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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Generally, I liked it a lot and have no issues with it overall, especially in the context of the story so far.

That said, I had only one quibble based solely on my own personal preferences: I'm a pretty big fan of all things NTR/NTS (sharing, swinging, cheating, corruption, etc.) and while I don't mind cuck content, I don't care much for the straight humiliation aspect of it. In Sai's case, maybe the extent to which he's into that was (intentionally or unintentionally) misrepresented, but he didn't seem like he was having a great time, and I didn't like that aspect much. Like, Ari leaving him hanging to help Vi with MC was great, and I'm sure he enjoyed *that* aspect of it, but Ari piling on the insults seemed a bit over the top (to me) based on what we know of their relationship to this point.

I mean, yeah, he got off in the end, but it almost seemed like mean for the sake of being mean. Some guys love that, and that's great. I'm not convinced Sai's one of them, and that was a bit uncomfortable ... but not enough to ruin the scene. :)
I also thought Sai humiliations were a bit much. I mean, I generally don't care that much about that kind of things if it fits the overall story, but MNG is soo careful about the ego of the MC, and in my eyes the game regularly sends the message to the player "it's a very sensitive subject warning". But somehow if it's your friend and not you, the game goes all out in a complete U turn. Weird.
That being said, if the author has some particular kinks they want to explore (like big dicks vs small peepee(actually average)), I think they should just do it. Very often, a story feels more natural and raw (thus enjoyable to me) if they don't try to cater to any crowd seeing things differently. Devs always do to some degree though, but it's generally better when it's kept to a minimum.
Yup, those were pretty much my thoughts, on the whole I enjoyed it, but the over-the-top taunting took away from the hotness. It'd be different if Sai was more into it, nervous but cheering them on. For me the sticking point was less Ari taunting and more MC kinda playing the role of a fuckboi getting sucked by a rando's gf, not his best friend's gf.

You bring up a good point fabulous, the juxtaposition between having little empathy for treating others badly and simultaneously having an mc/narration sensitive to slights against him, too much of that and it starts feeling like you're playing 'incel simulator 2000'.

For sure that's not the bulk of game now, this was just one small scene I would have written differently.
 

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So I'm curious after having a debate elsewhere - how did people feel about the final scene between mc, Vi, ari, and Sai? Were they pissed he was even there? or did it flow well, or what?
I'll be very honest here, I am not a fan of the Sharing, NTS, and even less NTR themes, in the first place.
I am, by definition, your very "usual" enjoyer of boring vanilla, harem and stepcest themes.

However, this scene and in retrospect all the ones leading to it from the previous chapters (Ari's teasing phone conversations with Eric, Sai opening up to him at the park, admitting that he was leaning into this role more and more, and so on...) have been carefully crafted to help us witness how Sai slowly gets to embrace this new kink of his.

He might not have fully realized it yet, but it is getting clear that he will get more and more gratification from the feelings of loss of control, shaming, and so on, that Ari imposes on him.

And at the same time, we can witness the opposite transformation of Eric, who at first is reluctant to "inflict" that to his friend, but is getting quite elated on the domination and claiming aspect of it all.

In this scene, neither of them truly embraces their feelings and desires, but we can sense that they are starting to trip on the other side of the fence, pushed by the very strong Ari-Vi duo.
To me, it acts as a pivot, where both of them get to come to the realization of what they want, deep down.

MNGF plays, before anything else, with the idea of corruption and embracing repressed or newly found desires and kinks.
I'm looking forward, as much as you are, to what the future holds for these characters.
 
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There's lots of other places to find your favourite cuck MC :)
And there are lots of other places to find your favorite Netori MC/Game :whistle: IMO, Dev should just have given Sai a big or similar sized cock to Eric. I agree with the points made by fabulous007 and sac812, I think Sai should have been more open and more visibly into it rather than being portrayed as if he is Kinda forced, that gave me bad vibes as well tbh.

I hope Dev uses this opportunity to give him redemption at some point. Sure, he can't compete with Eric's dick but he is a hunk and I'm sure he can throw Vi around and fuck her in positions Eric never could :devilish: After all, size isn't everything, a fact I hope the game will start to acknowledge some more going forward.
 

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I'll be very honest here, I am not a fan of the Sharing, NTS, and even less NTR themes, in the first place.
I am, by definition, your very "usual" enjoyer of boring vanilla, harem and stepcest themes.

However, this scene and in retrospect all the ones leading to it from the previous chapters (Ari's teasing phone conversations with Eric, Sai opening up to him at the park, admitting that he was leaning into this role more and more, and so on...) have been carefully crafted to help us witness how Sai slowly gets to embrace this new kink of his.

He might not have fully realized it yet, but it is getting clear that he will get more and more gratification from the feelings of loss of control, shaming, and so on, that Ari imposes on him.

And at the same time, we can witness the opposite transformation of Eric, who at first is reluctant to "inflict" that to his friend, but is getting quite elated on the domination and claiming aspect of it all.

In this scene, neither of them truly embraces their feelings and desires, but we can sense that they are starting to trip on the other side of the fence, pushed by the very strong Ari-Vi duo.
To me, it acts as a pivot, where both of them get to come to the realization of what they want, deep down.

MNGF plays, before anything else, with the idea of corruption and embracing repressed or newly found desires and kinks.
I'm looking forward, as much as you are, to what the future holds for these characters.
Appreciate the perspective from someone on the vanilla side of the fence.

Maybe it's my own bias, I can't imagine anyone enjoying the position Sai is in. Do agree 100% Ari and Vi are the ones running the show in that scene - probably where my resentment or comments about eric coming off as weak rise from; I expected him to be more of a presence than a stuntcock, but I suppose that makes sense in the broader story of him being 'corrupted'.
 
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And there are lots of other places to find your favorite Netori MC/Game :whistle: IMO, Dev should just have given Sai a big or similar sized cock to Eric. I agree with the points made by fabulous007 and sac812, I think Sai should have been more open and more visibly into it rather than being portrayed as if he is Kinda forced, that gave me bad vibes as well tbh.

I hope Dev uses this opportunity to give him redemption at some point. Sure, he can't compete with Eric's dick but he is a hunk and I'm sure he can throw Vi around and fuck her in positions Eric never could :devilish: After all, size isn't everything, a fact I hope the game will start to acknowledge some more going forward.
Is he a hunk? Of the two women I know who have played this game one thought he looked like an egg and the other thought he looked 40+... but I digress. Sai has been falling into this role for a long time now, ever since chapter 1 in fact. That's not to say there won't be anything that ever happens between him and Vi, I certainly am not privy to every idea that passes CG's mind, but I would not bet on him ever outperforming Eric, it's simply not the dynamic at play.

All of this was part of a consistent narrative thread starting in chapter 1.

That being the case, I do think it'd be great if Eric and Sai had a sit down talk and were able to both apologize a bit for how shit went down at the club (Sai doing shit with Vi behind Eric's back, Sai getting treated poorly in the alleyway) and Sai admit to his own craving for being cuckolded. Because that's where this has been heading for a long time.

Don't worry about the vibes, I'm sure Sai will become more and more comfortable with it, but acknowledging a new kink like that can not be easy I'd imagine.
 

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Is he a hunk? Of the two women I know who have played this game one thought he looked like an egg and the other thought he looked 40+...
I mean doesn't he practically live in the gym?? I was referring mostly to his size/strength when I used to word "hunk", not that he is necessarily more attractive...

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Compared to Eric, he is a leap above for sure. Can't really imagine Eric being able to carry Vi for any sexual position involving that, while I'm sure Sai would be more than able to rail her against a wall or bend her like a pretzel to get maximum reach with his average sized dick :devilish: Probably would be able to choke her more firmly too....

Sure, I doubt he will be able to do a standing full-nelson with her(I'd leave that to giants like Rob or Sam :devilish:).

I hope we continue to get a more evenly distributed sharing friendship and it isn't just him fapping in the corner most of the time. He did get a lot of extramarital action with VI before the alley scene(Dance and HJ assist), so I guess it's fair he only got to watch in the end. I hope dev continues this path of fair sharing.
 
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Maybe it's my own bias, I can't imagine anyone enjoying the position Sai is in.
Honestly it's not that rare for guys to enjoy that, it's just S/M content. Personally my problem was just what you noted from my comment: the contrast with how veeery careful the narration is for MC. I had the impression MC was kind of inconsiderate toward his best friend. Considering how MC feels himself (his values) he accepted quickly that Sai was a bit of a maso and that he should be humiliated. But I wouldn't mind, for example, a mc presented as a dick who would do that in a netori game, it would be consistent.
Well I think I criticized that part enough lol, it's a fun game.
But just to finish, I'd add that I think a scene like this would have been great
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Girls casually exchanging dicks and having fun :cool: (glorious manga btw)
 
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Honestly it's not that rare for guys to enjoy that, it's just S/M content. Personally my problem was just what you noted from my comment: the contrast with how veeery careful the narration is for MC. I had the impression MC was kind of inconsiderate toward his best friend. Considering how MC feels himself (his values) he accepted quickly that Sai was a bit of a maso and that he should be humiliated. But I wouldn't mind, for example, a mc presented as a dick who would do that in a netori game, it would be consistent.
Well I think I criticized that part enough lol, it's a fun game.
But just to finish, I'd add that I think a scene like this would have been great
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I'm still honestly confused how people found Eric all that inconsiderate. He didn't argue the point, but it was Sai in fact who did things behind his back, not the other way around, if we're talking about who was inconsiderate. Eric also warned Sai about catching feelings for Ari and how that might hurt him, and even then he clearly felt bad at multiple points in the scene. But you're a drunk guy in your early 20's who's been mercilessly teased and blue balled all day. I find the moral platitudes unconvincing and I don't believe anyone who says they would have been the guy to absolutely demand Sai get some or it goes no further, I'm sorry.

Again, Eric will likely apologize because that's the kind of guy he is, but he didnt' really do anything wrong, just so we're clear.

Vi is considerate with his feelings because she cares about him, Ari is not considerate with Sai's feelings because she does not particularly care about him. This has been again pretty clear since chapter 1, some might feel bad for Sai but the game was always set to explore various themes and kinks, and Eric and Sai were never meant to tread the same path.

That doesn't mean there won't be room for equitable sharing in the game, whether with Sai (perhaps less likely) or somebody else. There are characters that still have yet to appear (as you'll all see next chapter) and characters who have appeared have not all been fully explored.
 

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I'm still honestly confused how people found Eric all that inconsiderate. He didn't argue the point, but it was Sai in fact who did things behind his back, not the other way around, if we're talking about who was inconsiderate.
I know you already know my feelings on this but cmon, these things aren't even in the same ballpark, not even the same sport :LOL:

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I know you already know my feelings on this but cmon, these things aren't even in the same ballpark, not even the same sport :LOL:

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Hahaha, yes and we can agree to disagree on this. I do think the order of operations matters but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. If somebody groped and spanked my girlfriend without asking, if they want me to forgive them it's going to take more than a grope of my own :p . Obviously as the real world isn't porn, it wouldn't be a double bj either... but I'd want something more substantial as recompense to make amends even if we were opening our relationship (Sai does not know this yet).

At the end of the day, it's porn and I think it's not worth over psycho-analysing. I think the internal logic was consistent enough, but for those who don't hopefully at the very least they found it hot.

(I got quite the laugh out of the meme though, so thank you for that)
 

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some might feel bad for Sai but the game was always set to explore various themes and kinks, and Eric and Sai were never meant to tread the same path.
Ok, I get that and I like variety of kinks myself. Deep down, it's really just the contrast with the constant dialogues reassuring the MC so far that made me think it's weird in comparison. Not Sai's role itself, and not even MC being (from my point of view during the scene) a little inconsiderate (but you're right that many others would have done the same). It's just something I felt with the narration, purely.
Ari is not considerate with Sai's feelings because she does not particularly care about him.
Oh really ? I actually thought she just wanted a guy like that. I hope they'll stay together (but don't answer to that of course), I actually like that couple.
 
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