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..oh so no vanilla path?
There's little "vanilla" anything. This is centered around BBCs; it's the tired but pervasive "Blacked" theme, and it's kinetic so no choices or reality checks. If this was a learning experience for a first time dev then great... they show promise. But this appeals to a narrow audience. NTS/NTR content is wider, but this revolves around Snowbunny/BBC kinks and that doesn't bode well for commercial success. In the end the dev will do as they like and target the audience as they choose.
 

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There's little "vanilla" anything. This is centered around BBCs; it's the tired but pervasive "Blacked" theme, and it's kinetic so no choices or reality checks. If this was a learning experience for a first time dev then great... they show promise. But this appeals to a narrow audience. NTS/NTR content is wider, but this revolves around Snowbunny/BBC kinks and that doesn't bode well for commercial success. In the end the dev will do as they like and target the audience as they choose.
um, it's been more than a year since that post, they've likely figured that out already

PS: wait, wtf, this is the first post by this account, and they decided for it to be a necropost
 

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that doesn't bode well for commercial success.
There are well over 300.000 creators on Patreon and this developer is ranked ~#1800th overall and ~#160th in the adult category as of now. His first post on Patreon dates back to May 2024 which means he's in it for roughly 15 months now. If making it to the top 0.6% on the platform within 15 months of development is not considered a commercial success for a creator on Patreon, I don't know what is.

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Considering he's pretty much tripled his subscriber count since then (screenshot), rough estimates would put him at ~$6.000 earnings per month and that is steadily going up aswell. That is more than successful for adult game developers if you ask me.

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There's little "vanilla" anything. This is centered around BBCs; it's the tired but pervasive "Blacked" theme, and it's kinetic so no choices or reality checks. If this was a learning experience for a first time dev then great... they show promise. But this appeals to a narrow audience. NTS/NTR content is wider, but this revolves around Snowbunny/BBC kinks and that doesn't bode well for commercial success. In the end the dev will do as they like and target the audience as they choose.
It's not centered around any one thing, I fail to see where you get that notion...

Also as pointed out it's doing commercially very well!

The reality is it balanced out many different fetishes against one another, some people don't like one or another of these (complaints about interracial elements or harem elements or stepcest elements or any other type of content present are nothing new here...) but no one type of content is overwhelming and all see a lot of planning and dev time.

The next chapter coming out is no exception to this, it's hardly "pervasive" there. Ultimately you can never please everyone, and having a kinetic VN with so many different fetishes present is bound to upset some people who like some of the fetishes but hate a couple of the others, but it's a success on that model and allows CG to write the narrative as he wants.


As an aside to everyone, teaser for the Vi photoshoot is up on patreon, the Anya and new girl teasers will follow later this month.
 
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It's not centered around any one thing, I fail to see where you get that notion...
It's not centered entirely around IR content, but it is a major theme, like 30%-40% of the content prolly. The entire female cast already had scenes with BBCs, except Laura (stepmom), but her bull is already around - the black neighbor working as a bouncer.

Vi (the gf) - sucks on BBCs in the MC's dreams, and literally weared "Blacked" lingerie at the photoshoot. We can be certain she will have her BBC IRL sometime

Vi's friend - sucks BBCs and sends selfies with them to the MC

the neighbor MILF - gets fucked by the stepson's BBC

The older stepsister - sucked on the BBC in the toilet

The younger sister - masturbated and filmed her sister sucking the BBC, masturbated to the neighbor MILF sucking and fucking on the BBC

Laura (stepmom) - no scenes with BBCs yet, but the black neighbor already oogled her boobs iirc, and there are hints that he will do much more than that in the future

And that's it, all girls in the game are white (so far) and every one of them got some IR content already, or will have one (Laura) by the looks of it


The other major themes are exhibitionism and swinging (with cuck vibes for the friend and without for the MC), but people mostly regard exhibitionism as vanilla content and swinging is stated as the main theme of the game.
 
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It's not centered entirely around IR content, but it is a major theme, like 30%-40% of the content prolly. The entire female cast already had scenes with BBCs, except Laura (stepmom), but her bull is already around - the black neighbor working as a bouncer.

Vi (the gf) - sucks on BBCs in the MC's dreams, and literally weared "Blacked" lingerie at the photoshoot. We can be certain she will have her BBC IRL sometime

Vi's friend - sucks BBCs and sends selfies with them to the MC

the neighbor MILF - gets fucked by the stepson's BBC

The older stepsister - sucked on the BBC in the toilet

The younger sister - masturbated and filmed her sister sucking the BBC, masturbated to the neighbor MILF sucking on the BBC

Laura (stepmom) - no scenes with BBCs yet, but the black neighbor already oogled her boobs iirc, and there are hints that he will do much more than that in the future

And that's it, all girls in the game are white (so far) and every one of them got some IR content already, or will have one (Laura) by the looks of it


The other major themes are exhibitionism and swinging (with cuck vibes for the friend and without for the MC), but people mostly regard exhibitionism as vanilla content and swinging is stated as the main theme of the game.
But every white girl also had some event with a white presenting dude too, and those events are most of the content by your own scientific method...So what's your point? Melanin heavy people shouldn't have less content? How much? What's the ratio for a cartoon game to not threaten your patronage?
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long for the day when "intermixing" is more normal than lowkey bringing apartheid back / people should only copulate with those that look like their cousins.
 
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SinisterPortal

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But every white girl also had some event with a white presenting dude too, and those events are most of the content by your own scientific method...So what's your point? Melanin heavy people shouldn't have less content? How much? What's the ratio for a cartoon game to not threaten your patronage?
your butthurt is duly noted :giggle:
my point was that it was reasonable to say that this game is BBC-centered in response to the question "is it vanilla?"
and yeah I don't mind the game being IR-heavy, just want people to do justice to it. It's not my kink but I don't think everyone should have the same tastes as me. You prolly should try this mindset too

I long for the day when "intermixing" is more normal than lowkey bringing apartheid back / people should only copulate with those that look like their cousins.
well, thanks for sharing, I guess.. Hope it helped you ease a bit
 

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There's little "vanilla" anything. This is centered around BBCs; it's the tired but pervasive "Blacked" theme, and it's kinetic so no choices or reality checks. If this was a learning experience for a first time dev then great... they show promise. But this appeals to a narrow audience. NTS/NTR content is wider, but this revolves around Snowbunny/BBC kinks and that doesn't bode well for commercial success. In the end the dev will do as they like and target the audience as they choose.
I disagreed with you because while I also dislike the omnipresent bbc fetish stuff, to say that's bad for commercial success is most definitely wrong. That stuff is GREAT for commercial success which is especially frustrating when you're not into it.
 

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It's not centered entirely around IR content, but it is a major theme, like 30%-40% of the content prolly. The entire female cast already had scenes with BBCs, except Laura (stepmom), but her bull is already around - the black neighbor working as a bouncer.

Vi (the gf) - sucks on BBCs in the MC's dreams, and literally weared "Blacked" lingerie at the photoshoot. We can be certain she will have her BBC IRL sometime

Vi's friend - sucks BBCs and sends selfies with them to the MC

the neighbor MILF - gets fucked by the stepson's BBC

The older stepsister - sucked on the BBC in the toilet

The younger sister - masturbated and filmed her sister sucking the BBC, masturbated to the neighbor MILF sucking and fucking on the BBC

Laura (stepmom) - no scenes with BBCs yet, but the black neighbor already oogled her boobs iirc, and there are hints that he will do much more than that in the future

And that's it, all girls in the game are white (so far) and every one of them got some IR content already, or will have one (Laura) by the looks of it


The other major themes are exhibitionism and swinging (with cuck vibes for the friend and without for the MC), but people mostly regard exhibitionism as vanilla content and swinging is stated as the main theme of the game.
I'm not getting embroiled in this argument again to be honest with you. You just lack reading comprehension man, that's all there is to really say. I already said it was one of the themes, along with a number of others. I'm involved in the proofreading process and know both the content of the next chapter as well as a lot (albeit not all) of the longer term plans. It's a major theme certainly, in the same way like half a dozen things are major themes in the game. It is annoying that people like you continue to push this false idea though, because all it's going to lead to is a lot of BBC gooners being disappointed when they don't get exactly what they want because they have a false impression about how heavily that content will be leaned into.

Anyway I'm peacing out for a bit, yapping in this thread is never a productive use of time.
 

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think the best thing we can do when it comes to Vn Kinect is to adopt a stoic mindset, not to worry about things we have no control over, it was the best thing I learned. I also hate the BBC fetish but it seems to be one of the main fetishes along with some others in this game and in many others and as Pr0GamerJohnny said, it is an extremely profitable fetish and we can't do anything about it, the best thing to do is accept it and enjoy the parts you like the most, I still think it's an excellent game even with these parts that I hate.
 

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I'm not getting embroiled in this argument again to be honest with you. You just lack reading comprehension man, that's all there is to really say. I already said it was one of the themes, along with a number of others. I'm involved in the proofreading process and know both the content of the next chapter as well as a lot (albeit not all) of the longer term plans. It's a major theme certainly, in the same way like half a dozen things are major themes in the game. It is annoying that people like you continue to push this false idea though, because all it's going to lead to is a lot of BBC gooners being disappointed when they don't get exactly what they want because they have a false impression about how heavily that content will be leaned into.

Anyway I'm peacing out for a bit, yapping in this thread is never a productive use of time.
Well, that's just rude. I didn't intend to start any argument, I already explained what I wanted to say in the response to Rubicon, so let's just stop it at this.

> BBC gooners being disappointed
really? the only non-BBC male that gets any considerable action is the MC (and even he gets BBC flashbacks while fucking his gf), so the only way there could be more BBC is having a black MC. Well unless the BBC gooners crave for race-themed humiliation, then I can understand your annoyance (and their disappointment)
but anyway, I'm not complaining or anything, nor am I arguing, my point is and was that the amount of BBC content in this game will be the most off-putting aspect for people expecting vanilla. The other themes present in the game will not be as confusing for vanilla lovers, and I think I provided enough substance to back this argument.
 
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