I don't get what you and the people above you are babbling about, these DLCs are basically a Chapter 5 Part 2 (Anya + Afterparty). I agree calling them DLC is a poor choice of words by the dev but it seems to me these are just a POV change (which I'm eager to see) and then the story continuation with the after party, you people need to chill
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Since you write that this is a change of perspectives, then this cannot be a continuation of the story as such, because MC is Eric, herefore its called a DLC, because it will be through the eyes of Anya!
That's why I mentioned that DLC is a poor choice of words by the dev. The setting is still the same but told from another perspective, but it still follows the same narrative arc. Your definition of DLC doesn't hold any water because you can have DLCs with a MC, which is a common occurrence across the gaming industry (not just the AVN one).
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You don't understand! The change of perspectives already happened, but then it was sewn into the general story and didn't come out separately, but now it will come out separately from the main story!
So you are saying the dev already had the Anya POV ready and took it out to stretch out the deliveries? That would be a shitty thing to do... do you have a source on that, though?
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No, I'm talking about the fact that this update will only be about Anya, so the dev called this update a DLC.
You say it like the previous chapters don't already have the POV of other characters, like Anya watching the neighbors.
The point is that it used to take 1-2 months for an entire chapter. A chapter included multiple scenes. Now it is taking 2 months for a single scene DLC that is another character's POV. The "Afterparty" DLC will likely take at least 2 months to develop. Then who knows how long for CH 6. These DLCs aren't as big as chapters. That's 4+ months for content shorter than a chapter. Then however many months it'll take to see how the story progresses with CH 6.
i stopped supporting NTS games on patreon until the corruption girls actually starts sucking/fucking other people, and it's rare for an NTS game to cross this threshold
anya and violet are never going to actually do anything with other guys, and updates will get smaller and smaller and spaced farther apart.
these devs are incentivized to go as slow as possible and draw out the teasing forever by predatory patreon schemes. this game will never pay off its teasing as long as people give the dev money. just blue balls and empty wallets
anya and violet are never going to actually do anything with other guys, and updates will get smaller and smaller and spaced farther apart.
these devs are incentivized to go as slow as possible and draw out the teasing forever by predatory patreon schemes. this game will never pay off its teasing as long as people give the dev money. just blue balls and empty wallets
Fair point. Which is a terrible tactic because it actually ends up turning subs off. I think CH 1-4 were great for the build up. I hope the disappointment with CH 5 and how it ended puts the dev on the right track.
not really. a lot of games become very successful with this teasing scheme. there's really no downside from a devs perspective: more subs, less work, and you can milk for YEARS before the average patreon supporter dumbass realizes they're being taken advantage of
the only foolish part is these devs could simply finish their game and release it on steam and probably make way more money for doing zero ongoing work instead, and this would be less morally gross, but alas
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I've seen devs doing the worst of both worlds. They stop working on the game with yearly (if not longer) brief updates while releasing an early version on Steam, calling it first season/chapter/episode and rarely going further. It's not uncommon these days.
AVN is still a niche. I don't think you make that much on Steam with a general audience in comparison with Patreon where you can amass a fanbase/cult of devout followers willing to pay you monthly for not much work.
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Its wild to me the people who yap the most in this thread are the biggest whiners. You could just move on, but porn addiction is too real I suppose.
Feedback for the last update from paying patreons was mostly very positive. While we dont know what happens yet in the update, Anya banging a BBC already would be throwing out any pretense of story or character development to satisfy people who mostly dont even pay to play the game and would quickly move on when they got what they were waiting for. Im sure we all know it will happen, but while Im sure it might be a foreign concept to someone who spends hours a day gooning, narrative matters to many of us.
Anya has never watched Maki with another guy, BBC or not. In fact we've yet to have a real sex scene with Maki at all. Just a handjob.
Admittedly the one somewhat legitimate complaint in all the large amount of nonsense is the dev time has been lengthy. But CG is always stepping up in the quality game and I happen to know hes been applying depth controlnet that Abyss (and a tiny bit myself) helped set him up with. I think the effects of this will be very positive on the visual continuity and overall impact of scenes.
CG gives refunds to patreons who feel they were misled or scammed. But by and large we are a satisfied bunch, no other product here offers the same level of visuals. And Im not talking about just the art, which of course is AI. But the way scenes are composed.
I just cant imagine spending hours of my life over months getting upset about a porn game. I advise a walk on the beach, or touching grass.
Feedback for the last update from paying patreons was mostly very positive. While we dont know what happens yet in the update, Anya banging a BBC already would be throwing out any pretense of story or character development to satisfy people who mostly dont even pay to play the game and would quickly move on when they got what they were waiting for. Im sure we all know it will happen, but while Im sure it might be a foreign concept to someone who spends hours a day gooning, narrative matters to many of us.
Anya has never watched Maki with another guy, BBC or not. In fact we've yet to have a real sex scene with Maki at all. Just a handjob.
Admittedly the one somewhat legitimate complaint in all the large amount of nonsense is the dev time has been lengthy. But CG is always stepping up in the quality game and I happen to know hes been applying depth controlnet that Abyss (and a tiny bit myself) helped set him up with. I think the effects of this will be very positive on the visual continuity and overall impact of scenes.
CG gives refunds to patreons who feel they were misled or scammed. But by and large we are a satisfied bunch, no other product here offers the same level of visuals. And Im not talking about just the art, which of course is AI. But the way scenes are composed.
I just cant imagine spending hours of my life over months getting upset about a porn game. I advise a walk on the beach, or touching grass.
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As somebody who actually works on these sort of teasing scenes... you have no clue what you're even talking about. Ironically a lot of teasing type scenes are actually much harder to do with AI than a sex scene. Having Vi get her back blown out by a neighbour is not particularly hard, I'm sure given CG's attention to detail it would be done very well, but it's not harder or even as hard as many significantly less hardcore types of scenes.
There continues to always be a level of commentary around things people in this thread do not remotely have the knowledge to really comment on.
I'm currently working on just such a scene for SoA, and there are hurdles I have to overcome that would not be there if I was just having a girl get slammed, which is really not all that hard (although, to make it stand out/look unique is more time consuming).
Quick insider info into SoA discussions, because I can't claim I know the same for MNGF. But not once have we talked about pacing in terms of how well we can milk patreons. But rather in terms of how to make things somewhat narratively coherent while still having enough for people to chew on. I very much doubt CG thinks in those terms either.
are you able to make a post without constantly mentioning that you work on these games?
who cares lol
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Well, I comment when it's relevant because people make commentary about how difficult AI/controlnets/editing is without knowing anything about it.
If a random person were making commentary about the migration patterns of birds, without knowing anything actually about them. And a ornithologist read their comment they might take the time to educate. That's what I'm doing. You can take the knowledge or not.
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Which doesnt mean you know anything about it's NSFW applications... given that almost no AI company actually involves itself in such things.
I mean you clearly don't know these things when you try to imply that sex scenes were avoided due to difficulty.
But if you do know I'd love to see your catalogue of renders, clearly because it's so easy give me an AI image of 5 unique characters at a table sititing together, then alter their poses and expressions in a coherent manner to create a scene. You can use photoshop or controlnets as you will.
You are after all an expert at this, and it's easy. So it won't be a problem I'm sure.
Also saying "I work at an AI company" is meaningless What sort of AI company, what work do you do there? Do you work with LLM's? Image generation? What is the work you do? Are you the janitor?
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