VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch.6 Final] [CircleGames]

[Lady Lydia]

I understand your reasoning, but I don't see the point in removing that little scene of Vi's blowjob. Why can Eric have sex with Vi's best friend, but it's "not yet time" for Vi to give a blowjob?

The answer to that is don't you think Violet knows what is happening with Ari? She does, she sent him a message saying she was a bad girl and to head to Ari, clearly she knows she pushed limits and Erik isn't going to necessarily be happy about it, so she offer him Ari has a compensation, sure its overcompensation, but if she is fine with it, it means she agreed with it, mind you maybe she didn't expect Ari would push things THAT far, but that might be on Ari rather than Violet or Erik, on the other hand, if Violet had paid attention to how Ari is for 5 minutes she'd have know the slut wouldn't hesitate to get her fill, so clearly it was going to go further.

Again the thing with NTS is the partners aren't always at the same level, one partner can be fine with some things happening the other with more things happening, its why these things need to be discussed typically before starting to get involved in sharing and swinging. Now its clear Violet is fine with Erik getting ahead of her in term of what he can do, while on the other hand, maybe she doesn't feel ready to push things that far herself or she doesn't know if Erik is ready for her to push things that far either.

 

[JarrenBlake]

Ok, so I am going to put a question out here into the Verse. Currently projections have that Vi is going to be fucking the following:

Eric(There will be more scene between these two obviously)
Bruce (No way the old guy is not banging her as she seems to elevate him to at or near Eric status)
Sai
Rob
Rob's bro
New Porn guy
Porn guys we have not met yet. (I mean she is going the Pornstar route and all)
Then a maybe to Rob's dad but would not call this likely at this point.

I see the first few of these being really hot. After that...I just see myself getting bored like I do of real Pornstars. You know the ones that start girl girl then move to guys. Those first scene you run to the comp...but at some point it like..."Mia Malkova just dropped a new scene...." *crickets* "I mean...I guess I will watch it at some point..". How long, if ever, do you think it will take for VI banging to be "Old hat" like? We are all building this thing up and it can really only go down hill lol.

Not to mention the time it will take to get through all of these when you also toss in we gotta get other girls scene work done.

 

[Nurikabe]

Why are you so sure that Vi is not on board with that, she talks to Ari before photoshoot about how she enjoyed sharing Erik. At the end of Anya sequence Vi writes Erik to come to Aris place, they set this thing up, both of them.

I'm not buying it. First, and this is in parentheses, that doesn't make for a very good story. But more importantly, They would have had to set this up from the beginning. Meaning Vi has been tricking Eric the whole time. Ari has been leading Eric the whole time. But Ari didn't know about the fetish at first. And, the general crowd here would shit themselves if Ari and Vi were lying the whole time.

Ok, throw out the F95 drama. Say that Vi WANTED to lead Eric into this so she could what? Cheat? Sleep with lots of dick? Become a porn star? Yeah, I don't think so.

So then what? It makes perfect sense that Ari saw the glint in Eric's eyes, now she is pushing her agenda on everyone. That is more buyable and the "crowd" won't lynch the dev for making the sweet girlfriend a lying slut.

 

[Joratox]

I can understand that "Luke" was changed to the porn actor guy, maybe the crossover didn't work out in the end and so that needed to be amended. But changing the "dick sucking" to "balls licking" makes little to no sense tbh. I don't mind it though, since for me it's pretty much the same thing, that's why I say it makes little sense. The people who were fine with the first thing, will be fine with the change...while the people that got their feathers ruffled and yelled NTR will still say the same thing. So in the end the critics weren't really appeased and the other ones didn't really care that much.

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[JarrenBlake]

I'm not buying it. First, and this is in parentheses, that doesn't make for a very good story. But more importantly, They would have had to set this up from the beginning. Meaning Vi has been tricking Erick the whole time. Ari has been leading Erick the whole time. But Ari didn't know about the fetish at first. And, the general crowd here would shit themselves if Ari and Vi were lying the whole time.

Ok, throw out the F95 drama. Say that Vi WANTED to lead Erick into this so she could what? Cheat? Sleep with lots of dick? Become a porn star? Yeah, I don't think so.

So then what? It makes perfect sense that Ari saw the glint in Erick's eyes, now she is pushing her agenda on everyone. That is more buyable and the "crowd" won't lynch the dev for making the sweet girlfriend a lying slut.

I kinda agree with Psy on this one. I think VI was in on setting up that encounter. She led Eric there with text messages and then just happen to be sending pics of her photoshoot to Ari's phone instead of being where she said she would be? Her reasons for doing it...unknown. The messages lead you to believe that she has already done the photoshoot naughtiness and was now showing Eric her actions while indeed sharing with Ari as they discussed.

 

[CuriousGato]

Sooo what's new on this?

 

[JarrenBlake]

I can understand that "Luke" was changed to the porn actor guy, maybe the crossover didn't work out in the end and so that needed to be amended. But changing the "dick sucking" to "balls licking" makes little to no sense tbh. I don't mind it though, since for me it's pretty much the same thing, that's why I say it makes little sense. The people who were fine with the first thing, will be fine with the change...while the people that got their feathers ruffled and yelled NTR will still say the same thing. So in the end the critics weren't really appeased and the other ones didn't really care that much.

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For some it makes a big difference. As how some say that Anal sex is not as "bad" as vaginal sex. We can only guess as to the reasoning. My best theory is that the writer wanted to hold that act for a moment when we the audience could see it play out in full. And maybe have Eric there so that his reaction could be seen in "real time". Get the full range of his fears and then his excitement. But mainly the audience part.

 

[Jungles70]

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[PsyDoggo]

I'm not buying it. First, and this is in parentheses, that doesn't make for a very good story. But more importantly, They would have had to set this up from the beginning. Meaning Vi has been tricking Erick the whole time. Ari has been leading Erick the whole time. But Ari didn't know about the fetish at first.

Say that Vi WANTED to lead Erick into this so she could what? Cheat? Sleep with lots of dick? Become a porn star? Yeah, I don't think so.

So then what? It makes perfect sense that Ari saw the glint in Erick's eyes, now she is pushing her agenda on everyone. That is more buyable and the "crowd" won't lynch the dev for making the sweet girlfriend a lying slut.

I can't see where is "tricking" starts, they are pretty open to themselfs about exploring more of that . Where is the lie?
Ari knows about the fetish a lil bit - 1)it started from her bj scene in shower and teasing Erik, 2) she knows of Vis photo endeavourse before the last one, 3)Ari bj scene inside the club where Vi helps her and Erik only watches, 4) we don't always see their BHS messages.

 

[Nurikabe]

I kinda agree with Psy on this one. I think VI was in on setting up that encounter. She led Eric there with text messages and then just happen to be sending pics of her photoshoot to Ari's phone instead of being where she said she would be? Her reasons for doing it...unknown. The messages lead you to believe that she has already done the photoshoot naughtiness and was now showing Eric her actions while indeed sharing with Ari as they discussed.

I am not saying it is impossible. But do you know the one thing that VN readers hate than having a girl not be a virgin? A cheating, lying slut. Again, I am happy either way, but that WILL NOT fly in the VN world. He would lose his supporters in an instant. It sucks that we can tell what a story will and will not do because of the immaturity of a group of people.

I can understand that "Luke" was changed to the porn actor guy, maybe the crossover didn't work out in the end and so that needed to be amended. But changing the "dick sucking" to "balls licking" makes little to no sense tbh. I don't mind it though, since for me it's pretty much the same thing, that's why I say it makes little sense. The people who were fine with the first thing, will be fine with the change...while the people that got their feathers ruffled and yelled NTR will still say the same thing. So in the end the critics weren't really appeased and the other ones didn't really care that much.

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There is a set order of rules for couples to go into swinging/NTS. Those rules are even more apparent in a VN and on this site. If the dev skips major parts, people leave. That is why the blow job scene was cut. A simple blow job scene that many of us liked was cut because supporters lost their minds. So say that he skips the simple rules a couple has to follow to start sharing. These rules are things like establishing complete trust, getting permission, and adhering to all the rules. While SOME couples are at different stages in life and relationships, they all follow rules. So Vi skips those rules, we skip the discussion of the rules, or even a simple thing like Eric showing strong positive consent for a particular action and you think the blow job scene getting cut was a revolt? People will lose their minds.

Now, let's say that you are right on some of that. And Vi set up Eric to fuck Ari so that she could then be forgiven for her actions at the photo shoot. Again, the supporters will scream NTR. And they would be right. Yes, Eric is a cheating whore. But if VI did all that to make up for her indiscretions or future indiscretions that she wants to commit, I am just telling you, people will not accept it. Hell, I enjoy NTR and that would be too much for me. Lying is out of the question. Manipulation is out of the question. NTS involves trust and shared vision. LOTS of communication. Even when the couple is dumb and young or else they won't be a couple for long.

 

[Joratox]

For some it makes a big difference. As how some safe that Anal sex is not as "bad" as vaginal sex.

I'm not disagreeing with you there. That's why I said that scene will still have 2 reactions. First is "oh no dick sucking, but balls licking...meh pretty much the same thing", while the 2nd is "dick sucking was bad and ntr...balls licking is still bad and ntr". Maybe there will be a very small percentage of people that will be a bit more lenient to the balls licking, but I doubt it will make a significant difference in perception.

 

[chipsiup]

Was there no new content? Feels like I already saw the scenes before in this update.

 

[Joratox]

So Vi skips those rules, we skip the discussion of the rules, or even a simple thing like Erick showing strong positive consent for a particular action and you think the blow job scene getting cut was a revolt? People will lose their minds.

I just gave you the game quote where Eric shows consent about her doing stuff...dunno what more to tell you. And I really don't think changing the dick sucking to balls licking will appease the people that revolted..so...yeah. Or I'm wrong and it will, the dev probably has more "tracking" on people's opinions than a few posts on f95.
Guess what I'm trying to say it looks like a band-aid solution that won't really solve much, but again, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[JarrenBlake]

I am not saying it is impossible. But do you know the one thing that VN readers hate than having a girl not be a virgin? A cheating, lying slut. Again, I am happy either way, but that WILL NOT fly in the VN world. He would lose his supporters in an instant. It sucks that we can tell what a story will and will not do because of the immaturity of a group of people.

I think most of the current readers for this VN expect that VI will be having lots of sex with other men. The VN also makes it clear that such will happen without Eric being there on any number of occasions. So that part I think will be fine. However there will likely be some that leave depending upon how far it does or does not go. That is just the way of it. But the crowd you refer to passed on this VN a while back most likely.

 

[Lady Lydia]

I find the harem tag in this game interesting, but when you stop to think about it, it actually makes sense.

This game's MC is what is called an Alpha Cuck, basically unlike the typical NTR story with a Beta Cuck MC, the Alpha Cuck get to fuck around just as much as their partner, if not more, so basically more along the lines of a typical NTS story MC. In this case its clear Erik is the big dicked Chad that all the girls lust after but he isn't too possessive so he let them get fuck around. At the end however, he clearly is going to be the one reaping the girls, I mean Ari has effectively already jumped ship to him being her main dick, Anya has a big thing for him, Maki hasn't quite made the jump yet, but its clear she is very interested in playing with him.

I can understand that "Luke" was changed to the porn actor guy, maybe the crossover didn't work out in the end and so that needed to be amended. But changing the "dick sucking" to "balls licking" makes little to no sense tbh. I don't mind it though, since for me it's pretty much the same thing, that's why I say it makes little sense. The people who were fine with the first thing, will be fine with the change...while the people that got their feathers ruffled and yelled NTR will still say the same thing. So in the end the critics weren't really appeased and the other ones didn't really care that much.

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I think you are projecting a bit, yea sure Erik says 'he knows what to expect', however I feel you confused that with what you expected, but have you watched what he thinks while fucking Ari and seeing the pictures? He is clearly shocked at it, its clear he expected her to do less than she did, he clearly think she went too far. In this you confound pushing boundaries with jumping over them, so it make sense for Violet to have more restrain than she showed originally, like I said it felt like she jumped over some steps of 'boundary pushing' in the process in the previous version, and if she doesn't want to mess up her relationship with Erik going slower is sensible, she shouldn't be jumping from being exclusive to a slut like Ari in a snap of fingers, she is supposed to develop into over several events.

Hell the only reason he was likely good with it at the end was because he got emotionally confused by being ball deep in another girl, if he had been shown those pictures without that, he might have been furious. Your assumption here is that because he said he expect her to be naughty that means he is good for everything and that Violet would have taken it as him being good for everything, that isn't necessarily the truth, like I said not everyone is on the same level in such relationship, for Violet to risk like I said jumping a few steps was to take a risk Erik would be in a foul mood because of it, which since she loves him she wouldn't want that for him, she wants him to be good with what she does, so more restraint make sense.

 

[Real human bean]

I just gave you the game quote where Eric shows consent about her doing stuff...dunno what more to tell you. And I really don't think changing the dick sucking to balls licking will appease the people that revolted..so...yeah. Or I'm wrong and it will, the dev probably has more "tracking" on people's opinions than a few posts on f95.

From his patreon
Plus I wanna change a bit the tone of the scene especially with Vi as I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric. So I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for.

 

[Joratox]

From his patreon
Plus I wanna change a bit the tone of the scene especially with Vi as I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric. So I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for.

Thx for the info. It's at least clearer now. My mind is still not completely wrapped around the idea that licking someone balls doesn't count as an "oral scene", but I guess for some people it actually makes a difference. I won't judge.

 

[TurboKinetics]

I can understand that "Luke" was changed to the porn actor guy, maybe the crossover didn't work out in the end and so that needed to be amended. But changing the "dick sucking" to "balls licking" makes little to no sense tbh. I don't mind it though, since for me it's pretty much the same thing, that's why I say it makes little sense. The people who were fine with the first thing, will be fine with the change...while the people that got their feathers ruffled and yelled NTR will still say the same thing. So in the end the critics weren't really appeased and the other ones didn't really care that much.

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yea i dont think any of them have actually been paying attention to their dynamic this whole time. they have really been pushing their own envelopes the whole time.
its really small scale ntr turned nts, technically.
and vi would absolutely be fine with ari getting down with the mc. she had no problem with them both sharing his dk in that alleyway.

 

[TurboKinetics]

It is an NTS game.

His girl won't leave him but she is going to take dick from other people, same for the other girls.

To be fair, his sister should fuck other people, he's fucked her around too many times.

considering how shes never really told him anything before he hasnt actually fucked her around. was just oblivious to him cause who expects that from their sister?

 

[Nurikabe]

I think most of the current readers for this VN expect that VI will be having lots of sex with other men. The VN also makes it clear that such will happen without Eric being there on any number of occasions. So that part I think will be fine. However there will likely be some that leave depending upon how far it does or does not go. That is just the way of it. But the crowd you refer to passed on this VN a while back most likely.

I don't think that crowd left; they just pulled support. There will be changes to the latest update unless the dev is one hell of a writer and can write his way out of Vi going too far. As an NTS guy, that was too far, personally. But I can also look at it and say it is fine if pure slut is what the dev is shooting for. I have already jumped ship and boarded Anya's love palace. Why? Because she is dedicated to him and didn't manipulate to get there. That will likely be all fucked up very soon, as I said, because Eric hurt her.

I am not sure what the dev is going for, so it is hard to tell the future. I do know that the supporters so far do not approve of cheating or NTR. It is a particularly treacherous minefield, as it is in real life as well. Too much too fast and it becomes NTR, cheating, lying, and manipulation. Too slow and people lose interest.

Vi immediately retracts her behavior after the club scene. She is scared and doesn't know what to think. Yes, they discuss it and briefly mention rules being skipped. Even with Eric's apparent blanket approval, it just won't fly that she immediately jumps so far forward at the photo shoot. My evidence there is the approval rating after the original blow job scene. While some readers will be okay with that, most will not. His goal was to slow the pace down and ease us into Vi fucking everyone. Eric screwing the best friend is a common tool used to skip a few development stages but it is generally bad news. As I have stated, either Vi knows and she was manipulating the situation or she doesn't know and Ari is manipulating the situation. A few fans will say, "he fucked Ari so all is fair." MOST will not agree.

I just don't see that turning out well for anyone. You can look at ANY of the NTS games on F95 and see this exact trail and the eventual, but rapid demise of the VN. And as for this story, turning Vi (and everyone else) into a monster fuckfest extravaganza gets boring fast. Those rules, steps of development, the growth of a sharing relationship are important.