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Strangely, the "porn logic" works really well for me. Lots of games on here want to be really serious and have this "slow burn" to make it more realistic but this game goes all out pretty much since day 1. It's funny, it's hot and it's somewhat realistic.

I can't wait for more updates and for Rafaella to push boundaries. Maybe even a whole ass gangbang down the line .

Have a great start to your year everyone.
 

Bestigger

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Strangely, the "porn logic" works really well for me. Lots of games on here want to be really serious and have this "slow burn" to make it more realistic but this game goes all out pretty much since day 1. It's funny, it's hot and it's somewhat realistic.

I can't wait for more updates and for Rafaella to push boundaries. Maybe even a whole ass gangbang down the line .

Have a great start to your year everyone.
I wouldn't touch an NTR game without a good serving of porn logic/light-hearted tones. Otherwise it'd be miserable and I'd hate everyone involved too much to find it stimulating at all.
 

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From what I read in the game script of the latest jacuzzi night event on the blue route Raffa seemed convinced Doug was watching and condoning what she was doing, she immediately drops what she's doing and comes running back to him as soon as he gives the signal. Would be paranoid to interpret that as ntr.
What troubled me about the last update was the Doug & the whore agreed upon choices but she pushed beyond those choices and said, "oops; did I do that?" And Doug, who moments before (as the player) said, "don't do that" now says "I love that she did that." Just because the dev changes the script to say, "and Doug loved that!" doesn't take away the feeling the player was just cheated on a decision.

She still appears to be truthful with Doug at least but when stories override decisions I made earlier, my NTR detector starts going off. Do I know she has cheated on him? No, I don't. But I'm starting to see signs suggesting she might have and with the way that NTS games seem to go these days (the "surprise" NTR) I'm hypersensitive about seeing it, even when it might not be there yet. That scene on the couch during the movie when eeeeeveryone threw Stacey at Doug to distract him... ...just seemed mighty suspicious, that's all.

If nothing else, I haven't noticed her lying yet so I expect that if the dev allows Doug to ask her about it she will tell the truth. Unless the dev burns that bridge with us, too.
 

Caramel512

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Sounds a lot like Bruce with respect to the wife and Stacey. In the genes, perhaps?



To me, abandoning him would be merciful so I don't expect it to happen (and the NTR/NTS folks would hate it). So, of course the developer won't write the story that way. Verbal/physical abuse and humiliation of Doug might be written into this story as acts of love since he "loves" being cucked.
The NTS folks should already hate it considering that there is no NTS in the game. It's all NTR, regardless of the path chosen. The wife has fallen in love with Bruce and clearly doesn't love Doug, she manipulated Doug and cheats before the Blue path is available. The choice was approve or she'll cheat anyway. That's NTR, not NTS.
 

Caramel512

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why do you people play ntr games? I can't understand you folks. Always coming into ntr game threads & demanding vanilla/revenge path. Have you ever seen ntr fans asking for a ntr path in love based games?
NTR doesn't always mean being a cuckold, and it doesn't necessarily require relentless humiliation with no agency whatsoever. The game description describes the blue path as Love/NTS sharing path, but that is a lie. In reality, both paths are NTR. They are just two different ways the MC copes with the wife's infidelity and relentless humiliation. Many people who like NTR/NTS don't like humiliation.

I played this game because I was hoping for a wife sharing game (Adventurous Couple, Another Man's Wife), not a game in which the MC would be endlessly bullied and humiliated by a toxic wife and her friends without any willingness to standup for himself.

Occasionally, I don't mind an NTR game in which the cheating is done more discreetly, and less maliciously, in which the MC has some agency(control over his decisions).

The games description makes it out as if the husband is pulling the strings in both paths. It gives a false narrative when compared to the actual game experience in which the wife is pulling the strings and manipulating the husband. Humiliation is the primary feature of the game, but there is no mention of it in the description. Humiliation is such an extreme fetish that it should have it's own disclaimer. This is a huge problem because it leads players into a trap they didn't sign up for.
 
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Caramel512

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Doug probably lost the cap for the bottle, or the genie isn't oiled enough to slip into the bottle :KEK:

Ultimately, Doug can only influence Raffa's behavior to a limited extent, and Raffa is likely under the influence of ecstasy, which is probably one reason why she's becoming increasingly out of control.
Even on the Blue Route, Doug's influence is waning, the NTS path seems to be slowly transforming into the NTR.
The so-called NTS path was NTR from the very beginning. The wife had already cheated on him twice without his consent before the Blue path was available. Not to mention she was screaming Bruce's name while having sex with her husband the night before. His choice was approve or she'll do it anyway. The husband's approval was meaningless. It was capitulation, not consent. That is NTR, not NTS.
 

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To me it already has with this last update. Kind of everything was forced with Jacuzzi being the big one. Forcing things with Erick who I avoided thus far. Just felt too ntr to me, all choices gone.

The dev used to give us choices, but all gone in last update, and now everything feels forced. The dev has also been pretty silent recently, which doesn't help. But after this update, I am done with Rafa and maybe VN unless dev goes back and changes stuff, but doubt he will.
Everything was forced from the beginning.
 
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Caramel512

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That could only happen in Doug's dreams.
Raffa would go mad if Stacy undressed near Doug or if she were naked around him.
Even though she makes fun of Doug and cheats on him, Raffa is insanely jealous.
Besides, Raffa can't stand Stacy because Stacy is Doug's ex.
I think Raffa is afraid that Stacy might seduce Doug or even destroy their marriage, and Raffa isn't entirely wrong about that.
If you played the Blue path that's supposed to be NTS(it's not) but is actually a coping mechanism for his wife's infidelity, Raefela tells you that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, not with you. She even pushes her husband to spend more time with Stacy, to keep Stacy away from Bruce. Bruce is who she loves, not the husband.
 
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NTR doesn't always mean being a cuckold, and it doesn't necessarily require relentless humiliation with no agency whatsoever. The game description describes the blue path as Love/NTS sharing path, but that is a lie. In reality, both paths are NTR. They are just two different ways the MC copes with the wife's infidelity and relentless humiliation. Many people who like NTR/NTS don't like humiliation.

I played this game because I was hoping for a wife sharing game (Adventurous Couple, Another Man's Wife), not a game in which the MC would be endlessly bullied and humiliated by a toxic wife and her friends without any willingness to standup for himself.

Occasionally, I don't mind an NTR game in which the cheating is done more discreetly, and less maliciously, in which the MC has some agency(control over his decisions).

The games description makes it out as if the husband is pulling the strings in both paths. It gives a false narrative when compared to the actual game experience in which the wife is pulling the strings and manipulating the husband. Humiliation is the primary feature of the game, but there is no mention of it in the description. Humiliation is such an extreme fetish that it should have it's own disclaimer. This is a huge problem because it leads players into a trap they didn't sign up for.
I think it's also an NTS game. After all, it was Doug's idea for Raffaela to behave provocatively towards Bruce and the others. When she then takes things further on her own initiative, Doug discovers that he finds it exciting. They agree between themselves that only they know about it. And that it's okay with Doug for the others to think that Raffaela is cheating on him. And in the Blue Path, Doug can stop Raffaela if things go too far. Raffaela recounts what happens in detail. For example, in the shower scene in the Blue Path, she says that Bruce asks if she wants to join him. And then you can decide whether to go or not. If she goes, she recounts what happened in the shower.
On the red path, things are different. Raffaela doesn't tell you that Bruce is in the shower and she just leaves. While as a player you get the impression that they had sex in the shower, you only find out indirectly that this wasn't the case.

I think the real problem is that the scenes on the blue and red paths don't differ much from each other. It's only the text that differs between the passages. I would like to see more variation so that they are more clearly distinguished from each other. Because it's true that in some sections it makes no difference whether you choose the blue or red path. Only the narrative structure changes. Because even in the red path, Doug thinks what happens is hot. The Jacuzzi scene is a good example. It happens either way, with the only difference being at the end. Namely, on the blue path, she wants to tell what happened and go into detail. Whereas on the red path, she just lies down in bed exhausted and doesn't want to talk about anything.

But I think we have to be fair to the developer. Creating extra scenes is time-consuming. And we can't expect him to be making a game for us 24/7. That's why I personally think it's okay that the main differences between the blue and red paths are more in the text than in the scenes. Although, of course, there are other scenes on the blue path as well.
 

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Wouldn't it be nice if we could use the multiquote function instead of replying to half a dozen posts in a row? And wouldn't it also be nice if we could talk about the actual game, rather than having the millionth discussion on this forum about what one person or another thinks NTR is or what NTS is...?
 

Caramel512

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Rafa seems to be jealous of/hate Stacy because of her relationship with Bruce first, MC second (if at all).


"No hablo spanish"? Feels like Bruce couldn't give the slightest shit about her beyond fucking her for a few days and getting his NTI kick out of how it humiliates the MC. Anything to suggest he even shared Stacy with others the way he already doesn't mind sharing Rafa with Erick, random pizza guy and whoever else shows up?

Also consider how much less exciting sex with Bruce would be for her without the cuckolding aspect - it's possible she wasn't lying when she claimed she had the best orgasm of her life during her first post-cucking fuck with MC right at the start of the game (if she wasn't lying that's what she was referring to during the poker game when she again said MC gave her the best orgasm of her life).
In the blue path the wife tells Doug that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, but not with Doug. She even pushes Doug to spend more time with Stacy to keep her away from Bruce. So there you have it.
 
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If you played the Blue path that's supposed to be NTS(it's not) but is actually a coping mechanism for his wife's infidelity, Raefela tells you that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, not with you. She even pushes her husband to spend more time with Stacy, to keep Stacy away from Bruce. Bruce is who she loves, not the husband.
That's not quite right.

Raffa isn't just jealous of Bruce and Stacy, but also of the fact that Doug and Stacy used to be a couple.
Even before choosing their route during their first visit to the bar, Raffa accuses Doug of declaring his love for Stacy.
Raffa is clearly jealous, which is probably why she'll never allow Doug to start anything with another woman, and certainly not with Stacy.
Raffa sees the sharing arrangement as Doug only having to share her with Bruce and the others, but Doug himself isn't allowed to have anyone else.
Things will get interesting on the Red Path in the future if Raffa ever finds out that Doug and Stacy are seeing each other.
She'll probably completely lose it if she finds out, or worse, if she catches them having sex...
I think we'll see Raffa in rage mode and/or she'll turn into a super slut and organize a gangbang that Doug can't miss, to get back at him for cheating.
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Caramel512

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I think it's also an NTS game. After all, it was Doug's idea for Raffaela to behave provocatively towards Bruce and the others. When she then takes things further on her own initiative, Doug discovers that he finds it exciting. They agree between themselves that only they know about it. And that it's okay with Doug for the others to think that Raffaela is cheating on him. And in the Blue Path, Doug can stop Raffaela if things go too far. Raffaela recounts what happens in detail. For example, in the shower scene in the Blue Path, she says that Bruce asks if she wants to join him. And then you can decide whether to go or not. If she goes, she recounts what happened in the shower.
On the red path, things are different. Raffaela doesn't tell you that Bruce is in the shower and she just leaves. While as a player you get the impression that they had sex in the shower, you only find out indirectly that this wasn't the case.

I think the real problem is that the scenes on the blue and red paths don't differ much from each other. It's only the text that differs between the passages. I would like to see more variation so that they are more clearly distinguished from each other. Because it's true that in some sections it makes no difference whether you choose the blue or red path. Only the narrative structure changes. Because even in the red path, Doug thinks what happens is hot. The Jacuzzi scene is a good example. It happens either way, with the only difference being at the end. Namely, on the blue path, she wants to tell what happened and go into detail. Whereas on the red path, she just lies down in bed exhausted and doesn't want to talk about anything.

But I think we have to be fair to the developer. Creating extra scenes is time-consuming. And we can't expect him to be making a game for us 24/7. That's why I personally think it's okay that the main differences between the blue and red paths are more in the text than in the scenes. Although, of course, there are other scenes on the blue path as well.
Doug never told her to act provocatively towards his friends. He asks her to dress more attractively; be atrophy wife. He never asked her to allow herself to be groped, playing it off as a prank, he never asked her to get fingered by Bruce and he never asked her to take her close off for Erick. She chose to do all of those things then she manipulated and gaslighted Doug into accepting them. Doug also didn't ask her to repeatedly scream Bruce's name while having sex with him. Doug never had any real power, so his approval was meaningless. The alternative to him approving is that she would cheat anyway. The blue path was tainted from the start, so NTS was never possible. Furthermore Doug never maintains his status as Raffa's primary love interest. This is confirmed when Raffa confesses her obsession of Bruce to Doug and tells him that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, but not with Doug. That is NTR.
 

Caramel512

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disturbing in what way? are u not gonna keep playing further or what
The blue pill route is NTR disguised as NTS. The relentless humiliation in both paths is insane. Basically, the path is nothing more than a coping mechanism for Raffa's infidelity. Approve or she'll cheat anyway. Your wife is still manipulative, humiliates you, and sides with the "friends" when you get angry at them disrespecting you and sexually assaulting her in front of you. She still gaslights you, and she falls in love with Bruce, replacing you as her primary love interest. The only difference is, she's less cruel then she is in the red path, allows you limited say in how fast she goes, not how far she goes, and she's more honest. The agreement feels forced, not genuine. The relationship is very one sided. You are just a sexually negligible roommate to be managed as she pursues other men.

The extra honesty is a double edged sword. She confesses her obsession of Bruce to you, tells you that she's only jealous of Stacy with Bruce, but not with you. Then pushes you to spend time when Stacy to keep her away from Bruce.

If that's a love path, then who needs a hate path?
 
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