VN Ren'Py My Netorase Obsession [v1.0a] [DrusasNTS]

[Oddyy]

And honestly it was high time a game like this made the move i had enough with the boring stag type we are friends together type of nts finally a game that i can really enjoy for once

As long as they’re still as close as ever by the end of the game is all that matters to me. I just want them both to be happy still

 

[Neonviolet]

As long as they’re still as close as ever by the end of the game is all that matters to me. I just want them both to be happy still

I don't have any problem with happiness my man trust me but to tell you the truth i love to have both a good one and a bad end to my games as a rpg enthusiast this game and netorase aside i always loved choices that matter and may have consequences later on

 

[the_the]

But Erica can't control Ruffo, maybe you're missing something.

Here is how I think Erica can gain leverage over Ruffo:
Ruffo's self-image, the story he tells himself, is that he is improving to become a nice guy. (If this is true doesn't matter, it’s the story he tells Juliet.) Juliet believes this story and expressed this to Erica. Juliet sees Erica as competition but also a friend. She tells Erica (scene 2017), “…you’re a good person “. So there is leverage potentially through Juliet.

Erica can play referee to Ruffo’s behavior. She can offer Ruffo what he wants most, being seen as better, but only if he acts better with Erica as witness and referee and importantly when under pressure.
Kaori can then use soft power “If you want to spend time together, then learn restraint.” She can also use subtle cues in public as to Ruffo’s behavior. She can praise him when he’s good and ignore or be annoyed when he isn’t. The under pressure part is important for this to be real.

This fits her pattern so far. And this creates triangulation tension. Erica’s intimacy with Ruffo is not just affair heat, it becomes loaded with self-improvement and harm reduction to others.

The three pressures in this are Erica’s rationalization, Juliet's trust, and Ruffo’s fear that Erica can define his story to Juliet and others.

Erica might be able to control Ruffo through her, control of access to herself, her influence on Juliet’s view of Ruffo, and Erica’s position as public witness.

In a scene, this could play out as Erica meeting Juliet for lunch, and discussing a recent event with Ruffo. Erica could carefully but honestly tell Juliet what she saw. Ruffo would then hear about and come to Erica not because he cares about the facts, but he cares about the narrative.

Or in a scene, Ruffo is acting inappropriately and Erica could say “After you acted like that, I don’t think I can look Juliet in the eye again.” If Ruffo bullies Ed, Erica would say “if you treat my family that way, then you’ll treat me that way too.”

If this becomes puppeteering then it doesn’t work. Erica can’t directly tell Ruffo what to do to get something.

 

[Oddyy]

Here is how I think Erica can gain leverage over Ruffo:
Ruffo's self-image, the story he tells himself, is that he is improving to become a nice guy. (If this is true doesn't matter, it’s the story he tells Juliet.) Juliet believes this story and expressed this to Erica. Juliet sees Erica as competition but also a friend. She tells Erica (scene 2017), “…you’re a good person “. So there is leverage potentially through Juliet.

Erica can play referee to Ruffo’s behavior. She can offer Ruffo what he wants most, being seen as better, but only if he acts better with Erica as witness and referee and importantly when under pressure.
Kaori can then use soft power “If you want to spend time together, then learn restraint.” She can also use subtle cues in public as to Ruffo’s behavior. She can praise him when he’s good and ignore or be annoyed when he isn’t. The under pressure part is important for this to be real.

This fits her pattern so far. And this creates triangulation tension. Erica’s intimacy with Ruffo is not just affair heat, it becomes loaded with self-improvement and harm reduction to others.

The three pressures in this are Erica’s rationalization, Juliet's trust, and Ruffo’s fear that Erica can define his story to Juliet and others.

Erica might be able to control Ruffo through her, control of access to herself, her influence on Juliet’s view of Ruffo, and Erica’s position as public witness.

In a scene, this could play out as Erica meeting Juliet for lunch, and discussing a recent event with Ruffo. Erica could carefully but honestly tell Juliet what she saw. Ruffo would then hear about and come to Erica not because he cares about the facts, but he cares about the narrative.

Or in a scene, Ruffo is acting inappropriately and Erica could say “After you acted like that, I don’t think I can look Juliet in the eye again.” If Ruffo bullies Ed, Erica would say “if you treat my family that way, then you’ll treat me that way too.”

If this becomes puppeteering then it doesn’t work. Erica can’t directly tell Ruffo what to do to get something.

Would be funny if she were to like tease having any bit of sexual advance with him only to toy with him more. Like making him think he has a chance to get a handjob or something all for Erica to say that she's telling Juliet he's trying to cheat on her or something. Would be a fun dynamic if Juliet and Erica become besties through their shared experiences while Ed and Ruffy form some sort of bond together through them.

 

[zeezlynx]

time to update the tags, rip my man diego, he had a good run

 

[Oddyy]

Hey bro I'm curious why do you seek or watch nts in the first place what turns you on just want to know and compare our reasons if you are ok with sharing it with me cause we both are the pollar opposites

Of course man. It's just the fact I think my girl is insanely gorgeous and sharing her would be hot to me. Big dicks don't matter nor to the other cuck stuff. I'm into compersion and just watching her have a good time with someone else and then crawl back to me after a fun time would be so hot. Also super into exhibitionism too which would just a cherry on top. I just get turned on by other guys thinking my girl is as hot as I think she is.

I find loyalty sexy as fuck so having our love never waver either is a must. That's why i don't like NTR or any adjacent stuff. Plus, having agency in decisions is also a must but that is so hard to find in any media. NTS games are always in the guise of a cuck or even worse, a yes man. Where they might not like it but say yes to it anyway because it turns their girl on. I'm just waiting for one game out there where the MC can just grow a pair and tell his girl she's gone too far. Now because it wouldn't be too crazy of a scenario to fit NTS theming, they could get back on track vs. a NTR one.

All is to say, I'm into the dynamics of just having my girl be more open with her body and being more confident in herself. If that takes the form of getting hit on by guys, flirting with other guys, doing stuff in front of me, or doing stuff away from me, that's find as long as our relationship and love never wavers. I'm just not into sub cuck stuff. It's just so cliche at this point. But there's also a lot more to love in NTS than just sex. Just flirting with other guys would be such a turn on. Getting free drinks from a guy at a bar because she acted single enough to get drinks from him and then bringing them over to our table to his dismay or something like that is so hot.

 

[Neonviolet]

Of course man. It's just the fact I think my girl is insanely gorgeous and sharing her would be hot to me. Big dicks don't matter nor to the other cuck stuff. I'm into compersion and just watching her have a good time with someone else and then crawl back to me after a fun time would be so hot. Also super into exhibitionism too which would just a cherry on top. I just get turned on by other guys thinking my girl is as hot as I think she is.

I find loyalty sexy as fuck so having our love never waver either is a must. That's why i don't like NTR or any adjacent stuff. Plus, having agency in decisions is also a must but that is so hard to find in any media. NTS games are always in the guise of a cuck or even worse, a yes man. Where they might not like it but say yes to it anyway because it turns their girl on. I'm just waiting for one game out there where the MC can just grow a pair and tell his girl she's gone too far. Now because it wouldn't be too crazy of a scenario to fit NTS theming, they could get back on track vs. a NTR one.

All is to say, I'm into the dynamics of just having my girl be more open with her body and being more confident in herself. If that takes the form of getting hit on by guys, flirting with other guys, doing stuff in front of me, or doing stuff away from me, that's find as long as our relationship and love never wavers. I'm just not into sub cuck stuff. It's just so cliche at this point. But there's also a lot more to love in NTS than just sex. Just flirting with other guys would be such a turn on. Getting free drinks from a guy at a bar because she acted single enough to get drinks from him and then bringing them over to our table to his dismay or something like that is so hot.

Wish i had a more healthy mind set like you I'm serious saying this sometimes like right now i had a breakdown and hate myself for the stuff i do for the stuff i like etc your a good human being my friend you never even insulted me and were always civil to me unlike a lot of other people and I'm sorry if i ever say anything to you that may sound bs and made you sad sorry bro i know how low i am sometimes at least at times like these i can atone a bit if i broke some hearts

 

[Ronny8888]

Here is how I think Erica can gain leverage over Ruffo:
Ruffo's self-image, the story he tells himself, is that he is improving to become a nice guy. (If this is true doesn't matter, it’s the story he tells Juliet.) Juliet believes this story and expressed this to Erica. Juliet sees Erica as competition but also a friend. She tells Erica (scene 2017), “…you’re a good person “. So there is leverage potentially through Juliet.

Erica can play referee to Ruffo’s behavior. She can offer Ruffo what he wants most, being seen as better, but only if he acts better with Erica as witness and referee and importantly when under pressure.
Kaori can then use soft power “If you want to spend time together, then learn restraint.” She can also use subtle cues in public as to Ruffo’s behavior. She can praise him when he’s good and ignore or be annoyed when he isn’t. The under pressure part is important for this to be real.

This fits her pattern so far. And this creates triangulation tension. Erica’s intimacy with Ruffo is not just affair heat, it becomes loaded with self-improvement and harm reduction to others.

The three pressures in this are Erica’s rationalization, Juliet's trust, and Ruffo’s fear that Erica can define his story to Juliet and others.

Erica might be able to control Ruffo through her, control of access to herself, her influence on Juliet’s view of Ruffo, and Erica’s position as public witness.

In a scene, this could play out as Erica meeting Juliet for lunch, and discussing a recent event with Ruffo. Erica could carefully but honestly tell Juliet what she saw. Ruffo would then hear about and come to Erica not because he cares about the facts, but he cares about the narrative.

Or in a scene, Ruffo is acting inappropriately and Erica could say “After you acted like that, I don’t think I can look Juliet in the eye again.” If Ruffo bullies Ed, Erica would say “if you treat my family that way, then you’ll treat me that way too.”

If this becomes puppeteering then it doesn’t work. Erica can’t directly tell Ruffo what to do to get something.

Let me give you a point: Ruffo noticed the wedding rings, he understood what was happening, he understood that MC is a weak cuckold, that if someone like Diego managed to get Erica, then he will be the dominator, these are the points with Ruffo, and someone like Erica can't handle a character like that, bullies are bad inside, they will never change, and if he now has that awareness, Ruffu is now a danger, because he can get things by being nice, or blackmail Ercia and ED for having gone to sleep with a student, now everything is Ruffo-dependent, that's why the writing will necessarily have to change, you can't make Ruffo, a boy who will lower himself to Erica, I repeat, more than one writing error was made, unless, the DEV, decided to turn the game into worse things, corruption, blackmail, etc. then, he would be contradicting himself. that if he wants to create NTR, I'm fine with that, but as of today, then, he should be honest with us, it's the title, it doesn't make sense anymore.

 

[Ronny8888]

Here is how I think Erica can gain leverage over Ruffo:
Ruffo's self-image, the story he tells himself, is that he is improving to become a nice guy. (If this is true doesn't matter, it’s the story he tells Juliet.) Juliet believes this story and expressed this to Erica. Juliet sees Erica as competition but also a friend. She tells Erica (scene 2017), “…you’re a good person “. So there is leverage potentially through Juliet.

Erica can play referee to Ruffo’s behavior. She can offer Ruffo what he wants most, being seen as better, but only if he acts better with Erica as witness and referee and importantly when under pressure.
Kaori can then use soft power “If you want to spend time together, then learn restraint.” She can also use subtle cues in public as to Ruffo’s behavior. She can praise him when he’s good and ignore or be annoyed when he isn’t. The under pressure part is important for this to be real.

This fits her pattern so far. And this creates triangulation tension. Erica’s intimacy with Ruffo is not just affair heat, it becomes loaded with self-improvement and harm reduction to others.

The three pressures in this are Erica’s rationalization, Juliet's trust, and Ruffo’s fear that Erica can define his story to Juliet and others.

Erica might be able to control Ruffo through her, control of access to herself, her influence on Juliet’s view of Ruffo, and Erica’s position as public witness.

In a scene, this could play out as Erica meeting Juliet for lunch, and discussing a recent event with Ruffo. Erica could carefully but honestly tell Juliet what she saw. Ruffo would then hear about and come to Erica not because he cares about the facts, but he cares about the narrative.

Or in a scene, Ruffo is acting inappropriately and Erica could say “After you acted like that, I don’t think I can look Juliet in the eye again.” If Ruffo bullies Ed, Erica would say “if you treat my family that way, then you’ll treat me that way too.”

If this becomes puppeteering then it doesn’t work. Erica can’t directly tell Ruffo what to do to get something.

Spoiler, you missed the fact that Ruffo has practically imposed himself as the new student at home, and you think that someone who behaves like that is afraid of Erica or Juliett,

 

[DarkDaemonX]

or blackmail Ercia and ED for having gone to sleep with a student

So what, Diego is an adult, and Erica is free to fuck him, she is not involved with his school, Ed wasn't involved in their sexual encounters, so that blackmail holds no weight, so unless it starts using NTR logic, where characters become stupid, Erica will just laugh at Ruffo for the attempt.

 

[Oddyy]

So what, Diego is an adult, and Erica is free to fuck him, she is not involved with his school, Ed wasn't involved in their sexual encounters, so that blackmail holds no weight, so unless it starts using NTR logic, where characters become stupid, Erica will just laugh at Ruffo for the attempt.

Well I think it’s more of the fact they don’t want other people knowing their special relationship with Diego. I mean it could end in a nothing burger where no one really cares lol you’re right. But it could also be that Ruffy would try to hold some sort of power over them saying how he’d make their relationship public. Who knows.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

Well I think it’s more of the fact they don’t want other people knowing their special relationship with Diego. I mean it could end in a nothing burger where no one really cares lol you’re right. But it could also be that Ruffy would try to hold some sort of power over them saying how he’d make their relationship public. Who knows.

Erica literally kissed Diego on school grounds in public, so I doubt they care

 

[Ronny8888]

Well I think it’s more of the fact they don’t want other people knowing their special relationship with Diego. I mean it could end in a nothing burger where no one really cares lol you’re right. But it could also be that Ruffy would try to hold some sort of power over them saying how he’d make their relationship public. Who knows.

You got the point perfectly, it's not about having sex with a student, but letting the whole school know that ED is a certified cuckold, who lets his wife fuck with others, a born loser, the game between Erica and Ed is personal and role-based, but if it then becomes public knowledge, in the context of ED's work, the situation becomes embarrassing, even for someone who loves being humiliated, but there's always a line, a humiliated cuckold that everyone in the workplace knows about, and denigrating even in terms of respect, imagine all his students who will no longer have respect for him, it's not sex anymore, it's a real loss of character in front of all his students, a luxury that a teacher can't afford, in fact Ed is always afraid when Erica and Dario go out and become boyfriend and girlfriend, because he knows that things will be a catastrophe, now, all this is in Ruffo's hands, and you want to tell me, that an asshole like that, becomes a boy with a heart, hahahahahahha

 

[Ronny8888]

Erica literally kissed Diego on school grounds in public, so I doubt they care

But they were hidden, and they were careful that no one was there, then, no one knew about Erica and ED as spouses, now Ruffo understood it from the wedding rings, it's different,

 

[DarkDaemonX]

But they were hidden, and they were careful that no one was there, then, no one knew about Erica and ED as spouses, now Ruffo understood it from the wedding rings, it's different,

Then he still needs proof, unless everyone just believes everything Ruffo says.

Diego and Erica go on dates though, and it's not like her marriage is a big secret, she just doesn't really care if someone that knows about her marriage sees them on a date, which would end up as a rumour too, but a rumour of Erica cheating instead, so if that's more acceptable, they can just spin Ruffo telling others into Erica just cheating, since Ruffo doesn't have proof otherwise.

This is why I said blackmail will require NTR logic to work.

 

[Oddyy]

Well either way, the dev said he doesn’t like blackmail so it’s more trying to find a way to fit Ruffy in the narrative without the blackmail trope it seems to be hinting towards. I hope Erica tames him or he’s just such an asshole even through his veneer of kindness that Erica wants nothing to do with him. ATP anything’s possible

 

[Oddyy]

Wish i had a more healthy mind set like you I'm serious saying this sometimes like right now i had a breakdown and hate myself for the stuff i do for the stuff i like etc your a good human being my friend you never even insulted me and were always civil to me unlike a lot of other people and I'm sorry if i ever say anything to you that may sound bs and made you sad sorry bro i know how low i am sometimes at least at times like these i can atone a bit if i broke some hearts

You just gotta realize that the vast amount of people consider harem games as vanilla. I mean they’re most vanilla game possible. Where the MC wins every girl and becomes a sex god. That’s not what NTS is even close to being in any scenario. It’s alright though! You can see it and you’ll work on it

 

[Ian1433]

all i need is andriod version

 

[Ronny8888]

Well either way, the dev said he doesn’t like blackmail so it’s more trying to find a way to fit Ruffy in the narrative without the blackmail trope it seems to be hinting towards. I hope Erica tames him or he’s just such an asshole even through his veneer of kindness that Erica wants nothing to do with him. ATP anything’s possible

and this is where DEV, in my opinion, found himself in trouble, now he has to make Ruffo a saint in one day, it makes no sense, now, by now, it would be more logical, to go on NTR with blackmail, you can't belittle a profile with just one click, he has to choose to change things, with Ruffo, so he is forced to make Erica the submissive, and Ed in any case is a happy cuckold, he doesn't care who fucks his wife, as long as he cums, on his perversion

 

[the_the]

Spoiler, you missed the fact that Ruffo has practically imposed himself as the new student at home, and you think that someone who behaves like that is afraid of Erica or Juliett,

Right, I'm aware of that. But I thought the dev said "no blackmail". I am going under the assumption the dev said in the thread above "no blackmail". Perhaps I am misattributing that. If I am then I fully agree that this will likely go the blackmail route which would be unfortunate because the story gets lame after that.

Also, I am assuming these characters are not one dimensional. I am assuming that Ruffo can change or at the least moderate his demons.

To be clear, I respect all the questions people are raising and the debate is welcomed.