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Ashoolar1989

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Apr 27, 2024
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The art looks very good, but NTR and NTS is a deal breaker for me. I'd be interested to come back to this game if there is implemented an option to turn off sharing/NTR or avoid those scenes via choices.
there no ntr in it what so ever the dev team been dead set on that
 

idkmanerally

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May 2, 2023
269
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The art looks very good, but NTR and NTS is a deal breaker for me. I'd be interested to come back to this game if there is implemented an option to turn off sharing/NTR or avoid those scenes via choices.
Man walks into pizza restaurant. "Hey everyone, just so you know, I don't like pizza. At all. I will not be dining at this pizza establishment."

Everyone claps! "Thanks for letting us know!"
 

hangmansjoke

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Apr 27, 2024
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chapter 1 - released on june 6
chapter 2 - released on july 1 (25 days after chapter 1)
chapter 3 - released on august 20 (50 days after chapter 2)
chapter 4 - released on october 24 (65 days after chapter 3)
today - 76 days after chapter 4

why does this happen to every fucking game lol. i know the dev said its because he's rendering multiple women into a sex scene and the AI struggles with that..... i hope the development isn't being slowed down for a lame harem-style threesome with the MC instead of something NTS/NTR related.....
 

kikomascado

Active Member
May 20, 2017
777
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chapter 1 - released on june 6
chapter 2 - released on july 1 (25 days after chapter 1)
chapter 3 - released on august 20 (50 days after chapter 2)
chapter 4 - released on october 24 (65 days after chapter 3)
today - 76 days after chapter 4

why does this happen to every fucking game lol. i know the dev said its because he's rendering multiple women into a sex scene and the AI struggles with that..... i hope the development isn't being slowed down for a lame harem-style threesome with the MC instead of something NTS/NTR related.....
The dev also did that one comic, and we had holidays, so it's expected that the next update would take longer. Looking forward to it, thought.
 

hangmansjoke

Newbie
Apr 27, 2024
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The dev also did that one comic, and we had holidays, so it's expected that the next update would take longer. Looking forward to it, thought.
i know, its just weird how every game it feels like releases get slower and slower. you'd think development patterns would solidify, devs would get in a groove, become more familiar and comfortable with their tools, etc. this dev even quit his day job to work on this game full time so you'd think there would be a burst of productivity but nope
 

SWTiger

Member
Mar 7, 2021
202
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chapter 1 - released on june 6
chapter 2 - released on july 1 (25 days after chapter 1)
chapter 3 - released on august 20 (50 days after chapter 2)
chapter 4 - released on october 24 (65 days after chapter 3)
today - 76 days after chapter 4

why does this happen to every fucking game lol. i know the dev said its because he's rendering multiple women into a sex scene and the AI struggles with that..... i hope the development isn't being slowed down for a lame harem-style threesome with the MC instead of something NTS/NTR related.....
This is exactly what I tried to explain in this thread before, but no one listened to me. About 80-90% of games (numbers according to my personal feelings) almost always slow down in the speed of release updates with each update. It is already a standard in this industry, so I absolutely do not understand people who believe and believed until the end that updates will always be released with the same regularity. And I was told that update should supposedly be released 5-6 weeks after release of Chapter 4, which is absolute nonsense! So where are we now?
I am not saying anything bad about CG, he had reasons for delay. People just believe in what they themselves came up with (timing of update releases) and then become disappointed in it. I just want to say that we shouldn't expect updates to be released regularly every 50 days, but rather release time will be gradually stretched out, sometimes becoming shorter, and sometimes and most often longer. It's just happens with almost every game and there is absolutely nothing to be surprised about
 

CircleGames

Member
Game Developer
Jul 9, 2018
183
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This is exactly what I tried to explain in this thread before, but no one listened to me. About 80-90% of games (numbers according to my personal feelings) almost always slow down in the speed of release updates with each update. It is already a standard in this industry, so I absolutely do not understand people who believe and believed until the end that updates will always be released with the same regularity. And I was told that update should supposedly be released 5-6 weeks after release of Chapter 4, which is absolute nonsense! So where are we now?
I am not saying anything bad about CG, he had reasons for delay. People just believe in what they themselves came up with (timing of update releases) and then become disappointed in it. I just want to say that we shouldn't expect updates to be released regularly every 50 days, but rather release time will be gradually stretched out, sometimes becoming shorter, and sometimes and most often longer. It's just happens with almost every game and there is absolutely nothing to be surprised about
I agree with you, in the sense that alot of people set their own expectations without any inside information on the development of each update, I don't know why...regarding the stretch of time between updates, it's not my goal to increase the time from update to update. You are right that it's the industry standart but I want to be different from that, or at least I try to be. One of the goals for Chapter 5 was to make a chapter smaller then Chapter4, and make a faster release. But I made some mistakes, it's getting closer and closer to Chapter 4 size and some scenes took a long of time and rework during playtest. Also, the holidays took a lot more time out of my schedule then I anticipated. But yeah I don't know why some devs do the things they do but I still have a lot of passion for the project, releasing a new update and seeing the feedback, the discussions, the fan theories, favorite new scenes,etc...I love all of that, I really do! Thank you guys, for keeping the hype and the love for the project! Makes me super hyped as well
 

palmtrees89

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Jul 3, 2021
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chapter 1 - released on june 6
chapter 2 - released on july 1 (25 days after chapter 1)
chapter 3 - released on august 20 (50 days after chapter 2)
chapter 4 - released on october 24 (65 days after chapter 3)
today - 76 days after chapter 4

why does this happen to every fucking game lol. i know the dev said its because he's rendering multiple women into a sex scene and the AI struggles with that..... i hope the development isn't being slowed down for a lame harem-style threesome with the MC instead of something NTS/NTR related.....
And now take into consideration the amount of images and dialogue per chapter. Then come back and say "Sorry, I didn't think this through.".
 

rob_trowy_97

Newbie
Jul 14, 2023
26
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And now take into consideration the amount of images and dialogue per chapter. Then come back and say "Sorry, I didn't think this through.".
But I made some mistakes, it's getting closer and closer to Chapter 4 size
Lol, you basically was owned by the dev.
PS: I’m not implying that CG is bad or lazy—it’s just the reality of how things usually go. Almost all projects tend to slow down over time, even when the developers are working on them full-time. There are plenty of valid reasons for this, but it doesn’t change the fact itself.
 

SWTiger

Member
Mar 7, 2021
202
292
I agree with you, in the sense that alot of people set their own expectations without any inside information on the development of each update, I don't know why...regarding the stretch of time between updates, it's not my goal to increase the time from update to update. You are right that it's the industry standart but I want to be different from that, or at least I try to be. One of the goals for Chapter 5 was to make a chapter smaller then Chapter4, and make a faster release. But I made some mistakes, it's getting closer and closer to Chapter 4 size and some scenes took a long of time and rework during playtest. Also, the holidays took a lot more time out of my schedule then I anticipated. But yeah I don't know why some devs do the things they do but I still have a lot of passion for the project, releasing a new update and seeing the feedback, the discussions, the fan theories, favorite new scenes,etc...I love all of that, I really do! Thank you guys, for keeping the hype and the love for the project! Makes me super hyped as well
Take as much time as you need, I think many others and me too are more concerned with quality over quantity (and I know it's very important to you too). It's rare to meet a developer who is really passionate about project and always tries to be in touch. This is already worth a lot ;)
 

palmtrees89

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Jul 3, 2021
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Lol, you basically was owned by the dev.
PS: I’m not implying that CG is bad or lazy—it’s just the reality of how things usually go. Almost all projects tend to slow down over time, even when the developers are working on them full-time. There are plenty of valid reasons for this, but it doesn’t change the fact itself.
How is him making a mistake related to every chapter being bigger than the one prior, thus taking longer in terms of development time? "Slower" is simply the wrong term to describe what's happening, which is why I said what I said. It was also mentioned by other users that holiday season hits pretty much everyone, hence why this chapter is actually behind. Didn't know I had to explain it in detail for people to understand, but oh well.

Fact is, if you take into consideration the amount of images and content in combination with time spent per release, he's gotten faster with every chapter (aka renders/day). That especially holds true with Chapter 04's release compared to anything prior.

"Owned", by the way. Duh..
 
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rob_trowy_97

Newbie
Jul 14, 2023
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Fact is, if you take into consideration the amount of images and content in combination with time spent per release, he's gotten faster with every chapter (aka renders/day). That especially holds true with Chapter 04's release compared to anything prior.

"Owned", by the way. Duh..
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Toxic positivity is just as bad as toxic negativity, if not worse. I can understand people supporting the good work, but at the end of the day devs are producing these games for money so blatantly lying to just to defend someone else's business makes one look funny. Just a thought.
 

SymbioticLife

Member
Mar 17, 2019
317
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why does this happen to every fucking game lol. i know the dev said its because he's rendering multiple women into a sex scene and the AI struggles with that..... i hope the development isn't being slowed down for a lame harem-style threesome with the MC instead of something NTS/NTR related.....
I dunno, it being pretty much the most popular NTS game by subs shows quite a few people seem interested in the MC getting involved, given it's been that way since the very start. Don't worry I'm sure there will be tons of NTS content too. Ultimately, it is a multi genre game. The main genre being NTS doesn't mean there aren't other things going on, incest has been in the tags since day one (for the stepcest) and there's never been a question about the MC getting involved.

That BTW doesn't make it a harem game. Harem is not = to getting laid, considering harem implies a level of control and exclusivity I doubt the MC will ever have.
 
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Griev

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Game Developer
Dec 7, 2021
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I dunno, it being pretty much the most popular NTS game by subs shows quite a few people seem interested in the MC getting involved, given it's been that way since the very start. Don't worry I'm sure there will be tons of NTS content too. Ultimately, it is a multi genre game. The main genre being NTS doesn't mean there aren't other things going on, incest has been in the tags since day one (for the stepcest) and there's never been a question about the MC getting involved.

That BTW doesn't make it a harem game. Harem is not = to getting laid, considering harem implies a level of control and exclusivity I doubt the MC will ever have.
Harem according to this forums rules means 3+ LIs are interested in the MC. That's what I was told when I asked for harem tag to be removed from mine. Has nothing to do with exclusivity or control.
 
4.50 star(s) 145 Votes