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mandok

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What's the deal with Mr. Palmer? I don't really follow that game.
He started a great project called A Perfec Marriage, the project is still great, have nice story and nice designs. But he started promising monthly updates and then little by little now his updates take around 5-6 months, just milking supporters without giving appropiate communication basically
 

Sahan777

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Based on the responses of the dev this chapter might end up a complete waste of time after the changes (though I'm holding out hope he figured out something good, it seems like there's too many changes needed for how long a chapter usually takes)

At present if we're seeing this second photoshoot not go anywhere, it's just a rehash of the first shoot, and then what exactly spurs Erik to have sex with Ari (a character I dont give a fuck about personally).

If the chapter just ends up being photo shoot 2 with no payoff and nothing even teased, and then just random sex with Ari, it is imo a huge let down and a sign the story is going to keep not delivering on its core promise.

The story is building to sharing/open relationship for Vi and Erik at its core, the longer that it goes on avoiding this the less I'm convinced it will actually deliver before I personally lose interest entirely.

Tbh knowing at this rate it'll be vi gives a handjob next update in half a year, then a blowjob in another half a year, etc... depending what the dev does with his changes I'm pretty close to losing interest as is.
 
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PsyDoggo

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Based on the responses of the dev this chapter might end up a complete waste of time after the changes (though I'm holding out hope he figured out something good, it seems like there's too many changes needed for how long a chapter usually takes)

At present if we're seeing this second photoshoot not go anywhere, it's just a rehash of the first shoot, and then what exactly spurs Erik to have sex with Ari (a character I dont give a fuck about personally).

If the chapter just ends up being photo shoot 2 with no payoff and nothing even teased, and then just random sex with Ari, it is imo a huge let down and a sign the story is going to keep not delivering on its core promise.
I think we shlould worry not, I'm almost sure CG will deliever! Right know I'm morbidly curious how the scene will be played out, so much speculations, so many different visions and theories but whose going to be right? fuck dying of anticipation.
 

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Anya Silver Update Changes and Release Date

Hey guys, final version of Chapter 6 comes out tomorrow.

I added mutiple animations and a small Maki scene. Kira also got some changes for better consistency, she's a new girl and I'm still learning the best way to deal with her. Luke is also out of the update and a new male characther is being introduced into the story. The crossover with Luke was fun but it brought some logistic problems into the development and after some issues with the consistency of Luke I decided to develop a new charachter that I can rely on.

Anya changes consist of adding a new outfit to extend the scene a little bit and to ease things into the naughtier outfits instead of starting with a super slutty outfit from the start, the "inside the fitting room" scene dialogue has been completly re-written to better fit Anya's charachter and corruption level. Now Anya's personality and insecurities are way more present in the dialogue and she doesn't pass as just another slut anymore.
 

cryfane

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Based on the responses of the dev this chapter might end up a complete waste of time after the changes (though I'm holding out hope he figured out something good, it seems like there's too many changes needed for how long a chapter usually takes)

At present if we're seeing this second photoshoot not go anywhere, it's just a rehash of the first shoot, and then what exactly spurs Erik to have sex with Ari (a character I dont give a fuck about personally).

If the chapter just ends up being photo shoot 2 with no payoff and nothing even teased, and then just random sex with Ari, it is imo a huge let down and a sign the story is going to keep not delivering on its core promise.

The story is building to sharing/open relationship for Vi and Erik at its core, the longer that it goes on avoiding this the less I'm convinced it will actually deliver before I personally lose interest entirely.

Tbh knowing at this rate it'll be vi gives a handjob next update in half a year, then a blowjob in another half a year, etc... depending what the dev does with his changes I'm pretty close to losing interest as is.
Same feelings here, when the chapter released I posted a review here that got a lot of agreement (if one can translate likes as that) saying that the final scene wasn't as good because it didn't went further, it ended abruptely in a cliffhanger. Now if the changes CG's releasing actually make that scene go not further, but backwards in development then I'm probably just sticking for another 1 or 2 updates and might lose interest as well.

I love slowburn stories but when it's only being slow for the female character it just seems weird, Luke has had sexual interactions with most of the imediate women social circle while Vi is not even close to be on the same numbers as him, or even the same actions. Self inserting people seeing a problem in what Vi did are starting to just sound like misogynistic controllers thinking they're playing a harem game.

I'm all in for changing Vi scene to make it better if that's what he wants, but toning it down is a severe mistake and most of the audience here (not the loud ones) seems to be on board with my personal opinions, no ego intended.

Circle knows really well how to make good scenes with Vi, specially when she's taking the lead and teasing Eric, that couple is the top seller of MNGF. So far his biggest fail is adding so much cliffhangers to those scenes, which I can see the reasons for but I feel more disappointed they weren't completed than eager to see them done in the next chapter. I'm still optimistic he's changing the scene without toning it down in pace (I also didn't like Luke there for example and he seems to be removing it as far as one can estimate, which is good), but if the best part of his game starts to get changed to fit some other view not connected to what was previously showed then I'm gonna lose interest real fast.

Let's see what tomorrow will show us.
 

Sahan777

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Same feelings here, when the chapter released I posted a review here that got a lot of agreement (if one can translate likes as that) saying that the final scene wasn't as good because it didn't went further, it ended abruptely in a cliffhanger. Now if the changes CG's releasing actually make that scene go not further, but backwards in development then I'm probably just sticking for another 1 or 2 updates and might lose interest as well.

I love slowburn stories but when it's only being slow for the female character it just seems weird, Luke has had sexual interactions with most of the imediate women social circle while Vi is not even close to be on the same numbers as him, or even the same actions. Self inserting people seeing a problem in what Vi did are starting to just sound like misogynistic controllers thinking they're playing a harem game.

I'm all in for changing Vi scene to make it better if that's what he wants, but toning it down is a severe mistake and most of the audience here (not the loud ones) seems to be on board with my personal opinions, no ego intended.

Circle knows really well how to make good scenes with Vi, specially when she's taking the lead and teasing Eric, that couple is the top seller of MNGF. So far his biggest fail is adding so much cliffhangers to those scenes, which I can see the reasons for but I feel more disappointed they weren't completed than eager to see them done in the next chapter. I'm still optimistic he's changing the scene without toning it down in pace (I also didn't like Luke there for example and he seems to be removing it as far as one can estimate, which is good), but if the best part of his game starts to get changed to fit some other view not connected to what was previously showed then I'm gonna lose interest real fast.

Let's see what tomorrow will show us.
I agree, the story works when it's a balance of teasing and delivering, but the teasing is only effective when you actually believe it might be acted on/delivered, and it's certainly not an easy balance to get right so I don't wanna make it sound like that.

CG has a good balance going it's just so far for me the latest chapter is the first time I feel on the edge of losing faith in the storytelling, and largely that's due to the cliffhanger and then perception of backing off of the cliffhanger after the fact.

Hopefully they deliver though, it's not like I want to hate on the story or see it fail, which is why I have some concerns.
 

Yougiblack

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Holy fucking shit so its not just Violet ? The whole main scenes of the chapter is being revamped ? Nah thats straightup horseshit at this point, WTF are you even taking time for 3 months if you will just end up RE WRITING and ADDING more scenes ? Excuse the fuck out of me ? Plan your shit well to not have YET ANOTHER mini update for an already update that took too long to release, and now what ? Every chapter he will release good shit to calm us down with and then revamps the chapter to "Better fit their personalities and corruption level ?!" So what ? We will see the first fucking action after another year of "Slow burn" and "Chapter revamping" ?!?!?!?!
 

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Anya Silver Update Changes and Release Date

Hey guys, final version of Chapter 6 comes out tomorrow.

I added mutiple animations and a small Maki scene. Kira also got some changes for better consistency, she's a new girl and I'm still learning the best way to deal with her. Luke is also out of the update and a new male characther is being introduced into the story. The crossover with Luke was fun but it brought some logistic problems into the development and after some issues with the consistency of Luke I decided to develop a new charachter that I can rely on.

Anya changes consist of adding a new outfit to extend the scene a little bit and to ease things into the naughtier outfits instead of starting with a super slutty outfit from the start, the "inside the fitting room" scene dialogue has been completly re-written to better fit Anya's charachter and corruption level. Now Anya's personality and insecurities are way more present in the dialogue and she doesn't pass as just another slut anymore.
Thank god Luke was taken out, it was a good choice to remove him. Now I don't feel like I was ntsed by myself anymore.

Anyways, I recommend many of you who tend to get caught in the argue loop in the thread to turn off mentions, comments , new comments or whatever for your own sanity. It's worth it for one's dignity too.. it's a porn game for God sake.
 
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Thatlostone

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Thank god like was taken out, it was a good choice to remove him. Now I don't feel like I was ntsed by myself anymore.

Anyways, I recommend many of you who get caught in the argue loop in the thread to turn off mentions, comments , new comments or whatever for your own sanity. It's worth it.
Who was Luke again? I forgot half the names since the update.
 

palmtrees89

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Holy fucking shit so its not just Violet ? The whole main scenes of the chapter is being revamped ? Nah thats straightup horseshit at this point, WTF are you even taking time for 3 months if you will just end up RE WRITING and ADDING more scenes ? Excuse the fuck out of me ? Plan your shit well to not have YET ANOTHER mini update for an already update that took too long to release, and now what ? Every chapter he will release good shit to calm us down with and then revamps the chapter to "Better fit their personalities and corruption level ?!" So what ? We will see the first fucking action after another year of "Slow burn" and "Chapter revamping" ?!?!?!?!
The parts that are being reworked have been talked about for weeks, both by the developer and users here. :unsure:

As for needed reworks - Said it before, but in my opinion he's not doing himself a favor by going bigger with every Chapter. Ch05+06 both had the issues of being in need of rework/finishing touches/proper endings, which I think was due to CG biting of more than he could chew in the time he gave himself (See DLC's for Ch05 - He's had to add two updates in order to finish the Chapter plus reworks as he's going bigger and bigger). Proper quality control with time to fix things is needed no doubt, but I'm guessing his proofreading/playtesting team aswell as himself didn't have enough time to make the required adjustments happen after he's (prematurely) announced the release date for Ch06. That's just my uneducated guess tho.

I'll say that again aswell - To have a more manageable project, toning the amount of images down to ~250'ish per Chapter would prolly do wonders. But that's easier said than done when you have a vision in your mind in regards to what you want the finished scenes to look like, how you want to tell the story... etc. You work on a scene and suddenly you realize it's turned into a monstrosity in terms of size and time.

Many developers end up creating bigger and bigger updates every time, which I think at some point goes into diminishing returns territory. It's his game and his decision at the end of the day, but me personally I hope this isn't spiraling through the roof. :)

Anyway... Excited to see the changes for Ch06. Preview images of Anya and Maki looking good!
 

Yougiblack

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The parts that are being reworked have been talked about for weeks, both by the developer and users here. :unsure:

As for needed reworks - Said it before, but in my opinion he's not doing himself a favor by going bigger with every Chapter. Ch05+06 both had the issues of being in need of rework/finishing touches/proper endings, which I think was due to CG biting of more than he could chew in the time he gave himself (See DLC's for Ch05 - He's had to add two updates in order to finish the Chapter plus reworks as he's going bigger and bigger). Proper quality control with time to fix things is needed no doubt, but I'm guessing his proofreading/playtesting team aswell as himself didn't have enough time to make the required adjustments happen after he's (prematurely) announced the release date for Ch06. That's just my uneducated guess tho.

I'll say that again aswell - To have a more manageable project, toning the amount of images down to ~250'ish per Chapter would prolly do wonders. But that's easier said than done when you have a vision in your mind in regards to what you want the finished scenes to look like, how you want to tell the story... etc. You work on a scene and suddenly you realize it's turned into a monstrosity in terms of size and time.

Many developers end up creating bigger and bigger updates every time, which I think at some point goes into diminishing returns territory. It's his game and his decision at the end of the day, but me personally I hope this isn't spiraling through the roof. :)

Anyway... Excited to see the changes for Ch06. Preview images of Anya and Maki looking good!
Dude becoming full time on the game and still can't manage? And why even constantly changing in the first place if you just think it through and you even have a team to ask, it really ends up wasting time and development if you keep repeating the same cycle, whether he can't chew what he bites but ATP he throws away what he bitten to chew something else totally.
 

palmtrees89

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Dude becoming full time on the game and still can't manage? And why even constantly changing in the first place if you just think it through and you even have a team to ask, it really ends up wasting time and development if you keep repeating the same cycle, whether he can't chew what he bites but ATP he throws away what he bitten to chew something else totally.
The size and quality of chapters has gone up by a lot. I know people love to ignore that, but comparing Ch01 with Ch05+06 it's obvious how much more work goes into creating this both in regards to the amount of images and editing/postwork. Working full-time on this project doesn't magically make everything perfect. CG's got like what, 16 months worth of experience as a game developer now. He's not perfect. If he was doing this for 8+ years I'd be more vocal about the reworks considering it does take up quite a lot of time he could otherwise spend on the development of new chapters, but ay.

As for planning and the team behind him, sure, he could improve on that. Like I said in my previous post, quality control is needed and I'm guessing he didn't leave enough time for that seeing the delays and now reworked content. I don't know how much or how detailed he's planning ahead as we're pretty much in the same boat here, so can't really comment on that.
 

Yougiblack

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The size and quality of chapters has gone up by a lot. I know people love to ignore that, but comparing Ch01 with Ch05+06 it's obvious how much more work goes into creating this both in regards to the amount of images and editing/postwork. Working full-time on this project doesn't magically make everything perfect. CG's got like what, 16 months worth of experience as a game developer now. He's not perfect. If he was doing this for 8+ years I'd be more vocal about the reworks considering it does take up quite a lot of time he could otherwise spend on the development of new chapters, but ay.

As for planning and the team behind him, sure, he could improve on that. Like I said in my previous post, quality control is needed and I'm guessing he didn't leave enough time for that seeing the delays and now reworked content. I don't know how much or how detailed he's planning ahead as we're pretty much in the same boat here, so can't really comment on that.
Sure I cant deny quantity and quality have gone up, but is that improvement in correlation with how much more effort he's putting in ? Sure he doesnt have much experience yet but still his level RN has him probably in the Number 1 ranking NTS AI game, which is pretty new to our industry yet he's up still, he can do more or atleast maintain some consistency, to what extent are you going to improve the quality more and more ? GGGB had improved in its years of development but Eva Kiss didnt revamp the whole game to improve it 100%, no, she implemented her upgrades whether in quality, quantity and whole project's quality in her NEW GAME ORS, you need to reach a threshold for this season, atleast if you want to up your game then up it in Season 2 for example. What I care about is sticking to the quality we have now and state consistent on it, and expand either quantity or stick to the same quantity but decrease the development time, what people care about the most is development timeline and quality, if you can stay consistent in your quality and have shorter span, sure go ahead, 1.5 months to 2 months max for each update sounds good enough. But are you going to keep increasing the dev pace AND the quality as a reason ? Nah we dont want THAT extent, perfectionism ruins games like Gunpowder Cocktail, looking forward to it soon.
 

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It's been my understanding that further into the story devs take longer to update because the story becomes more involved and more of the plot begins to branch out and towards the end they have to weave them back in for the end to make sense. Take from that what you will, but something I always keep in the back of my mind.
 
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