yea i dont think any of them have actually been paying attention to their dynamic this whole time. they have really been pushing their own envelopes the whole time.
considering how shes never really told him anything before he hasnt actually fucked her around. was just oblivious to him cause who expects that from their sister?
I don't think that crowd left; they just pulled support. There will be changes to the latest update unless the dev is one hell of a writer and can write his way out of Vi going too far. As an NTS guy, that was too far, personally. But I can also look at it and say it is fine if pure slut is what the dev is shooting for. I have already jumped ship and boarded Anya's love palace. Why? Because she is dedicated to him and didn't manipulate to get there. That will likely be all fucked up very soon, as I said, because Eric hurt her.
I'll be short here - try playing the game from very beginning, the build up for the last moment is there or even over the top. From that logic: Vi needes to end the shoot only showing her breasts, in another her pussie, in another she should hold hands with male model while naked, in the next one kiss the male model on the cheek while naked, next to touch male models dick with only 1 finger etc. Thats is BS. They are inexperienced couple, new couple, horny to the brim couple, Vi as a person also has her own needs and desires thats why jumps like that is excaptable, mb bad for relationship but also can be interpreted as "mistake" - that what makes a story feel alive and not perfect NTS/NTR cliche bullcrap.
Its the sperm, one is licking skin, the other is gobbling cum, sperm in a sense mark the person that receive it, its nearly a mark of possession to some degree in men's mind, which is why its a big step compared to just licking balls, after she gobble some cum she'll be effectively marked as not just Erik's girl anymore, so yea it would make far more sense for him to be there when that happens. Its one of the major milestones, kiss someone else, get exposed to their sexual fluids, have actual sex, the three big milestones, all of which the partner should be there for the first time so they can bond over it. Afterward sure its fine if they do it with others, but the first time in a shared / swinging relationship should always be with both present as it reinforced the notion its a milestone for their relationship, I mean sure here Erik basically burned thru the entire list way ahead of Violet, but we are standing in Erik's shoes so logically its not his actions that would be problematic for us but Violet's actions, its unfair but he is the MC.
To say showing different body parts to be the same is foolish, showing of the parts that normally are reserved for your partner would be one step altogether. Also I do tend to align a number of different actions together, kissing is if anything more intimate then groping, so if you did one the other is fine, as I said anything that expose one to the other's sexual fluids is the next step. As for saying about 'cliche bullcrap' you know what make a story feel alive? Making it feel real. Do you know what make it feel real? Fear, if you say alright she should be willing to just slut it up because it make it more exciting for you it doesn't make the story more alive, it just make it dumb porn. You mention Vi having her own needs and desire, but you don't mention her own fear, her own concerns over the consequences of her actions, as other mentioned she showed distinctly a great deal of fear and concerns shortly before that, so have it all waved away doesn't make the story feel alive, it make it feel like cliche porn bullcrap as you'd say.
You may indeed be right, I don't know. I admittedly do not have the same history with this site or VN type to say. I think given the events that Vi's actions could fall in line with the lead up, but my preference would be for it to move slower. However neither is a deal breaker for me. I am more about her and Eric being a strong couple, once that erodes is when I will step away. As it is, I just plan to consume the VN multiple chapters at a time by waiting long stretches between reads. Currently we have ended this chapter in the "middle" of things. And as you stated the direction is not really clear. I think the Dev is going for a situation were Eric is down and excited for nearly anything which VI loves and enjoys. I am actually cool with that as long as they come together at the end of the "fun". That they are top of mind for one another. So to that end, I am likely to treat this like I do One Piece. Wait out an Arc and read the full thing in a binge. Rather be able to read the full picture in one go.
There definitely seems to be a build towards Anya and Rob. So I could see things happening there. How it all plays out, unsure. But I do think that those same folks who disliked VI's BJ would dislike Anya being with Rob before Eric. In fact I think there was already a scene adjustment in that regards too, so maybe the Dev feels the same. Or it was just about Anya moving to fast in the club scene.
I think the nightlife scene went both ways, and I also think a large portion of the audience would like to see Anya with Eric before any other guy. And regarding Rob, he's already had Maki before, so it would be a bit repetitive and boring for me, at least for him to be Anya's first, too, because I feel like he'll probably end up being VI's first, too. So with that, I think it would be too much focus on his character, and I don't think CG would do that, and I really don't like his character; he's just a generic BBC character from any game out there.
Oral sex = mouth on southern private parts, regardless of fluids, but more importantly, there is no way a polyamorous relationship "should" go. What works for you is very different than what works for others. Many people can tolerate their partners being with someone else but have no desire to watch and "bond over it." As to major milestones, those are also yours and not everyone's. Some people find things like tits and cock, or seeing a pussy before diving in, to be milestones regardless of fluid contact.
Yeah, I think I prefer Rob's bro more at this point if Anya were to end up with someone she has "interacted" with besides Eric thus far. Cause we know she is going to be with someone else at some point. A foursome of the group at the dressing room scene could be interesting.
I think you are projecting your own understanding, what those steps are or more so, what generic NTS games tought you. Circle said himself he wants to do thing differently, whatever that means we only see it at the end product. Yes I was also talking about fear but from different perspective.(fear for MCs, for their relationship, how their deeds change dynamic of current bonds) Doesn't it feel real when person can succumb to their own desires(what Vi did) or having doubts about that. In 1 of my post mentioned that is totally plausable for her to fall into her own desires in that moment because of tremendous amount of build up, thing that happened to her a day before the shoot, things that she likes to do(it is soo clear). She showed distinctly more thoughts about how she enjoes every moment of that and how Erik will enjoy that aspect of her too. It's almost as we are reading different stories. I do tend to lean more into NTR but I also into NTS if we talking with those words, but those are only my personal preferences and I don't want assure anybody that project should go into any particular way, I just want to see the story of this couple whether they become stronger or crumble in this devious world - the more diffent turn it will have the more interesting it for me, same as reading a book.
I also much prefer his brother because he seems to escape that generic BBC cliche that has a huge dick and all the women want to fuck him because yes, for me that is so outdated, it has been done in so many games that I'm already tired of it and besides, his brother's GF was very hot.
The dev gets plenty of constructive feedback on his Discord server. He gets "feedback" here eventually.
New animations were added to the Anya closet scene, one for the Photoshoot, and remade for the Ari's scene at the end
Yea everyone is different sure, but do you know what most people in such a relationship have? A frank talk about limitations and boundaries, they don't just jump into it. Which is what Violet & Erik haven't had, all they had is Violet having concerns and Erik appeasing said concerns by saying its going to be fine. What I was saying ultimately is not everybody is on the same level in term of what they deem acceptable, and in absence of having determined that much, their are clearly restraint that should be had. Also sure what I called milestones might not be universal, but still the milestones I mentioned guess what they matched, mostly the typical 'bases' system.
We actually haven't seen how she think during the 'blonde' photo shoots, purely before, again she might have thought Erik would be fine with her showing off skin, or even being naked, the only comments we have on her 'perspective' at that point was Ari which clearly wanted to rile Erik up so he'd fuck the shit out of her. The problem is this is an NTS story in which you let your favored NTR perspective dictate what measure an acceptable character behavior. Their is a difference between the needs and desires of an NTR slut that fuck anything that move and someone in a NTS relationship. Again at one point you'd expect she'd have hit some hard limit in term of what she deemed acceptable at the time, and yea a guy nutting in her mouth would have likely been one of those limits she would have had without addressing her boyfriend because again she isn't a NTR slut that is supposed to be willing to do everything and anything in her boyfriend's back without concern because he is a Beta Cuck that gets off her doing anything she wants or being too weak willed to act against her.
I do agree that we have not seen her thoughts in the moments leading up to the oral sex. One of the things that makes this chapter feel unresolved. But you both are making valid points given the story thus far. Not sure which way the writer will ultimately go, but they have left room to go either way. I feel that Bruce's studio lends itself more towards VI in a corruption arc, as we do know that Bruce has influence over her. To what extent, once again we shall have to wait and see. But my guess is that it will be fairly sizeable amount. That could be me projecting as you say, but it would not be out of want for it to happen. Not a big fan of the porn star angle. I just accept that such seems to be the course.
