VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch. 5] [CircleGames]

[BangB420]

am i crazy, or did this game used to have choices? i think remember being able to select certain dialogue options before, albeit few and far between

yes you crazy, there was never any dialogue options, this was always a kinetic novel

 

[ItsNotUs]

I really don't want to get into another argument with you, but you clearly don't read what I write to you. I said there are similarities, but you always go about how this is just blatantly copying Melkor which from my pictures, you can see that it is not. I also never claimed to be an artist.

Not bluntly! I'm not saying about copying - i said that no one is saying thank to the original artist, but the visual of the project is so praised by them!
And why hide i also like the visuals and the visual of you project too, although i haven’t played it!
I understand the basis of how AI works, you can choose many options, but it is Melkor’s hand that is most visible in such a style!

 

[Firaxius]

I really don't want to get into another argument with you, but you clearly don't read what I write to you. I said there are similarities, but you always go about how this is just blatantly copying Melkor which from my pictures, you can see that it is not. I also never claimed to be an artist.

That why I mostly stop after 2 replies to such guys, as it only keep escalating. I like yours and this guys work and support ya both, people that dislike it well, they probably have a boring life if want to lead it to arguments. Anyway looking forward to future updates of both games.

My advice stay, if dislike the game then don't play it and just seek a game that you like and don't discredit it constant, one time is often enough to say your opinion.

 

[blubbervink]

There is no problem here, i agree that a little more work needs to be done.
I'm not suggesting, but - the text base is settled in the same way as in many similar projects, just in the NO option - the VI is removed and only Ari remains and etc!
This is the easiest way to make a choice, that’s all!

Using the example of the "MoonR." - MC and his girlfreand go for a booz for party, whether in a bar or on the street with homeless man, there are options to choose from, they affect what happens in these scenes, but they do not affect future content since the base is the same!


A simple choice of YES NO will not hard affect the development time, but need to work on some scenes, also change some texts - it’s not difficult - it’s like working with layers - you have a base and the layers can be hidden making the scene varied!

Ah yes. A game where you have a semi limited free roam. Yes in that game it can work since it can create situations outside of the linear path.

In this game its different.
But lets take a different approach and include your take.
Lets take the end of the current update.
They get caught by the bouncer and they have to get out of the situation.

You can have the option to have Vi flirt with him or something or try to talk your way out.

Depending on how long you want that scene to be, thats 2 different scenes, with different art needed, with different dialogue.
It can be done, yes, but creates more work. And if you want to give the "illusion" of choice its best to have around 2 per update.

Here is the thing, even if you only have 1 choice the next update. 'Flirt' or 'talk', if you do not want the choice to have affect on thr game later you can bring both diverging paths back tougether right after the scene of your choice. But then the choice doesnt matter. Nothing will be gained. In both situations you will end with the same result, getting out of trouble, but the defining moment of the choice, Vi flirting or a smooth talking MC, will never be mentioned again.
Because you would need to write specific dialogue later on to reflect the scene and you get into the problem i already mentioned.

It would be an "illusion" of a choice. You can argue if its better or not. I wouldnt care and prefer the dev to continue the writing as they are doing now.

Its like having options in dialogue responses to an NPC, four options to say something different wich all lead to the same result. Like fallout.

Not saying you are wrong. But again. It wouldnt give much benefit, in my opinion atleast.

Then again. You can decide for yourself what happens or not. That is be a valid argument wich makes me say it would be better to have choices, yes.

Personally im happy the way the story is going and dont need to have choices.

TLDR: small choices, sure, can be done. But shouldnt have any impact on the story or it will eat development time.

 

[TheSilverSaint]

My acquaintance with the game was from version 0.4, 0.5 i have not played and will not.

why are you even here then?

 

[ItsNotUs]

why are you even here then?

Why don’t you read what i wrote?

 

[alex220477]

Ah yes. A game where you have a semi limited free roam. Yes in that game it can work since it can create situations outside of the linear path.

In this game its different.
But lets take a different approach and include your take.
Lets take the end of the current update.
They get caught by the bouncer and they have to get out of the situation.

You can have the option to have Vi flirt with him or something or try to talk your way out.

Depending on how long you want that scene to be, thats 2 different scenes, with different art needed, with different dialogue.
It can be done, yes, but creates more work. And if you want to give the "illusion" of choice its best to have around 2 per update.

Here is the thing, even if you only have 1 choice the next update. 'Flirt' or 'talk', if you do not want the choice to have affect on thr game later you can bring both diverging paths back tougether right after the scene of your choice. But then the choice doesnt matter. Nothing will be gained. In both situations you will end with the same result, getting out of trouble, but the defining moment of the choice, Vi flirting or a smooth talking MC, will never be mentioned again.
Because you would need to write specific dialogue later on to reflect the scene and you get into the problem i already mentioned.

It would be an "illusion" of a choice. You can argue if its better or not. I wouldnt care and prefer the dev to continue the writing as they are doing now.

Its like having options in dialogue responses to an NPC, four options to say something different wich all lead to the same result. Like fallout.

Not saying you are wrong. But again. It wouldnt give much benefit, in my opinion atleast.

Then again. You can decide for yourself what happens or not. That is be a valid argument wich makes me say it would be better to have choices, yes.

Personally im happy the way the story is going and dont need to have choices.

TLDR: small choices, sure, can be done. But shouldnt have any impact on the story or it will eat development time.

everything you wrote makes no sense, in this kinetic comic, there is nothing alternative, except the will of the DEV of what he has programmed, we are only spectators, that's why your intervention is useless, mine is too, but it was too funny not to answer you, hahahah

 

[Firaxius]

Not bluntly! I'm not saying about copying - i said that no one is saying thank to the original artist, but the visual of the project is so praised by them!
And why hide i also like the visuals and the visual of you project too, although i haven’t played it!
I understand the basis of how AI works, you can choose many options, but it is Melkor’s hand that is most visible in such a style!

You do know, that Melkor is kinda also a copycat then, I seen simular drawing long before Melkor even drawed some, eventualy every painter and draw artist start somewhere and eventualy bring their own touches to it, that what Melkor also did once. And not long ago a guy got trouble because their work looked simular because people complained, but noone ever sued Melkor for doing the same.

 

[palmtrees89]

everything you wrote makes no sense, in this kinetic comic, there is nothing alternative, except the will of the DEV of what he has programmed, we are only spectators, that's why your intervention is useless, mine is too, but it was too funny not to answer you, hahahah

Clearly this is a language barrier and you just don't understand it, but what he said is a "what if" type of situation in response to the other guy who wants choices in the game.

 

[ItsNotUs]

You do know, that Melkor is kinda also a copycat then, I seen simular drawing long before Melkor even drawed some, eventualy every painter and draw artist start somewhere and eventualy bring their own touches to it, that what Melkor also did once. And not long ago a guy got trouble because their work looked simular because people complained, but noone ever sued Melkor for doing the same.

I haven't seen who you're talking about( if you mean the old artist who draw naked "amazons", barbarinas in a historical setting with dinosaurs, then i’m familiar with his work, years between him and Melkor are like father and son or even grandfather and grandson), but i understand that there are artist who like to borrow, or get inspired, part of the style, and i don’t dare anyone to sue anyone, AI can copy and in the future will be able to make perfect copies any style!

 

[champ5030]

I think he should do it the way he wants to do it. Trying to make a game over terms like 'Great market' and 'demand' is never going well. Changing the game in a way to please some people also won't go well. But you know what's going well? A developer continuing with his vision which hit the spot for so many people that the game is one of the most viewed on F95 in recent months while also attracting a ton of subscribers. My opinion? Let the guy cook!

Who said anything about him changing the game ? & Bro what do you mean by 'to please some people. I mean it's not like the dev makes the game for himself. He makes the game for the public and for the subscribers, so of course he has to 'please' people.

I also didn't suggest for him to change the game, I suggested to him to implement another closely related non ntr dom route instead of overhauling the entire thematic progression of the game. And I think that is fair considering a lot of people here are in favour of it and might even become subscribers if that happens.

 

[Chelsea:p]

Vi will follow a NTS route ( sharing, swing, exhibitionism )

Seeing this on the home page makes me feel much more at ease.

 

[Firaxius]

I haven't seen who you're talking about( if you mean the old artist who draw naked "amazons", barbarinasvin a historical setting with dinosaurs, then i’m familiar with his work, years between him and Melkor are like father and son or even grandfather and grandson), but i understand that there are artist who like to borrow or get inspired part of the style, and i don’t dare anyone to sue anyone, AI can copy and in the future will be able to make perfect copies any style!

The drawings I speak off were made in the 1960s and 70s, that time there was no internet like now, and I love Melkor Mancins work too, he got some great work, but it annoys me when people try point out other artists work to be copy of his, and yes AI creations can easy be copies of older artists works, but so long it not a direct exact copy, it still a different work. And using a simular style shouldn't be accused for, it what artists always did, famous painters teached other painters and those painted in same style as their master, it a common practice and slowly they bring their own touches to it.

 

[palmtrees89]

Who said anything about him changing the game ? & Bro what do you mean by 'to please some people. I mean it's not like the dev makes the game for himself. He makes the game for the public and for the subscribers, so ofc he has to 'please' people.
I didn't suggest for him to change the game, I suggested to him to implement another closely related route instead of overhauling the entire thematic progression of the game. And I think that is fair considering a lot of people here are in favour of it and might even become subscribers if that happens.

He would please some people with the downside being much longer development due to adding content he himself has not envisioned creating his game. You want an entirely new route added to the existing game, which is a kinetic novel. Had the developer wanted to work on such a route, he'd have done it. Hence why I said creating a game over terms like "Great market" and "demand" is never going well, because at that point he'd create a game just to possibly please some people instead of doing what he wants to do.

You want an alternative route for the game which would mean a shitton of extra work based on the possibility of more subscribers, and also the possibility of losing subscribers due to much slower development. You're suggesting turning the game from kinetic novel to choice based. Doing all that over an "if" or "maybe"? Read the posts from blubbervink above as to why that's a terrible idea this deep into the game.

Edit: Unless you're talking about introducing a new character with which the MC can go down this route, which I don't see how that'd play out? If you're talking about a seperate route involving Eric and Vi, well...I've already answered that.

Edit2: Maybe if you could elaborate on what exactly you mean by another non-ntr dom corruption route?

 

[ShikkokunoSharnoth]

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View attachment 4518717 Since you keep bringing up Melkor and how this is just blatantly copying his style. Maybe a side by side comparison will help your weary eyes. Are there similarities? Sure, but mainly with the shading and linework and even that has changed a lot compared to the first release of MNGF.

Really getting tired of dick riders bringing up this Melkor guy (feels like the "iS THis A JoJO REFerEncE?!") when there are clear differences. With MNG far superior, BTW.

 

[Sossse]

overall i rly enjoyed the update. it helped to put a bit more persona into some side characters and sparkles some light on several relationsships.
and that club scenes: you can say what you want about AI, but DMN do they look good. no question dev but a LOT of work into these.
rly the only think i have a problem with is the good old: anja seems to be the only girl in this game which is NOT a complete horndog (including vi), but actually has genuin feelings for eric and favors him... that is until she sees a BBC *sigh*, than she ofc instantly forgets eric exists and starts worshipping like a good white female slut

 

[Firaxius]

overall i rly enjoyed the update. it helped to put a bit more persona into some side characters and sparkles some light on several relationsships.
and that club scenes: you can say what you want about AI, but DMN do they look good. no question dev but a LOT of work into these.
rly the only think i have a problem with is the good old: anja seems to be the only girl in this game which is NOT a complete horndog (including vi), but actually has genuin feelings for eric and favors him... that is until she sees a BBC *sigh*, than she ofc instantly forgets eric exists and starts worshipping like a good white female slut

Well she didn't instantly forget him really, see she watched Rob and his step-mom going at it, and at home she used the toy she got with Ari, but the guy on her mind was her brother, Anya is maybe more on the shy side, but once her barriers broken she will be like Vi more. And yes Rob and his brother deserve some fun too and I think Eric wouldn't mind either aslong he can enjoy as well.

Also girls are just like guys, show guys tits and they will look, even if their gf is next them, so yes a girl will also look when a guy shows his cock even their bf is next them, it called curiosity, everyone has that.

 

[Sossse]

Also girls are just like guys, show guys tits and they will look, even if their gf is next them, so yes a girl will also look when a guy shows his cock even their bf is next them, it called curiosity, everyone has that.

fair point