.

I'll do a progress update at the first of the month. Thanks.
Don't change your game to please anyone but yourself. The intrigue, anticipation, shock and awe caught us. If you start altering it to please people it won't be the vision you originally had and will rob the viewers that were waiting for YOUR vision.
 

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Another generality: Studies, especially quantitative studies in these areas are all more or less bullshit. You simply cannot rely on the validity of this kind of data and also it's ideologically completely contaminated.
Of course. But they serve to show a trend. That's why they're made.
Obviously, then you can believe whatever you want. But of course, between something you've taken out of your own pocket and something endorsed by an institution, I believe the institution unless I have other firsthand information.
And this is the best vaccine against conspiracy theories. Specifically, against the most delusional ones. Because, of course, yes, one can doubt what an institution says. But first, I'm going to doubt what a nobody says.

For example, I prefer to believe what this study says, which also explains its method, than what someone writes on a forum without providing any method or anything:
(A systematic review analyzing the factors that influence infidelity)
or this one:
(An article that summarizes previous research on infidelity and proposes new directions for studying the topic)

Do you have to believe that out of necessity? Well... no. But I'd rather believe that than something pulled out of my ass, frankly.
 
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Dealbreaker

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But I'd rather believe that than something pulled out of my ass, frankly.
Well, I didn't pull anything out of my ass, as I have made no statement on that topic. Others have talked about their personal first hand experiences before. I just argued in favour of general scepticism. Institutions have purposes, funding and biases. But good to see links to sources, so we can all have a look if we want to.

Edit: First look seems interesting. But just as an example for what I meant: the first study explicitely states as its goal to inform and guide marital counceling/couple's therapy. One can say that's good or bad, but this of course frames the problem from the start in a certain way.
 
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TheDuke9999 - close your eyes

The first article is interesting - but I have the impression that it is written with a strong thesis in mind. The second one I haven't even looked at, I'm afraid that nowadays all research from before the Tinder era is not very reliable. Infidelity has now become so easy.... Somewhere I saw a study (on young people = under 40 ;) ) in which they overwhelmingly indicate Tinder/other apps as a way of meeting new partners. Nowadays, the classic approach to a girl with an invitation for a coffee is starting to become strange and even perceived as pushy.
 
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TheDuke9999 - close your eyes

The first article is interesting - but I have the impression that it is written with a strong thesis in mind. The second one I haven't even looked at, I'm afraid that nowadays all research from before the Tinder era is not very reliable. Infidelity has now become so easy.... Somewhere I saw a study (on young people) in which they overwhelmingly indicate Tinder/other apps as a way of meeting new partners. Nowadays, the classic approach to a girl with an invitation for a coffee is starting to become strange and even perceived as pushy.
wow i actually understood all that and i will agree 100% with you on that seriously.
 
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