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Feel like that his has been brought up several times before, but the setup was arguably there for exactly what did happen instead. Ari already talked (multiple times in multiple chapters) about wanting to get with Eric and has already been cucking Sai behind his back, now it was just in his face. Vi for her part... again, part of the whole reason Eric found she watched cuckquean porn in chapter 2 was setup for events just like that. Sai getting more with Vi there would actually have been what would have gone against the dynamics established up to that point, that being that he's the harder NTR narrative, the one the girls are the most dismissive of.

Considering I was a proofreader at the time - but keep in mind that just means I was editing grammar phrasing I wasn't writing any of this - I do have some insight into the whole build up and finale of that arc.

I think moreso than it "making sense" that Vi sucks off Sai there, people simply wanted it to happen which is valid but in the actual narrative up to that point there was little to no sexual chemistry between Vi and Sai. Not like with Vi/Bruce, Vi/Rob, hell even Vi/Sam in their brief meeting. And on the flipside Vi has fetishes of sharing Eric with others and Ari wants the dick so... that was the logical conclusion of that night, especially as Sai already had his fun and Eric had had none.
yeah from the devpoint, but the story is so good the male characters that wants to get vi we are rooting for them, we watch their build up, the edging(mainly bruce)("chemistry with sai"sai dirty talks and vi responding while dancing that groping on the dance floor, vi hypnosed by sai's dick inside the club booth giving him hands while ari bj), now a total stranger gets the first action with vi, thats a let down for me

its like showing us whats gonna happen, its coming its coming SIKE! random dude never seen dont know shit about him gets first... if she snapped pictures(camera auto shoot) with bruce that would make sense, form the last dialogue vi was having with bruce and shown her tits to him, the tone of the conversation was really making them to do naughty things vi telling she cant stop listening to his commands etc.... random dude!

its a fumble...5 chapters of edging for vi's first move

the first time all of us was waiting for this moment(fan point of view), we read and follow the story which is really good so far, we are engage with all characters...giving vi any random dick doesnt make us hype just because she got a random dick to suck on, its the story behind of how she got that dick

p.s am just trying to convey what most of us thinks, i know there are a lot of ego who wont agree and argue, am just saying and not flaming anyone
 

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People got in their feels about it so that got retconned lol
Eh, that wasn't why it was changed. CG doesn't care about people "getting in their feels" about something. He just realized he wanted something different for the first full on BJ, as opposed to it being a rather sudden "That happened" sort of thing.

To be honest, I do feel some are somewhat in their feels about it being changed to the point of pretending the change did not happen. I had no issue with the OG (And no complaint was brought up by any proofreader, I don't think any of us really expected the level of outrage over that) but at the same time in retrospect I can see where it could be an improvement to leave it for a separate scene.
 

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Eh, that wasn't why it was changed. CG doesn't care about people "getting in their feels" about something. He just realized he wanted something different for the first full on BJ, as opposed to it being a rather sudden "That happened" sort of thing.

To be honest, I do feel some are somewhat in their feels about it being changed to the point of pretending the change did not happen. I had no issue with the OG (And no complaint was brought up by any proofreader, I don't think any of us really expected the level of outrage over that) but at the same time in retrospect I can see where it could be an improvement to leave it for a separate scene.
I wasnt bothered with either version myself. Both still fit in my eyes. The outrage was so fast i assumed the retcon was reactionary, fair enough as it wasnt. Actually glad it was devs choice though. Shows he keeps his vision for the game. Takes steel balls with this community haha.
 
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Guys im curious about a thing. Why in all these AI NTS games the MC is a "dominant" cuck with a big dick and never wants to be humiliated. Why are they obsessed with making the MC dominant? I mean doesn't being humiliated one of the most common thing in being a cuck so why here seem to be some sort of taboo?
Because those games aren’t made for a cuck or a humiliation/NTR fetish—go play something else.
Edit: Although im not so sure if MNGF hasn`t already been taken over by NTR terrorist to cater to those interest.
 
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"Last small easiest summary version of my consern ....sorry our consern(just because am the only one talking about this mean am alone thinking of this)

my consern was about the "first" time with another man than the mc , i will say it again the FIRST after that i really dont care, it doesnt matter if its a random or even the whole world

to me and others its was an important step, the first time the line is crossed

its ok to vent or trying to puff your chest with sneaky comments if your are not happy with what i said
egos are easily shaken when questioned

anyway whats done is done, now i know the story line doesn't matter anymore anyone can fuck anyone as long as its proof read

there are more things i wanted to say but, i have no time to waste anymore on this matter, the message is clear
"if your are not in our small group we dont care, if you question it, like it or not"

ps i would have not waste my time writting all of those comments if i am not a big fan of this game...whaterver you replied to this dont expect an answer
 
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Guys im curious about a thing. Why in all these AI NTS games the MC is a "dominant" cuck with a big dick and never wants to be humiliated. Why are they obsessed with making the MC dominant? I mean doesn't being humiliated one of the most common thing in being a cuck so why here seem to be some sort of taboo?
well this game is about a story like that, simple
some game will humiliate, some won't
this game is about sharing, pleasure and pusing to the unknown sexually by a couple
but that doesn't mean they dont love each other or one shall be humiliated

you can see that irl too.. we call it open relationship
 
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Guys im curious about a thing. Why in all these AI NTS games the MC is a "dominant" cuck with a big dick and never wants to be humiliated. Why are they obsessed with making the MC dominant? I mean doesn't being humiliated one of the most common thing in being a cuck so why here seem to be some sort of taboo?
You're wondering why guys would enjoying role playing as a dominant male with a big dick who gets all the girls and doesn't want to be humiliated?

I mean...
 
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Guys im curious about a thing. Why in all these AI NTS games the MC is a "dominant" cuck with a big dick and never wants to be humiliated. Why are they obsessed with making the MC dominant? I mean doesn't being humiliated one of the most common thing in being a cuck so why here seem to be some sort of taboo?
Most of them have humiliation dude lol thats why the community is over them. Humiliation for cucks as a kink is less then you think.
 
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Because those games aren’t made for a cuck or a humiliation/NTR fetish—go play something else.
Edit: Although im not so sure if MNGF hasn`t already been taken over by NTR terrorist to cater to those interest.
Chill man, no need to shit on your pants and tell me to play something different, i just asked a question, that's it, chill.
 
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Guys im curious about a thing. Why in all these AI NTS games the MC is a "dominant" cuck with a big dick and never wants to be humiliated.
Because those games aren’t made for a cuck or a humiliation/NTR fetish—go play something else.
Chill man, no need to shit on your pants and tell me to play something different, i just asked a question, that's it, chill.
A: Why doesn't this banana taste of apple?
B: Because it's not an apple. If you prefer apples, go eat an apple.
A: Why are you telling me to eat apples because I prefer the taste of apples? I just asked a question, that's all.
 
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Chill man, no need to shit on your pants and tell me to play something different, i just asked a question, that's it, chill.

Look, this wasn't meant as an personal attack, play whatever you want.
It's just that those new AI NTS games bring something really unique and new into the adult games industry, that is:

An open relationship marked by reciprocal respect and clear mutual consent, where the sharing dynamic goes both ways, offering plenty of action for both partners with other characters. At the same time, delivering passionate moments and love between the two partners, all happening in a lighthearted, playful, and fun atmosphere. There is no worry about cheating or going behind someone's back, communication is clear, and in the decision-making process, everyone is involved.
(Although MNGF already deviates from this ideal quite a bit—which I guess is fine—there is no ultimate definition of NTS.)

I'm just tired of this irritating push from the NTR community to make these games something they aren't;
This games take on NTS isn't about cheating, humiliation of another partner, or an unequal cuck relationship—it's something else entirely!
 
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I honestly believe this game is the best game created in the history. I can easily find faults in games like Baldur's Gate or Red Dead Redemption but i can't find a single one in this game. That goes for both versions! Vi's scene before change was 10/10 and it is still 10/10. This is not an easy task to achieve!

They say Expedition 33 swept the Game Awards. If you ask me, it has nothing on this masterpiece. Once this game gets a full release it will be game of the year for sure!
 
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A: Why doesn't this banana taste of apple?
B: Because it's not an apple. If you prefer apples, go eat an apple.
A: Why are you telling me to eat apples because I prefer the taste of apples? I just asked a question, that's all.
As far i know most NTS games has humiliation or stuff like that, it's a common thing, even MNG has it (MC best friend who get humiliated by Ari) and is the same for all these Ai NTS games where there is always a humilated cuck character, so everyone is humiliated except for MC, and im not saying he should be always humilated, it could be sometimes but here seem to be like a taboo or something. So my question was simply why is that, is there a reason? In all of these cases we are talking about NTS games, so there is not a banana and an apple, it's always the same which is NTS. So what im asking why this apples in these games are bitten in the same way and has the same taste? Is not like adding a humiliation scene makes the game an NTR game as adding banana juice on an apple doesn't make it a banana, its still an apple.
 

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As far i know most NTS games has humiliation or stuff like that, it's a common thing, even MNG has it (MC best friend who get humiliated by Ari) and is the same for all these Ai NTS games where there is always a humilated cuck character, so everyone is humiliated except for MC, and im not saying he should be always humilated, it could be sometimes but here seem to be like a taboo or something. So my question was simply why is that, is there a reason? In all of these cases we are talking about NTS games, so there is not a banana and an apple, it's always the same which is NTS. So what im asking why this apples in these games are bitten in the same way and has the same taste? Is not like adding a humiliation scene makes the game an NTR game as adding banana juice on an apple doesn't make it a banana, its still an apple.
No! You see, some people play video games to experience things they can't in the real life! Most won't go shooting around so Call of Duty is the only thing that can create the similar experience. But that is no different than bending a knee to Matrix as we should prefer the reflection of our own existence!

You see, i sincerely believe most people who like this game had potential to be Harem MC if that was still a thing! This is why it is easy for me to self insert! I think i am quite similar to Eric! Hell, i am even superior since i don't share my girlfriend! But i know very little about what will happen but whatever happens CG is the best developer and he will create the best experience!
 

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Although MNGF already deviates from this ideal quite a bit—which I guess is fine—there is no ultimate definition of NTS.
True , some said before that Dev doesn't stick with the Tags , some examples : is the scene with Maki at beach cheating ? if we use Incest patch then imo it doesn't look like , Even at the start of the game he tease cuck crowd with that Dream.
he teased NTR crowd too (that BJ/balls sucking At photoshoot + her inner thoughts with a strong emotions toward someone else other than Erik , it could be just a temporary/heat Moment).

Also Dev is smart , he can Add some lines and confuse the players (example when Erik says something similar to V "You don't have to tell me everything" "Impress me") , we all know she likes to get Punished by Erik for being naughty but Did he gave her green light to do whatever she want ? or he Only meant the teasing part like grinding on someone , showing her tits , get spanked , touch his bulge ?

but at the end of the day they will stay together no matter what (how ? well , it just a degenerate Fantasy game so :sneaky:)

Game has no choices so making a balance to please everyone is very difficult (hell even with choices we will complain lmfao) , and i honestly feel like it too early to make a full judgement.
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