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Avaron1974
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You're thinking corruption but there is none of that here, nor cheating.
I highly doubt anyone else has any influence over her given the only thing happening in this game is fully allowed between the 2 of them.
OMG it's alsmost impossible to make a constructive talk to you, you are still talking with those cliches, are you hard coded that way already? The thing I prefer have nothing to do with what actually happening in the story. Those boundaries you are talking about can only(ideally) be set by a 35-40yo couple with huge amount of experience, where they do know what to do or they think so - those 2 are uni students, immature, set to make mistaces along the road they chose, filled to the brim with lust and desires and second of all it's a fictional porn story.
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You seem to be missing the point too though.
The dev has highlighted that Vi will only engage in NTS and she won't be cheating. Vi's content is NTS only.
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I'm also not a big fan of this path with her becoming a star, I hope that doesn't happen and porn I think it wouldn't make much sense in this relationship only later on because they are just discovering the limits and what they like and her becoming a porn star I think it's too advanced and after a while it would become a bit monotonous him always having sex with someone new and filming porn scenes I much prefer that the focus remains on the main cast and that if it is addressed more towards the end of the game, and this relationship she has with Bruce I also find very strange he has such a great power over her almost the same as Eric has I find it a bit confusing that.
I am more referring to her inner monologue on how Bruce makes her feel like Eric does and that while Eric give her permission, Bruce takes it. From there without hearing her inner thoughts on why she performed Oral and so forth it is hard to say what influenced her to do so. Could indeed be that nothing but her own desires were in play.
I agree that it is hard to "cheat" on someone that says all bets are off. But that aspect of Eric seems of to me. I think he does care that she is emotionally faithful. Which is what some of her inner Bruce thoughts go against. But ultimately I think Eric will be written as liking whatever is done and portrayed, that he has not been cheated on no matter what Vi does or submits to. Just not sure the audience will feel the same depending upon what all happens and the reasons why.
I'm not missing a thing here, it was told only in the beggining of the project by the Dev and also I can't see the way it leans to cheating either, yet. I will still be totally fine if it don't.(I'm almost sure Circle will play more on that theme just to hold us on tippy toes but it will never actually happen). Cheating can be abstractive, for more vanilla couples cheating will be just a mental connection to another person, for other a kiss is cheating and taboo, but in this story they are both open about doing those things, even when 1 of them is not present at the moment - it's called trust, so I really can't see almost any solid background for "adultery".
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Zobra
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i like your input on all what you said there my Lady , that the real NTS , but some just want to push it hard/faster.
this is why i like this game (beside SOAmbition/M-Lake) , none of the girls will/should make sex Decisions on their own , just teasing (physically / virtually) or Foreplay (Cuck Femdom-maledom on bed) for now , and push boundaries slowly (V is doing it for MC anyway).
didn't play Ch6 yet so can't make full judgement , tho what she's doing excites him that for sure , but he isn't 100% sure here (he stutters, and still find it weird).
At the end , he have to be present when she push boundaries , it ruins the meaning of Netorase/swinging when cheating (suck & fuck then tell later) gets involved.
One thing that really bothered me is the lack of choices, a big threat for i*cest (for example the young s*s show interest in her bro then get brainwashed when she sees the black neighbor , an Optional choice is important here like letting her go deep or stop her make her yours)
Not sure how you enjoy NTR when cheating/Lying/Manipulation is necessary for this Tag (Unless you have your own view of ntr -which whatever it was i respect it) but you 100% right about NTS.
I think the changing room scene was supposed to show that both girls would choose the MC. Loved that scene! Totally want to marry Anya. That girl is marriage material...in Alabama. WTF! I can move!
I get that everyone has their "thing", that rules were made to be broken, and that everyone is different. But if I had a wife/gf and she licked some guys balls without my express consent and knowledge, fluids or not, that is cheating. She might as well go all the way and get pregnant, never to return home again. But again, that is me.
Now make it into a game. There are certain conventions that we use to avoid making a game last forever without any advancement or interesting scenes. STILL, in a sharing relationship, regardless of the couple, there are stages that occur. It does not advance all at once. No relationship will withstand that kind of change and be healthy. Again, conventions in games make it so we can skip some of the trust-building. But the stages a couple goes through are important and they lead the story naturally. Skipping those natural steps will cause problems with readers, especially those who have experienced it.
So if the dev is fine with everyone hating a love interest (or in this case, a major character) they can do whatever they want. It's their story. But if support matters, if appealing to a larger audience than the five guys who love being cucked in the most painful manner matters, then they follow the "rules" that ease people into the major changes.
There was another story on F95 that made it feel like they were writing a cautionary tale of everything not to do in the lifestyle. Or a way to end every relationship through open relationships. It got that bad. People were pissed. They abandoned the game. That is the history of all NTR/NTS games on this site that do not follow the "rules." Like it or not, that is what you will observe if you do even a cursory scan of ANY of those games. People are fickle!
I get that everyone has their "thing", that rules were made to be broken, and that everyone is different. But if I had a wife/gf and she licked some guys balls without my express consent and knowledge, fluids or not, that is cheating. She might as well go all the way and get pregnant, never to return home again. But again, that is me.
Now make it into a game. There are certain conventions that we use to avoid making a game last forever without any advancement or interesting scenes. STILL, in a sharing relationship, regardless of the couple, there are stages that occur. It does not advance all at once. No relationship will withstand that kind of change and be healthy. Again, conventions in games make it so we can skip some of the trust-building. But the stages a couple goes through are important and they lead the story naturally. Skipping those natural steps will cause problems with readers, especially those who have experienced it.
So if the dev is fine with everyone hating a love interest (or in this case, a major character) they can do whatever they want. It's their story. But if support matters, if appealing to a larger audience than the five guys who love being cucked in the most painful manner matters, then they follow the "rules" that ease people into the major changes.
There was another story on F95 that made it feel like they were writing a cautionary tale of everything not to do in the lifestyle. Or a way to end every relationship through open relationships. It got that bad. People were pissed. They abandoned the game. That is the history of all NTR/NTS games on this site that do not follow the "rules." Like it or not, that is what you will observe if you do even a cursory scan of ANY of those games. People are fickle!
NTS versus NTR. Both can be wonderful, not at the same time. I enjoy some NTR games but they need to be NTR the whole time. Likewise, NTS games need to be NTS games. If someone starts lying or manipulating, that is no longer NTS. Yes, yes, aside from how SOME people bastardize the lifestyle by making 600 different categories, a beta cuck might exist in the sharing world and enjoy living with a caged cock. To each his own. But NOT in a story about sharing. People get upset.
Awesome, thanks. I mean, it doesn't sound like much, or at least I'm not inclined to retrace my steps, but I do appreciate you taking the time to update me/us.
Just gotta say, those games are the best. And Cece is #1 always.
All I can figure out from Patreon is that he releases to Gold, then Silver, etc. I don't believe there is a difference in the game, just when it is released. Maybe it is done for personal reference. If that is not the case, I apologize for leading you astray. (Erynn and Bella all the way.)
Ok let's watch it from another way with analogy - everybody loved Ned Stark cos of his charisma etc, somebody though to themself he is a MC, just to be executed by some fucking bastard. Did it made story worse or did it gave a premise for a greater story in future? The whole point was to evoke emotions and hell it did, same with this one(my heart was almost jumping from my chest when I have seen Vi around some dudes cock). Not every emotion should be positive.
You make a good point. Flirting with the line does evoke all sorts of emotions and if it move back away from it, can trigger a bigger relief and good feelings.
But what happens if the negative emotions cannot be channeled to a positive one? Some things, the negative never swings back. For some here I believe that is how they ultimately see cheating (NTR is just being used in the place of it I think). to them it would make VI and Eric both unlikeable. You never stopped liking Ned during/after his beheading. And those that did it were portrayed as villians, so it was good to hate them. Do we want to hate VI or Eric? Would that be good for the story?
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Don't be selfish , sharing is caring
I do myself enjoy Netorare to some extent , but i stop when it start melting my brain with low iQ/stupid Decisions (it ntr after all
) OR when Dev gives you an alternative nts path (soft cuckold/no cheating/MC enjoys from his chair as it too late for swinging UNLESS MC's dick magically grow from 3" to 8" ) but with a fast/worse ending that you can imagine...Do you know why normally its 35-40 yo couples that set boundaries and limitations? Because those are the one that actually do sharing and swinging in real life, fundamentally no couples that haven't been in a relationship for a significant amount of time would even consider that sort of lifestyle, its basically measure to reignite tired relationships. So yea the logical framework for that sort of relationship would be based on those that actually follow that sort of relationship.
Do you know what actual college students do? Cheat on one another. Fuck anything that move that catch their eye. Its not a actual sharing or swinging relationships. But the problem is the premise in this story is about NTS, performed by a college age couple, which shouldn't be happening. So since those two concepts are not compatible you have to embrace which ever is the dominant concept, which by the Dev's decision has been NTS, so it should logically follow that framework even if its applied to college students.
Also since this story is clearly meant to finish happily, your 'mistakes' normally lead to break up, not a happy couple, so since the premise of this story require the couple to still stand strong at the end it require avoiding the mistakes you believe they should be doing carelessly for your excitement, because you don't care whatever their relationship succeed or fail, because due to your own proclivity you consider any endings that meet your 'excitement' quota to be favorable, even if it goes against the intended narrative.
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I'm talking from my perspective and can't do for somebody else, nothing changed in me about the Vi neither for Erik. If somebody starts hate them, it's only their problem. We can portray Bruce as the villain and the story comes around - will their relationships be strong enough, do MCs succumb to their lust or may they absorb/overcome difficulties only to become stronger in future.(why not?)
You're not wrong. It just will not work with a VN that is supposed to be about sharing. You're preaching to the choir. I believe an adult-themed story should maturely tackle mature issues. I love to see that in a story. You and I are in the minority in that regard. Any story that adds NTR suddenly, or one that does not understand the unique differences and confuses them, will be killed instantly in VN land. This story is clearly labeled and reinforced as a sharing/NTS story. Any manipulation, corruption, lying, cheating, etc. and the story will be still born. The rules have to be followed.
I will totally share Anya!Don't be selfish , sharing is caring
I do myself enjoy Netorare to some extent , but i stop when it start melting my brain with low iQ/stupid Decisions (it ntr after all
I get tired of the typical NTR bullshit. MC has a tiny dick that doesn't work. The bigger cock with a shitty attitude and rape fetish always wins the wife, who was fully in love and committed to her husband before she accidentally saw the amazing dick. I won't read those stories.
Now this story, is pretty damn good (like College of Mysteria). MC has a magic dick
, the women love him, he is a good person (except for the whole cheating on his amazing girlfriend), and everyone ends up happy. There will be some nice romance, some hot sex, and nobody goes for the BBC because it is magically better. I like it a lot!