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How would you like the game to progress?

  • Keep going as Visual Novel with some choices and linear story

    Votes: 1,699 65.1%
  • Branch to sandbox with map, stats and RPG elements at certain point

    Votes: 910 34.9%

  • Total voters
    2,609
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Apr 18, 2022
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Let's test it then. Here two images from two different creators on Patreon. One does AI generated art, the other one makes his own digital art without AI. Guess which is which? I will then provide you answers and links with proof which is AI generated or not. Using image search will of course defeat the purpose of experiment. Make the decision just looking at the images. I trust your honesty here.
I will say the first one is AI and the second isn't. That was both my first intuition and my conclusion on further inspection. I don't mind AI art though, as long as it is consistent and doesn't change too much from picture to picture.

Edit: my guess was before the images were changed.
 

The Naughty Three

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I will say the first one is AI and the second isn't. That was both my first intuition and my conclusion on further inspection. I don't mind AI art though, as long as it is consistent and doesn't change too much from picture to picture.

Edit: my guess was before the images were changed.
Your guess was correct.
 
Apr 18, 2022
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Your guess was correct.
For the second guess I think
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Even if I am correct, neither style would bother me and I wouldn't normally look for details in such a way to determine whether it was AI or not. So as long as their isn't any glaring mistakes or inconsistencies I don't see a problem in using AI for the game.
 
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The Naughty Three

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I updated it and now the local files look as expected and the game starts up fine. Thanks for the quick response.

Is the next episode going to be a separate game on Steam?
It has to be unfortunately. But I will give the key of course
 

hysepReC

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F95 doesnt ask you to leave constructive critism, it asks you to leave a review. And i reviewed your game.
No you didn't. "No sex and AI art bad" is not a review. You left a 1 star rating purely because of AI art which isn't even in the game yet! Read the review rules here, you've managed to break at least three of them in your one and half line 'review'.

If you don't want to support or play games that contain AI art, that's your prerogative but giving a 1 star rating based on that is no different than doing it because it contains a kink that you don't like.
 

SolusSama

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Let's test it then. Here two images from two different creators on Patreon. One does AI generated art, the other one makes his own digital art without AI. Guess which is which? I will then provide you answers and links with proof which is AI generated or not. Using image search will of course defeat the purpose of experiment. Make the decision just looking at the images. I trust your honesty here.
You cannot be serious here. The second one has that classic generic AI artstyle that 90% of AI art has. Anyone that has attempted to use an AI Image gen service like novelAI can tell straight away.
It's one thing to say that AI art can be passable, but saying that you cannot tell it apart from decently drawn human made art is raw copium or pure insanity.
 

DarkLoki

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No you didn't. "No sex and AI art bad" is not a review. You left a 1 star rating purely because of AI art which isn't even in the game yet! Read the review rules here, you've managed to break at least three of them in your one and half line 'review'.

If you don't want to support or play games that contain AI art, that's your prerogative but giving a 1 star rating based on that is no different than doing it because it contains a kink that you don't like.
You can always report the review if you think it violates certain guidelines
 

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boobs_lover_69 your 1 star review of this game is very interesting, but begs a few questions. Here is what you wrote in it:



So what exactly is "losing you" mean? What support did I lose? What appreciation? What help? Did you give this game your theoretical 5-star review before, when it was 100% hand-drawn (currently still is) to support it? No. Did you perhaps support it financially? No.

Both of these actions would have improve financial situation of the game and I could afford to continue to pay for hand-drawn art, not go in the red and not be able to afford it anymore and trying to save the game with other cheaper means like AI art.

Tanking the game's rating with your 1 star review is your only contribution to what you call "incredible art-style of the game" and did nothing to support it or show your appreciation, when it mattered.

Money would help afford the hand-made art. Good reviews would rank the game higher on the forum and bring more views and as result supporters. Your 1 star review tanks the game further, no matter what art is chosen. It doesn't do anything good or constructive whatsoever. And it's also dishonest, since your actual perception of everything currently in the game is 5 stars. Where were these 5 stars when they were most needed?

// everyone else, sorry for the rant. some people just...
Hey, first of all, I'd just like to say that I'm sorry for that review. In my... very slight defense, I did think that I had reviewed this game at 5 stars previously, but I didn't check on that before posting that review, so I just kind of... said I gave it 5/5 before? That's a completely fair complaint though, and I am sorry. After I finish writing this, I'm going to edit my review to be more accurate to my actual opinions about this game, rather than my sort of "knee jerk" reaction to seeing your announcement of the intent to start using AI art.

But first, I'll just say that my reaction was completely unreasonable, I hadn't looked into any of the reasons behind your choice to move to AI art at all at the time I reviewed, and now that I have, I understand the perspective that "shitty AI art" is definitely better than "no art." I built up a narrative in my head that you were just some kind of tech bro who was thinking about how "totally sick it is that you can put out updates faster now" rather than realizing how truly disgustingly volatile of a business model it can be to run an entire business off of Patreon, and that this decision might have been made out of necessity rather than convenience. I thought that my review would be some kind of "noble protest review to the rising AI onslaught" or some self-righteous bullshit like that.

I'll close off by saying that the only reason my reaction was so immediately negative and critical is because I truly do love this game you've made so far. I loved the art style, and there is a good chance I would have supported your Patreon if I had the financial means to do so, and so when I saw that you were changing to AI art, a medium that I have only ever seen produce blatantly awful garbage porn games, I felt like I was... losing something? I guess? I am still disappointed that you've had to make the switch to AI art. I feel like the game will definitely be losing part of its charm and quality, but I also understand that there's really no way around that with the way things are. I'm sorry for the one star review, and I'm sorry for any people that my review might have driven away because they saw a 2.8 stars instead of what it might have been before. For what little it's worth, I think you knocked it out of the park with this update, and I really can't express how sorry I am for what I did.
 
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Hey, only just picked this up

Hey, first of all, I'd just like to say that I'm sorry for that review. In my... very slight defense, I did think that I had reviewed this game at 5 stars previously, but I didn't check on that before posting that review, so I just kind of... said I gave it 5/5 before? That's a completely fair complaint though, and I am sorry. After I finish writing this, I'm going to edit my review to be more accurate to my actual opinions about this game, rather than my sort of "knee jerk" reaction to seeing your announcement of the intent to start using AI art.

But first, I'll just say that my reaction was completely unreasonable, I hadn't looked into any of the reasons behind your choice to move to AI art at all at the time I reviewed, and now that I have, I understand the perspective that "shitty AI art" is definitely better than "no art." I built up a narrative in my head that you were just some kind of tech bro who was thinking about how "totally sick it is that you can put out updates faster now" rather than realizing how truly disgustingly volatile of a business model it can be to run an entire business off of Patreon, and that this decision might have been made out of necessity rather than convenience. I thought that my review would be some kind of "noble protest review to the rising AI onslaught" or some self-righteous bullshit like that.

I'll close off by saying that the only reason my reaction was so immediately negative and critical is because I truly do love this game you've made so far. I loved the art style, and there is a good chance I would have supported your Patreon if I had the financial means to do so, and so when I saw that you were changing to AI art, a medium that I have only ever seen produce blatantly awful garbage porn games, I felt like I was... losing something? I guess? I am still disappointed that you've had to make the switch to AI art. I feel like the game will definitely be losing part of its charm and quality, but I also understand that there's really no way around that with the way things are. I'm sorry for the one star review, and I'm sorry for any people that my review might have driven away because they saw a 2.8 stars instead of what it might have been before. For what little it's worth, I think you knocked it out of the park with this update, and I really can't express how sorry I am for what I did.

Thank you. Just thank you. Made my day.
 
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boobs_lover_69

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F95 doesnt ask you to leave constructive critism, it asks you to leave a review. And i reviewed your game.

Sorry your artist is slow, sorry you didn't like the original one you hired, sorry i have a predisposed opinion about AI art, but my opinion is what reviews are based on, and i still think your game is 1 star after two years of development. Bitching about it because you disagree isn't going to change my opinion.
Dude, get over yourself. Take it from me, you'll be a lot happier. We're all here to jack off, this ain't the fucking Louvre.
 

marvelfreak3000

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Gotcha.

" Is there preggo stuff in it? Asking for myself"

Currently only in dream sequence, closer to endgame however we'll get all girls pregnant.
Ah, yes the infamous "dream sequences" where is takes time away from making the actual scenes than to add it to the actual game without a dream and instead wait until endgame. IF plans were to be endgame then add it endgame dont tease us with it unless it is closer to endgame. :rolleyes:
 
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DarkLoki

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Not that I want it to happen, but how has Batreon not shut this down? Working on my own mod and wondering if going that route (with others) is even worth trying. Wouldn't want to build a following just to get closed down at some point.
 

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Not that I want it to happen, but how has Batreon not shut this down? Working on my own mod and wondering if going that route (with others) is even worth trying. Wouldn't want to build a following just to get closed down at some point.

They will ban me absolutely, it's just a question of timd, but since Ive cut expenses, I'll finish the game anyway, financial support or not
 
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