VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch.5 v3] [CircleGames]

[swiver]

Long, but really interesting post.

Cool preface... sorry, I am of a long wind, I suppose.

IMHO the MC is not a sadistic boyfriend but a man with a fantasy.

No, he isn't sadistic as in hateful, vindictive of the sense I mean here (though certainly sadistic, the sexual preference, in enjoying dishing pain and being submitted to etc.). But I disagree, kind of, on him having a fantasy, I think it's more he's developing it, partially under influence, both direct (active encouragement) and indirect (he's sensing tendencies in his girl, and he's somehow enjoying them).

I think every man in his life had or have the fantasy to see his fiancee or wife taking a stranger cock.
Who likes to expose her wife or gf has this kink, too.

Well, I don't know about that...

I don't agree that her having ANY previous experience is NTR either way

No, not either way. But that felt like something threatening, and I think even was written with a hint of it I think. Young person, early GF, hard in love ("the one" type stuff) and then the creeping "have they said/done/felt this before?". It's a common enough issue in relationships and across genders. It is not NTR, to be sure. But in the wider sense we've come to use the term to denote the fetishization of these types of insecurities/suspicions involving the love-interest enjoying/preferring others.... like, I'm saying if they add a bit more in that direction, including the feel of rising doubts and nightmarish discoveries, and you're immmersed enough, you might get that stomache-turning feeling which some NTR-tropes are all about.

But yea, Vi definitely is the primary instigator but not only does Eric love it, but she pushes him to punish her because she wants him to be a part of the whole cycle and not just a spectator to it.

I would go so far as to say, if we liberate our perspective from the expectation/bias of knowing the genre, this VN could be seen as a rather straightforward corruption story. And MC is the one being corrupted.

I don't think all sadism = losing respect though, BDSM involves sadism but the sadist can still love the masochist. From what I've gleaned from past conversations months ago there will be some growing sadism on Eric's part, but I don't think any of that will be sadism outside of the bedroom. In other words, it would be sadism connected to kink, not sadism connected to any actual change in how he sees Vi.

Surely I meant these not as synonyms but different scenarios. So, yes, what I mean is that he isn't just a dom kinkster (yet), nor a more extreme just-a-dom that doesn't do GF/BF stuff really, and certainly not the more mainstream meaning of antisocial etc. where she's just a victim.

I agree, they are having him discover his enjoyment of gagging, slapping, etc. Part of the brilliance here, it takes you back to when you discovered this stuff.

wait Is that what I'm liking here?
Is this just a coming-of-age, nostalgia trip and our favourite filthy smut turns out to be wholesome?
... there shrinks the id

 

[TERES]

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[idkmanerally]

has the dev given an estimate for release? just wanna know when to start getting my hopes up

 

[SymbioticLife]

has the dev given an estimate for release? just wanna know when to start getting my hopes up

He has given no release date, considering he did the comic after last release then had some PC issues I doubt it's this year. But who knows. Ultimately as with most creative endeavours dev time can vary a lot.

 

[DovahKing111]

After playing the game, in many moments there is a feeling that the dev in text leaves himself a reserve for the future in terms of making the game not kinetic, but inserting a choice into it.
"You're pretty sure you won't be jealous, etc." to which MC always replies that "come on, tease me harder, i like it".

I'm not a fan of NTS, i don't like it at all, but i don't tell the dev how to make his game, it's just my opinion and he wrote on the front page that while there is no choice in the game, and it is purely NTS - the keyword FOR A WHILE! If the dev adds a choice to the game after completing the NTS ending, it will be a big plus, the choice can attract a lot of people to this game!
For example, at the moment when Vi invite MC to the mall and Maki offers him to take a photo of her bare breasts in exchange for that he will not go with Vi, the paths can opens here:
- to refuse the offer of Maki: vanilla-love path
and here, depending on the choice, invite Sai to the "show" with you in several pahts:
- let Sai watсh(or not at all) a little time and then banish him away: vanilla path
- Sai watсh for a long time and takes a photo: NTS path
- Sai can do "too much more": cucold path
- agree and stay with Maki: NTR path for Vi, because she will meet Sai in the mall and give him a "private show", about which MC will find out or suspect on "Instafup".

I emphasize once again that this is just my subjective opinion, i'm not trying to influence the development of the game, but adding different paths would make the game cooler and more interesting!

As i already wrote, NTS is not mine, and when a seemingly "good girl" turns into a turbo-slut in front of everyone's eyes, it becomes not interesting.

yup i stopped when Anya starts having thoughts of turning into a slut from being a innocent girl, overnight. so everyone around you is just gonna turn into a deviant slut that wants to bang everyone? lame and boring cuck logic. i tried to give it a chance to see if some girls would be off limits to other dudes and be exclusive to the player, especially those related to the mc, but no, doesn't appear to be heading in that direction....also think they missed an opportunity with Violet with a romance, love path....but the dev needs to corrupt them ALL.....

....she starts out as the sweet, innocent archetype girl and she constantly says things like "i can stop if you don't like it" or "i don't want to upset you. never." and at least many times she always wants to double check with the mc if something is ok for her to do but the player has no control or choice or say in anything so....which makes the game boring as well because it makes the mc feel like he is just blowing in the wind being passive about everything. what kind of man would want his mom hanging around a nefarious slut like sonia who parades your moms ass around town for all the men to see?? and the mc just says "as long as she's happy" lmao, completely fucking useless mc. and i'm sure that is only the introduction of your mom becoming a whore in this game.....the game needs choices badly and split paths love or NTR paths for the girls as some of the girls were actual good girls and it's silly/ridiculous they turn into insatiable sluts....had a lot of potential because of the art and the girls are hot but i'm tapping out of this one..

 

[Deleted member 1364951]

While i always support the freedom of speech, i simply can't understand people who are complaining about NTS game in a NTS game. I mean you can complain about writing, art style etc but complaining about NTS while dev uses the word NTS 3 times even in the description is nonsense to me. Like what were you expecting?

For keeping some characters exclusive stuff, i think i can agree with that. I think dev is playing it too safe to not to piss off fans of specific characters. It is clear all LIs will get NTSed and it is also clear MC will sleep with all of them. None will stay in pure NTS or love path. Anya could stay entirely exclusive to MC while Maki is entirely NTS or vice versa. But it is clear that is not happening. Dev knows if Anya followed love route there would be people who complain about absence of NTS for her and reverse for sole NTS LIs. I think to create a good story you can't give everyone everything, since it makes the game shallow.

This choice of direction makes a linear game even more linear to me, but judging by the number of patreons it definitely paid off for the dev.

One last thing. There are devs who frequently visit this forum and there are ones who don't care about it. This one is the second type. So don't expect anything to change.

 

[CircleGames]

One last thing. There are devs who frequently visit this forum and there are ones who don't care about it. This one is the second type. So don't expect anything to change.

That's not true xD

 

[mistolin]

That's not true xD

omg hiii

 

[CircleGames]

omg hiii

Hi friend

 

[palmtrees89]

I think to create a good story you can't give everyone everything, since it makes the game shallow.

This choice of direction makes a linear game even more linear to me, but judging by the number of patreons it definitely paid off for the dev.

So you're basically saying the dev is trying to give everyone everything, and in the very next sentence you say it's too linear.

Uhh.. logic checks out.

It's a kinetic NTS novel, so yeah it is linear in that sense but CG is certainly not trying to make everyone happy. He's been, so far, creating the game he wants to create. If people enjoy it, cool. If not, also cool. I mean, the game's pretty straight forward since the very beginning, and CG didn't start with 1000 patrons by default.

I feel like the issue people here are having is that they sign up for a game that simply isn't made for them. A kinetic novel with NTS/NTR elements. What it comes down to, imo, is as simple as awesome AI art drawing people towards a game that's just not for them. I don't think there's any rocket science behind this. lol

 

[Klaus Serpens]

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VI's face looks so innocent hahaha in a good way

 

[Sossse]

here´s me just hopeing (copeing) that eric get´s to have fun with anya and his mother BEFORE they get sluttified

 

[Deleted member 1364951]

That's not true xD

Which part is not true? The part i have said people should expect NTS because it is literally in tags?

Or the part where i assume MC will have sex with every single LI and they will all get NTSed? We will see this, and you hold the power over the story. But i guess everyone can see it happening.

Or the part where i said dev barely visits the forum? I think that was a good assumption too since your last comment was on November 14th, three weeks ago.

 

[palmtrees89]

Yes by giving everything everyone you make an incredibly linear story. I already gave an example, Let’s just say you want Anya get NTSed and I want to see them together. If Anya gets both love making scene and NTS scene, we both get what we want in exchange of a story. Because every single character following the same path is boring.

I already said people should be expecting NTS, my point just like others said there is no exclusivity. Not for NTS or for love path.

Edit: Removed cause not worth a threadban. Enjoy your discussions. lol

What you want are different routes, which this is a kinetic novel and as such you just have to ride the train or jump off.

 

[tallman102]

VI's face looks so innocent hahaha in a good way

Yeah,

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[NTRtexts]

I think complaining is a kink/fetish all of itself. It's either people who consumed too much of the media, want the attention or know some people enjoy being called "sick for enjoying NTR/NTS" just like themselves. It's like a weird public service.
EDIT: also, I love that there are no choices. If I like the creator's vision, this way I get more of it faster.

 

[kikomascado]

I don't go on threads of games I don't like to complain about its main themes, but I guess it's not everyone that have the common sense to do so...

 

[ItsNotUs]

yup i stopped when Anya starts having thoughts of turning into a slut from being a innocent girl, overnight. so everyone around you is just gonna turn into a deviant slut that wants to bang everyone? lame and boring cuck logic. i tried to give it a chance to see if some girls would be off limits to other dudes and be exclusive to the player, especially those related to the mc, but no, doesn't appear to be heading in that direction....also think they missed an opportunity with Violet with a romance, love path....but the dev needs to corrupt them ALL.....

....she starts out as the sweet, innocent archetype girl and she constantly says things like "i can stop if you don't like it" or "i don't want to upset you. never." and at least many times she always wants to double check with the mc if something is ok for her to do but the player has no control or choice or say in anything so....which makes the game boring as well because it makes the mc feel like he is just blowing in the wind being passive about everything. what kind of man would want his mom hanging around a nefarious slut like sonia who parades your moms ass around town for all the men to see?? and the mc just says "as long as she's happy" lmao, completely fucking useless mc. and i'm sure that is only the introduction of your mom becoming a whore in this game.....the game needs choices badly and split paths love or NTR paths for the girls as some of the girls were actual good girls and it's silly/ridiculous they turn into insatiable sluts....had a lot of potential because of the art and the girls are hot but i'm tapping out of this one..

I agree with you on almost everything, i wrote that post without finishing the possible content. I liked that Vi teases MC a lot, but didn't cross the line:
- "I even sent those naughty photos to the photographer"
MC heart is beating, he is stunned, then Vi:
- "I was joking, i love teasing you, these photos just for you!"

But Maki take the phone and writes to Vi to send those photos and any other depraved one she wants, it immediately kills interest!
MC thinks that he is deciding something, that he has control over the situation, but in reality everyone decides for him and he’s like that! Lol
Yes, i understand that this is NTS, that’s why i wrote a post about the choice, because the game at first, no matter what is NTS AI, looks good, but at the end of the last update "you" just stop wanting to play it, especially then Anya, after seeing a black dick, immediately turned into a horny slut, although all her life before, she had been a modest, sweet girl!

I concluded for myself that i will not play it for now and if someday the dev adds different paths and choices i'll give it another chance, because it's a shame, it could have turned out to be a really interesting project, but this is just a project for fans of quick corruption and weak MC.
Ok this is their choice, I made my own and i advise to you do the same!

 

[Blades1138]

MC thinks that he is deciding something, that he has control over the situation, but in reality everyone decides for him and he’s like that! Lol

I skipped like half the dialogue, but that's still exactly how I felt about the MC. Even the images are enough to convey this.
NTS isn't really my thing, but I thought it would at least be a proactive choice by the MC and make for an interesting story.
The art and a few hot scenes make up for it so far, but I doubt the intention of the dev was for people to skip the story just to see the good bits.

 

[Dercuillo]

Ok this is their choice, I made my own and i advise to you do the same!

That's the way to go! This kind of AI CG stuff can be fork for an unlimited number of scenario! Shadow of Ambition is the perfect exemple, once you have learned how the AI generation work, the scripting structure can be a copycat of any project and the only important thing left is the writing!