VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch.6 Final] [CircleGames]

[yourmomma]

You guys keep picking this game apart way too seriously. Vi's headspace, Eric's headspace, their motivations, NTS/NTR, rudeness to Sai, etc, etc, etc. It's a game. It's fun, it obviously has a good story and illustrations, and it's sexy. I'm sure everyone on the thread can at least agree on those three things. You may not agree with everything that happens story wise, but you don't have to because it's not real, it's a creators fantasy.

These threads get so tedious with the plot and story criticisms about this or that, wanting to know motivations, thinking the way Sai was treated was wrong, etc, etc, etc.

To my knowledge, Circle is not a professional. I may be wrong but I don't think that he's ever wrote a published novel or play and I don't think that he is a screenwriter in the movie business because he would probably be doing that if he had the talent.

He's (or she's) just a person who enjoys making and crafting a porn game and compared to the other offerings out there, he's pretty good at it.

Here's everything that we know about the 2 main characters:

Violet and Eric are 2 18-20 year old young adults. They are both extremely horny. We know that Eric loves fucking Violet and gets really turned on by the idea of Violet fucking other guys. We also know that he is not immune to the charms of other women, especially when they use Vi to seduce him. Violet we know wants to fuck other guys, not just for herself but because she knows Eric likes it too. We know this from her thoughts and everything she has said going all the way back to chapter 1.

Like poster yourmomma keeps telling everyone, go back through the game and pay attention to everything that Violet and Eric say and think about their relationship and what Violet says and thinks during both photo shoots. It's all right there.

Is it perfect, no. But it is a great porn game so just enjoy it for what it is and stop trying to rationalize real world ideas, values, and scenarios on something that's just meant to be fun fantasy.

I like you.

It's very funny that the gist of your comment is that people are trying too hard, and ironically you're trying even harder than everyone else lol. Stop writing novels to say nothing guys. Think of all the data storage that gets uselessly filled with your nonsense. The world is being fucked up because of you !

He just basically said don't pick apart the game. Pay attention to the dialogue and that Erik and Vi are young dumb and horny lol

 

[Adamska]

Pay attention to the dialogue

The dialogue is the problem, though. Readers fully understand that the characters Vi and Eric are having a blast and there's no issue between them. As pointed out several times, however, "the characters loved that" doesn't make an audience love something too. The majority of readers complaining are fine with Vi serving blowjobs, they just want it to be with Eric's excitement and pleasure at top of mind rather than Bruce's. Vi's inner dialogue while shooting with Bruce is anti-erotic to this group because her main motivation is to please secondary partners (with her main partner absent, in both scenes).

 

[PsyDoggo]

The dialogue is the problem, though. Readers fully understand that the characters Vi and Eric are having a blast and there's no issue between them. As pointed out several times, however, "the characters loved that" doesn't make an audience love something too. The majority of readers complaining are fine with Vi serving blowjobs, they just want it to be with Eric's excitement and pleasure at top of mind rather than Bruce's. Vi's inner dialogue while shooting with Bruce is anti-erotic to this group because her main motivation is to please secondary partners (with her main partner absent, in both scenes).

Where is this majority? Those who are crying ntr this ntr that? I don't think those are the intended viewer group. The whole situation was super hot, I can confirm it, dev not changing a thing does confirm it, all proofreaders and people helping him do confirm it, yourmomma can confirm it.

 

[yourmomma]

The dialogue is the problem, though. Readers fully understand that the characters Vi and Eric are having a blast and there's no issue between them. As pointed out several times, however, "the characters loved that" doesn't make an audience love something too. The majority of readers complaining are fine with Vi serving blowjobs, they just want it to be with Eric's excitement and pleasure at top of mind rather than Bruce's. Vi's inner dialogue while shooting with Bruce is anti-erotic to this group because her main motivation is to please secondary partners (with her main partner absent, in both scenes).

Half the group find it anti-erotic and they're trying to shame everyone that doesn't agree with them with accusations of trying to force NTR into the story.

When the reality is the other half are the ones actually reading the story. Are ignoring the tags and simply happily anticipating how CG moves the story foward, because we enjoy the story and the characters for all their flaws and don't demand a neat cookie cutter story theme or kink.

 

[Adamska]

Where is this majority?

Most of the people leaving criticism, from what I've read, are not saying "Vi shouldn't give blowjobs." They're pointing out the dialogue they don't like, usually focusing on Vi's inner thoughts creaming over Bruce and losing control while shooting with him. Eric is an afterthought in these scenes, and Vi even mentions Eric is irrelevant because she's a different person with Bruce. Something being hot or not is subjective to a reader, and the Bruce fans have made it very clear how they feel. I've just been seeing a ton of "read the dialogue" counter-points made to posts critical of the last update. We are reading the dialogue, we just didn't like it.

 

[PsyDoggo]

Most of the people leaving criticism, from what I've read, are not saying "Vi shouldn't give blowjobs." They're pointing out the dialogue they don't like, usually focusing on Vi's inner thoughts creaming over Bruce and losing control while shooting with him. Eric is an afterthought in these scenes, and Vi even mentions Eric is irrelevant because she's a different person with Bruce. Something being hot or not is subjective to a reader, and the Bruce fans have made it very clear how they feel. I've just been seeing a ton of "read the dialogue" counter-points made to posts critical of the last update. We are reading the dialogue, we just didn't like it.

Personally think that Bruce, overall, to some beauty standarts and for his personality - is not a lovable character and the fact Violet "chooses" him over MC pisses off a lot of people. People who enjoy projecting themself too much into the characters.
I'm hardly saying that's a bad thing to do so, it's great for immersion.(doing it all the time) That feeling keeping me on tippytoes, it's gives "the edge" to the story, it creates more emotions - leading players to think and to feel.(for any kind of literature it's a good thing)

 

[Hmong-sama]

Just a simple minor mistake when I was replaying chapter 6.
It just the word "absolutly" when it should be corrected as **absolutely** in Mika's short sequence.
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[Adamska]

"absolutly"

Kojima tier product placement right there...

 

[ChO_fr]

Just a simple minor mistake when I was replaying chapter 6.
It just the word "absolutly" when it should be corrected as **absolutely** in Mika's short sequence.
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Line 3496, got it, thanks.

 

[Adamska]

Personally think that Bruce, overall, to some beauty standarts and for his personality - is not a lovable character and the fact Violet "chooses" him over MC pisses off a lot of people. People who enjoy projecting themself too much into the characters.

I don't disagree that self-inserting is common, but that doesn't negate the criticism Chapter 6 received. Some readers are waking up on the wrong genre/kink bus and trying to figure out where we're going. Reading through Romeo and Juliet, most won't self-insert as Romeo but still don't want 25% of Juliet's dialogue to be focused on her jilling to a pimp in the market stalls. That usually wouldn't fit in a true love story just like an unprofessional old lecher usually doesn't make a great partner for light/fun NTS stories.

With this "blending of the genres" CG is going for, readers will have to figure out over time which itches this story is trying to scratch. Vi is tumbling head over heels to please Bruce, disregarding Eric in the process, so their scenes are not going to attract readers who self-insert or who want respect intact between the main couple while they play around. Eric has already shown a propensity to regularly cheat, Vi never shared her nude tit juggling pictures she did "for Bruce," everyone seems to have fun treating Sai like trash, etc. etc. It's OK to find that hot, but it shouldn't be a surprise why some are getting off the bus.

 

[PsyDoggo]

I don't disagree that self-inserting is common, but that doesn't negate the criticism Chapter 6 received. Some readers are waking up on the wrong genre/kink bus and trying to figure out where we're going. Reading through Romeo and Juliet, most won't self-insert as Romeo but still don't want 25% of Juliet's dialogue to be focused on her jilling to a pimp in the market stalls. That usually wouldn't fit in a true love story just like an unprofessional old lecher usually doesn't make a great partner for light/fun NTS stories.

With this "blending of the genres" CG is going for, readers will have to figure out over time which itches this story is trying to scratch. Vi is tumbling head over heels to please Bruce, disregarding Eric in the process, so their scenes are not going to attract readers who self-insert or who want respect intact between the main couple while they play around. Eric has already shown a propensity to regularly cheat, Vi never shared her nude tit juggling pictures she did "for Bruce," everyone seems to have fun treating Sai like trash, etc. etc. It's OK to find that hot, but it shouldn't be a surprise why some are getting off the bus.

As someone in game revues mentioned "the game is like Sherlock Holmes, but we are uncovering the horny".
There are readers who like it, the are who are becoming to hate it and there is me who absolutelly adore it. I have enjoyed the novel from the start and only recently started praising it - all in all everyone have different tastes and that's it.(it only means I'm not alone) The whole fact, that right now we are discussing it so much, means that author pulls the right strings.
I will tell you even more, in the next upd. we'll discover that Vi absolutelly sucked it, while showing it to Erik.(almost sure)

Why pure NTS enjoyers can't think it from this perspective - if you let your significant other do such things, there will always be a possibility of a risk or something may go out of plan - "play too much with fire - it will burn". All the emotions CG is playing with are ones of the strongest - jealousy, betrayal; it is no surprise for me that some of readers can't handle with those, but we are still playing the game specificly ABOUT those emotions.

 

[Swiver]

I don't disagree that self-inserting is common, but that doesn't negate the criticism Chapter 6 received. Some readers are waking up on the wrong genre/kink bus and trying to figure out where we're going. Reading through Romeo and Juliet, most won't self-insert as Romeo but still don't want 25% of Juliet's dialogue to be focused on her jilling to a pimp in the market stalls. That usually wouldn't fit in a true love story just like an unprofessional old lecher usually doesn't make a great partner for light/fun NTS stories.

With this "blending of the genres" CG is going for, readers will have to figure out over time which itches this story is trying to scratch. Vi is tumbling head over heels to please Bruce, disregarding Eric in the process, so their scenes are not going to attract readers who self-insert or who want respect intact between the main couple while they play around. Eric has already shown a propensity to regularly cheat, Vi never shared her nude tit juggling pictures she did "for Bruce," everyone seems to have fun treating Sai like trash, etc. etc. It's OK to find that hot, but it shouldn't be a surprise why some are getting off the bus.

I could be getting a wrong impression here but that's the second post you're dismissing what's essentially a cliche as improbable.

Just to be sure you guys know women are like not just also people but actually quite similar to the other sort of people called men, who can very easily go from 'my wife is my life' to 'boobies! my wife, who?' and back with 'what have I done if my wife leaves me I'll kill myself!' within a few hours.

Also leches are famously the people people's partners betray their partners with. It's how they become leches!

But yeah off and on the bus, you right, is always understandable. Though man I remember when the trending complaint for getting off was wtf this ass dev milking idiots it's umpteenth update and still no sharing...

 

[Adamska]

I could be getting a wrong impression here but that's the second post you're dismissing what's essentially a cliche as improbable.

I'm not sure what you're referring to specifically, is it that Bruce is an unprofessional old lecher? I know that it's a cliche archetype popular in a lot of NTR/NTS stories, but it's a nuclear bomb that's tanked VNs shooting specifically for light/fun NTS.

can very easily go from 'my wife is my life' to 'boobies! my wife, who?' and back with 'what have I done if my wife leaves me I'll kill myself!' within a few hours.

Which might make an interesting relationship story, but it's an odd way to craft a porn fantasy narrative that's trying to appeal to a wide audience. Most NTS readers want the main couple to be empowered and in control, directing, not flighty and giving in to the whims of the bulls and unicorns they happen to be around.

wtf this ass dev milking idiots it's umpteenth update and still no sharing...

Wasn't me! I love the slow burns, but can imagine the pressure creators must feel from fans who are trying to pull in so many different directions.

 

[yourmomma]

Most of the people leaving criticism, from what I've read, are not saying "Vi shouldn't give blowjobs." They're pointing out the dialogue they don't like, usually focusing on Vi's inner thoughts creaming over Bruce and losing control while shooting with him. Eric is an afterthought in these scenes, and Vi even mentions Eric is irrelevant because she's a different person with Bruce. Something being hot or not is subjective to a reader, and the Bruce fans have made it very clear how they feel. I've just been seeing a ton of "read the dialogue" counter-points made to posts critical of the last update. We are reading the dialogue, we just didn't like it.

Just because they're loud, outspoken and aggressive doesn't mean they represent the majority of the fan base.

 

[PsyDoggo]

Which might make an interesting relationship story, but it's an odd way to craft a porn fantasy narrative that's trying to appeal to a wide audience. Most NTS readers want the main couple to be empowered and in control, directing, not flighty and giving in to the whims of the bulls and unicorns they happen to be around.

I wan't to disagree a little on this take. A lot of uber popular games of the genre are more about - the current couple(MC and FMC) finding more expirienced couple, which leads them into those uncharted territories, in an other word corrupting them.

 

[yourmomma]

Which might make an interesting relationship story, but it's an odd way to craft a porn fantasy narrative that's trying to appeal to a wide audience.

Have you ever considered devs might not be trying to appeal to a wider audience, but a specific audience and that they're just trying to tell a story in their own way and not trying to fit themselves into a neat little compartmentalized box?
Maybe he wants to tell that interesting relationship story.

 

[Adamska]

Have you ever considered devs might not be trying to appeal to a wider audience, but a specific audience

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I wan't to disagree a little on this take.

Stories in this genre can feel like a Baskin-Robbins of assorted kinks sometimes. In my vanilla/light/fun NTS preference world, this is how an ideal partner might have handled the second photoshoot with Bruce:

1. Leading up to the shoot is the same. I would make it clear early on that Vi has a stated plan for the encounter while texting Ari. She wants to tease Bruce during the shoot to "power charge their new toy" later *fade to mall scene* (she's now empowered and in control, doing things to benefit Eric, not being led by/doing things for Bruce).

2. The early shoot through the bunny suit unfolds the same way, only Vi mentions to Eric while they're texting that she might "bare more than I ever have for the camera today... might even want to get a feel for the photographer's abilities..." to gauge his reaction (he likes it, ofc, but now she's checked in before becoming a porn girl).

3. I'd scrap the porn star walk-in entirely (it makes Bruce look like an unprofessional jackass and conniver plus doesn't add much to the scene). Instead, I'd have Vi do the nude shoot and transition immediately to rubbing up on Bruce as he lays down or moves in for close-up shots, eventually making him cum in his pants (takes him down a peg, more relatable bull in the future). As she's leaving the studio, Vi takes a sneaky picture of an embarassed Bruce trying to hide from a new client and clean up. Uses the nude shoot and close-up tease content to rile up Eric with Ari and Sai present (where they "make up" for the alley encounter by helping Vi practice as a porn whore on Sai with Eric directing).... since Bruce is her photographer but only her Daddy/Man/Pet-Name can tell her what to do.

 

[cryfane]

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A diverse range of fantasies is not the same as a wide audience.

I may like chocolate cake but I think adding coconut to it ruins the whole thing, adding more things can actually go the other way around and make the audience you aim at be smaller.

 

[Adamska]

A diverse range of fantasies is not the same as a wide audience.

I may like chocolate cake but I think adding coconut to it ruins the whole thing, adding more things can actually go the other way around and make the audience you aim at be smaller.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make, but I've Googled "diverse" for the guy who thinks only Chocolate Cake is allowed at the Cake Party:

 

[PsyDoggo]

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Stories in this genre can feel like a Baskin-Robbins of assorted kinks sometimes. In my vanilla/light/fun NTS preference world, this is how an ideal partner might have handled the second photoshoot with Bruce:

1. Leading up to the shoot is the same. I would make it clear early on that Vi has a stated plan for the encounter while texting Ari. She wants to tease Bruce during the shoot to "power charge their new toy" later *fade to mall scene* (she's now empowered and in control, doing things to benefit Eric, not being led by/doing things for Bruce).

2. The early shoot through the bunny suit unfolds the same way, only Vi mentions to Eric while they're texting that she might "bare more than I ever have for the camera today... might even want to get a feel for the photographer's abilities..." to gauge his reaction (he likes it, ofc, but now she's checked in before becoming a porn girl).

3. I'd scrap the porn star walk-in entirely (it makes Bruce look like an unprofessional jackass and conniver plus doesn't add much to the scene). Instead, I'd have Vi do the nude shoot and transition immediately to rubbing up on Bruce as he lays down or moves in for close-up shots, eventually making him cum in his pants (takes him down a peg, more relatable bull in the future). As she's leaving the studio, Vi takes a sneaky picture of an embarassed Bruce trying to hide from a new client and clean up. Uses the nude shoot and close-up tease content to rile up Eric with Ari and Sai present (where they "make up" for the alley encounter by helping Vi practice as a porn whore on Sai with Eric directing).... since Bruce is her photographer but only her Daddy/Man/Pet-Name can tell her what to do.

You see everything is about personal taste, if story would've turned out to be one of those 3 ways, I wouldn't bat an eye and still enjoyed it quite much, but right now, when I can compare, I would choose the current path taken with no hesitation.
Those "3 ways"(small reference - who remember that old flash game?) are great and wholesome, it fits current narrative, but for me it doesn't stay near with a surge of pure emotions that I've got from knowing Vi goes full slut mode. We are all different and I respect your vision.