Sure, if they had discussed such a thing beforehand, which they haven't yet, all they have talked about is exploring doing sluttier things. As you said, without the discussion that he wants her to go out and fuck guys on her own without even telling him first, it is just cheating. That's why Ari teased him by basically calling her a cheating slut during the scene. It just comes off as putting the cart before the horse in this particular situation but is easily rectified.
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But she didnt fuck, she just gave a BJ to entice him even more and as an apology she presented Ari, though they did talk about threesome with her, maybe havent explicitly stated that she can go on giving BJs but that's her testing the waters with him, though they agreed to go further, there's where surprises happen in the relationship. I dont see it as much as a story leap or as bad as they see it to revamp it totally and waste even more time.
I'm not sure there was mentioned any "changing the ending" neither "previous chapter" strictly.(changing the pace - yes) While I do agree, that way is one of the shorter roots to be taken for fixing current situation,(when I was on chap.5 dlc 2 I myself was almost sure the bj will continue on Sai) but if so, what takes him so long to do so? Either it to find right explanation for audince or making some bigger changes.
The surprises in this case would just be cheating, that's the problem. If he doesn't want her to go off and cheat, but rather keep the relationship purely about her being slutty to please the MC. Then you can't be giving deepthroat surprises without them agreeing and having an understanding first.
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It would be cheating if he doesnt approve of it, she went off the leash, and it was hinted upon multiple times that Vi tends to go off on her own and MC punishes her for being bad, that's one of the things, she tests him out by crossing boundaries and she pays it back, I believe it's more of leap of faith in their adventure than being told straight up cheating.
The escalation based on their current progress for being naughty on her end would be stripping down and being slutty for Bruce, maybe a handy. Deepthroating a guy she just met without Eric being involved or knowing goes far beyond being a little slutty for punishment with their current progress.
It's when we take into consideration almost every other NTR/NTS game cliches. I once wrote a comment just try imagining/comprehend yourself on Vi's place, it's super fucking hard not let yourself to temptation in that particular situation.
Okay, but giving into temptation is precisely what makes it cheating. Communicating boundaries and sex acts is the difference maker. That's why it makes sense to restructure how it played out to keep the pure nts vibe that Vi is supposed to have.
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Are we taking into consideration they're a bunch of High schoolers ? Not like mid 30s couple that are messing around for the first time after decades of dating experience and fucking around ? I dont disagree it could be a bit over their current pace but its not like she fucked him, also the whole photoshoot scene she was boiling and dripping wet based on the tension between her and Bruce, Luke was just the final straw to break the barrier.
As I just posted above, seems people are just trying to justify the cheating which isn't the point. All I am saying is that according to the original relationship description with Vi, she's never supposed to "cheat". So, if the dev wants to keep it that way then it makes sense to have a little more involvement from Eric during this development. Having Ari fuck him afterwards as an apology for cheating doesn't really fix it if the whole point is that she's never supposed to outright cheat.
I'm going to be honest, that scene is exactly why I'm here right now, it brought a spark, it made a lot of emotions, very contradictive, confusing but non the less true and really bright emotions and I don't really care personally is the thing she did right or wrong, cheating or hardcore teasing and I believe that situation is "plausible" and "believeble" if we dive down into the setting and into characters. It doesn't brake rules, cos there are almost non to begin with.
That's cool but again the intention with Vi from the onset of the development was seemingly out of every girl in the cast she would be the one that is explicitly just for the MC. Even though it would be the MC sharing/swinging with her. All the other girls will be getting fucked by all the other guys hanging around without Eric being involved at all. Eric being involved with what's happening with Vi is what makes it different. Otherwise she's just getting fucked by the other guys in the cast like all the other girls. Which is fine if the dev decides to go that route but that doesn't seem to be the intention.
During the fitting room scene with Erik and Sai they're both excited to see Vi pose for them. this implies at the very least Erik likes an exhibitionist side of Vi and showing off her body. Sai asks Vi to turn around and Vi complies without complaint. Sai also mentions " good friends share ". Erik's inner dialogue mentions " Seeing her putting on a show for him as well is making me so hard. " ".... I wonder how far she'll take this ".
After Sai asks to take pictures Again Erik can't believe it, but eagerly joins in. Vi mentions she'll put them on her Insta. Again Erik's inner dialogue , " She's killing me with anticipation. Posing like this. Posing like a slut."
Vi continues to escalate the teasing and acting a bit slutty and Erik loves it. She also mentions, " Two years down the line and I'll be too famous to even talk to you. " Foreshadowing? was she referring to both Erik and Sai or just Sai? Vi and Sai continue with some very flirtatious banter without Erik involved.
With the black dress she wants Sai to take a pic so she can definitely post it on her Insta. all without asking Erik's permission. Sai keeps telling her he's gotta take more pictures and Vi tells him to. Again all without asking for Erik's permission. She says they deserve a reward. Which is Sai going into the store and picking out a dress for her to pose in. She only asks Erik later as an after thought. Erik's inner dialogue. " Do I really care if Sai sees her more exposed? Fuck it. I wanna see how much of a slut Vi can be. "
Vi asks Erik if he likes the game she's playing. " Are you ready to see your girlfriend getting almost naked for you and your friend? " Vi is definitely fully in control and pushing Erik. Erik, " Fuck Vi, I didn't know you could be so naughty". Vi, " Do you mind if I'm naughty? " Erik, " Absolutely not". OUR FIRST APPROVAL FROM ERIK ON HOW MUCH HE LOVES HOW SLUTTY VI CAN BE AND PUSH HIS LIMITS. She does go on to mention, " I'm yours babe. I'm your naughty playtoy. " at this poing there is mixed signals. Because she's so willing to be an exhibitionist with another man. It's almost like she's toying with Erik. Because she also mentions Sai will probably be jerking it to her pictures tonight.
while posing in the bikini Erik's inner dialogue, " My girlfriend's a slut and I fucking love it. "
Later Erik catches Ari sucking of some rando BBC. She tells him she's knows a friend that can help. Erik wonders if she's referring to Vi. Ari mentions, while looking at Erik, that she knows a friend that would love to experiment with BBC and describes Vi to a T. Then mentions it's too bad VI wasn't there to help her lick up all the cum. SHE'D LOVE TO JOIN ME. LIKE THE GOOD CUM SLUT I KNOW SHE IS. A clear indication Ari knows Vi loves cock and isn't that innocent. We could chalk that up to Ari fucking with Erik, but all indications leads to Vi loving sex.
During the first photoshoot we get our first indication that posing and being in a photoshoot is like an aphrodisiac for Vi. She mentions about how free she feels which is echoed in the second photoshoot and she wants to tease Bruce until his nice guy mask falls off. She has an inner dailogue expressing how she likes teasing other men and assuming Erik would like it. She begins teasing Bruce. None of it was with a prior dialogue with Erik and his express consent. She just assumed he'd like it.
She begins flirting with bruce and they tease about pushing boundaries. Her inner dialogue while she she's sees the next revealing outfit ( the pink latex dress ) " There's no fantasy trying to be sold with this one. It's just me in a tight outfit showing off my body like a pornstar and that's exactly what I want! "
Erik texts her finaly and she tells him, doesn't ask him, that she's going to put on a show for Bruce. All Erik does is tell her to send him pics later. This right here is basically telling us Vi acts without Erik's consent and that when she does Erik is on board with it anyway. The envilope being pushed further. Vi's inner dialogue " A little punishment for leaving your girlfriend alone. " Meaning when she feels like being slutty it doesn't matter if Erik is there are not or giving his permision. She get's turned on by the thought of Bruce giving her orders. And hopes Erik would be on board with it. If not and I quote, " Then I hope you forgive me for what I'm about to do... "
She then goes on to further flirt with Bruce and mention she could pop out of the dress at any moment and " That's just my idea of fun. " She then goes on in her inner dialogue about how turned on she is. Erik not knowing what she's doing or wearing and flirting with an older man. She feels like a slut and wants more and more. Wants bruce to direct her and get naked for him and bend her over. Bruce directs her to squat down and shortly afterwards Vi's inner dialogue, " I'm sorry babe, but it looks like your girl is about to be someone else's toy for a bit! " Bruce directs her some more and her panties become exposed. Vi's inner dialogue, " God this is making me feel so hot! Exposing myself for the camera...exposing myself for another men ...exposing myself like a slut!! "
later she goes on thinking about she's going to love showing these pics to Erik and telling him about what Bruce did and " everything I do pushes both me and Erik down the rabbit hole."
I'm going to stop here, because this could go on further and I think I proved my point about people not paying attention to the dialogue and Vi's inner dialogue. How SHE wants to push things further and only involves Erik as an after thought and while talks about being his plaything seems to be playing with him and wants to be the plaything of others and the entire thing really turns her on and she's willing to act on it. And this is only the first couple of chapters. This entire banter continues on for the remaining chapters. So it really surprises me people are saying there isn't enough build up yet. The build up has been non stop since the very beginning. If you think about it Erik is just there for Vi and Ari to toy with. He's like a rabbit caught in a den of horny sluts.
After Sai asks to take pictures Again Erik can't believe it, but eagerly joins in. Vi mentions she'll put them on her Insta. Again Erik's inner dialogue , " She's killing me with anticipation. Posing like this. Posing like a slut."
Vi continues to escalate the teasing and acting a bit slutty and Erik loves it. She also mentions, " Two years down the line and I'll be too famous to even talk to you. " Foreshadowing? was she referring to both Erik and Sai or just Sai? Vi and Sai continue with some very flirtatious banter without Erik involved.
With the black dress she wants Sai to take a pic so she can definitely post it on her Insta. all without asking Erik's permission. Sai keeps telling her he's gotta take more pictures and Vi tells him to. Again all without asking for Erik's permission. She says they deserve a reward. Which is Sai going into the store and picking out a dress for her to pose in. She only asks Erik later as an after thought. Erik's inner dialogue. " Do I really care if Sai sees her more exposed? Fuck it. I wanna see how much of a slut Vi can be. "
Vi asks Erik if he likes the game she's playing. " Are you ready to see your girlfriend getting almost naked for you and your friend? " Vi is definitely fully in control and pushing Erik. Erik, " Fuck Vi, I didn't know you could be so naughty". Vi, " Do you mind if I'm naughty? " Erik, " Absolutely not". OUR FIRST APPROVAL FROM ERIK ON HOW MUCH HE LOVES HOW SLUTTY VI CAN BE AND PUSH HIS LIMITS. She does go on to mention, " I'm yours babe. I'm your naughty playtoy. " at this poing there is mixed signals. Because she's so willing to be an exhibitionist with another man. It's almost like she's toying with Erik. Because she also mentions Sai will probably be jerking it to her pictures tonight.
while posing in the bikini Erik's inner dialogue, " My girlfriend's a slut and I fucking love it. "
Later Erik catches Ari sucking of some rando BBC. She tells him she's knows a friend that can help. Erik wonders if she's referring to Vi. Ari mentions, while looking at Erik, that she knows a friend that would love to experiment with BBC and describes Vi to a T. Then mentions it's too bad VI wasn't there to help her lick up all the cum. SHE'D LOVE TO JOIN ME. LIKE THE GOOD CUM SLUT I KNOW SHE IS. A clear indication Ari knows Vi loves cock and isn't that innocent. We could chalk that up to Ari fucking with Erik, but all indications leads to Vi loving sex.
During the first photoshoot we get our first indication that posing and being in a photoshoot is like an aphrodisiac for Vi. She mentions about how free she feels which is echoed in the second photoshoot and she wants to tease Bruce until his nice guy mask falls off. She has an inner dailogue expressing how she likes teasing other men and assuming Erik would like it. She begins teasing Bruce. None of it was with a prior dialogue with Erik and his express consent. She just assumed he'd like it.
She begins flirting with bruce and they tease about pushing boundaries. Her inner dialogue while she she's sees the next revealing outfit ( the pink latex dress ) " There's no fantasy trying to be sold with this one. It's just me in a tight outfit showing off my body like a pornstar and that's exactly what I want! "
Erik texts her finaly and she tells him, doesn't ask him, that she's going to put on a show for Bruce. All Erik does is tell her to send him pics later. This right here is basically telling us Vi acts without Erik's consent and that when she does Erik is on board with it anyway. The envilope being pushed further. Vi's inner dialogue " A little punishment for leaving your girlfriend alone. " Meaning when she feels like being slutty it doesn't matter if Erik is there are not or giving his permision. She get's turned on by the thought of Bruce giving her orders. And hopes Erik would be on board with it. If not and I quote, " Then I hope you forgive me for what I'm about to do... "
She then goes on to further flirt with Bruce and mention she could pop out of the dress at any moment and " That's just my idea of fun. " She then goes on in her inner dialogue about how turned on she is. Erik not knowing what she's doing or wearing and flirting with an older man. She feels like a slut and wants more and more. Wants bruce to direct her and get naked for him and bend her over. Bruce directs her to squat down and shortly afterwards Vi's inner dialogue, " I'm sorry babe, but it looks like your girl is about to be someone else's toy for a bit! " Bruce directs her some more and her panties become exposed. Vi's inner dialogue, " God this is making me feel so hot! Exposing myself for the camera...exposing myself for another men ...exposing myself like a slut!! "
later she goes on thinking about she's going to love showing these pics to Erik and telling him about what Bruce did and " everything I do pushes both me and Erik down the rabbit hole."
I'm going to stop here, because this could go on further and I think I proved my point about people not paying attention to the dialogue and Vi's inner dialogue. How SHE wants to push things further and only involves Erik as an after thought and while talks about being his plaything seems to be playing with him and wants to be the plaything of others and the entire thing really turns her on and she's willing to act on it. And this is only the first couple of chapters. This entire banter continues on for the remaining chapters. So it really surprises me people are saying there isn't enough build up yet. The build up has been non stop since the very beginning. If you think about it Erik is just there for Vi and Ari to toy with. He's like a rabbit caught in a den of horny sluts.
Vi will follow a NTS route ( sharing, swing, exhibitionism )
Unless the dev has changed his mind about the above, you want Vi to follow a route contradictory to it. You are giving the perfect example as to why the scene should be rearranged to stay true to the original intention. Eric should not be an afterthought in their relationship, she shouldn't be doing things behind his back, etc. Else her place in the story devolves into just being one of the other girls and not his faithful if slutty gf.
I'm directly quoting the dialogue in the game , dude. Are you not reading it?
And I am quoting the statement on the front page about Vi's intended role in the story. Maybe now you can understand why it's been decided the scene will be updated. Up until now, as you say, she has always involved Eric in her teasing and getting him to egg her on to go even further. Based on your posting you want her to throw Eric into the corner and go full NTR cuck mode. The dev can do that too but I am just going off of the prior statement on Vi's role and relationship with Eric. Which would explain why he felt like the first blowjob with another guy should be done differently.
I didn't say any of that and you're putting words in my mouth. She clearly wants to be more daring with other men and will include Erik. Just as an after thought. Later during the photoshoot she took what Erik said, during sex the previous night, as permission. She wants to push Erik further. Per the dialogue which you're conviently ignoring.
The problem here that I see is people expecting a strict adherence to the definition of NTS and not allowing the dev to breathe and just create the story he wants to create. At best the game loosely adheres to the definition and quite frankly I could care less and am simply more interested in seeing where CG takes this. Regardless of labels and tags. I can enjoy a game without flipping out about what tag it has. Which at best are simply guidelines.
You said that she really doesn't care about Eric at all and just wants to fuck other men. Even saying she's lying about wanting to be his plaything and imply she just wants to cheat on him.
You clearly want this to go a certain direction that is contradictory to the intended relationship with Vi. Where she is fully cucking Eric with no regard to their relationship. Clearly, that's not the intention based on previous statements and the dev update.
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I feel like you want too much of a hand holding dynamic between Eric and Vi. Vi might be doing stuff without communicating it beforehand with Eric (which Eric's done before btw), but she always tells him about it. That in return leads to Eric reclaiming (or punishing as Eric and Vi would put it) her. I wouldn't go hell-bent on the tags provided in the OP as some of them may be followed more or less loosely which was mentioned by other users who are part of the dev team before. CG is doing his thing first and foremost, and you'll be seeing situations that'll go beyond what a particular tag may "allow".
Tag-watching while playing this game will surely end up being a disappointing journey on your end.
Anyway... You've repeated your stance like 10 times by now and this whole discussion is running in circles.