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Agreed, we will have to wait and see more of the character development before we have any sort of solid understanding on things. Why I prefer the chapters in which the core group are interacting as it gives better group dynamic insights.

As for the "Eric likes it" parts. That is indeed part of the character and maybe a source of the disconnect some have with him? My early thoughts are that Eric does not mind her physical play and acts with others. That is exciting to him. However perhaps he has emotional infidelity boundaries? Her emotionally falling for and giving in to others might be a line for him? Unsure. Many have said here that secrets are the bad thing, but not really sure Eric cares about that either as he has stated that he does not have to know. As time goes on I think we will get a better idea what is meant by that. Is it that he does not have to know details but at least wants to know that something "may or may not" have happened? Or is he fine with being completely in the dark?

Currently it is really about how the readers are judging Vi's actions (And Eric's reactions) and to that I refer the prior statement of it is indeed early in the plot and will have to see it play out more.
First, I'd like to clarify something regarding the phrase "It's fine, Eric likes it." These words have been repeatedly used in arguments here, which is why I used them to hint that not everything can be justified or explained away with that phrase. Personally, I don't recall the developer himself ever saying those words, so I wouldn't attribute them to him.

Regarding Eric's boundaries, it's obvious that for a couple who have just started their "non-standard" relationship, certain boundaries do exist, but where they end, I don't know. However, it seems to me that neither of them would be particularly thrilled if the other started developing an emotional attachment to someone else. And to be honest, it would be strange to call them a couple if they had no boundaries at all.
 

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First, I'd like to clarify something regarding the phrase "It's fine, Eric likes it." These words have been repeatedly used in arguments here, which is why I used them to hint that not everything can be justified or explained away with that phrase. Personally, I don't recall the developer himself ever saying those words, so I wouldn't attribute them to him.

Regarding Eric's boundaries, it's obvious that for a couple who have just started their "non-standard" relationship, certain boundaries do exist, but where they end, I don't know. However, it seems to me that neither of them would be particularly thrilled if the other started developing an emotional attachment to someone else. And to be honest, it would be strange to call them a couple if they had no boundaries at all.
To be fair, the vast majority of the time i see that line said it's used dishonestly by cheating enthusiasts. The whole concept is kinda bizarre because in that kind of relationship early on is exactly the last time you'd expect to see these 'blurring the lines' type behaviors. Later on, sure.
 
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So, I was one of the ones who complained like hell after Circle announced that he was changing things after his initial release but now that I have watched the final product....... I think that it's better. Lots of users thought that he was bending to the will of the dumb NTS/NTR debate. He didn't. He dialed back Anya's outrage and breakdown which I think was a good move, but the rest of the scene seemed like it stayed intact.

The Violet scene was the biggest improvement in the chapter. Circle kept all of her slutty dialogue and thoughts during the photo shoot, but I think he may have polished it as it seemed to flow better. Getting rid of Luke and subbing in the male porn star was a great move IMO, Violet recognized him and it turned her on even more. He also clarified the wig question by cleaning that up and although he removed the one picture with the dick in Vi's mouth, it was the right move for Circle to make. The other photos clearly show that at least a BJ happened, but with it being IMPLIED Circle has opened up more possibilities as a developer. He can do another DLC titled "The Photoshoot" where we can see everything that happened (my preferred choice) or he can just roll it into the next chapter. Either way, his changes improved that scene as well.

Adding the short Maki scene added another layer of subterfuge - can't wait to see what she has planned.

I didn't notice too many changes in the Adriana scene. Perhaps the dialogue? Especially near the end, maybe? Adriana wanting to have Eric clearly say that "his girlfriend is a slut" just like Adriana and that he likes and WANTS her to be a slut was pretty hot. I'm hoping that Vi was hiding in the closet or peeking through a crack in the door or something like that so she can see and hear what Eric wants for herself. Not like she hasn't heard it before though. Eric and her discussed how hot it would be for her to fuck other guys while they were having sex after her ass got spanked raw by all the guys in the club. Looking forward to what comes next...
 
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To be fair, the vast majority of the time i see that line said it's used dishonestly by cheating enthusiasts. The whole concept is kinda bizarre because in that kind of relationship early on is exactly the last time you'd expect to see these 'blurring the lines' type behaviors. Later on, sure.
Yes, there are clearly people here who want to see NTR in this game, but personally, I try to stay out of such arguments. I strive to be consistent in my words because from the very beginning I've said that the developer has the right to make his game however he wants. The only thing I asked for was that if he ever decides to change the game's direction, he should let us know upfront.

That's why I didn't focus excessively on what Vi did or said during the photoshoot, but rather on her thoughts. After all, all the words she said to Bruce don't necessarily mean they are truthful or reflect her genuine feelings, so I wouldn't recommend getting so fixated on them. As for Vi's actions, you can also find logic there. I'm not saying I agree with her actions, just that I can understand the developer's logic when he wrote that scene.

The only thing that puzzles me is her thoughts. After all those declarations about her only loving Eric and following an NTS path, reading her inner monologue during the photoshoot raised questions for me. And when I voiced them, I was immediately labeled an NTR fan, complete with unsolicited lectures on how to properly play this game. It's amusing that an NTS fan decided to criticize me for my questions while choosing to ignore the obvious NTR supporters.

I am not a fan of NTR games, but I can play them, though not all of them. For instance, I played SAO. I finished the first part but didn't continue with the second for a number of reasons. Plus, that game is made on the RPG Maker engine, so you can't skip dialogues like in Ren'py. Because of this, I had to spend hours reading dialogues just to know where to go and what to do. And reading the dialogues was hard for me because of the main character. I think you understand what kind of intellect the MC in NTR genre games often has. In the end, I couldn't stand Kirito's stupidity and his girlfriend's hypocrisy and just dropped the game. I didn't write a bad review or anything like that. I simply left a game that was clearly not for me.

I just hope the game maintains logic and consistency. I'm not expecting a complex plot. For the next update, I simply hope we get some clarity on what Vi actually meant by those thoughts, or whether the developer just didn't think them through when writing those lines.
 
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I just hope the game maintains logic and consistency. I'm not expecting a complex plot. For the next update, I simply hope we get some clarity on what Vi actually meant by those thoughts, or whether the developer just didn't think them through when writing those lines.
Author intended to leave Violet's thought process, it haven't been changed after 2 updates. I'm not trying to imply the direction where the game is going, spitting the fact. Sure enough we will see what is under it in the next chapter.
 
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But according to the dev and the people defending him here, everything is all within what Eric has accepted and granted. Even when it seems that it outside of what is discussed by Eric and Vi, he accepts that she is going to "stretch" the boundaries and he is fine with that
i don't mind stretching the boundaries , but what she said there is more like Ari , and i don't need someone to remind me with "you didn't read what she said prior that" or "they talked about it" coz it doesn't matter , all i saw in that dialogue is a disrespectful selfish bi*ch to her lover (if that her real personality then it fine , but this go beyond just an Open relationship Unless Dev plays with our emotions :sneaky: .
(she is my least Fav character now & doesn't deserve the game title , Anya tho is the queen)

Nurikabe i don't wanna to quote your last reply coz , probably One User make a mistake then the mods end up removing all the quotes related to his reply!!! :4Head:
4 replies gone with "Excessive discussion about tags" , don't know what that means but i surely don't debate tags :whistle:

Getting rid of Luke and subbing in the male porn star was a great move IMO
Personally i think the po*nstar path (if it was planed) it will be better if Luke was involved , we loved his character (SOA) , & he will never harm Erik (tho it difficult for him to survive Vi's teasing specially with that monster in his pants :KEK: ).
 

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Adding the short Maki scene added another layer of subterfuge - can't wait to see what she has planned.
My guess is that she'll invite the cast (or part of it) to visit the club once more in a future chapter. This time in the VIP area where apparently some crazy shit's going down. :LOL:
 

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So, I was one of the ones who complained like hell after Circle announced that he was changing things after his initial release but now that I have watched the final product....... I think that it's better. Lots of users thought that he was bending to the will of the dumb NTS/NTR debate. He didn't. He dialed back Anya's outrage and breakdown which I think was a good move, but the rest of the scene seemed like it stayed intact.

The Violet scene was the biggest improvement in the chapter. Circle kept all of her slutty dialogue and thoughts during the photo shoot, but I think he may have polished it as it seemed to flow better. Getting rid of Luke and subbing in the male porn star was a great move IMO, Violet recognized him and it turned her on even more. He also clarified the wig question by cleaning that up and although he removed the one picture with the dick in Vi's mouth, it was the right move for Circle to make. The other photos clearly show that at least a BJ happened, but with it being IMPLIED Circle has opened up more possibilities as a developer. He can do another DLC titled "The Photoshoot" where we can see everything that happened (my preferred choice) or he can just roll it into the next chapter. Either way, his changes improved that scene as well.

Adding the short Maki scene added another layer of subterfuge - can't wait to see what she has planned.

I didn't notice too many changes in the Adriana scene. Perhaps the dialogue? Especially near the end, maybe? Adriana wanting to have Eric clearly say that "his girlfriend is a slut" just like Adriana and that he likes and WANTS her to be a slut was pretty hot. I'm hoping that Vi was hiding in the closet or peeking through a crack in the door or something like that so she can see and hear what Eric wants for herself. Not like she hasn't heard it before though. Eric and her discussed how hot it would be for her to fuck other guys while they were having sex after her ass got spanked raw by all the guys in the club. Looking forward to what comes next...
Saying that removing content just because you can then milk it for "the reveal" later on in a DLC is somehow a good thing is very cuck-coded. Eric would be proud...I think. Depends if we get another update where Circle also cuts the ball sucking and the only pictures sent just have Vi smiling at the camera with the guy's bulge next to her.
 

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Hi guys, can someone tell me if there is actual new content in this "final" update compared to "Ch. 6 gold" ? I mean story-wise, as opposed to bugfixes and/or rework of previous scenes
 

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Hi guys, can someone tell me if there is actual new content in this "final" update compared to "Ch. 6 gold" ? I mean story-wise, as opposed to bugfixes and/or rework of previous scenes
Small scene with Maki (a handful of images that might hint at a future event) and a new character's been introduced during the photoshoot to replace Luke as crossovers with SoA have unfortunately been cancelled. But it's mostly a rework of certain parts, new content wasn't really the focus here.
 
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