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Nurikabe

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It's all speculation in the end. The dev has kept this story on the rails and most people enjoy most of it. He could turn it on its head in a single sentence. That is the thrill of the whole thing. Not knowing what is next. It will work out in the end...or it won't. :ROFLMAO: ;)
 
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Axeleen

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Hi guys, can someone tell me if there is actual new content in this "final" update compared to "Ch. 6 gold" ? I mean story-wise, as opposed to bugfixes and/or rework of previous scenes
 

Adamska

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He is still not fully onboard with the whole idea, and neither is Vi, mind you.
Have to call BS on this... Vi's second day as a "clothing model" proves this will be the 2 Fast 2 Furious of NTS stories:

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I did laugh when I dove into this update knowing only that the BJ scene would be "redone" to find it's now a... ball sucking and dick licking scene. My main two problems before were the male pornstar character model not having an edgy haircut and specifically the dick shaft sucking (because giving head, shaft licking, ball gagging, and smearing precum all over her face during a photoshoot for a public website without checking in first is standard etiquette). I felt a lot better about Vi's actions this time around... Bruce being set up as a main influencer and bull for Vi may lead me to check out of this one entirely, I can't stand the character and don't think he'll be avoidable going forward.

The dev has kept this story on the rails
Are you sure? If the couple is now free to do whatever they want at any time with anyone, how is Ari some type of "fair reward" for Eric? Ari is a free use slut who fucks randoms in the gym locker room if they have a big enough dick, and would certainly fuck Eric any day without Vi gargling pornstar nuts first. Will Eric get personalized IOU cards whenever Vi decides to be a whore that he'll need to redeem with Vi-approved partners? Is Vi really cool with her boyfriend getting the exact same NTS experience as DEVIANT fanclub members (watching a small fraction of what Bruce demands from Vi through a phone screen long after they're done)? Then Eric's lifestyle reward is to be a cucked Bruce-clone to his otherwise cool best friend in order to "reassert dominance" or "punish Vi" vicariously or whatever... while he himself is still cheating!? At this point I don't understand why characters in this story bother to be considered exclusive partners at all.
 

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I wrote a long post about this and decided I had posted too much, so I didn't go through with it. But it "analyzed" the thoughts, texts and actions of Ari, Vi, and Eric according to the script.

For those who would rather skip that TL;DR: Vi's dialogue with the photographer goes way out of bounds and she shows her true colors.

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I'm glad you're finally reading the dialogue. Now go back to the first photoshoot and reread the dialogue there. It's practically the same.
 

yourmomma

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We do know what circle has planned though, it's been made very clear. Vi is on an NTS path. She isn't going to stray from him. It's all consensual sharing.
It really hasn't been made clear. While he has said Erik and Vi are on an NTS path the definition he gave for NTS was pretty loose and he's also on record saying he doesn't like tags, feels they constrict him and the story is going to move through different tropes. Regarding this game I honestly wouldn't get married to tags and doing so would just set yourself up for disappointment .

Also per F95 rules they don't add tags until after an event has happened.
 
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Writers can do whatever they want but straying too far will cost them. This is too far. There are inconsistencies that just don't match up. Let's use some ugly loose terms. Eric is supposed to be seen as the alpha of a harem. But he is a beta cuckold to his girlfriend? Make that work. She can do whatever she wants with anyone without permission, but she is also only doing this for her boyfriend and to grow the harem? She went too far and Eric is angry, but it all works out because Eric is fine with anything she does. Come on! This is basic psychology here.

I have never believed that (typically) a woman would allow herself to be shared solely for the deep love she has for her man. Of course, she enjoys it and gets her own needs met through doing these things. It would be ignorant and naive to believe that a woman 'allows' herself to be shared out of love. There is a difference between normal boundary pushing/testing and a woman who has made up her mind that she enjoys having sex with others and is going to do that regardless of rules and respect in her loving relationship. That is what we see beginning here. Vi giving in to her complete lust without consideration for her boyfriend ("no leash"), who she is supposed to love so much that she allows herself to be shared and shares her boyfriend with many others. Because nothing says "I love you more than anything" than a person who cannot control their desires and will suck off a pornstar.
to be fair eric has given her hints about her not having a lease and her having some autonomy to push boundries. not so much through specific words been hes been thinking about it a while and their couple dynamic was moving that way for a while. he is definately not a beta cuck, alpha cuck 100%. not the first story with an alpha cuck whos girls has a bit of autonomy. admittedly yes they should have had a conversation beforehand, im sure they still will. and time will tell about that. she did do all of that to take photos for him though. that was made very clear, even eric knew that. eric isnt even angry. shocked? yes. angry? no, hes turned on. also nobody said this was a harem game to my knowledge. you seem to be very anti NTS for someone playing an NTS routed game?
 

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Perhaps after reading the game's description, tags, and the developer's comments, people have already formed an opinion about the game's direction. They just didn't know that the developer might have his own unique understanding of NTS.

And maybe the developer is right. By his logic, this game truly can be called an NTS game. After all, no matter what happens, it can all be easily explained away with the simple phrase: "It's fine, Eric likes it."

Vi sleeps with Eric's rival? No problem, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi becomes a porn star? Don't worry, "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi gets pregnant by a stranger? No need to fret, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."

You could continue this list endlessly... In any case, I don't want to engage with that kind of logic.

So, if anything in the game bothers you, just remember the universal solution: "It's fine, Eric likes it."

And I'd like to ask, why do some people call Eric an "Alpha cuck"? I'm certainly no expert on Alpha/Beta dynamics, to be honest, I've never even used these terms myself. If I understand correctly, an "Alpha" is someone distinguished by their dominant behavior and character. I wouldn't say Eric stands out with such qualities.

After all, all the first steps towards him were made by the girls themselves, not by him. Vi, on the other hand, is the one actively making the first moves with other guys. One could say that all decisions about who Eric will sleep with are made exclusively by the women.

While Vi is off having fun with other men, Eric has to patiently wait until someone from the female cast tries to pull his pants down again.

To be honest, even if this game had been in development for 10 years, we must admit that the plot is still in its early stages. Therefore, we shouldn't rush to conclusions. Character development and evolution are what we'll have to continue observing.
 

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Perhaps after reading the game's description, tags, and the developer's comments, people have already formed an opinion about the game's direction. They just didn't know that the developer might have his own unique understanding of NTS.

And maybe the developer is right. By his logic, this game truly can be called an NTS game. After all, no matter what happens, it can all be easily explained away with the simple phrase: "It's fine, Eric likes it."

Vi sleeps with Eric's rival? No problem, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi becomes a porn star? Don't worry, "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi gets pregnant by a stranger? No need to fret, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."

You could continue this list endlessly... In any case, I don't want to engage with that kind of logic.

So, if anything in the game bothers you, just remember the universal solution: "It's fine, Eric likes it."

And I'd like to ask, why do some people call Eric an "Alpha cuck"? I'm certainly no expert on Alpha/Beta dynamics, to be honest, I've never even used these terms myself. If I understand correctly, an "Alpha" is someone distinguished by their dominant behavior and character. I wouldn't say Eric stands out with such qualities.

After all, all the first steps towards him were made by the girls themselves, not by him. Vi, on the other hand, is the one actively making the first moves with other guys. One could say that all decisions about who Eric will sleep with are made exclusively by the women.

While Vi is off having fun with other men, Eric has to patiently wait until someone from the female cast tries to pull his pants down again.

To be honest, even if this game had been in development for 10 years, we must admit that the plot is still in its early stages. Therefore, we shouldn't rush to conclusions. Character development and evolution are what we'll have to continue observing.
alpha cuck can mean dominant in the bedroom if not in normal day to day life, which he does get. when we say alpha/beta or active/passive cuck, we mean the betas and passive never have any real sex and often get humiliated (no backbone/small dick/bad performance). the alphas have an active role constantly reclaiming their girls after they been with another man. they have no performance issues and usually have a decent or big dk. i think i explained that well enough

somewhere there will be some limits to "eric likes it" but your point is valid. not the first instance of plot armor though haha he is def gonna be smashing Ari going forward. in some ways i think he did break her just a little bit on the roughness.
 

SymbioticLife

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You guys really hang on those two comments dev made, yet absolutely ignore all the other comments he's made lol

So how about you go back to before that scene where Erik is coming to terms with how Vi getting attention from other men excites him and after that where he talks about punishing Vi. You sure do like to cherrypick dialogue alot. It's clear how their relationship is developing is really becoming a problem for you or perhaps you secretly like it and that's what's really bothering you.

I'm not try to impose NTR on the game. I'm just simply pointing out that what the devs says and does conflict with each other.

It's clear we all think Vi's interactions during the photoshoots contradict a pure NTS path and borders on NTR. I personally don't have a problem with that and find it exciting.

I could care less how it goes, but dev contradicts himself alot.
Just to clarify, he has made other comments about it on the discord in the past and quite recently. What is true is that CG plays somewhat fast and loose with genres, but it still remains true that the relationship between Eric and Vi will never be true NTR, even if it rides the line at times. Some people want very specific permissions, but Eric and Vi both prefer some level of spontaneity, surprise. To some this will feel like NTR certainly, but it's also been talked about between the two of them at this point on a couple occasions. And how do you have spontaneity or surprise if very specific permissions are given?
 
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