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i don't know why succubi being succubi is that much of a problem? i understand that his last game was different. but he is not ubisoft or tryarch, i believe that he has the ability to branch out to try new things. i personally think that the succubi are done right so far. you drink water right (aleast some form of it) we need it to survive. succubi need cum(lifeforce) in most media to survive, its their water. we as humans can only survive so long without it before we start having severe problems with our body.hell some people find it sexual to drink form the same water bottle. while the contract states that they leave. what is stopping them from coming back? you are a prime male for their program, enough for the contract to even happen in the first place. so corrupt them, make them love you, make them yours instead. it's only been a few days in game and you as the mc are already affecting them. you got months to make them your harem.
 
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succubi need cum(lifeforce) in most media to survive, its their water. we as humans can only survive so long without it before we start having severe problems with our body.
The game literally goes out of it's way to explain why they don't need cum to survive... they live from their parents energy, they go into that programm to activate their own energy generation.
so corrupt them
Dude...how exactly do you want to corrupt these girls :KEK:
They are cumdumpsters who can't go a couple of days whitout fucking, no matter who the dick belongs too (and this has nothing to do with surviving), they happily tell you continiously about the dicks they had, or that one has a bf (no fucking others doesn't bother either one)...if they wouldn't kill humans by fucking them they'd already happily fucking the entire neighbourhood, no matter their feelings for the MC.
make them love you
The MC is literally unable to love thanks to the pact, for the whole duration of the pact.
And these girls have exactly zero problems to fuck anything what moves even when they have loved ones, like the girl with a bf, or the vid call with one of the mothers which happily talks she's going to fuck the neighbours...
what is stopping them from coming back?
Who knows, probably nothing, if you're fine with it that they had a couple of trains run on them
make them yours instead
...yeah...see above, also who wants a couple of used up cumdumpsters in a ''romance'' game
 
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The game literally goes out of it's way to explain why they don't need cum to survive... they live from their parents energy, they go into that programm to activate their own energy generation.

Dude...how exactly do you want to corrupt these girls :KEK:
They are cumdumpsters who can't go a couple of days whitout fucking, no matter who the dick belongs too (and this has nothing to do with surviving), they happily tell you continiously about the dicks they had, or that one has a bf (no fucking others doesn't bother either one)...if they wouldn't kill humans by fucking them they'd already happily fucking the entire neighbourhood, no matter their feelings for the MC.

The MC is literally unable to love thanks to the pact, for the whole duration of the pact.
And these girls have exactly zero problems to fuck anything what moves even when they have loved ones, like the girl with a bf, or the vid call with one of the mothers which happily talks she's going to fuck the neighbours...

Who knows, probably nothing, if you're fine with it that they had a couple of trains run on them

...yeah...see above, also who wants a couple of used up cumdumpsters in a ''romance'' game
1. i said most media for a reference point to what succubi inherently are.
2. there are different forms of corruption. the meaning i had was to make them want yours the most so they keep coming back ie that 1 with a boyfriend. in this case she is loyal to him. so make her yours instead.
3. unless you are fine with l*li, succubi are inherently sexual. there is a inherent sex drive in humans, most demons have it multiplied due to demonic energy. you are as mc also affected to a degree by said energy due to your genes as stated in the game (your dong and seduction powers )
4. there are also romance media where you steal the girl from a "bad" (depends on opinion) situation and make her yours.
 

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1. i said most media for a reference point to what succubi inherently are.
2. there are different forms of corruption. the meaning i had was to make them want yours the most so they keep coming back ie that 1 with a boyfriend. in this case she is loyal to him. so make her yours instead.
3. unless you are fine with l*li, succubi are inherently sexual. there is a inherent sex drive in humans, most demons have it multiplied due to demonic energy. you are as mc also affected to a degree by said energy due to your genes as stated in the game (your dong and seduction powers )
4. there are also romance media where you steal the girl from a "bad" (depends on opinion) situation and make her yours.
1) Those Succubi aren't that, those Succubi are worse.

2)Your problem is that MC has no emotional connection to any of them, so why should he do anything you propose here? he doesn't want to. He gets specifically paid, so he can not want to do that.

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4) Same answer as in 2 MC doesn't want to because of the pact.

Also, for both 2&4 why should the player want to? They are worse than street whores that blow you for a 5er to buy crack
 

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i don't know why succubi being succubi is that much of a problem? i understand that his last game was different. but he is not ubisoft or tryarch, i believe that he has the ability to branch out to try new things. i personally think that the succubi are done right so far. you drink water right (aleast some form of it) we need it to survive. succubi need cum(lifeforce) in most media to survive, its their water. we as humans can only survive so long without it before we start having severe problems with our body.hell some people find it sexual to drink form the same water bottle. while the contract states that they leave. what is stopping them from coming back? you are a prime male for their program, enough for the contract to even happen in the first place. so corrupt them, make them love you, make them yours instead. it's only been a few days in game and you as the mc are already affecting them. you got months to make them your harem.
The problem I, personally, have with the game is not that the succubi have fucked more than a level 20 bard, it's specifically that the massive lore dump at the start of the game explains, in excruciating detail, why they absolutely should all be virgins, and yet they end up being the opposite. It's basically a huge bait and switch scenario. If, after the lore dump(or preferably sooner), they had mentioned that the succubi all had vaginas wider than the Grand Canyon, I'd have saved myself a fair bit of time, declined the contract, watched the good ending, and considered the game a short masterpiece.

Everything about the game, especially the lore dump, led me to believe that this game was all about breaking in virgin succubi. I like virgin LIs, it's one of my major kinks. I don't mind non-virgin LIs, provided they aren't promiscuous. The one thing I hate to see most in these games is LIs that talk about their past/current experience with other guys, especially when they do so during sex. In this game, you'd be hard pressed to find 6 lines of dialogue from any of the succubi that isn't them talking about taking other dicks, past present or future. And that is especially true during sex scenes.

My other big gripe with this game is that the MC had his ability to fall in love locked away before he ever knew succubi, or the contract, existed. He was manipulated into becoming a prostitute from birth. His childhood friend was in love with him for years, and was essentially tortured, because the demons prevented her soul mate from loving her back, just so that they could have their walking dildo available when the time was right.

The only thing the dev did right, and I am actually quite grateful for it, is allowing us to turn down the contract, and have a surprisingly long and detailed good ending with the only likeable LI in the game. I gave up on the main story during the first sex scene, due to the non-stop ranting about other dicks, and decided to just consider the early good ending to be the whole game.
 

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ah i see what the problems are now. thanks for explaining it to me. i personaly don't think it is that much of of a problem for succubi to be succubi but i see what you mean about the lore dump reversal. it could be rectified considering he only released the first few days so far, and it is still early on in dev. i do admit i forgot about the virgin in contract portion ( it has been a few months since i played "waiting for update") so that is a hole in plot that i didn't think about. he still has some emotions considering he still has gratitude to the family that he lives with. i guess the emotional thing has a hole too? unless it is just non-familial love that is locked.
 

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1. i said most media for a reference point to what succubi inherently are.
2. there are different forms of corruption. the meaning i had was to make them want yours the most so they keep coming back ie that 1 with a boyfriend. in this case she is loyal to him. so make her yours instead.
3. unless you are fine with l*li, succubi are inherently sexual. there is a inherent sex drive in humans, most demons have it multiplied due to demonic energy. you are as mc also affected to a degree by said energy due to your genes as stated in the game (your dong and seduction powers )
4. there are also romance media where you steal the girl from a "bad" (depends on opinion) situation and make her yours.
1) Yeah...demons, the guys which are all about chaos, curruption, murder, slaughter, torture and eternal damnation.
Or for incubi/succubi that they would rape, torture and skin their victims alive (and not necceserialy in that order, or all at once) before having the victims soul as a nice meal....i think we can safely rule out what they classical/ inherently are, those aren't that, at all.

Actually they are worse, those are just some cock hungry bimbos, could have used normal whores it would have made no difference and the timed prostitution contract they already have.
On the other hand, a redemption arc and romance for a 'classical' succubus could have been quite interesting, if good written.
Was my favorite character and romance path in the latested Pathfinder game.

2) what do you mean with her being loyal to her bf...she obviously has no problems or even a bad conscience to fuck anything what moves.
Beside that, i see no point why i would want to make them ''mine''... it's like you want to steal a meal from a homeless kitchen, you would have given one when asked anyway and the meals are served to anyone...

3) I don't think anything of that was mentioned in the game...and we have already ruled out they are classical demons in any way, nor classical succubi with the porn cliche of needing cum.

But going along with that line of thought for a moment.
You want to make them yours, make them love you etc but alas their very nature, what makes them demons/succubi in the first place makes them sluts...how do you want to archive that, change their entire nature, seems unlikely to say at least ?

4) Yeah, but to steal something it would need to have worth, they are worse then street hookers, the MC is a walking dildo to them. I also don't see the MC doing it, cause he can't have any romantical attachment in the first place.


To add to TsubameYui post.
Yes, it felt like bait and switch and i have no problems with LI's not being virgins (thought it is what would have made sense listening to the games explanation)... but i have zero interest in sluts. The girls constantly ranting about all the dicks and other guys they had is an absolute turn off and something which lets me ignore said LI asap, also a nice way tu ruin a sex scene...

Yeah, what they did to the MC to keep him away from the only LI which actually has any worth in this game pissed me off, but i agree, the good ending was nice and had some content. I consider the game completed with that.
 
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1) Yeah...demons, the guys which are all about chaos, curruption, murder, slaughter, torture and eternal damnation.
Or for incubi/succubi that they would rape, torture and skin their victims alive (and not necceserialy in that order, or all at once) before having the victims soul as a nice meal....i think we can safely rule out what they classical/ inherently are, those aren't that, at all.

Actually they are worse, those are just some cock hungry bimbos, could have used normal whores it would have made no difference and the timed prostitution contract they already have.
On the other hand, a redemption arc and romance for a 'classical' succubus could have been quite interesting, if good written.
Was my favorite character and romance path in the latested Pathfinder game.

2) what do you mean with her being loyal to her bf...she obviously has no problems or even a bad conscience to fuck anything what moves.
Beside that, i see no point why i would want to make them ''mine''... it's like you want to steal a meal from a homeless kitchen, you would have given one when asked anyway and the meals are served to anyone...

3) I don't think anything of that was mentioned in the game...and we have already ruled out they are classical demons in any way, nor classical succubi with the porn cliche of needing cum.

But going along with that line of thought for a moment.
You want to make them yours, make them love you etc but alas their very nature, what makes them demons/succubi in the first place makes them sluts...how do you want to archive that, change their entire nature, seems unlikely to say at least ?

4) Yeah, but to steal something it would need to have worth, they are worse then street hookers, the MC is a walking dildo to them. I also don't see the MC doing it, cause he can't have any romantical attachment in the first place.


To add to TsubameYui post.
Yes, it felt like bait and switch and i have no problems with LI's not being virgins (thought it is what would have made sense listening to the games explanation)... but i have zero interest in sluts. The girls constantly ranting about all the dicks and other guys they had is an absolute turn off and something which lets me ignore said LI asap, also a nice way tu ruin a sex scene...

Yeah, what they did to the MC to keep him away from the only LI which actually has any worth in this game pissed me off, but i agree, the good ending was nice and had some content. I consider the game completed with that.
i get that they are not classical succubi but there are other forms than just absolute classical. every race in fantasy follows a trope to even a small degree. elves are commonly associated with nature. dwarves are commonly associated with rock or blacksmithing. in this case succubi are associated with lust to a absurd degree, that still makes them succubi tho. its the reason i kept bringing up the "most media thing". i mean try to find a single form of media in a fantasy setting where the humans dont have a single kingdom or country. i do admit you might find a few, but that is such a low amount and they probably have a unique story telling device why (which is rare mind you).
for the loyalty thing it is because she straight says that she will go back to "him". that means 1 boyfriend. they may have an open relationship but she will always go back to him. that is what i mean by make them yours. make that "him" you, so she keeps coming back to you. in essence that makes her yours to a degree. you can probably further that by making her dependant/want you more than wanting to go get laid elswhere.
i see where you are coming from and i understand that to a degree. i already got the theory of why its bad from the previous responses. thank you for the the further explanition tho.

ps.(i apoloogize if i started an argument or seem ranty. im old and i legitimately didn't see what was wrong with it, and wanted to know why.) thank you all for responding
 
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more like putting your dick in the needle pit from saw you are gonna get all types of stds like a pokemon trainer XD
apt comparison, you have probably a better chance to get away std free if you bed a nurse from the Silent Hill Hospital, compared to the LIs here
 
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:ROFLMAO:Yall are brutal out here, but I do agree on basically all of these points, especially the -constant- bickering about other guys dicks, at this point, it might as well be an ntr game. I admittedly haven't played yet, but if that's a prominent thing, I certainly don't want to, which is a shame, because from the screenshots the scenes seem nice visually- Dev is using a actually somewhat detailed cock model for the MC, which is more rare than it should be for Koikatsu games. I really hope he reads some of this feedback and implements changes, wish nothing but the best for him and this game, I'll be keeping an eye out for it.
 

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I always find the double standards here funny. MC meets up with his ex he broke up with almost half a year ago, fucks her then has a threesome with her and her friend. Mary mentions that he was always fucking around with randoms. Bro's been a slut his whole life but the only thing that bothers anyone here is that the succubi have been sluts. Talking like they're for the streets as if the MC isn't just as much so.
Like don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with not liking slutty characters but then the MC should've turned y'all off from this long before you discovered how slutty the LIs are.
 

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I always find the double standards here funny. MC meets up with his ex he broke up with almost half a year ago, fucks her then has a threesome with her and her friend. Mary mentions that he was always fucking around with randoms. Bro's been a slut his whole life but the only thing that bothers anyone here is that the succubi have been sluts. Talking like they're for the streets as if the MC isn't just as much so.
Like don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with not liking slutty characters but then the MC should've turned y'all off from this long before you discovered how slutty the LIs are.
Yeah that didn't make the MC really likable.
But the MC literally can't love because the demons wanted to turn him into a walking dildo for their program..so there's that, also the reason he never was going for his childhood friend.
 
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