VN Ren'Py My Italian Slut Wife [v0.6] [HornyDogStudio]

[Caramel512]

I think it's also an NTS game. After all, it was Doug's idea for Raffaela to behave provocatively towards Bruce and the others. When she then takes things further on her own initiative, Doug discovers that he finds it exciting. They agree between themselves that only they know about it. And that it's okay with Doug for the others to think that Raffaela is cheating on him. And in the Blue Path, Doug can stop Raffaela if things go too far. Raffaela recounts what happens in detail. For example, in the shower scene in the Blue Path, she says that Bruce asks if she wants to join him. And then you can decide whether to go or not. If she goes, she recounts what happened in the shower.
On the red path, things are different. Raffaela doesn't tell you that Bruce is in the shower and she just leaves. While as a player you get the impression that they had sex in the shower, you only find out indirectly that this wasn't the case.

I think the real problem is that the scenes on the blue and red paths don't differ much from each other. It's only the text that differs between the passages. I would like to see more variation so that they are more clearly distinguished from each other. Because it's true that in some sections it makes no difference whether you choose the blue or red path. Only the narrative structure changes. Because even in the red path, Doug thinks what happens is hot. The Jacuzzi scene is a good example. It happens either way, with the only difference being at the end. Namely, on the blue path, she wants to tell what happened and go into detail. Whereas on the red path, she just lies down in bed exhausted and doesn't want to talk about anything.

But I think we have to be fair to the developer. Creating extra scenes is time-consuming. And we can't expect him to be making a game for us 24/7. That's why I personally think it's okay that the main differences between the blue and red paths are more in the text than in the scenes. Although, of course, there are other scenes on the blue path as well.

Doug never told her to act provocatively towards his friends. He asks her to dress more attractively; be atrophy wife. He never asked her to allow herself to be groped, playing it off as a prank, he never asked her to get fingered by Bruce and he never asked her to take her close off for Erick. She chose to do all of those things then she manipulated and gaslighted Doug into accepting them. Doug also didn't ask her to repeatedly scream Bruce's name while having sex with him. Doug never had any real power, so his approval was meaningless. The alternative to him approving is that she would cheat anyway. The blue path was tainted from the start, so NTS was never possible. Furthermore Doug never maintains his status as Raffa's primary love interest. This is confirmed when Raffa confesses her obsession of Bruce to Doug and tells him that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, but not with Doug. That is NTR.

 

[Caramel512]

You're misunderstanding something.
The magic pills, which are presumably ecstasy, only make Raffa even more aroused and make her want to pursue her goals with Doug more forcefully.
Either she turns him into a cuckold and pushes the boundaries Doug sets for her more and more, or she gets angry and disappointed when Doug doesn't want to go along with it and more or less secretly cheats on him with Bruce and the others.

And who knows if she wasn't already given magic pills while Doug was asleep.
The story is quite incomplete in parts, and we don't know everything that happened when Doug was asleep or not present, or what isn't mentioned in the chat.
That leaves room for speculation.
There's also the suspicion that Raffa was already cheating before the vacation, possibly with Doug's coworkers.
She was probably already a slut before the vacation anyway.
However, she pretended to be a shy and chaste wife to Doug until he asked her to dress sexily for his "friends."
Raffa saw this as an opportunity to act like the slut she is in front of her husband without fear of repercussions.
However, she hadn't counted on Bruce.
She fell in love with Bruce immediately, and Bruce must have noticed and is taking advantage of it.
Bruce manipulates Raffa to sleep with him and to humiliate Doug once again.
Raffa, in turn, manipulates Doug to get what she wants.

Everything you said in the bottom half (which I already believe is the case), confirms that Raffa was a cheating whore from the very beginning. You're confirming her guilt while trying to downplay it. What argument are you trying make?

 

[Caramel512]

That's not quite right.

Raffa isn't just jealous of Bruce and Stacy, but also of the fact that Doug and Stacy used to be a couple.
Even before choosing their route during their first visit to the bar, Raffa accuses Doug of declaring his love for Stacy.
Raffa is clearly jealous, which is probably why she'll never allow Doug to start anything with another woman, and certainly not with Stacy.
Raffa sees the sharing arrangement as Doug only having to share her with Bruce and the others, but Doug himself isn't allowed to have anyone else.
Things will get interesting on the Red Path in the future if Raffa ever finds out that Doug and Stacy are seeing each other.
She'll probably completely lose it if she finds out, or worse, if she catches them having sex...
I think we'll see Raffa in rage mode and/or she'll turn into a super slut and organize a gangbang that Doug can't miss, to get back at him for cheating.
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I literally told you what Raffa confesses to Doug at the club in the blue path and you ignored it.

That extra blue path honesty is a double edged sword.

Raefela confesses to Doug at the club that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, not with Doug. She even pushes her husband to spend more time with Stacy, to keep Stacy away from Bruce. Bruce is who she loves, not the husband.

 

[Caramel512]

I understand your reasoning and find it entirely possible. I just think that in the red pill route, Raffa should stay with Bruce and separate from her husband, or Doug should be cuckolded without separating. There's also the possibility that Doug could at least stay with Stacy and regain some pride.

But in the red pill route, Raffa increasingly neglects her husband, whether because of her entertainment with others or because she's losing respect for Doug. "Poor ignorant husband," that's what she call Doug. That red pill route isn't favorable for Doug and Raffa as a couple. Raffa cheats on him, disrespects him, neglects him, doesn't consult him, uses him, manipulates him. That's not love; it's the complete opposite. That's when you stop caring about someone.

Meanwhile, the blue pill route is more like you described.

Have you played the Blue route? Raffa is toxic towards Doug and falls in love with Bruce in both routes. The blue route is nothing more than another was that Doug copes with his wife's infidelity. She's detestable in both paths. She just doesn't torture him as much in the blue path, but her extra honest is a double edged sword.

 

[Dr.John Bums]

Everything you said in the bottom half (which I already believe is the case), confirms that Raffa was a cheating whore from the very beginning. You're confirming her guilt while trying to downplay it. What argument are you trying make?

The magic pills are like pouring oil on a fire.
That's what I'm trying to say.
The pills don't change her guilt.

However, the whole thing with the pills could take a dark turn, since she's getting these magic pills from Erick.
It's worth mentioning that Erick is extremely jealous of Bruce, as we see when Doug and Jim smoke weed during their first visit to the bar.
We also see Erick acting like he's being treated unfairly, and he sometimes successfully tries to blame Raffa, which works.
However, Raffa tries to keep her actions to Erick to a minimum, since she doesn't really like him.
She only tolerates him because of his large penis, and what she does with him is probably mainly to please Bruce.
Erick notices that Raffa doesn't really want to let him get close, and he's really angry and frustrated about it.
I suspect that in the future Erick will use other drugs to make Raffa compliant in order to rape her, or he will rape her with sheer force when his frustration becomes too great.

 

[nasahilaindirim]

The magic pills are like pouring oil on a fire.
That's what I'm trying to say.
The pills don't change her guilt.

However, the whole thing with the pills could take a dark turn, since she's getting these magic pills from Erick.
It's worth mentioning that Erick is extremely jealous of Bruce, as we see when Doug and Jim smoke weed during their first visit to the bar.
We also see Erick acting like he's being treated unfairly, and he sometimes successfully tries to blame Raffa, which works.
However, Raffa tries to keep her actions to Erick to a minimum, since she doesn't really like him.
She only tolerates him because of his large penis, and what she does with him is probably mainly to please Bruce.
Erick notices that Raffa doesn't really want to let him get close, and he's really angry and frustrated about it.
I suspect that in the future Erick will use other drugs to make Raffa compliant in order to rape her, or he will rape her with sheer force when his frustration becomes too great.

The last two sentences are makes me so horny.. I hope my friend I hope <3

 

[Caramel512]

disturbing in what way? are u not gonna keep playing further or what

The blue pill route is NTR disguised as NTS. The relentless humiliation in both paths is insane. Basically, the path is nothing more than a coping mechanism for Raffa's infidelity. Approve or she'll cheat anyway. Your wife is still manipulative, humiliates you, and sides with the "friends" when you get angry at them disrespecting you and sexually assaulting her in front of you. She still gaslights you, and she falls in love with Bruce, replacing you as her primary love interest. The only difference is, she's less cruel then she is in the red path, allows you limited say in how fast she goes, not how far she goes, and she's more honest. The agreement feels forced, not genuine. The relationship is very one sided. You are just a sexually negligible roommate to be managed as she pursues other men.

The extra honesty is a double edged sword. She confesses her obsession of Bruce to you, tells you that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, but not with you. Then pushes you to spend time when Stacy to keep her away from Bruce.

If that's a love path, then who needs a hate path?

 

[Grumpybum]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could use the multiquote function instead of replying to half a dozen posts in a row? And wouldn't it also be nice if we could talk about the actual game, rather than having the millionth discussion on this forum about what one person or another thinks NTR is or what NTS is...?

Looks like he didnt read your post brother.

Out of his 20 comments posted in his 5 years of being a member 18 of them are in this thread today.....

Caramel512 we get it dude, you don’t like the game because you think it's all NTR, you dont need to keep repeating yourself....

 

[Caramel512]

Well, we're not going to agree on this one, we see it differently and that's fine, I actually find your point of view very interesting.

That's because he's correct. Raffa is manipulative, cruel, and devious in both paths. He's just coping her infidelity by consenting to it.

 

[Caramel512]

Looks like he didnt read your post brother.

Out of his 17 comments posted in his 5 years of being a member 15 of them are in this thread today.....

Caramel512 we get it dude, you don’t like the game because you think it's all NTR, you dont need to keep repeating yourself....

If they are wrong then explain.

 

[Grumpybum]

If they are with then explain.

I know your comment is written English, but the order the words are put together makes no sense.

What I will explain though is this, you dont have to keep telling us that the game is fake NTS because you said it already, we read it and understand your opinion and you won't get people to agree with you by repeating the same thing over and over again because their opinion doesn't have to be the same as yours and it won't make the game itself different.

If you dont like the game then dont play it, spend your time wisely by playing a game you enjoy and discussing it with other fans.

Also most of your comments will probably be removed for being off topic by the way (read the site rules)

 

[Caramel512]

I just started playing the game and played till 2nd Day Dance club but as a corruption fan I felt something is off, not that she became a slut in instant, now it's all about leveling it up; I play many NTR/NTS game for the fmc corruption kink so in NTS wife being a slut already or Hubby being a beta cuck already isn't the issue. But the way she talked Doug into it, it's not other way around. So like many others before me I translated Raffa's italian:

Spoiler: Raffa's Italian Translation Before Route

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Also the clue system is good, I don't know how good it is later but till now it was fun. With both her italian and clue system I found it's not a NTS or NTR story. But a reverse Corruption story where Raffa manipulates and gaslights Doug into accepting her slut side. She was acting all innocent the 2 years they were married, not showing a risky bikini cause it's too embarrassing or doing things with him like giving deep throat. And testing the water every now and then --- the charismas party previous year with the coworkers where she parade as sexy santa. So when Doug asked her to dress slutty it's like he gave her the opportunity in silver platter

And If I don't find the clue she will keep things to herself even in Blue path. Like never saying about Butt plug if Doug didn't find it. She keeps it to herself cause her ass is now Bruce's so it felt everything about it doesn't concern MC. Like even before route split she wished Erik kept the panties hidden so she didn't have to explain it to Doug.

How did you? Ughh (Erik has her panties) --------- (She stops the story after telling she showed her butt to Erik, only tells further if MC brings them up. And even then gets surprised that he saw her panties with Erik which she thought he would keep secret and she didn't need to tell Doug)

Both path are how she handles Doug.
In Blue path she will manipulate, push a little further, if fucked up say sorry and push a little low. If Doug denies most things only then later it seems she enjoys things with him truly. Otherwise she do things further further, though she asks she will nudge things first. Even in low slut points she clings to Bruce. Gets Jelous with Stacy over Bruce.

The Red path is more about her not caring about any more being subtle. She got angry cause she thinks her manipulation would have brought some fruits (which actually has but she doesn't know it) that's why when Doug says no she got angry. Now she is trying different tactic. Humiliating him, making him 2nd guess everything, getting annoyed when her fun time interrupted and asking him to knock and see if he complies.

In red path she isn't trying to cheat or leave cause in the last kitchen scene she actually confess but just want to be in control where he will be a true cuckold like those hotwife stories. where the hubby will wait for wife at home while she is partying all night, she can be with her friends or in a gangbang but he can't know or say anything. Will just wait obediently.

I know it's a porn game so shouldn't dive too much into it. But the subtle things like the clue system, Raffa's nodding etc made me wishful that the Dev actually is paying attention to the story.

You're spot on about everything. The two paths are simply two different ways that Raffa manages Doug as she pursues her sexual desires.

 

[Caramel512]

I know your comment is written English, but the order the words are put together makes no sense.

What I will explain though is this, you dont have to keep telling us that the game is fake NTS because you said it already, we read it and understand your opinion and you won't get people to agree with you by repeating the same thing over and over again because their opinion doesn't have to be the same as yours and it won't make the game itself different.

If you dont like the game then dont play it, spend your time wisely by playing a game you enjoy and discussing it with other fans.

Also most of your comments will probably be removed for being off topic by the way (read the site rules)

They are on topic. They are about the game. And they are responses to other comments about the same topic. So, what is off topic?

The developer should reconsider the game's description and this problem won't exist.

 

[Grumpybum]

They are on topic. They are about the game. And they are responses to other comments about the same topic. So, what is off topic?

The developer should reconsider the game's description and this problem won't exist.

The repetitive NTR v NTS discussion is off topic and spamming the thread with it is unnecessary, like TonyMurray said, use multiquotes and reply to all the comments you like.

Ignoring it and going to a different thread would also make the problem not exist...

 

[xcalibar4]

I think the humor filled porn logic dev wanted to convey was good in the beginning. But by the time the divergent choice came Raffa's action made her more into manipulating bitch than a loving wife.

Her actions makes me remember the joke about three frnds where one is shot to death between both of his eyes and other two saying at-least his eyes are intact. So when Raffa is divorced & end up single & miserable she would be like at-least I got to fuck a big dick in my ass.

 

[delain]

So when Raffa is divorced & end up single & miserable

nah
she would just find another Doug

 

[elbro]

Even though the game's creator says it's based on porn logic, it sure stirs up a lot of reactions, . Credit to him, believe it or not. We have to accept that new people will come to the game and want to comment on what they felt, and we won't always agree. That's just how NTR and NTS are. You have to be patient because this game can really upset players with situations that humiliate Doug, things done behind his back, not consulting him, feeling displaced by his wife, etc.

Not everyone will understand that this is the point of the game, and in my opinion, it does it very well. By the time you finish both routes and want to play again, you might even find it funny.

My recommendation would be not to take the situations in the game so seriously.