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Hardly has anything to do with her needing to be pure but rather having a consistent character. Also, it was previously stated that Vi and Eric would maintain their relationship and that it wouldn't just be her becoming a wanton slut leaving Eric behind. As far as having bad writing because it's porn, that excuse is nonsensical. As well as acting as if people can't critique poor writing in general or that certain writing shouldn't be adjusted. There's a reason every professional writer has to work with an editor.

You can keep passively aggressively saying I am playing wrong but again, I would suggest you replay her scene in the alley with Eric. Once again, how is she acting so nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend that her and Eric have mutually been teasing leading up to this. To then having no problem deepthroating a random guy with Eric having no involvement? That's the problem and completely inconsistent both with the build up of the previous update, the portrayal of the character, and the supposed vibe of their relationship as it has been presented until now. I get certain people just want as many gonzo sex scenes as possible in every game, which is fine, but there's also plenty of other mediums that provide that. In the case of visual novels/erotica like this, the difference maker is the writing and story.
Again if you're paying attention the setup is for them to have an open relationship.

Eric is often times fantasizing about Vi with other men. He's clearing dtf other women, without Vi,s permission and Vi is just assuming she has Erik's permission to go forward.

My complaint isn't that you're playing the game wrong. My complaint is that you're attaching erroneous feelings towards characters.

It is in fact ridiculous to hold porn game writers to the same standards as literature writers. Their entire premise is outside the boundaries of reality and deals strictly in the realm of fantasy.
 

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I'm starting today the planning of the Silver Update after a little rest.

First Change - The images I did on Photoshop for the Ari ridding scene are great but the facial expression that got animated doesn't work well animated in my opinion so I'm doing a upgrade on that to improve the quality of the scene, on top of that, when Ari switches holes the last animation isn't up to par with the quality of the other animations, that animations was done twice by mutiple animators and I had to use the best one for the release but I will rework it and have it animated again until it matches the quality of the scene.

Second Change - I want to to extend the scene with more renders and add a aftermath of the scene. Plus I wanna change a bit the tone of the scene especially with Vi as I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric. So I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for.
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Right and in combination with what he said in the off topic discussion he's not saying he's getting rid of the scene simply that he's changing the pace and going to include Erik somehow.

Just purely on speculation that can easily be accomplished with a short scene where VI and Erik have a conversation about the photoshoot and its pace and Eirk mentions it turns him on.

Or as speculated earlier the texts aren't Vi at all, but her porn star doppelganger and Arianna is just playing with Eirk's head.

We won't really know until the release.
 

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Right and in combination with what he said in the off topic discussion he's not saying he's getting rid of the scene simply that he's changing the pace and going to include Erik somehow.

Just purely on speculation that can easily be accomplished with a short scene where VI and Erik have a conversation about the photoshoot and its pace and Eirk mentions it turns him on.

Or as speculated earlier the texts aren't Vi at all, but her porn star doppelganger and Arianna is just playing with Eirk's head.

We won't really know until the release.
Nah, he's pretty much confirmed that it is Vi with this post, and the idea that he has isn't that they need to have a conversation about it, but that he wants Eric to be physically present for the first time Vi messes around with another guy. That would mean getting rid of the BJ, having Eric go to the photoshoot instead of to Ari, or (and this is my personal preference) he could add a BJ scene between Vi and Sai in the alleyway previously. Imo, that solves the problem without needing to delete anything that he's already published.
 
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Right and in combination with what he said in the off topic discussion he's not saying he's getting rid of the scene simply that he's changing the pace and going to include Erik somehow.

Just purely on speculation that can easily be accomplished with a short scene where VI and Erik have a conversation about the photoshoot and its pace and Eirk mentions it turns him on.

Or as speculated earlier the texts aren't Vi at all, but her porn star doppelganger and Arianna is just playing with Eirk's head.

We won't really know until the release.
I think everything is obvious here!
The dev wrote it in plain language: "I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric."
That is, in theory, Eric should be directly present nearby and not via video call or text message!
The dev also writes that he: "I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for."
That is, most likely there will no longer be a blowjob, but there will perhaps be a photos where Vi holds a dick and indicates that she wants to suck it, a photo next to a dick and ect!
 

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Nah, he's pretty much confirmed that it is Vi with this post, and the idea that he has isn't that they need to have a conversation about it, but that he wants Eric to be physically present for the first time Vi messes around with another guy. That would mean getting rid of the BJ, having Eric go to the photoshoot instead of to Ari, or (and this is my personal preference) he could add a BJ scene between Vi and Sai in the alleyway previously. Imo, that solves the problem without needing to delete anything that he's already published.
He says that, but then in order to have Erik present at the photoshoot or cut the bj scene he'd have to completely rewrite the scene with Ari. I just don't see any way around it.

I think everything is obvious here!
The dev wrote it in plain language: "I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric."
That is, in theory, Eric should be directly present nearby and not via video call or text message!
The dev also writes that he: "I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for."
That is, most likely there will no longer be a blowjob, but there will perhaps be a photos where Vi holds a dick and indicates that she wants to suck it, a photo next to a dick and ect!
Again the best we can do is speculate. We're really not going to know until the update drops.
And the fact that CG has been banned from this thread doesn't help.

It's almost worth me reevaluating my patreon support and cutting one dev and add him to my monthly roster.

That's the problem with supporting devs. If I did with everyone I liked I'd be making the equivalent of a monthly car payment and I don't really want that lol
 
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Nah, he's pretty much confirmed that it is Vi with this post, and the idea that he has isn't that they need to have a conversation about it, but that he wants Eric to be physically present for the first time Vi messes around with another guy. That would mean getting rid of the BJ, having Eric go to the photoshoot instead of to Ari, or (and this is my personal preference) he could add a BJ scene between Vi and Sai in the alleyway previously. Imo, that solves the problem without needing to delete anything that he's already published.
This definitely won't happen - it's too difficult to redo not only the last scene with Ari, but also the last scene of the previous update, the dialogue, pics, anim, etc.
 

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I think everything is obvious here!
The dev wrote it in plain language: "I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric."
That is, in theory, Eric should be directly present nearby and not via video call or text message!
While beeing a video call event, technically Erik going to be be right in front of Vi, even closer than he could've imagined.
 
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He says that, but then in order to have Erik present at the photoshoot or cut the bj scene he'd have to completely rewrite the scene with Ari. I just don't see any way around it.


Again the best we can do is speculate. We're really not going to know until the update drops.
And the fact that CG has been banned from this thread doesn't help.

It's almost worth me reevaluating my patreon support and cutting one dev and add him to my monthly roster.

That's the problem with supporting devs. If I did with everyone I liked I'd be making the equivalent of a monthly car payment and I don't really want that lol
You're right, we'll find out who's right when the update comes out!
By the way, when's the approximate release date?
 

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You guys must be thinking something completely different. If he just adds one bit to the alleyway scene where Vi gives Sai a bit of head, he literally doesn't have to rewrite anything else. At least, none of the images or animations. Maybe a little bit different wording. It's the least amount of changes.
 

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You're right, we'll find out who's right when the update comes out!
By the way, when's the approximate release date?
I have no idea. Usually the shorter updates only take a couple of months. One thing is for certain the next update is going to be highly anticipated. To hopefully clear up the ending in Chapter 6.
 
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You're right, we'll find out who's right when the update comes out!
By the way, when's the approximate release date?
He wrote a comment under 1 of his posts on patreon that it should be ready somewhere uhmm previous week ago... It's almost 2-3 week since when he wrote that, no more info given, also promised to release "Silver upd 2" in that time, still silence..
 
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You guys must be thinking something completely different. If he just adds one bit to the alleyway scene where Vi gives Sai a bit of head, he literally doesn't have to rewrite anything else. At least, none of the images or animations. Maybe a little bit different wording. It's the least amount of changes.
As in that's when Erik and Vi have officially opened up their relationship? I guess that's true. He probably should have done that in the After Party update, but then he did mention something about a slow burn and the slow burn crowd would have lost their minds. Much like they are now with the photog bj.
Which I personally think is dumb considering the dialogue. You can only slow burn for so long before the built up tension just looks silly and the game loses interest. I don't think devs should ever mention their intended pace, because then the autist fan base holds them to it strictly and any deviation they go on a rampage.
 

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You guys must be thinking something completely different. If he just adds one bit to the alleyway scene where Vi gives Sai a bit of head, he literally doesn't have to rewrite anything else. At least, none of the images or animations. Maybe a little bit different wording. It's the least amount of changes.
Here, overall you are right, but I can't see the universe where he touches previous chapter in order to maintain what we have now, and on top of that yourmomma - "the slow burn crowd would have lost their minds. Much like they are now with the photog bj." Second of all he himself said that he wants to change the current scene.
 
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Here, overall you are right, but I can't see the universe where he touches previous chapter in order to maintain what we have now, and on top of that yourmomma - "the slow burn crowd would have lost their minds. Much like they are now with the photog bj." Second of all he himslef said that he wants to change the current scene.
Right, but to what end to make it all fit together? That's where all this speculation is coming from and alot of people are just projecting. Hoping it works into their vision of the story.
 

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Right, but to what end to make it all fit together? That's where all this speculation is coming from and alot of people are just projecting. Hoping it works into their vision of the story.
If it's a video call(god I almost jeezed my pants already) it's fairly simple, Ariana handcuffs and then Vi shows up on a call in dressing room before the photoshoot,they have a small conversation about what is about to happen, then she walks in, says to Bruce(whoever) "I need to record that a bit for myself, before we can start all the fun" or "Let my bf join the fun "or"I can't let him miss the fun part". Ye I know it's a scuffed shit but you know what I mean.
 
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The best thing the developer could have done regarding the end of Chapter 6 is to have Eric go to the studio instead of Ari's house, and just as Vi is about to propose something to Bruce, Eric interrupts instead of Luke's cameo. Then, they'd work on the tension between Bruce and Vi, but with Eric still in the studio.
 

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The best thing the developer could have done regarding the end of Chapter 6 is to have Eric go to the studio instead of Ari's house, and just as Vi is about to propose something to Bruce, Eric interrupts instead of Luke's cameo. Then, they'd work on the tension between Bruce and Vi, but with Eric still in the studio.
You forgot to mention, he arrives there on a rainbow colored unicorn pegassus fully naked already, of course.
 
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I'm starting today the planning of the Silver Update after a little rest.

First Change - The images I did on Photoshop for the Ari ridding scene are great but the facial expression that got animated doesn't work well animated in my opinion so I'm doing a upgrade on that to improve the quality of the scene, on top of that, when Ari switches holes the last animation isn't up to par with the quality of the other animations, that animations was done twice by mutiple animators and I had to use the best one for the release but I will rework it and have it animated again until it matches the quality of the scene.

Second Change - I want to to extend the scene with more renders and add a aftermath of the scene. Plus I wanna change a bit the tone of the scene especially with Vi as I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric. So I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for.
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Nice way of ruining an already good update with the second change, I talked about this before, how he keep changing stories and scenes after having them already implemented, whats the point ?
 

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Nice way of ruining an already good update with the second change, I talked about this before, how he keep changing stories and scenes after having them already implemented, whats the point ?
Because despite what a few people think here it was out of character for where they are in their relationship and how she acted in the update directly prior. He admits that people pointed out something that he agrees didn't meet his own standards, not that he is changing standards to suit others. Which ironically is what a few here are demanding he do to see her go turbo slut as fast as possible.
 

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Because despite what a few people think here it was out of character for where they are in their relationship and how she acted in the update directly prior. He admits that people pointed out something that he agrees didn't meet his own standards, not that he is changing standards to suit others. Which ironically is what a few here are demanding he do to see her go turbo slut as fast as possible.
I mean he didn't see that himself? Nor his "advisors" ? Can't really agree more than it's audience pressure or so because it's been a while already and it doesn't feel too rushed or leaping, it suits the current progress and ATP it's a wasted effort because it'll be changed and that takes time from future development and extends time between chapters yet again.
 
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